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2012-09-02 12:47:12 AM  

Baryogenesis: msupf: Baryogenesis: There sure are a lot of butthurt people in here complaining about sportsmanship before the 1st half of the Oregon game is even over. What else can you do besides put in the backups? Take a knee 3 times and then punt? Tell guys desperate for playing time to go half speed? Screw with the rhythm of a precision offense by calling plays they wouldn't normally call in the same down/yardage situation?

For a start: punt the fricken ball on 4th down when you are forced into one. The last guy to do that repeatedly while leading got his lardass booted out of south bend.

Going for it on 4&1 at midfield with a great offense is the correct call for the situation. It's the first half. The backups were in already (I assume you mean the most recent 4th and short). Should the Ducks just hand the ball over to Arkansas St. every possession?

The 2nd half and especially the 4th quarter are different stories, but you seriously can't be upset that a team went for it on 4th and 1 in the middle of the 2nd quarter with the backups in. Both teams know the rest of the game is just about getting reps.


When you are up 40 points, yeah. That is just poor sportsmanship, there is no situational excuse for that. The team was up by 40 points. Im pretty sure punting the ball isn't going to threaten Oregon in any way shape or form. You are trying to make excuses for actions that have none, but keep farking that chicken.

There is no situational need to go for it on 4 th in a game you can already tell was going to be won handily after the first 22 points were put up on the board. Absolutely none. Just like there was no need to increase the tempo after ark state managed to get a field goal (which happened, even commentators picked up on that, and we can mostly agree they have iq levels bordering on pond-scum. Did you notice?).

The only excusable action by Kelly has been the 2 point conversion call, and even that is a weak excuse. Once again, I highly doubt he was expecting a shoot out of a game and figured he needed that extra point to help keep a lead. It was more of a d-bag "I can so I will" call, which is supported by his long legacy of being a farking asshat of a coach.

I had also said there have been a few ugly games already tonight, but at least in those the teams winning actually took their feet off the throttle a bit offensively after it became glaringly obvious.
 
2012-09-02 12:48:45 AM  
I think it's hilarious that this thread temporarily turned into a bandwagon fan circle jerk thread.

Not that the people here are bandwagon fans, but the random people they see in random places? Yeah, pretty good chance...
 
2012-09-02 12:49:55 AM  
Holy crap! Oklahoma has a lead. Shiats getting serious now,
 
2012-09-02 12:51:39 AM  

Baryogenesis: Should the Ducks just hand the ball over to Arkansas St. every possession?



When you're up by 40+ points, you punt on fourth down. The only other acceptable action is to kick a field goal if you're on the 20 or something.
 
2012-09-02 12:51:49 AM  
Chip Kelly is an asshole. But it's also hilarious to see anyone who can support Saban with these kinds of complaints.
 
2012-09-02 12:52:09 AM  

puffy999: I think it's hilarious that this thread temporarily turned into a bandwagon fan circle jerk thread.

Not that the people here are bandwagon fans, but the random people they see in random places? Yeah, pretty good chance...


Alabama was a pretty shiatty team when I was meeting fans. Not that there are bandwagoners, but that wasn't the case in the instances I was talking about.
 
2012-09-02 12:53:01 AM  

msupf:
I had also said there have been a few ugly games already tonight, but at least in those the teams winning actually took their feet off the throttle a bit offensively after it became glaringly obvious.


Like Oklahoma State passing for a 4th-quarter TD while up 70-0? Must've missed that one.
 
2012-09-02 12:56:04 AM  

puffy999: Chip Kelly is an asshole. But it's also hilarious to see anyone who can support Saban with these kinds of complaints.


Really? You feel Saban does shiat like that?
You may not like him (obviously you don't) but pulling anything like Kelly did is so far out of character for him that I can only assume you are: A) trolling, or B) a complete farking idiot.

I'n going with B.
 
2012-09-02 12:58:40 AM  

common sense is an oxymoron: msupf:
I had also said there have been a few ugly games already tonight, but at least in those the teams winning actually took their feet off the throttle a bit offensively after it became glaringly obvious.

Like Oklahoma State passing for a 4th-quarter TD while up 70-0? Must've missed that one.


Yes, I did miss that. And I also consider that just glaringly poor conduct from a coach or coordinator. When you are up by that much, you may as well run the clock down as low as possible each time and just run the ball. No need to be passing at that point.
 
2012-09-02 01:01:53 AM  
Not that it matters, but I think the announcer was wrong on a call/point.

The statement:
"Doesn't matter where the man is. He can be in the endzone & bat a ball back to prevent a touchback."

My thought.
If you're in the endzone & touch the ball it's a touchback. (like a foot out of bounds)
If the ball is over the line, but hasn't touched the ground, a player can dive & bat it back in the air.

I know the NFL is that way. Not sure on college.
 
2012-09-02 01:03:00 AM  

msupf: Baryogenesis: msupf: Baryogenesis: There sure are a lot of butthurt people in here complaining about sportsmanship before the 1st half of the Oregon game is even over. What else can you do besides put in the backups? Take a knee 3 times and then punt? Tell guys desperate for playing time to go half speed? Screw with the rhythm of a precision offense by calling plays they wouldn't normally call in the same down/yardage situation?

For a start: punt the fricken ball on 4th down when you are forced into one. The last guy to do that repeatedly while leading got his lardass booted out of south bend.

Going for it on 4&1 at midfield with a great offense is the correct call for the situation. It's the first half. The backups were in already (I assume you mean the most recent 4th and short). Should the Ducks just hand the ball over to Arkansas St. every possession?

The 2nd half and especially the 4th quarter are different stories, but you seriously can't be upset that a team went for it on 4th and 1 in the middle of the 2nd quarter with the backups in. Both teams know the rest of the game is just about getting reps.

When you are up 40 points, yeah. That is just poor sportsmanship, there is no situational excuse for that. The team was up by 40 points. Im pretty sure punting the ball isn't going to threaten Oregon in any way shape or form. You are trying to make excuses for actions that have none, but keep farking that chicken.

There is no situational need to go for it on 4 th in a game you can already tell was going to be won handily after the first 22 points were put up on the board. Absolutely none. Just like there was no need to increase the tempo after ark state managed to get a field goal (which happened, even commentators picked up on that, and we can mostly agree they have iq levels bordering on pond-scum. Did you notice?).

The only excusable action by Kelly has been the 2 point conversion call, and even that is a weak excuse. Once again, I highly doubt he ...


It was the 1st half. You need to calm the fark down and put aside your hatred for Kelly or the Ducks or the Pac-12 or whatever is irritating you. I doubt there's another team in the NCAA you would accuse of poor sportsmanship for their play calling the 1st half. They put in the backups with 8 minutes left in the 2nd quarter. You're talking about a 2 point conversion 2 minutes into the game and a 4th down play in the middle 2nd quarter as examples of bad sportsmanship. Calm down, take a step back and look at the situation with a modicum of rationality.

And no, a 22 point lead is NOTHING in the 1st quarter of football game. The dividing line for relaxing with a big lead is usually the 2nd half or 4th quarter.

Are the Ducks supposed to run up the gut on every play and essentially get no real offensive reps for the backups? Yes/No? Should they, with some exceptions, just run their normal offense (which, if you've watched other Duck games, includes going for it on 4th and 1) so the back ups get real game experience? Yes/No?
 
2012-09-02 01:05:40 AM  

bionicjoe: Not that it matters, but I think the announcer was wrong on a call/point.

The statement:
"Doesn't matter where the man is. He can be in the endzone & bat a ball back to prevent a touchback."

My thought.
If you're in the endzone & touch the ball it's a touchback. (like a foot out of bounds)
If the ball is over the line, but hasn't touched the ground, a player can dive & bat it back in the air.

I know the NFL is that way. Not sure on college.


Only matters if the ball crosses the plane. You can be 99% of your body in the end zone, but if your fingers are holding the entire ball out past the line, ball will be down inside the one.
 
2012-09-02 01:10:01 AM  
Need a new kicker.
 
2012-09-02 01:11:11 AM  

Baryogenesis: And no, a 22 point lead is NOTHING in the 1st quarter of football game. The dividing line for relaxing with a big lead is usually the 2nd half or 4th quarter.


I agree with this.
The 2-pt conversion was the first score of the game. The 4th down go was in the first quarter (I think), and they were at the 45. That's no-man's land for punts.
Blowouts are practice games really. No problem with those calls that early in a game.

OH GAWDAMMIT MINERS!!
 
2012-09-02 01:11:38 AM  

msupf: common sense is an oxymoron: msupf:
I had also said there have been a few ugly games already tonight, but at least in those the teams winning actually took their feet off the throttle a bit offensively after it became glaringly obvious.

Like Oklahoma State passing for a 4th-quarter TD while up 70-0? Must've missed that one.

Yes, I did miss that. And I also consider that just glaringly poor conduct from a coach or coordinator. When you are up by that much, you may as well run the clock down as low as possible each time and just run the ball. No need to be passing at that point.


Running up the score and piling on sucks. But margin of victory does influence poll voters, and Oregon is in this for all the marbles. I can't blame a coach for doing everything he can to be voted at least #2, especially in the first half.
 
2012-09-02 01:12:36 AM  

Baryogenesis: And no, a 22 point lead is NOTHING in the 1st quarter of football game. The dividing line for relaxing with a big lead is usually the 2nd half or 4th quarter.

When you're Oregon, from the PAC 12, ranked 5th, and a real contender for the national championship playing Arkansas State from the Sun Belt Conference with a first year head coach. a 22 point lead is pretty substantial and doesn't really call for going for 4th down conversions.
 
2012-09-02 01:13:03 AM  
Missed field goals notwithstanding, the Miners have been playing pretty well. Just forced another punt.
 
2012-09-02 01:13:17 AM  

msupf: Only matters if the ball crosses the plane. You can be 99% of your body in the end zone, but if your fingers are holding the entire ball out past the line, ball will be down inside the one.


The more I know!

NFL - touching the end zone is like touching out of bounds.You connect the ball to the end zone, touchback.
 
2012-09-02 01:14:04 AM  

Baryogenesis: msupf: Baryogenesis: msupf: Baryogenesis: There sure are a lot of butthurt people in here complaining about sportsmanship before the 1st half of the Oregon game is even over. What else can you do besides put in the backups? Take a knee 3 times and then punt? Tell guys desperate for playing time to go half speed? Screw with the rhythm of a precision offense by calling plays they wouldn't normally call in the same down/yardage situation?

For a start: punt the fricken ball on 4th down when you are forced into one. The last guy to do that repeatedly while leading got his lardass booted out of south bend.

Going for it on 4&1 at midfield with a great offense is the correct call for the situation. It's the first half. The backups were in already (I assume you mean the most recent 4th and short). Should the Ducks just hand the ball over to Arkansas St. every possession?

The 2nd half and especially the 4th quarter are different stories, but you seriously can't be upset that a team went for it on 4th and 1 in the middle of the 2nd quarter with the backups in. Both teams know the rest of the game is just about getting reps.

When you are up 40 points, yeah. That is just poor sportsmanship, there is no situational excuse for that. The team was up by 40 points. Im pretty sure punting the ball isn't going to threaten Oregon in any way shape or form. You are trying to make excuses for actions that have none, but keep farking that chicken.

There is no situational need to go for it on 4 th in a game you can already tell was going to be won handily after the first 22 points were put up on the board. Absolutely none. Just like there was no need to increase the tempo after ark state managed to get a field goal (which happened, even commentators picked up on that, and we can mostly agree they have iq levels bordering on pond-scum. Did you notice?).

The only excusable action by Kelly has been the 2 point conversion call, and even that is a weak excuse. Once again, I highly do ...


You would have to be either an idiot or a douchebag to thin kthat 22 point lead was in any way unsafe after that first quarter. Arkansas state couldn't move the ball at all. They had 45 yards to oregons 200+. Once again, why the FARK couldn't Kelly send the punt team out? I don't give a crap if they were up 29-0 after 3 minutes, punt the farking ball if you are outside of fg range. Get some work in on coffin corner punts. Don't bully the weak.

Yes, you are right on one thing, Kelly did get the backups in in the second quarter.... At which point he INCREASED the offenses tempo.

If your team is going to schedule a cup are, and they play like a cupcake, don't shiat all over them for showing up. Play with some level of fair play.
 
2012-09-02 01:14:55 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Missed field goals notwithstanding, the Miners have been playing pretty well. Just forced another punt.


Indeed they are.
 
2012-09-02 01:16:46 AM  

Krymson Tyde: cameroncrazy1984: Missed field goals notwithstanding, the Miners have been playing pretty well. Just forced another punt.

Indeed they are.


The Utep rb, Jeffery, is having a heck of a night. This guy needs to make sure his coaching staff makes a highlight reel for him from this game if he has any intention of trying for the nfl.
 
2012-09-02 01:17:24 AM  
RUB IT OUT
 
2012-09-02 01:18:45 AM  

msupf: Krymson Tyde: cameroncrazy1984: Missed field goals notwithstanding, the Miners have been playing pretty well. Just forced another punt.

Indeed they are.

The Utep rb, Jeffery, is having a heck of a night. This guy needs to make sure his coaching staff makes a highlight reel for him from this game if he has any intention of trying for the nfl.


No kidding, He's fast, and decisive.
 
2012-09-02 01:19:13 AM  

Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: And no, a 22 point lead is NOTHING in the 1st quarter of football game. The dividing line for relaxing with a big lead is usually the 2nd half or 4th quarter.
When you're Oregon, from the PAC 12, ranked 5th, and a real contender for the national championship playing Arkansas State from the Sun Belt Conference with a first year head coach. a 22 point lead is pretty substantial and doesn't really call for going for 4th down conversions.


The thing is going for it on 4th and short at midfield or closer is completely normal for the Duck offense. It wasn't an eff you move. It's just what they do in that situation 95% of the time and it's a great thing to practice. If it's the 2nd quarter and I'm the coach, I'm worried about what my players are doing and getting them to focus on their execution. I'm not worried about the other team feeling bad in the 2nd quarter.
 
2012-09-02 01:19:15 AM  

msupf: Krymson Tyde: cameroncrazy1984: Missed field goals notwithstanding, the Miners have been playing pretty well. Just forced another punt.

Indeed they are.

The Utep rb, Jeffery, is having a heck of a night. This guy needs to make sure his coaching staff makes a highlight reel for him from this game if he has any intention of trying for the nfl.


I am impressed.



libranoelrose
:
RUB IT OUT


I'm watching a football game right now.
 
2012-09-02 01:23:30 AM  

Baryogenesis: Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: And no, a 22 point lead is NOTHING in the 1st quarter of football game. The dividing line for relaxing with a big lead is usually the 2nd half or 4th quarter.
When you're Oregon, from the PAC 12, ranked 5th, and a real contender for the national championship playing Arkansas State from the Sun Belt Conference with a first year head coach. a 22 point lead is pretty substantial and doesn't really call for going for 4th down conversions.

The thing is going for it on 4th and short at midfield or closer is completely normal for the Duck offense. It wasn't an eff you move. It's just what they do in that situation 95% of the time and it's a great thing to practice. If it's the 2nd quarter and I'm the coach, I'm worried about what my players are doing and getting them to focus on their execution. I'm not worried about the other team feeling bad in the 2nd quarter.


Okay, I can accept that it's par for the course with them. It doesn't really seem to be working out for them in the long run though.
 
2012-09-02 01:25:01 AM  
Bad fake. There was no hole there.
 
2012-09-02 01:25:27 AM  

msupf: If your team is going to schedule a cup are, and they play like a cupcake, don't shiat all over them for showing up. Play with some level of fair play.


Check this week's scoreboard or the 1st week scoreboard of previous seasons and get back to me.


Oh, pretty much every top team blows out a cupcake to open their schedule? You don't say! OK st. put up an 84-0 game for fark's sake. You're upset about the Oregon backups converting a 4th and 1 play in the 2nd quarter. Yeah, what horrible sportsmanship.....
 
2012-09-02 01:26:06 AM  

Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: And no, a 22 point lead is NOTHING in the 1st quarter of football game. The dividing line for relaxing with a big lead is usually the 2nd half or 4th quarter.
When you're Oregon, from the PAC 12, ranked 5th, and a real contender for the national championship playing Arkansas State from the Sun Belt Conference with a first year head coach. a 22 point lead is pretty substantial and doesn't really call for going for 4th down conversions.

The thing is going for it on 4th and short at midfield or closer is completely normal for the Duck offense. It wasn't an eff you move. It's just what they do in that situation 95% of the time and it's a great thing to practice. If it's the 2nd quarter and I'm the coach, I'm worried about what my players are doing and getting them to focus on their execution. I'm not worried about the other team feeling bad in the 2nd quarter.

Okay, I can accept that it's par for the course with them. It doesn't really seem to be working out for them in the long run though.


What do you mean?
 
2012-09-02 01:29:44 AM  

bionicjoe: Baryogenesis: And no, a 22 point lead is NOTHING in the 1st quarter of football game. The dividing line for relaxing with a big lead is usually the 2nd half or 4th quarter.

I agree with this.
The 2-pt conversion was the first score of the game. The 4th down go was in the first quarter (I think), and they were at the 45. That's no-man's land for punts.
Blowouts are practice games really. No problem with those calls that early in a game.

OH GAWDAMMIT MINERS!!


I can see why people would think it is a dickish move, but the team has to run its offense. If Oregon doesn't have a short punter and this is how they decided that they would handle these situations most of the time, then they have to run the offense to get more practice at doing it at game speed. These types of blowouts become game speed practice for the winning team.

The 1993 AFC Championship game is the reason why you never put the engine in idle before the game is over.
 
2012-09-02 01:30:17 AM  

Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: And no, a 22 point lead is NOTHING in the 1st quarter of football game. The dividing line for relaxing with a big lead is usually the 2nd half or 4th quarter.
When you're Oregon, from the PAC 12, ranked 5th, and a real contender for the national championship playing Arkansas State from the Sun Belt Conference with a first year head coach. a 22 point lead is pretty substantial and doesn't really call for going for 4th down conversions.

The thing is going for it on 4th and short at midfield or closer is completely normal for the Duck offense. It wasn't an eff you move. It's just what they do in that situation 95% of the time and it's a great thing to practice. If it's the 2nd quarter and I'm the coach, I'm worried about what my players are doing and getting them to focus on their execution. I'm not worried about the other team feeling bad in the 2nd quarter.

Okay, I can accept that it's par for the course with them. It doesn't really seem to be working out for them in the long run though.


Know who else treated going for it on 4th at any point in the game as par for the course?

Little hint, he was nicknamed man-titties (he was bigger than moobs), and was dismissed from his first job at the college level.

"par for the course" isn't an excuse for being a d-bag.
 
2012-09-02 01:34:23 AM  

msupf: Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: And no, a 22 point lead is NOTHING in the 1st quarter of football game. The dividing line for relaxing with a big lead is usually the 2nd half or 4th quarter.
When you're Oregon, from the PAC 12, ranked 5th, and a real contender for the national championship playing Arkansas State from the Sun Belt Conference with a first year head coach. a 22 point lead is pretty substantial and doesn't really call for going for 4th down conversions.

The thing is going for it on 4th and short at midfield or closer is completely normal for the Duck offense. It wasn't an eff you move. It's just what they do in that situation 95% of the time and it's a great thing to practice. If it's the 2nd quarter and I'm the coach, I'm worried about what my players are doing and getting them to focus on their execution. I'm not worried about the other team feeling bad in the 2nd quarter.

Okay, I can accept that it's par for the course with them. It doesn't really seem to be working out for them in the long run though.

Know who else treated going for it on 4th at any point in the game as par for the course?

Little hint, he was nicknamed man-titties (he was bigger than moobs), and was dismissed from his first job at the college level.

"par for the course" isn't an excuse for being a d-bag.


OMG, HITLER!?

At any point in the game? Like the 2nd quarter with the backups in?

And if Chip Kelly is such an insufferable douche who runs up the score whenever possible, why have the Ducks not scored in the 2nd half yet?

The Ducks could have easily put up 84 like OK. St. but they aren't doing that. Could it be that they do have a sense of sportsmanship and you're just butthurt?
 
2012-09-02 01:36:06 AM  

Baryogenesis: msupf: If your team is going to schedule a cup are, and they play like a cupcake, don't shiat all over them for showing up. Play with some level of fair play.

Check this week's scoreboard or the 1st week scoreboard of previous seasons and get back to me.


Oh, pretty much every top team blows out a cupcake to open their schedule? You don't say! OK st. put up an 84-0 game for fark's sake. You're upset about the Oregon backups converting a 4th and 1 play in the 2nd quarter. Yeah, what horrible sportsmanship.....


I think that game was ridiculous as well. No need to be calling passing plays in the second half. Hell, even the billionaire booster of the team was embarrassed about the game and pretty much demanded that okie state schedule better teams from now on instead of teams from lower divisions that have gone 2-70 or some ridiculous stat like that.

Heck, I was mad as hell when my alma mater decided to schedule their first ever fcs team a few years ago. Until then, the worst we had done was mac
 
2012-09-02 01:37:52 AM  

Baryogenesis: msupf: Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: And no, a 22 point lead is NOTHING in the 1st quarter of football game. The dividing line for relaxing with a big lead is usually the 2nd half or 4th quarter.
When you're Oregon, from the PAC 12, ranked 5th, and a real contender for the national championship playing Arkansas State from the Sun Belt Conference with a first year head coach. a 22 point lead is pretty substantial and doesn't really call for going for 4th down conversions.

The thing is going for it on 4th and short at midfield or closer is completely normal for the Duck offense. It wasn't an eff you move. It's just what they do in that situation 95% of the time and it's a great thing to practice. If it's the 2nd quarter and I'm the coach, I'm worried about what my players are doing and getting them to focus on their execution. I'm not worried about the other team feeling bad in the 2nd quarter.

Okay, I can accept that it's par for the course with them. It doesn't really seem to be working out for them in the long run though.

Know who else treated going for it on 4th at any point in the game as par for the course?

Little hint, he was nicknamed man-titties (he was bigger than moobs), and was dismissed from his first job at the college level.

"par for the course" isn't an excuse for being a d-bag.

OMG, HITLER!?

At any point in the game? Like the 2nd quarter with the backups in?

And if Chip Kelly is such an insufferable douche who runs up the score whenever possible, why have the Ducks not scored in the 2nd half yet?

The Ducks could have easily put up 84 like OK. St. but they aren't doing that. Could it be that they do have a sense of sportsmanship and you're just butthurt?


And you just godwinned a football thread. Nice.
 
2012-09-02 01:38:31 AM  

Krymson Tyde: libranoelrose: RUB IT OUT

I'm watching a football game right now.


I keep thinking the same thing, but when I see that dayglo orange it makes me feel like i'm watching disco.
 
2012-09-02 01:45:14 AM  

msupf: I think that game was ridiculous as well. No need to be calling passing plays in the second half.


Seriously? I totally agree with not airing it out on every play, calling bombs or trick plays, but no pass plays at all? Players need real game reps on both sides of the ball. Intentionally running up the score is pathetic, but playing half assed because even a single downfield pass might be too much for the defense to bear is just silly. There's a difference between not slaughtering a lesser team for shiats and giggles and patronizing them by not even attempting to play (somewhat) normally.
 
2012-09-02 01:45:49 AM  
I don't really see where going for 4th and short in the 2nd quarter is a jerk move, but I've seen these shmucks do it late in a bunch of blowouts. Oh well, they always lose at least one big one every year. That silly gadget offense always costs them a win sooner or later, usually when they face someone who can trot out equal talent. Counterintuitive, but it's often their D that breaks down because the offense scores too fast. No rest for the defense.

Hopefully they don't change anything, as I'd hate to see jerk face get a national title, and I think their uniform choices look bush league. Both cheapen the sport.
 
2012-09-02 01:45:52 AM  
Dammit. Miners farked around long enough.
OU is running downhill now. Game could've been 7-23 or at least 17-16.

Looks like a 30-7 romp now. :(
 
2012-09-02 01:46:15 AM  

Baryogenesis: Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: And no, a 22 point lead is NOTHING in the 1st quarter of football game. The dividing line for relaxing with a big lead is usually the 2nd half or 4th quarter.
When you're Oregon, from the PAC 12, ranked 5th, and a real contender for the national championship playing Arkansas State from the Sun Belt Conference with a first year head coach. a 22 point lead is pretty substantial and doesn't really call for going for 4th down conversions.

The thing is going for it on 4th and short at midfield or closer is completely normal for the Duck offense. It wasn't an eff you move. It's just what they do in that situation 95% of the time and it's a great thing to practice. If it's the 2nd quarter and I'm the coach, I'm worried about what my players are doing and getting them to focus on their execution. I'm not worried about the other team feeling bad in the 2nd quarter.

Okay, I can accept that it's par for the course with them. It doesn't really seem to be working out for them in the long run though.

What do you mean?


How many BCS Championships have his teams won? How many have they played for?
Yes, he's won 3 PAC 10/12 championships (2 with an ineligible USC) and played for one BCS, but lost)

His teams are better than most, I'll concede that point.

I'll admit, he's a successful coach, but I maintain he's a dickhead.
 
2012-09-02 01:47:28 AM  

msupf: And you just godwinned a football thread. Nice.


The, "you know who else did [x]" is the standard setup for a Godwin, but yes, that was a nice fark accomplishment.

/Godwin'd a thread not even tangentially related to Hitler
 
2012-09-02 01:48:08 AM  
Nice catch!
 
2012-09-02 01:51:15 AM  

Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: And no, a 22 point lead is NOTHING in the 1st quarter of football game. The dividing line for relaxing with a big lead is usually the 2nd half or 4th quarter.
When you're Oregon, from the PAC 12, ranked 5th, and a real contender for the national championship playing Arkansas State from the Sun Belt Conference with a first year head coach. a 22 point lead is pretty substantial and doesn't really call for going for 4th down conversions.

The thing is going for it on 4th and short at midfield or closer is completely normal for the Duck offense. It wasn't an eff you move. It's just what they do in that situation 95% of the time and it's a great thing to practice. If it's the 2nd quarter and I'm the coach, I'm worried about what my players are doing and getting them to focus on their execution. I'm not worried about the other team feeling bad in the 2nd quarter.

Okay, I can accept that it's par for the course with them. It doesn't really seem to be working out for them in the long run though.

What do you mean?

How many BCS Championships have his teams won? How many have they played for?
Yes, he's won 3 PAC 10/12 championships (2 with an ineligible USC) and played for one BCS, but lost)

His teams are better than most, I'll concede that point.

I'll admit, he's a successful coach, but I maintain he's a dickhead.


You're saying 3 conference championships, a Rose bowl championship, and a national title appearance is "not working out"? Are you the football equivalent of Studman?
 
2012-09-02 01:54:03 AM  
I know this is VERY late. I just wanted to thank you all for not killing the Penn State fans in this thread. I was really hesitant to even post today...but thank you for not killing us, and keeping the idiots at bay.

I also forgot to say earlier: May all your teams have a great season!
 
2012-09-02 01:56:54 AM  

Baryogenesis: Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: And no, a 22 point lead is NOTHING in the 1st quarter of football game. The dividing line for relaxing with a big lead is usually the 2nd half or 4th quarter.
When you're Oregon, from the PAC 12, ranked 5th, and a real contender for the national championship playing Arkansas State from the Sun Belt Conference with a first year head coach. a 22 point lead is pretty substantial and doesn't really call for going for 4th down conversions.

The thing is going for it on 4th and short at midfield or closer is completely normal for the Duck offense. It wasn't an eff you move. It's just what they do in that situation 95% of the time and it's a great thing to practice. If it's the 2nd quarter and I'm the coach, I'm worried about what my players are doing and getting them to focus on their execution. I'm not worried about the other team feeling bad in the 2nd quarter.

Okay, I can accept that it's par for the course with them. It doesn't really seem to be working out for them in the long run though.

What do you mean?

How many BCS Championships have his teams won? How many have they played for?
Yes, he's won 3 PAC 10/12 championships (2 with an ineligible USC) and played for one BCS, but lost)

His teams are better than most, I'll concede that point.

I'll admit, he's a successful coach, but I maintain he's a dickhead.

You're saying 3 conference championships, a Rose bowl championship, and a national title appearance is "not working out"? Are you the football equivalent of Studman?


No, I conceded your point and admitted I was wrong regarding his success, but maintain m assertion he's a dickhead.
There's no need to attack further, I admitted I was wrong. What should I do to emphasize that point further?
 
2012-09-02 01:57:07 AM  
Well nevermind, Miners.

El Paso sucks anyway.
 
2012-09-02 01:58:13 AM  

daytight: I don't really see where going for 4th and short in the 2nd quarter is a jerk move, but I've seen these shmucks do it late in a bunch of blowouts. Oh well, they always lose at least one big one every year. That silly gadget offense always costs them a win sooner or later, usually when they face someone who can trot out equal talent. Counterintuitive, but it's often their D that breaks down because the offense scores too fast. No rest for the defense.

Hopefully they don't change anything, as I'd hate to see jerk face get a national title, and I think their uniform choices look bush league. Both cheapen the sport.


I don't agree that an offense built on speed means it's a gadget offense. I do agree that they are very vulnerable to power teams who are good at chewing up the clock. It keeps the Ducks offense off the field and tires out a defense built for speed.
 
2012-09-02 01:59:11 AM  

geom_00: I know this is VERY late. I just wanted to thank you all for not killing the Penn State fans in this thread. I was really hesitant to even post today...but thank you for not killing us, and keeping the idiots at bay.

I also forgot to say earlier: May all your teams have a great season!


There was no need to beat that horse; it's long dead. I suspect the real assholes aren't even PSU fans.
 
2012-09-02 02:03:05 AM  

Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: Krymson Tyde: Baryogenesis: And no, a 22 point lead is NOTHING in the 1st quarter of football game. The dividing line for relaxing with a big lead is usually the 2nd half or 4th quarter.
When you're Oregon, from the PAC 12, ranked 5th, and a real contender for the national championship playing Arkansas State from the Sun Belt Conference with a first year head coach. a 22 point lead is pretty substantial and doesn't really call for going for 4th down conversions.

The thing is going for it on 4th and short at midfield or closer is completely normal for the Duck offense. It wasn't an eff you move. It's just what they do in that situation 95% of the time and it's a great thing to practice. If it's the 2nd quarter and I'm the coach, I'm worried about what my players are doing and getting them to focus on their execution. I'm not worried about the other team feeling bad in the 2nd quarter.

Okay, I can accept that it's par for the course with them. It doesn't really seem to be working out for them in the long run though.

What do you mean?

How many BCS Championships have his teams won? How many have they played for?
Yes, he's won 3 PAC 10/12 championships (2 with an ineligible USC) and played for one BCS, but lost)

His teams are better than most, I'll concede that point.

I'll admit, he's a successful coach, but I maintain he's a dickhead.

You're saying 3 conference championships, a Rose bowl championship, and a national title appearance is "not working out"? Are you the football equivalent of Studman?

No, I conceded your point and admitted I was wrong regarding his success, but maintain m assertion he's a dickhead.
There's no need to attack further, I admitted I was wrong. What should I do to emphasize that point further?


Not sure you were all that wrong. Kelly is a great recruiter, but I honestly feel there are other coaches who could've win a BCS title with that talent.

Until the Ducks can win one, I think most consider them a second tier team. Good, but will probably wilt during at least one big game each year. That's what separates the SEC powers and non-sanctioned USC teams from the pretenders.
 
2012-09-02 02:06:27 AM  
Will ya'll tards stop arguing! We gotta game.
Toledo 17
Arizona 17

AZ on the 5.
 
2012-09-02 02:08:27 AM  

bionicjoe: Will ya'll tards stop arguing! We gotta game.
Toledo 17
Arizona 17

AZ on the 5.


MISSED FG!!!
OVAHTIME!!!!
 
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