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2012-09-01 01:24:24 PM  
You mean when I click on the link that brings me to the discussion thread and I see my browser sending info to facebook?

Too be fair there seem to be a lot of sites that do that now.
 
2012-09-01 02:20:21 PM  
In a post on its security blog, Facebook wrote that it "recently increased our automated efforts to remove [fake] Likes" on business pages. In other words, business pages were previously puffed up thanks to shady clicks from fake or hijacked Facebook accounts.

I don't suppose anyone recalls the 'legal' business that popped up as Google gained in popularity, where assorted folks, for a fee, would guarantee more hits to your website?

Then, they promptly flooded the internet and Google with key phrases and redirectors to hit your site even if it had nothing to do with what anyone was looking for.

I once accidentally wound up on a site that was nothing but page after page of disconnected words and realized it was designed to attract search engine hits and draw attention to a single website. Somehow, I had landed on it. Normally, you never would.

As we all know, if there is a way to corrupt the Internet, it will not only be found, but done. Spammers are a good example of that. Then the redirectors. Then the tracking cookies.

Of course, SPAMMERS made their money from companies paying them to spam. When the shiat hit the fan, the spammers were arrested, but no one EVER went after the companies who made their business lucrative in the first place.
 
2012-09-01 02:31:41 PM  
Downvote
 
2012-09-01 02:33:57 PM  
This is bad news for anyone that gives a fark how many times something's been "liked" on facebook.
 
2012-09-01 02:35:24 PM  
You mean Kim Kardashian doesn't *like* shoe dazzle?
 
2012-09-01 02:38:28 PM  

cookiefleck: You mean Kim Kardashian doesn't *like* shoe dazzle?


I don't think that entity is capable of liking anything outside its own boundaries.
 
2012-09-01 02:39:34 PM  
Oh. Let me translate:

"We have to somewhat legitimize the platform now that we have to report earnings. We're actually getting called out on this stuff now."
 
2012-09-01 02:40:27 PM  

cookiefleck: You mean Kim Kardashian doesn't *like* shoe dazzle?


Can a bot have a gigantic arse?

If yes, then no.
 
2012-09-01 02:44:24 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

I have lost too many shields to this evil.
 
2012-09-01 02:45:34 PM  
Reminds me of a short story called "There is a Crooked Man" by Jack Woodham. Every new tech used by criminals will be pre-empted by the authorities. Every new tech used by the authorities will be pre-empted by criminals.

/Yeah, the end of this article mentioned that sort of arms race.
 
2012-09-01 02:45:36 PM  
"Facebook might be one of the most uptight sites on the internet, requiring everyone to log in with their name and picture and birthday and to generally behave themselves like a nerd in study hall."

I see someone read FB's wikipedia intro paragraph and wrote an article from it. Dumbass. Keep reading and you'll find FB has changed (sold out) since then.

Anyway, arms race and all that. FB doesn't have to win but they can't lose too badly - look how much legal payola is still going on. Have to keep it the right kind of payola.
 
2012-09-01 02:50:35 PM  
"Facebook?" Is this something I'm supposed to have heard of?

/oblig
 
2012-09-01 02:52:01 PM  
Facebook is trying to act as if it had power and clout over it's users. It's just another retarded social site like the millions that are out there and it is as expendable as a plastic cup at a landfill.
 
2012-09-01 02:54:49 PM  
I'm shocked that a Facebook account made for a fetus that LIKES Pampers may not be entirely reliable as a source for marketing.
 
2012-09-01 02:56:46 PM  

Dimensio: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 170x170]

I have lost too many shields to this evil.


Came to post this (although about 15 of them instead of one.)
 
2012-09-01 03:00:15 PM  
like! like! like!

www.all4wallswallpaper.com
 
2012-09-01 03:01:09 PM  

pippi longstocking: Facebook is trying to act as if it had power and clout over it's users. It's just another retarded social site like the millions that are out there and it is as expendable as a plastic cup at a landfill.


Which is why google+ is eating its lunch and will overtake Facebook any day now. Oh wait ....
 
2012-09-01 03:05:09 PM  
i291.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-01 03:06:58 PM  
idk, must be the lines in my host file
127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com
127.0.0.1 facebook.com
127.0.0.1 ads.facebook.com

don't use it, don't need it, don't trust most anonymous opinions

not like I don't see 2 to 3 ads a day for someone offering money if you have a yelp account and can give them a good rating, and they will even send you the text to use....
 
2012-09-01 03:16:01 PM  
Facebook is retarded.
 
2012-09-01 03:42:03 PM  
Facebooks slow writhing death, continues!
 
2012-09-01 03:44:36 PM  
Facebooks sucks, Ray.
 
2012-09-01 03:53:51 PM  

libranoelrose: Facebook is retarded.


Lol
 
2012-09-01 03:54:32 PM  
And yet they've got a section that says "You might like" under the article.
 
2012-09-01 03:58:31 PM  

ZzeusS: Oh. Let me translate:

"We have to somewhat legitimize the platform now that we have to report earnings. We're actually getting called out on this stuff now."


Yup, yup, yup. Look at their stock price. Investors are "disliking" their stock all over the place. (What I did there, did you like it?)
 
2012-09-01 04:02:26 PM  
Out of curiosity: is the fake like phenomenon discussed in the article a problem for company's or business who are paying for likes, or is this a global problem? For example, my Facebook fan page is 15 shy of hitting 1,000 -- should I think that's sort of nifty (if FB so irrelevant)? I haven't paid for anything, but are some of them still fake?
 
2012-09-01 04:02:38 PM  
Of course they finally admit this about an hour after the markets close for the holiday weekend, hoping that everyone will forget and not short their stock come Tuesday.

Facebook has a real future, but its stock price has been pure fantasy from day one.

MarkMartinFan: not like I don't see 2 to 3 ads a day for someone offering money if you have a yelp account and can give them a good rating, and they will even send you the text to use....


That kind of stuff hurts, since Yelp is the closest thing to a social network that I actually care about. I genuinely want great local food and services to thrive and for bad ones to GTFO already. Most shiatty places would rather moan or cheat than fix the problems. I'm glad they instituted better oversight to stop salesmen from creating pay-for-play schemes and work hard to filter sketchy reviews now, even if some first-timers get pretty butthurt when theirs don't show up immediately.

/You are not special, first-timers, we all were once.
//Have seen restaurants go so far as to offer free food if you write a good review.
 
2012-09-01 04:13:44 PM  

ThatBillmanGuy: Dimensio: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 170x170]

I have lost too many shields to this evil.

Came to post this (although about 15 of them instead of one.)


Good lord...I nostalgia'd so hard. Well done.
 
2012-09-01 04:27:29 PM  
I was right... have ALWAYS disliked Facebook and refuse to accept friends'? so-called requests. Slimier than slime, just like big brother only trying to appear to be your friend. Should have known, kids, coming from someone whose only fashion statement continues to be a hoodie. Not that there's anything wrong with hoodies, have a couple myself, but not by the boatload.
 
2012-09-01 04:34:42 PM  
I like boobies.
 
2012-09-01 04:36:58 PM  

kemosabe: I like boobies.


And turtles. Don't forget turtles.
 
2012-09-01 04:44:49 PM  

guessi'mdoingfine: I was right... have ALWAYS disliked Facebook and refuse to accept friends'? so-called requests. Slimier than slime, just like big brother only trying to appear to be your friend. Should have known, kids, coming from someone whose only fashion statement continues to be a hoodie. Not that there's anything wrong with hoodies, have a couple myself, but not by the boatload.


don't USE FACEBOOK.
 
2012-09-01 05:03:20 PM  

DrowningLessons: Out of curiosity: is the fake like phenomenon discussed in the article a problem for company's or business who are paying for likes, or is this a global problem? For example, my Facebook fan page is 15 shy of hitting 1,000 -- should I think that's sort of nifty (if FB so irrelevant)? I haven't paid for anything, but are some of them still fake?


Maybe.

If they are lazy spammers, what they will do is create thousands of dummy accounts and make that whole group like the pages of businesses that pay them. A less lazy spammer will use sub-groups and interweave which businesses get likes from his horde of accounts. The least lazy spammers will make their dummy accounts like other pages that don't pay them - this makes the dummy accounts even harder to spot by an algorithm. This last group may like your page and may get caught by an update from Facebook as fake Likes.

I run a page with close to 15K Likes and we paid for some of them with Facebook advertising - if our count goes down drastically, I may have to speak with an advertising representative there and see what's the deal.
 
2012-09-01 05:07:52 PM  

paswa17: DrowningLessons: Out of curiosity: is the fake like phenomenon discussed in the article a problem for company's or business who are paying for likes, or is this a global problem? For example, my Facebook fan page is 15 shy of hitting 1,000 -- should I think that's sort of nifty (if FB so irrelevant)? I haven't paid for anything, but are some of them still fake?

Maybe.

If they are lazy spammers, what they will do is create thousands of dummy accounts and make that whole group like the pages of businesses that pay them. A less lazy spammer will use sub-groups and interweave which businesses get likes from his horde of accounts. The least lazy spammers will make their dummy accounts like other pages that don't pay them - this makes the dummy accounts even harder to spot by an algorithm. This last group may like your page and may get caught by an update from Facebook as fake Likes.

I run a page with close to 15K Likes and we paid for some of them with Facebook advertising - if our count goes down drastically, I may have to speak with an advertising representative there and see what's the deal.


i masturbated while reading the last paragraph
 
2012-09-01 05:18:29 PM  
FTFA:

"Facebook's advertising system is built on the idea that consumers will be willing to build closer relationships with advertisers, "liking" the advertiser's pages, reading the advertiser's status updates, and circulating content about the advertiser to friends. "

Does anyone know anyone, IRL or online, who does this?
 
2012-09-01 05:28:45 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: I run a page with close to 15K Likes and we paid for some of them with Facebook advertising - if our count goes down drastically, I may have to speak with an advertising representative there and see what's the deal.

i masturbated while reading the last paragraph


You're welcome?

My point was if Facebook was selling us "fake" clicks, I'd have a problem with that. I don't go to the spammers to drive up the Like count - if I did, I would expect a reduction in the Likes to my page.
 
2012-09-01 05:36:15 PM  

paswa17: DrowningLessons: Out of curiosity: is the fake like phenomenon discussed in the article a problem for company's or business who are paying for likes, or is this a global problem? For example, my Facebook fan page is 15 shy of hitting 1,000 -- should I think that's sort of nifty (if FB so irrelevant)? I haven't paid for anything, but are some of them still fake?

Maybe.

If they are lazy spammers, what they will do is create thousands of dummy accounts and make that whole group like the pages of businesses that pay them. A less lazy spammer will use sub-groups and interweave which businesses get likes from his horde of accounts. The least lazy spammers will make their dummy accounts like other pages that don't pay them - this makes the dummy accounts even harder to spot by an algorithm. This last group may like your page and may get caught by an update from Facebook as fake Likes.

I run a page with close to 15K Likes and we paid for some of them with Facebook advertising - if our count goes down drastically, I may have to speak with an advertising representative there and see what's the deal.


Thank you Captain Spam!
 
2012-09-01 05:52:33 PM  
Firefox...+ adblock plus (3 plugins worth), ghostery, facebook disconnect, google disconnect, twitter disconnect, greasemonkey, noscript. A bit of overlapping but screw you hosebags.

/come at me bro.
 
2012-09-01 05:58:28 PM  
I look, but don't post. Won't post until all these damn sites that have "like" include a "fark-off" button. Then you can accuse me of fakery.
 
2012-09-01 06:09:55 PM  
" At least one business has already claimed its Facebook advertising spend was squandered on bot clicks."

don't you mean that small business forums are full of comment about fake likes and wasted advertising monies.

It has become such a well known and wide spread problem that FB has been forced to act.
They aren't doing this out of any sense of altruism.
 
das
2012-09-01 06:18:39 PM  

libranoelrose: kemosabe: I like boobies.

And turtles. Don't forget turtles.


Turtles?? I saw one of those!!!!
 
2012-09-01 06:23:04 PM  
Now if they can boot all of the douchebag "like sluts" who post pictures of kids with cancer and the caption, "like if you're against cancer, do nothing if you just don't care"; and pictures of soldiers with the caption, "like this if you support our troops, keep scrolling if you support. al Quaeda"; pictures of abused pets with the caption, "like if you're against cruelty to our furry friends." Screw you! Quit farking up my feed, dickwad. I'll never click like on ANY post that begs for a like-I suggest everyone do the same. All they are are modern chain letters. Quit farking your friends over by clicking like and sending these pathetic chain mails along to their news feeds. I don't think people realize that when they click like they're filling their friends pages full of SPAM (even though it should be obvious to anyone with ⅓ of a brain.
 
2012-09-01 06:27:46 PM  
Facebook isn't saying outright that businesses paid for fake clicks. But it is implying as much in today's post, referring to "vendors" of fake likes and adding, "we do not and have never permitted the purchase or sale of Facebook Likes."

There's more to this story than FB is leading on. Over the last month or two, there has been some pretty compelling evidence of bots manufacturing fake FB "like" clicks. Now, a third party botnet would have little to gain by wasting its resources doing this. The only reasonable conclusion is that FB itself was generating the fake clicks to drive up advertising revenue and they simply got caught.
 
2012-09-01 06:34:25 PM  
Oh, and one other thing: If you're one of the assholes that posts pictures of Tupperware or meat grinders or washboards with the caption: "Like" if you know what this is-I hope you catch the scrofula and lice and that your nether regions are feasted upon by the crabs off million syphilitic whores and that your bowels swell shut and that all your toes become hammered and that your nose falls off into your Rice farking Crispies, you farking butt-monkey, you.
 
2012-09-01 06:46:50 PM  

libranoelrose: Facebook is retarded.


AMEN. Fark faceyspace! Anyone stupid enough to not see the grand plot behind it is an idiot. What a great reason for doing anything - because everyone else does?? I choose to be a leader rather than a follower.
 
2012-09-01 07:05:36 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-01 07:08:02 PM  
Facebook is sleazy. It began as a tool for Mark "Weasel" Zuckerberg and his butt-buddies at Harvard to make crude comments about how "attractive" the women at their school were. It has evolved into a data mine for suckers who want to click on cows.
I would bet the farm that a real investigation would turn up millions of "likes" generated by Facebook itself in order to increase their revenue.
Sleazy is the right word for Facebook and Zuckerberg.
 
2012-09-01 07:12:28 PM  

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: FTFA:

"Facebook's advertising system is built on the idea that consumers will be willing to build closer relationships with advertisers, "liking" the advertiser's pages, reading the advertiser's status updates, and circulating content about the advertiser to friends. "

Does anyone know anyone, IRL or online, who does this?


There are some companies who offer coupons and advertise special sales through their Facebook pages. Usually you have to like their page to get the coupon. If they do coupons often enough and the sales are good enough, I'll keep an eye on them and pass the word to interested friends.If a company does nothing but stupid self-promoting and fatuous updates, they're gone.

There is one company where I keep them liked because whoever they've got doing their Facebook updates is actually pretty amusing, but generally when I like a company, it's just a matter of utility.
 
2012-09-01 07:13:45 PM  
I'll join facebook when they have an "I fapped to this" like button.

/some "likes" matter more than others
 
2012-09-01 07:21:16 PM  
Subby's headline: now to the tune of MEOW MIX!

/...I'll show myself out.
 
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