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2012-09-01 07:45:07 AM
Dempsey was a forgone conclusion, but losing Dembele to Spurs as well really hurts. Don't know how we'll replace his presence and pace. Happy to see Berbatov in white though.

/COYW
 
2012-09-01 07:45:30 AM
Just in time!

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Trust me, starting on 0 this week makes you distinctly mid-table.
 
2012-09-01 07:46:53 AM
Ouch. Not a good start. Nice work by the Hammers.
 
2012-09-01 07:50:10 AM

Cognitive Displaysia: Ouch. Not a good start. Nice work by the Hammers.


I have this at 1-1. Goal the old Toon combo.
 
2012-09-01 07:53:19 AM
Link is a slideshow. Here's their ranking of the top ten signings ing the summer transfer window:
 
10. Lukas Podolski: Koln to Arsenal £10.9m
 
With Robin Van Persie or without the acquisition of German international Lukas Podolski is a very clever one. The 27 year old has amassed over 100 caps and even though his Koln side were relegated last term the adaptable attacker still finished the season as one of the top scorers in the Bundesliga.
 
9.Pavel Pogrebnyak: Free Agent to Reading
 
Fulham dropped the ball on his one. The Russian international was most impressive during his half season long loan spell at Craven Cottage, netting six goals in 12 games but Martin Jol failed to secure the big forward to a deal before he left for the Euro 2012 finals. Reading boss Brian McDermott knew he needed to improve his attack and has managed to do so without paying a penny, as proven with his first goal of the campaign at Stamford Bridge.
 
8. Gaston Ramirez: Bologna to Southampton £11.8m
 
Southampton have pulled off something of a coup with this capture. The newly promoted side not afraid to put their money where their mouths are and the signing of the Uruguayan international is not only a big statement of intent it could go some way to securing the St Mary's side a Premier League spot. The Bologna man has impressed many in the two seasons he spent in Serie A and the 21 year old was being linked with some big hitters but Nigel Adkins got his man and he may well prove to be an inspired bit of business.
 
7. Robin Van Persie: Arsenal to Man United £24m
 
Depending on who you speak to some will argue that £24m is a big price to pay for a 29 year old with a year left on his contract but then others, wisely, will note that Man United have landed the most in-form striker in the Premier League. The Dutchman showed what he is capable of by putting away a tidy goal on his full debut against Fulham and with Wayne Rooney out for a month with injury the former Gunners skipper may well get into gear for the Old Trafford side.
 
6. Santi Cazorla: Malaga to Arsenal £15m
 
There are conflicting reports as to how much Arsenal spent on the Spanish international but any deal in the region of £15m is something of a steal. Statistically speaking the Malaga man was one of the standout players in Europe last term, helping the La Rosaelda side to a maiden Champions League berth. Arsene Wenger has clearly made the most of the fact that Malaga are in a dire financial situation and have come away with a truly quality signing who is sure to light up the Premier League next term.
 
5. Nuri Sahin: Real Madrid to Liverpool Loan
 
Brendan Rodgers relationship with Jose Mourinho may well have paved the way for this impressive loan capture. The Turkish international has a point to prove having not been given the chance to shine at the Bernabeu and Liverpool could well do with extra creativity in their midfield. Liverpool may well look to make the temporary move a permanent one if the former Borussia Dortmund man fulfills his undoubted potential during his loan spell at the Anfield club.
 
4.Shinji Kagawa: Borussia Dortmund to Man United £12m (could rise to £17m)
 
Japanese international Kagawa adapted to life in the Bundesliga with abundant ease, helping his side to back to back domestic titles in the two seasons he was there. Now Sir Alex Ferguson will be looking to the attacking midfielder to do likewise in the English top tier.
 
An initial fee of £12m makes this signing a real bargain and even if the goal-scoring midfielder does end up costing the club a tad more it will still represent a very good bit of business by the Old Trafford side. Looked a player of real quality and has impressed in Man United's first two games of the campaign.
 
3. Dimitar Berbatov: Man United to Fulham Undisclosed
 
Martin Jol has pulled off a cracker on transfer deadline-day. Dimitar Berbatov has been forced out at Man United, despite the fact that the former Tottenham man has netted 27 goals in his last 44 Premier League appearances. The stylish forward found himself fifth in the Old Trafford pecking order following the arrival of Robin Van Persie and Fulham fans may well see the Bulgarian international prove to Sir Alex Ferguson that he still has a lot to offer in the English top tier.
 
2. Michu: Rayo Vallecano to Swansea City £1.7m
 
In terms of value for money there simply can not be a better deal struck this summer than the deal Michael Laudrup made to bring talented goal-scoring midfielder Michu to the Liberty Stadium. Though the rangy midfielder had been something of a hidden gem during his spells at Oviedo and Celta Vigo, last term the 26 year old came into his own.
 
Michu notched up 15 La Liga goals from an attacking midfield role and must surely have been the subject of much interest so for the Welsh side to then nab the talented flair player for just £1.7m is mind-boggling. Three goals in his first two games for Swansea City.
 
1.Eden Hazard: Lille to Chelsea £32.5m
 
He didn't come cheap but Roman Abramovich won the race to win perhaps the most sought after youngster in Europe and the signing of the Belgian adheres to the Blues attempt to reverse their ageing squad. The former Lille man had a standout season last term, even more effective than in his previous campaign when he helped Rudi Garcia's side to their first domestic title in over 50 years.
 
May be considered a long term successor to Frank Lampard, the Blues will be looking to Hazard to link midfield and attack and add a cutting edge to the Chelsea attack. Has already made a big impact in his first three Premier League matches at the Stamford Bridge club.
 
2012-09-01 07:55:22 AM

midpoint: Trust me, starting on 0 this week makes you distinctly mid-table.


Last week I thought I had a pretty good feel for most of the games. This week, every single game was a pure guess. 
 
2012-09-01 07:56:23 AM
Andy Carroll's looking good so far. Sad to see him in a different shirt though.
 
2012-09-01 07:59:39 AM

midpoint: Cognitive Displaysia: Ouch. Not a good start. Nice work by the Hammers.

I have this at 1-1. Goal the old Toon combo.


Think I have this 2-1 Fulham, but I don't think West Ham is done. There attack is looking very confident.
 
2012-09-01 08:00:45 AM

Cognitive Displaysia: midpoint: Cognitive Displaysia: Ouch. Not a good start. Nice work by the Hammers.

I have this at 1-1. Goal the old Toon combo.

Think I have this 2-1 Fulham, but I don't think West Ham is done. There attack is looking very confident.


*Their

Its too early to be awake on a Saturday yet.
 
2012-09-01 08:01:14 AM

Langston: midpoint: Trust me, starting on 0 this week makes you distinctly mid-table.

Last week I thought I had a pretty good feel for most of the games. This week, every single game was a pure guess.


Liverpool looking a bit light upfront now.
Which teams do you thinbk did well in the window? NUFC oly added Anita to the first team squad, but the key players are all still there. Shame for Ryan Taylor - he is a decent and flexible player with good set-pieces.
 
2012-09-01 08:11:09 AM
West Ham 1 - Fulham 2
Spurs 2 - 1 Norwich
West Brom 1 - Everton 2
Wigan 1 - 2 Stoke (Insurance)
Man City 3 - 0 QPR (Banker)
Liverpool 1 - 1 Arsenal
Newcastle 2 - 0 Aston Villa
Southampton 0 - 2 Man Utd

Dear God, let this go better than last week did.
 
2012-09-01 08:13:08 AM

tom servo bit me: West Ham 1 - Fulham 2
Spurs 2 - 1 Norwich
West Brom 1 - Everton 2
Wigan 1 - 2 Stoke (Insurance)
Man City 3 - 0 QPR (Banker)
Liverpool 1 - 1 Arsenal
Newcastle 2 - 0 Aston Villa
Southampton 0 - 2 Man Utd

Dear God, let this go better than last week did.


Your predictions are quite similar to mine.

Now, now I'm worried...
 
2012-09-01 08:13:12 AM

midpoint: Liverpool looking a bit light upfront now.
Which teams do you thinbk did well in the window? NUFC oly added Anita to the first team squad, but the key players are all still there. Shame for Ryan Taylor - he is a decent and flexible player with good set-pieces.


Liverpool needed a striker. Fulham were charging way over for Dempsey (reports are they charged a higher fee for Pool than the ones they accepted from Villa and Spurs), and Chelsea couldn't get a replacement for Sturridge, so those two thing killed us on the last day.

Spurs and Man City made out like bandits in this last week.
 
2012-09-01 08:14:33 AM

ADubs86: midpoint: Liverpool looking a bit light upfront now.
Which teams do you thinbk did well in the window? NUFC oly added Anita to the first team squad, but the key players are all still there. Shame for Ryan Taylor - he is a decent and flexible player with good set-pieces.

Liverpool needed a striker. Fulham were charging way over for Dempsey (reports are they charged a higher fee for Pool than the ones they accepted from Villa and Spurs), and Chelsea couldn't get a replacement for Sturridge, so those two thing killed us on the last day.

Spurs and Man City made out like bandits in this last week.



You anti-semite you.
 
2012-09-01 08:15:20 AM
Well, thats torn it.
 
2012-09-01 08:17:26 AM

midpoint: Spurs and Man City made out like bandits in this last week.


You anti-semite you.


Hmm?
Oh, you thought I was making a greedy Jew/Arab joke? I wasn't.
 
2012-09-01 08:20:13 AM

ADubs86: midpoint: Spurs and Man City made out like bandits in this last week.


You anti-semite you.

Hmm?
Oh, you thought I was making a greedy Jew/Arab joke? I wasn't.


Only teasing.

I imagine Chupracabra hearing about events Fulham-wise in installments somewhere obscure and being repeatedly stupefied.
 
2012-09-01 08:21:12 AM
West Ham 0 - Fulham 1
Swansea 2 - 0 Sunderland
Spurs 2 - 1 Norwich
West Brom 1 - Everton 1
Wigan 1 - 0 Stoke (Insurance)
Man City 3 - 0 QPR (Banker)
Liverpool 1 - 1 Arsenal
Newcastle 3 - 1 Aston Villa
Southampton 1 - 3 Man Utd
 
2012-09-01 08:21:46 AM

ADubs86: midpoint: Liverpool looking a bit light upfront now.
Which teams do you thinbk did well in the window? NUFC oly added Anita to the first team squad, but the key players are all still there. Shame for Ryan Taylor - he is a decent and flexible player with good set-pieces.

Liverpool needed a striker. Fulham were charging way over for Dempsey (reports are they charged a higher fee for Pool than the ones they accepted from Villa and Spurs), and Chelsea couldn't get a replacement for Sturridge, so those two thing killed us on the last day.

Spurs and Man City made out like bandits in this last week.


'pool might be light upfront, but I can't get too worked up over missing out on Dempsey or Sturridge. Dempsey would have been helpful, but Sturridge is just more overpriced English shiat.
 
2012-09-01 08:22:06 AM

midpoint: tom servo bit me: West Ham 1 - Fulham 2
Spurs 2 - 1 Norwich
West Brom 1 - Everton 2
Wigan 1 - 2 Stoke (Insurance)
Man City 3 - 0 QPR (Banker)
Liverpool 1 - 1 Arsenal
Newcastle 2 - 0 Aston Villa
Southampton 0 - 2 Man Utd

Dear God, let this go better than last week did.

Your predictions are quite similar to mine.

Now, now I'm worried...


You guys left out Swansea
 
2012-09-01 08:24:43 AM

midpoint: Liverpool looking a bit light upfront now.
Which teams do you thinbk did well in the window? NUFC oly added Anita to the first team squad, but the key players are all still there. Shame for Ryan Taylor - he is a decent and flexible player with good set-pieces.

 
Liverpool didn't bring in the big names (aside from Sahin, who I really wanted to see in a Gunners shirt), but aside from a few defensive miscues that have dogged them, they looked great against City and still have a lot of quality in the squad. Arsenal will have a lot to deal with tomorrow and I'm still not convinced that the strikers have gelled enough yet to take advantage of miscues. I'm hopeful but not yet convinced.
 
I'd have to say that Chelsea had the best overall pickups in the transfer window with Eden Hazard and Oscar, Victor Moses and Marko Marin. Huge outlay, but all of them are quality. I think Tottenham also had a lot of great signings: Sigurdsson, Vertonghen, Dembele and Dempsey will help fill holes immensely. If Van Persie stays healthy, I think you'd have to tip your hat to Manchester United's pickups of both him and Kagawa. 
 
I liked all three of Arsenal's early pickups, particularly Cazorla, although I also think we're light on defense. Arsenal has chronic injury problems that typically strike in November. I wish there was more depth in the back four.
 
2012-09-01 08:26:34 AM
West Ham is just clicking today. Wow.
 
2012-09-01 08:27:01 AM

HaywoodJablonski: You guys left out Swansea


I'm just picking those crazy Welsh bastards to crush their opponents by at least 3 goals every week. And I'll keep on doing it until they prove me wrong.
 
2012-09-01 08:28:22 AM
Ugh. I should have slept in this morning. Our backfield is porous.
 
2012-09-01 08:28:45 AM
Welp, I had this game as a draw. Unless Berba pulls a hat trick out of his ass that's -10 points to start the day. Great.
 
2012-09-01 08:29:34 AM
and still have a lot of quality in the squad

ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Surely not serious? I'm not sure 'pool has any players of any real (world class) quality at all. Lucas and Agger is about it, unless you're counting the shadow of his former self Gerrard.
 
2012-09-01 08:31:00 AM

drewogatory: and still have a lot of quality in the squad

ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Surely not serious? I'm not sure 'pool has any players of any real (world class) quality at all. Lucas and Agger is about it, unless you're counting the shadow of his former self Gerrard.


Lucas is out for 2/3 months I understand. Thought Arsenal could do with some more in the DM area.
 
2012-09-01 08:47:48 AM
Berba on, probably too late.
 
2012-09-01 08:50:26 AM
West Ham 2 - Fulham 2 (Insurance)
Swansea 1 - 2 Sunderland
Spurs 2 - 1 Norwich
West Brom 0 - Everton 1
Wigan 1 - 2 Stoke
Man City 3 - 1 QPR
Liverpool 1 - 1 Arsenal
Newcastle 1 - 0 Aston Villa
Southampton 0 - 2 Man Utd (Banker)

38th place, YEAH!!!!
 
2012-09-01 08:55:33 AM

drewogatory: ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Surely not serious? I'm not sure 'pool has any players of any real (world class) quality at all. Lucas and Agger is about it, unless you're counting the shadow of his former self Gerrard.


Lucas, Agger, you seem to be forgetting about the nightmare that is Luis Suarez. Yes, he dives too much and has the most punchable face in the league, but the only person that seems to make more of his chances is Sergio Aguero. Skrtel made that embarrassing mistake last week but is a solid defender in my observation. And you just picked up Nuri Sahin for the season. Just wait until you see what he does in midfield.
 
You also have some younger players that are finding their feet and will be daggers as the season goes on.
 
2012-09-01 08:57:20 AM
Carroll is giving Hangeland a run today.

Gahh Andy, why couldn't you do that in a Liverpool shirt?
 
2012-09-01 08:59:41 AM

Langston: drewogatory: ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Surely not serious? I'm not sure 'pool has any players of any real (world class) quality at all. Lucas and Agger is about it, unless you're counting the shadow of his former self Gerrard.

Lucas, Agger, you seem to be forgetting about the nightmare that is Luis Suarez. Yes, he dives too much and has the most punchable face in the league, but the only person that seems to make more of his chances is Sergio Aguero. Skrtel made that embarrassing mistake last week but is a solid defender in my observation. And you just picked up Nuri Sahin for the season. Just wait until you see what he does in midfield.
 
You also have some younger players that are finding their feet and will be daggers as the season goes on.


Suarez is overrated and has an abysmal conversion rate. Skrtel is decent, not great. Sahin doesn't count, since there is no option to buy he's gone after the season, and with no strike force his impact will be minimal at best. I'm struggling to see a top half side here.
 
2012-09-01 09:00:57 AM
My picks are already sucking this week:
 
West Ham 1 - Fulham 2
Swansea 1 - 0 Sunderland
Spurs 2 - 0 Norwich
West Brom 1 - 2 Everton
Wigan 3 - 1 Stoke
Man City 4 - 0 QPR
Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal
Newcastle 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Southampton 1 - 2 Man Utd (Banker)
 
2012-09-01 09:02:12 AM

Langston: My picks are already sucking this week:
 
West Ham 1 - Fulham 2
Swansea 1 - 0 Sunderland
Spurs 2 - 0 Norwich
West Brom 1 - 2 Everton
Wigan 3 - 1 Stoke
Man City 4 - 0 QPR
Liverpool 1 - 2 Arsenal
Newcastle 2 - 1 Aston Villa
Southampton 1 - 2 Man Utd (Banker)


Two of you more confident that MUFC will win away at Southampton than that MCFC will win at home to QPR?
 
2012-09-01 09:05:36 AM

midpoint: Two of you more confident that MUFC will win away at Southampton than that MCFC will win at home to QPR?


QPR made their signings early enough that they could feature if they wanted to, but City's were too late in the day. Not too keen on City getting it done, but I think they'll still pull it out.

S'hampton don't get to trot out Ramirez, eho I think would have run riot in the weakened midfield, so United is the surer bet.
 
2012-09-01 09:10:15 AM
I'm glad i'm not the only one who thought Fulham would win this game. What the hell is going on?

I'm almost tempted to change my predictions to Norwich and Southampton wins
 
2012-09-01 09:11:18 AM
Carroll off with a hamstring injury.
 
2012-09-01 09:11:53 AM
And Andy blows a hammy jumping on Brede's back. Maybe we're lucky he didn't stay in a Liverpool shirt.
 
2012-09-01 09:20:26 AM

drewogatory: Suarez is overrated and has an abysmal conversion rate. Skrtel is decent, not great. Sahin doesn't count, since there is no option to buy he's gone after the season, and with no strike force his impact will be minimal at best. I'm struggling to see a top half side here.
 
  Suarez may be overrated, but he still creates a lot of chances when he has room to move. I see Sahin making a big, big impact for Liverpool even if it is only for this season. I've said before that Liverpool had awful luck last season and lost a lot of games that they were winning, a lot of games that they should have won. Every team has those, but it seemed that Liverpool was damn near cursed last year. I don't see that happening nearly as often this season. Liverpool will finish in the top 10 unless they get into some bad injury problems.  
midpoint: Two of you more confident that MUFC will win away at Southampton than that MCFC will win at home to QPR?


Actually, I copied and pasted nathanjr's post and forgot to erase the (Banker) notation. I forgot who my banker is, but my insurance is on Arsenal/Liverpool because I have no idea how that game will end. I don't think I'd be surprised if we drew, crushed Liverpool, or got crushed by Liverpool. Anything could happen. 
 
2012-09-01 09:20:51 AM

ADubs86: And Andy blows a hammy jumping on Brede's back. Maybe we're lucky he didn't stay in a Liverpool shirt.


Cramp. Don't think it's a hammy.
 
2012-09-01 09:25:13 AM
I see Sahin making a big, big impact for Liverpool even if it is only for this season.

Kind of pointless though, no? He won't make enough of an impact to finish top 4, and he really just papers over the cracks, since there's no way 'pool will splash out the kind of dosh needed to replace him like for like when Madrid recalls him. Stupid lower table move when your potentially best player is a loaner.
 
2012-09-01 09:37:30 AM
Full time at Upton Park 3-0 to West Ham

So did any Farkers actualy guess that result?
 
2012-09-01 09:45:18 AM

drewogatory: Kind of pointless though, no? He won't make enough of an impact to finish top 4, and he really just papers over the cracks, since there's no way 'pool will splash out the kind of dosh needed to replace him like for like when Madrid recalls him. Stupid lower table move when your potentially best player is a loaner.


After the painful season you had to endure (and endure, and endure) last season, I totally understand where you're coming from. Objectively, I can see how you'd see the players individually and not see any of them as international superstars and lower your expectations accordingly. I get that. 
 
I agree with you in saying that the team in it's current form won't threaten the top of the table in their current form. Things might change, though. Injuries change things. Fatigue changes things. Upsets happen. Brendan Rodgers is a good coach, though, and a good coach with solid players can do remarkable things.  
 
2012-09-01 09:45:56 AM
My EPL Football Thought: Goddammit Spurs, I HATE Dempsey...HATE HIM. Why did you pick him up? I wanted him to go to AV so he'd be playing in Championship next year

My College Football Thought (since I can't make the thread): Some PSU fans are going to do something dumb today right to show there should have been a death penalty, right? Are we in for Huge Joe Pa chants or something that would be very insensitive? I don't think we'll get a trolling fan sign or a Pedobear, but something might be up.
 
2012-09-01 09:47:25 AM
I thought my predictions last week were pretty sensible, but I got two correct and seven incorrect. For this game, I thought Fulham won't win away, and the Hammers won't score because they were awful against Swansea. 0-0 seemed sensible. But no. Another -10. Stupid game.

Apart from United and City winning, I can't remember what else I picked. Wake me up if I ever get to the first page.

/Sir Alex's 1,000th league game in charge tomorrow.
 
2012-09-01 09:58:21 AM

Langston: drewogatory: Kind of pointless though, no? He won't make enough of an impact to finish top 4, and he really just papers over the cracks, since there's no way 'pool will splash out the kind of dosh needed to replace him like for like when Madrid recalls him. Stupid lower table move when your potentially best player is a loaner.

After the painful season you had to endure (and endure, and endure) last season, I totally understand where you're coming from. Objectively, I can see how you'd see the players individually and not see any of them as international superstars and lower your expectations accordingly. I get that. 
 
I agree with you in saying that the team in it's current form won't threaten the top of the table in their current form. Things might change, though. Injuries change things. Fatigue changes things. Upsets happen. Brendan Rodgers is a good coach, though, and a good coach with solid players can do remarkable things.


I'm not against being a mid table team if some attractive football is played. I am against a season that looks to have a huge number of incredibly boring nil-nil draws. I'd much rather win/lose 3-2 or 4-3 than watch a stingy defense combined with an inneffectual attack.
 
2012-09-01 10:01:10 AM

drewogatory: Langston: drewogatory: Kind of pointless though, no? He won't make enough of an impact to finish top 4, and he really just papers over the cracks, since there's no way 'pool will splash out the kind of dosh needed to replace him like for like when Madrid recalls him. Stupid lower table move when your potentially best player is a loaner.

After the painful season you had to endure (and endure, and endure) last season, I totally understand where you're coming from. Objectively, I can see how you'd see the players individually and not see any of them as international superstars and lower your expectations accordingly. I get that. 
 
I agree with you in saying that the team in it's current form won't threaten the top of the table in their current form. Things might change, though. Injuries change things. Fatigue changes things. Upsets happen. Brendan Rodgers is a good coach, though, and a good coach with solid players can do remarkable things.

I'm not against being a mid table team if some attractive football is played. I am against a season that looks to have a huge number of incredibly boring nil-nil draws. I'd much rather win/lose 3-2 or 4-3 than watch a stingy defense combined with an inneffectual attack.


You are Kevin Keegan and I claim my prize
 
2012-09-01 10:08:08 AM
Well, at least Wenger picked up that teenaged keeper from a Maldovian third division team, he will surely cure our midfield needs.

/time for him to go
//Wonder what kind of job David Moyes could do with the $$ Wenger never spends?
 
2012-09-01 10:09:29 AM

drewogatory: a stingy defense combined with an inneffectual attack.


I'm sorry, I didn't catch that over your flawless description of Arsenal so far this season. 
 
Seriously though, I agree with you on that. And for health reasons for you and Reds fans everywhere, I hope Liverpool doesn't have the same kind of season as last. Blood pressure medication is expensive.
 
2012-09-01 10:12:12 AM
Carroll out for 2-4 weeks.
 
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