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(Daily Mail)   In India, there are dorms full of impoverished women serving as surrogates for rich westerners. For $30,000 a couple can send their sperm and egg to a clinic in India, and their child will develop inside a woman that they will never meet   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 102
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2012-08-31 11:07:51 PM
You have a problem with this, submitter? These women receive the best medical care, and $30,000 sets them up for life.
 
2012-08-31 11:13:06 PM

Sgygus: You have a problem with this, submitter? These women receive the best medical care, and $30,000 sets them up for life.


Not to mention, she and her new pimp/dealer will never try to jack them up for more money years later by suing them for the child. Seems like a safe option.
 
2012-08-31 11:16:36 PM

Sgygus: You have a problem with this, submitter? These women receive the best medical care, and $30,000 sets them up for life.


TFA: Of the £20,000, the Indian woman will earn between £3,000 - £6,000

/Just for clarification.
//Not subby.
 
2012-08-31 11:17:49 PM
Sheesh, we're offshoring everything now!
 
2012-08-31 11:20:54 PM
That's an awful lot of money just to have somebody malnourish your fetus.
 
2012-08-31 11:23:28 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Sgygus: You have a problem with this, submitter? These women receive the best medical care, and $30,000 sets them up for life.

Not to mention, she and her new pimp/dealer will never try to jack them up for more money years later by suing them for the child. Seems like a safe option.


I've spent a LOT of time in India and I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, her $9,000 share is probably about 15 years of income, if she's lucky. Do that twice and you're set for life.

My concern is that she'll be completely ripped off and otherwise abused. If I knew the woman is well taken care of and was assured she'd get the money, I still don't love it, but I also know what hurdles these women face and generally favor options that help them break out.
 
2012-08-31 11:23:37 PM
'Her function is to sustain the foetus we have created. Her blood is pumping around its body and she is feeding it through her placenta, but she is just a vessel. The baby she gives birth to on our behalf will carry none of her genes and bear no physical resemblance to her.

'She speaks a different language. She lives in a world culturally, economically and socially so remote from ours that the distance between us is unbridgeable.'


And after all, it's not like she's really a person. She's just the earthen vessel for our golden Caucasian genes.
 
2012-08-31 11:33:58 PM
OK Daily Fail. Why do remember seeing this exact article a looong time ago yet it says published today?
 
2012-08-31 11:34:19 PM
... I'd prefer to deliver the sperm in person.
 
2012-08-31 11:35:09 PM

Chariset: 'Her function is to sustain the foetus we have created. Her blood is pumping around its body and she is feeding it through her placenta, but she is just a vessel. The baby she gives birth to on our behalf will carry none of her genes and bear no physical resemblance to her.

'She speaks a different language. She lives in a world culturally, economically and socially so remote from ours that the distance between us is unbridgeable.'

And after all, it's not like she's really a person. She's just the earthen vessel for our golden Caucasian genes.

Nicely spoken in type.
 
2012-08-31 11:42:19 PM

PreMortem: OK Daily Fail. Why do remember seeing this exact article a looong time ago yet it says published today?


I'm really hoping this is just the Daily Fail doing what it does best. I can't imagine anyone so insensitive as to say "Another woman is providing the uterus for our baby, but she's just a rent-a-womb and we've agreed not to see her or think of her or spend any time with her whatsoever. We're paying her, and she'd rather have the money anyway, right?"
 
2012-08-31 11:43:36 PM

Chariset: 'Her function is to sustain the foetus we have created. Her blood is pumping around its body and she is feeding it through her placenta, but she is just a vessel. The baby she gives birth to on our behalf will carry none of her genes and bear no physical resemblance to her.

'She speaks a different language. She lives in a world culturally, economically and socially so remote from ours that the distance between us is unbridgeable.'

And after all, it's not like she's really a person. She's just the earthen vessel for our golden Caucasian genes.


No, see, she's making money. Therefore it must be good somehow.
 
2012-08-31 11:46:58 PM
Toss in frozen embryos that can be preserved for years and you could come up with a whole "which came first, the chick or the egg" question
 
2012-08-31 11:51:22 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Sheesh, we're offshoring everything now!


Came here for THIS. Thank you.
 
2012-08-31 11:52:43 PM

PreMortem: OK Daily Fail. Why do remember seeing this exact article a looong time ago yet it says published today?


Perhaps you've become unstuck in time...
 
2012-08-31 11:53:50 PM

Fark Me To Tears: PreMortem: OK Daily Fail. Why do remember seeing this exact article a looong time ago yet it says published today?

Perhaps you've become unstuck in time...


Billy? Is that you?
 
2012-08-31 11:53:52 PM

Chariset: 'Her function is to sustain the foetus we have created. Her blood is pumping around its body and she is feeding it through her placenta, but she is just a vessel. The baby she gives birth to on our behalf will carry none of her genes and bear no physical resemblance to her.

'She speaks a different language. She lives in a world culturally, economically and socially so remote from ours that the distance between us is unbridgeable.'

And after all, it's not like she's really a person. She's just the earthen vessel for our golden Caucasian genes.


I read this book. It does not end well.
 
2012-08-31 11:57:27 PM
our golden Caucasian genes

Indian people are anthropologically Caucasian.
 
2012-09-01 12:20:24 AM
But what caste is she? This is important, people!
 
2012-09-01 12:26:53 AM

Sgygus: our golden Caucasian genes

Indian people are anthropologically Caucasian.


So what you're saying is that I'm part of a less-interracial-than-I-thought couple?

/not that race mattered to me, I just happened to end up with an Indian girl
 
2012-09-01 12:32:18 AM
Recent genetic research indicates that the Indian subcontinent was subjected to a series of massive Indo-European migrations about 1500 BC, FreakinB.

/thank you Wikipedia
 
2012-09-01 12:47:52 AM
Actually, it's not widely reported but this practice dates back hundreds of years. Unfortunately, in about 10% of cases, the surrogate mother forms a bond with the child and in some cases actually goes and kidnaps the child months, it even years after the birth. It's where the term "Indian giver" originates from.
 
2012-09-01 12:50:39 AM

FreakinB: Sgygus: our golden Caucasian genes

Indian people are anthropologically Caucasian.

So what you're saying is that I'm part of a less-interracial-than-I-thought couple?

/not that race mattered to me, I just happened to end up with an Indian girl


i.imgur.com
You got that gene.
 
2012-09-01 02:00:04 AM

Sgygus: our golden Caucasian genes

Indian people are anthropologically Caucasian.


Was going to say "white" but it would confuse people.

'Golden white'? The hell color is that?
 
2012-09-01 03:04:22 AM
Not that anyone else on Fark is going to point it out, but this is exactly what to expect with the liberal mindset: children only exist if a business or government acknowledges their existence. "Parenthood" is an accident to the liberal thought process. It's something that has to be handled by the government, because the "parent" can't be held responsible for having the child.

These people buy their kids IN THE WOMB because they want to circumvent the UK government. They are patriots. They are better farking parents than any of you farkers will ever be.
 
2012-09-01 05:42:08 AM
axlotl tanks
I have no problem with this.
 
2012-09-01 05:45:02 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's where the term "Indian giver" originates from.


cdn.gunaxin.com

/Likes the cut of your jib
 
2012-09-01 05:45:58 AM

Lsherm: Not that anyone else on Fark is going to point it out, but this is exactly what to expect with the liberal mindset: children only exist if a business or government acknowledges their existence. "Parenthood" is an accident to the liberal thought process. It's something that has to be handled by the government, because the "parent" can't be held responsible for having the child.

These people buy their kids IN THE WOMB because they want to circumvent the UK government. They are patriots. They are better farking parents than any of you farkers will ever be.


-1/10. Far too obvious.
 
2012-09-01 05:51:22 AM

Sgygus: our golden Caucasian genes

Indian people are anthropologically Caucasian.


Caucasian? What's that? They are asking for the race of all patients now at the doctors office so they can properly track everyone and garner statistics. "Caucasian" is a dirty word now. You are a 'non-Hispanic' white person..move along citizen.
 
2012-09-01 05:53:49 AM

fusillade762: But what caste is she? This is important, people!


If she's overseas, and they never have contact, I'm going with 'untouchable'...
 
2012-09-01 05:59:42 AM
(checks Yellow Pages)

Single Womb Occupancy
Womb For One More
Ute-Я-Us
 
2012-09-01 06:01:28 AM

LordOfThePings: (checks Yellow Pages)

Single Womb Occupancy
Womb For One More
Ute-Я-Us


I was disgusted by the story itself and the state of a society when poor women are forced to sell their bodies in yet ANOTHER way to survive. Then you came along and now all I can do is laugh. I love Fark.
 
2012-09-01 06:02:11 AM
I bet you can pay just 50% that price in China.
 
2012-09-01 06:03:52 AM
Wombs with double occupancy get double money. The best part about it is that the women may get $3000.00 out of the whole thing if even that. God I love the way India treats their women.
 
2012-09-01 06:05:13 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Actually, it's not widely reported but this practice dates back hundreds of years. Unfortunately, in about 10% of cases, the surrogate mother forms a bond with the child and in some cases actually goes and kidnaps the child months, it even years after the birth. It's where the term "Indian giver" originates from.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-09-01 06:09:34 AM
Make sure to stipulate a disease-free clause (regardless of nationality/race/blah)
 
2012-09-01 06:11:01 AM

popinjay: I bet you can pay just 50% that price in China.


Would the one child policy interfere?
 
2012-09-01 06:11:22 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-09-01 06:13:35 AM
There are worse ways to make a living. Pretty sure a lot of Indian women are getting pregnant and giving birth multiple times during their lifetime without ever getting paid for it at all.
 
2012-09-01 06:13:52 AM
Great. I saw a documentary recently about the brothels in India...now all I can imagine is a kennel full of Indian women, run by folks pimping out their wombs to white ladies. Little rooms, all lined up, with a blanket and bowl of curry in each. Baby brokers/couples do walk throughs and talk about the adorable eyes on that one, or the playfulness of this one. They hand over some cash, promise to give the whelp it's shots and excitedly talk about what to name the new addition on the ride home.
 
2012-09-01 06:15:04 AM
Why would I want a curry addicted baby?
 
2012-09-01 06:21:11 AM
vegtastic.net

You missed my wife's vagina, come again!
 
2012-09-01 06:23:35 AM

Sgygus: You have a problem with this, submitter? These women receive the best medical care, and $30,000 sets them up for life.


I don't know about submitter, but I do. This is a form of subjugation and slavery. This is not cool at all.
 
2012-09-01 06:26:48 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com

kalyanpurwala.com
 
2012-09-01 06:27:57 AM

mikewadestr: Wombs with double occupancy get double money. The best part about it is that the women may get $3000.00 out of the whole thing if even that. God I love the way India treats their women.


That treads too close to 'Africans sold Africans into slavery, therefore Africa is most at fault for the Triangular Trade." Look, man: If it's Westerners doing the buying, it's not India doing this to its women. India is taking advantage, but the West is the one creating a 'want' which should not exist in a world full of abandoned children.
 
2012-09-01 06:29:22 AM
media.salon.com

Ugh. Don't type 'Hot Indian Women' into Google. You get strange results.
 
2012-09-01 06:32:35 AM

Nidiot: There are worse ways to make a living. Pretty sure a lot of Indian women are getting pregnant and giving birth multiple times during their lifetime without ever getting paid for it at all.


There's a major difference between pregnancy for one's self, which is human, and pregnancy where the mother is treated the same way the West treats a fetus: inhuman. Pregnancy for one's self is love or an accident, but it is not Cold Business.

This is Cold Business. Remember the Cylon (or Kromagg) Breeder Camps? Getting a paycheck does not erase how Life is turned into something base and worthless with this crap. Trying to pretend that this is the way to uplift these women's lives is the absolute wrong way to uplift them.
 
2012-09-01 06:33:21 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: mikewadestr: Wombs with double occupancy get double money. The best part about it is that the women may get $3000.00 out of the whole thing if even that. God I love the way India treats their women.

That treads too close to 'Africans sold Africans into slavery, therefore Africa is most at fault for the Triangular Trade." Look, man: If it's Westerners doing the buying, it's not India doing this to its women. India is taking advantage, but the West is the one creating a 'want' which should not exist in a world full of abandoned children.


Your point uses too much confrontational thinking (otherwise known as logic and reason rather than comfort through self-delusion) to go over well with human beings. Metacognition and admitting our own faults are not human beings' strengths.
 
2012-09-01 06:34:23 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Sgygus: You have a problem with this, submitter? These women receive the best medical care, and $30,000 sets them up for life.

I don't know about submitter, but I do. This is a form of subjugation and slavery. This is not cool at all.


Not slavery if they are paid and are free not to participate.
 
2012-09-01 06:37:18 AM
There's a chapter in The Red Market that details one of these baby farms. After a certain date, the women are not allowed outside and must stay in the same small room all day-similar to cattle.
 
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