Gwendolyn: Krymson Tyde: steamingpile: Slow To Return: steamingpile: And watching it this morning I could see where the college game could catch on where the NFL failed, college does have more of an excitement feel to the game since even when losing people still shout.

A lot of that excitement and atmosphere is due to the students and alumni of the teams playing the games. Minus that, college football is just a sloppier version of the professional game.

I see it as the pro version is just a slowed down version of the college game, I have been bored a lot watching pro games but college is rarely boring. The big difference is college fans support their team win or lose, just like a lot of soccer fans. Pro fans start shiatting on their team if they lose two games, like giants fans wanting coughlin fired the middle of the season they won the sb, pro fans are just dicks.

I like NFL football, I really do, but I love college football.

The NFL just doesn't have the same feel to is or something. I think, for me, it's the players. It goes from something that is fun and for the fans to a huge business to make money. I'm not saying I don't realize that college sports bring in billions of dollars. It's hard to explain I guess.

I think part of it is the complete turnover every 4 years; part of it is the pageantry of the experience; part of it is the passion of the fans. Like you said, it's hard to put your finger on it, but it's so much more exciting to me.

Krymson Tyde: ModernPrimitive01: As a Vols fan this is a good weekend for me. Watched the game last night on the lake with 25 other hardcore fans. Today watching the games with my hound dog. In 2 weeks I'll be in Neyland watching the Vols reignite the Florida rivalry. I said it's great to be a Tennessee Vol.

Pulling for the Tide tonight.

Did you see where the Tennessee fan fell and died last night?

I did hear about that. Someone died earlier this week at a Texans game as well. I would venture to say alcohol was involved in both cases. I'm surprised things like this don't happen more often. I've seen some pretty rowdy crowds in Knoxville and I don't know how there isn't more fights, accidents, etc. Although it helps that there is no beer sold in Neyland stadium (the trick is to take in airplane bottles and pour them in your soda. Not that I know anything about that).

Donnchadha: So whose bright idea was the "Touchbacks on kickoffs come out to the 25" rule?

Team doctors?

I need an entertaining game to wash the taste of that MSU-Boise car accident from last night. Come on, fraternal Ohio public university comrades!

Meanwhile, actual alma mater down early, although I don't have them on TV. State champs since 1921, let's keep it going.

Krymson Tyde: steamingpile: Slow To Return: steamingpile: And watching it this morning I could see where the college game could catch on where the NFL failed, college does have more of an excitement feel to the game since even when losing people still shout.

A lot of that excitement and atmosphere is due to the students and alumni of the teams playing the games. Minus that, college football is just a sloppier version of the professional game.

I see it as the pro version is just a slowed down version of the college game, I have been bored a lot watching pro games but college is rarely boring. The big difference is college fans support their team win or lose, just like a lot of soccer fans. Pro fans start shiatting on their team if they lose two games, like giants fans wanting coughlin fired the middle of the season they won the sb, pro fans are just dicks.

I like NFL football, I really do, but I love college football.

Judging by your handle, it would appear that you have a personal tie to the college game.

I was talking about trying to get the college game to catch on overseas, where there's little-to-no personal ties to the college game, ie students and alumni. The game would have to stand on its own merits, and as such, it essentially amounts to a sloppier version of the professional game.

Unless you think Bama could beat the Giants or Patriots?

steamingpile: I think green bay may be the closest and that's about it.

THE CHIEFS, YOU DOLT!

Seriously. Arrowhead is consistently referred to as "similar to a collegiate atmosphere".

Krymson Tyde: Gwendolyn: Krymson Tyde: steamingpile: Slow To Return: steamingpile: And watching it this morning I could see where the college game could catch on where the NFL failed, college does have more of an excitement feel to the game since even when losing people still shout.

A lot of that excitement and atmosphere is due to the students and alumni of the teams playing the games. Minus that, college football is just a sloppier version of the professional game.

I see it as the pro version is just a slowed down version of the college game, I have been bored a lot watching pro games but college is rarely boring. The big difference is college fans support their team win or lose, just like a lot of soccer fans. Pro fans start shiatting on their team if they lose two games, like giants fans wanting coughlin fired the middle of the season they won the sb, pro fans are just dicks.

I like NFL football, I really do, but I love college football.

The NFL just doesn't have the same feel to is or something. I think, for me, it's the players. It goes from something that is fun and for the fans to a huge business to make money. I'm not saying I don't realize that college sports bring in billions of dollars. It's hard to explain I guess.

I think part of it is the complete turnover every 4 years; part of it is the pageantry of the experience; part of it is the passion of the fans. Like you said, it's hard to put your finger on it, but it's so much more exciting to me.

I agree 100%. Much more passion involved from fans and players. More tradition with 100 year old rivalries. I like the slower paced games because it allows for more momentum shifts ( in the pros if you go down by 14 you're screwed, in college you can fight back). Also you see more trick plays and a greater variety of plays in general. I can watch NFL because Iove football but it doesn't compare to college

Geez I know its Buffalo but they have to call penalties when they happen, that guy practically tackled our defensive end.

Slow To Return: Krymson Tyde: steamingpile: Slow To Return: steamingpile: And watching it this morning I could see where the college game could catch on where the NFL failed, college does have more of an excitement feel to the game since even when losing people still shout.

A lot of that excitement and atmosphere is due to the students and alumni of the teams playing the games. Minus that, college football is just a sloppier version of the professional game.

I see it as the pro version is just a slowed down version of the college game, I have been bored a lot watching pro games but college is rarely boring. The big difference is college fans support their team win or lose, just like a lot of soccer fans. Pro fans start shiatting on their team if they lose two games, like giants fans wanting coughlin fired the middle of the season they won the sb, pro fans are just dicks.

I like NFL football, I really do, but I love college football.

Judging by your handle, it would appear that you have a personal tie to the college game.

I was talking about trying to get the college game to catch on overseas, where there's little-to-no personal ties to the college game, ie students and alumni. The game would have to stand on its own merits, and as such, it essentially amounts to a sloppier version of the professional game.

Unless you think Bama could beat the Giants or Patriots?

No, I'm not that foolish.

Aar1012: Ohio State interception!

Foot is out. That will be overturned. :(

PSU TD

Referee: "The result of the play is a touchdown"

Georgia fans: "meh"

Referee: "A touchdown I told ya, a TOUCHDOWN"

Georgia fans: "meh"

Slow To Return: Krymson Tyde: steamingpile: Slow To Return: steamingpile: And watching it this morning I could see where the college game could catch on where the NFL failed, college does have more of an excitement feel to the game since even when losing people still shout.

A lot of that excitement and atmosphere is due to the students and alumni of the teams playing the games. Minus that, college football is just a sloppier version of the professional game.

I see it as the pro version is just a slowed down version of the college game, I have been bored a lot watching pro games but college is rarely boring. The big difference is college fans support their team win or lose, just like a lot of soccer fans. Pro fans start shiatting on their team if they lose two games, like giants fans wanting coughlin fired the middle of the season they won the sb, pro fans are just dicks.

I like NFL football, I really do, but I love college football.

Judging by your handle, it would appear that you have a personal tie to the college game.

I was talking about trying to get the college game to catch on overseas, where there's little-to-no personal ties to the college game, ie students and alumni. The game would have to stand on its own merits, and as such, it essentially amounts to a sloppier version of the professional game.

Unless you think Bama could beat the Giants or Patriots?

You do realize a shiatload if college fans have absolutely zero connection to their chosen team over here too, right?

mikaloyd: the_ed_dawg: mikaloyd: OK Notre Dame destroyed Navy whats on next?

It's still in beta, but you can look at the in-game win probabilities to find interesting games.

Do you think tempo free will work out as well in football as basketball? Im not opposed to the concept or anything but Im not 100% convinced that speedy drives are as much a factor in football as fast/slow pace is in basketball.

The accuracy suggests that it works pretty well relative to other predictors. It allows you to identify teams that aren't that efficient offensively (Houston) and extremely efficient with a slow pace (Wisconsin, Alabama, LSU). Just looking at raw scores make it seem like some teams are unstoppable offensively, when in practice, they score so much because they get 20% more plays than your average team.

bdub77: Boiler up!

*Train whistle*

/Stupid 3:30 starts

Gonz: steamingpile: I think green bay may be the closest and that's about it.

THE CHIEFS, YOU DOLT!

Seriously. Arrowhead is consistently referred to as "similar to a collegiate atmosphere".

I have never heard that and their stadium is half empty when they suck, even bad schools sell out their home games. Well except for Georgia tech, even in their 1 loss season they had home games half full, it was pathetic.

Is it me, or was the Axe commercial frightening?

GO BLUE!!!

geom_00: I am going to get a LOT a flack for this, and you know what? I don't care.

GO! STATE! BEAT! BOBCATS!

I don't know how to say this anymore without sounding like a part of the "football culture" the NCAA described PSU as having. I hope you all will understand that I am supporting a University that I love. I am supporting the students. I am supporting alumni, staff, and faculty.

I am NOT supporting what happened.

The students and alumni that outed and stalked the victims, particularly those STILL under 18, to the extent that one is in witness protection and another's entire family had to move in secret?

Those students and alumni?

Or the staff who physically witnessed abuse and refused to say anything because they were afraid of getting fired?

That staff?

mitchcumstein1: Gonz: steamingpile: I think green bay may be the closest and that's about it.

THE CHIEFS, YOU DOLT!

Seriously. Arrowhead is consistently referred to as "similar to a collegiate atmosphere".

Not when they're shiatty it's not, and they're SHIATTY.

SharkTrager: geom_00: I am going to get a LOT a flack for this, and you know what? I don't care.

GO! STATE! BEAT! BOBCATS!

I don't know how to say this anymore without sounding like a part of the "football culture" the NCAA described PSU as having. I hope you all will understand that I am supporting a University that I love. I am supporting the students. I am supporting alumni, staff, and faculty.

I am NOT supporting what happened.

The students and alumni that outed and stalked the victims, particularly those STILL under 18, to the extent that one is in witness protection and another's entire family had to move in secret?

Those students and alumni?

Or the staff who physically witnessed abuse and refused to say anything because they were afraid of getting fired?

That staff?

I'm in here to enjoy college football. Save it for the nuke PSU from orbit threads...please?

I guess reports are right, Gurly looks really good, kind of scary since he looks like a LB out there and is said to be over 200lbs. Kid is too fast to be that big.

Injured Marshall player.

PluckYew: Donnchadha: So whose bright idea was the "Touchbacks on kickoffs come out to the 25" rule?

Team doctors?

I'm assuming it's there to provide incentive to not run it out of the endzone, but I wonder if teams especially those with good kickers and coverage might try doing really high kicks that fall short of the endzone now that anything inside the 25 is a win for the kicking team. Even if you only kick the ball to the 10 yard line, if it's high enough that you can get a tackle at the 22 yard line, that's now a win for the kicking team as opposed to the loss that it used to be.

steamingpile: I have never heard that

Here. Check Sports Illustrated.

"The closest to a college atmosphere you can get in the NFL"

You... you don't really pay a lot of attention to sports, do you?

Thank you Aar1012

SharkTrager: geom_00: I am going to get a LOT a flack for this, and you know what? I don't care.

GO! STATE! BEAT! BOBCATS!

I don't know how to say this anymore without sounding like a part of the "football culture" the NCAA described PSU as having. I hope you all will understand that I am supporting a University that I love. I am supporting the students. I am supporting alumni, staff, and faculty.

I am NOT supporting what happened.

The students and alumni that outed and stalked the victims, particularly those STILL under 18, to the extent that one is in witness protection and another's entire family had to move in secret?

Those students and alumni?

Or the staff who physically witnessed abuse and refused to say anything because they were afraid of getting fired?

That staff?

Knock it off. There have been dozens, if not hundreds, of threads for people to argue about that. This isn't one of them.

Aaron Murray is not looking very good on deep throws without AJ Green. And I know it's buffalo but I like that both the running backs are breaking arm tackles at least.

Aar1012: TOUCHDOWN OHIO STATE!

/I guess the team was late to the game

In stunning fashion, no less. Someone finally kicked open the door to the coaches box and evicted Jim Bollman. Mere minutes later, Buckeye TD!

steamingpile: You do realize a shiatload if college fans have absolutely zero connection to their chosen team over here too, right?

Now you're arguing just to argue.

That was a horrible attempt from the kicker.

Northwestern with the early lead for ugliest uniforms this season.