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(Scientific American)   New DNA analysis shows ancient humans interbred with Neandertals and lesser-known subspecies known as the Denisovans. This most likely happened between Sandy Hook and Cape May, New Jersey   (scientificamerican.com) divider line 41
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2012-08-31 02:17:02 PM  
And your lesser known subspecies magically disappeared amiright?
 
2012-08-31 02:41:58 PM  

Stingy Alpha Wolf King Dude: And your lesser known subspecies magically disappeared amiright?


it's called 'evolution' dude. how many neanderthals have you seen recently? (not including the RNC)
 
2012-08-31 02:45:47 PM  

Stingy Alpha Wolf King Dude: And your lesser known subspecies magically disappeared amiright?


No, the show just got cancelled, they're still around Jersey somewhere.
 
2012-08-31 02:48:40 PM  

serial arseonist: Stingy Alpha Wolf King Dude: And your lesser known subspecies magically disappeared amiright?

it's called 'evolution' dude. how many neanderthals have you seen recently? (not including the RNC)


I don't have the faith you do, dude. Trillions upon trillions of variables that had to be just right for life to exist. No evidence that abiogenesis can occur spontaneously. No evidence for the nebular theory. Logical stipulations go against an infinite universe existing. The only thing you can say in your defense is it 'happened because we are here' which just as good an argument for creation theory.

/The Theory of Evolution
 
2012-08-31 03:00:37 PM  
Interesting. Last week we had a prof come out and talk about how with interracial marriage finding pure white people in America will become harder and harder in five or six generations. Basically the upper and middle class white communities intermarry fairly heavily with the upper and middle class Asian community and it appears to be fairly accepted. So based on data in five generations the established middle class as he calls it (where you, your parents, your grandparents, etc, all hold college degrees and white collar jobs) won't have many pure whites. Kind of interesting, even if I didn't totally buy into it.
 
2012-08-31 03:02:00 PM  

Stingy Alpha Wolf King Dude: serial arseonist: Stingy Alpha Wolf King Dude: And your lesser known subspecies magically disappeared amiright?

it's called 'evolution' dude. how many neanderthals have you seen recently? (not including the RNC)

I don't have the faith you do, dude. Trillions upon trillions of variables that had to be just right for life to exist. No evidence that abiogenesis can occur spontaneously. No evidence for the nebular theory. Logical stipulations go against an infinite universe existing. The only thing you can say in your defense is it 'happened because we are here' which just as good an argument for creation theory.

/The Theory of Evolution


Notsureifserious.jpeg
 
2012-08-31 03:11:31 PM  
What a Denisovian Might Look Like
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-08-31 03:21:18 PM  

Stingy Alpha Wolf King Dude: serial arseonist: Stingy Alpha Wolf King Dude: And your lesser known subspecies magically disappeared amiright?

it's called 'evolution' dude. how many neanderthals have you seen recently? (not including the RNC)

I don't have the faith you do, dude. Trillions upon trillions of variables that had to be just right for life to exist. No evidence that abiogenesis can occur spontaneously. No evidence for the nebular theory. Logical stipulations go against an infinite universe existing. The only thing you can say in your defense is it 'happened because we are here' which just as good an argument for creation theory.

/The Theory of Evolution


Shut up and read. No, I won't argue or explain. Learn something, or enjoy your own willful ignorance.
ZupToU,dude
 
2012-08-31 03:23:26 PM  

tinyarena: Stingy Alpha Wolf King Dude: serial arseonist: Stingy Alpha Wolf King Dude: And your lesser known subspecies magically disappeared amiright?

it's called 'evolution' dude. how many neanderthals have you seen recently? (not including the RNC)

I don't have the faith you do, dude. Trillions upon trillions of variables that had to be just right for life to exist. No evidence that abiogenesis can occur spontaneously. No evidence for the nebular theory. Logical stipulations go against an infinite universe existing. The only thing you can say in your defense is it 'happened because we are here' which just as good an argument for creation theory.

/The Theory of Evolution

Shut up and read. No, I won't argue or explain. Learn something, or enjoy your own willful ignorance.
ZupToU,dude


Also this.
 
2012-08-31 03:35:29 PM  

Stingy Alpha Wolf King Dude: tinyarena: Stingy Alpha Wolf King Dude: serial arseonist: Stingy Alpha Wolf King Dude: And your lesser known subspecies magically disappeared amiright?

it's called 'evolution' dude. how many neanderthals have you seen recently? (not including the RNC)

I don't have the faith you do, dude. Trillions upon trillions of variables that had to be just right for life to exist. No evidence that abiogenesis can occur spontaneously. No evidence for the nebular theory. Logical stipulations go against an infinite universe existing. The only thing you can say in your defense is it 'happened because we are here' which just as good an argument for creation theory.

/The Theory of Evolution

Shut up and read. No, I won't argue or explain. Learn something, or enjoy your own willful ignorance.
ZupToU,dude

Also this.


Phillip E. Johnson is not a scientist, he has degrees in English and law. He is a born again Christian that suffered a series of brain strokes. He believes that HIV is not the cause of AIDS. How can anything he says about evolution possibly be credible.
 
2012-08-31 03:37:15 PM  

Stingy Alpha Wolf King Dude: tinyarena: Stingy Alpha Wolf King Dude: serial arseonist: Stingy Alpha Wolf King Dude: And your lesser known subspecies magically disappeared amiright?

it's called 'evolution' dude. how many neanderthals have you seen recently? (not including the RNC)

I don't have the faith you do, dude. Trillions upon trillions of variables that had to be just right for life to exist. No evidence that abiogenesis can occur spontaneously. No evidence for the nebular theory. Logical stipulations go against an infinite universe existing. The only thing you can say in your defense is it 'happened because we are here' which just as good an argument for creation theory.

/The Theory of Evolution

Shut up and read. No, I won't argue or explain. Learn something, or enjoy your own willful ignorance.
ZupToU,dude

Also this.


Yeah, that took a good 30 seconds of Google to find out this book promotes the IC fallacy.
Like I said, enjoy your ignorance. dude
 
2012-08-31 03:42:35 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
What Ivan Denisovich looked like unamused.
 
2012-08-31 03:44:58 PM  
As has been discussed here many times before, I am really fascinated by the evolutionary "crunch" that seems to have occurred about 70,000 years ago. Apparently, there was an extreme cycle of glaciations that pushed every living thing down into South Africa, and a very few other places on the earth. That period also lasted longer than most glacial periods.

I wonder how many 'types' of humans migrated together to survive the cold, and what happened when they all met in a smaller, and smaller, area? After the glaciers retreated there was only one 'type' left. Homo Sapiens. What happened to the others?
 
2012-08-31 03:49:46 PM  
Humans will fark anything and anyone. If we are interfertile, children result. If not, we find something/someone else to fark. And we catch for them, too, no matter the risk to various organs. Some TFer could find relevant threads from the past. If Fark existed in the days of neanderthals and denisovans, links like this would have been redlit due to their pedestrian nature in favor of wooly mammoth trunk escapades.
 
2012-08-31 03:53:35 PM  
lparchive.org

Legitimate rape of Dezorian is imminent.
 
2012-08-31 03:54:33 PM  
/The Theory of Evolution

Guess how I know you didn't pay attention in high school science class.
Hint: Electromagnetic theory, inverse square law - laws are mathematical relations, theories are concepts that have been verified by data and experimentation.
 
2012-08-31 03:57:48 PM  

NotARocketScientist: /The Theory of Evolution

Guess how I know you didn't pay attention in high school science class.
Hint: Electromagnetic theory, inverse square law - laws are mathematical relations, theories are concepts that have been verified by data and experimentation.


Whose alt is he, bevets or skinnyhead?
 
2012-08-31 03:58:17 PM  
I wonder how many 'types' of humans migrated together to survive the cold, and what happened when they all met in a smaller, and smaller, area? After the glaciers retreated there was only one 'type' left. Homo Sapiens. What happened to the others?

Restricted areas and resources tend to bring war. My guess is that the differing tribes did the standard kill the men and take the women. The territory restriction may have lasted till there was only one type left.
 
2012-08-31 03:59:06 PM  

Stingy Alpha Wolf King Dude: Trillions upon trillions of variables that had to be just right for life to exist.


If trillions upon trillions of variables had to be just right for simple life to exist, surely an infinite number of variables would have had to have been just right for an omnipotent omniscient being to exist?
 
2012-08-31 03:59:31 PM  
Whose alt is he, bevets or skinnyhead?

I'm guessing skinnyhead. Bevets usually has some inappropriate quote
 
2012-08-31 04:38:44 PM  

Stingy Alpha Wolf King Dude: serial arseonist: Stingy Alpha Wolf King Dude: And your lesser known subspecies magically disappeared amiright?

it's called 'evolution' dude. how many neanderthals have you seen recently? (not including the RNC)

I don't have the faith you do, dude. Trillions upon trillions of variables that had to be just right for life to exist. No evidence that abiogenesis can occur spontaneously. No evidence for the nebular theory. Logical stipulations go against an infinite universe existing. The only thing you can say in your defense is it 'happened because we are here' which just as good an argument for creation theory.

/The Theory of Evolution


Let's go through this one by one.

Trillions upon trillions of variables that had to be just right for life to exist. Which ones? Maybe there are many variables that have to be right for life exactly like me to exist, but that doesn't mean you can't change the variable at all. Increase salinity. Decrease temperature. Dissolve a whole lot of heavy metals. The list goes on, and that's just what we know about.

No evidence that abiogenesis can occur spontaneously. Depends on exactly what you want. For instance, it seems to be possible for amino acids to come about spontaneously. Seriously, there's a link to that from the Abiogenesis page.

Logical stipulations go against an infinite universe existing. The only thing you can say in your defense is it 'happened because we are here' which just as good an argument for creation theory. I don't know how to respond to this because the first is a non sequitur and the second is the whole point of the exercise. We want to understand WHY we're here.

Now, while it certainly is an interesting question, the origin of life on earth is a separate question from the existence and details of evolution. The difference is between asking "why is anything here?" and "why is that something us?".

As for your rejection of faith, science neither asks for nor requires your faith. And Newtonian physics is only a theory, but we still got to the moon. Our model of the atom and explanation for radioactivity is just a theory, but we've built atom bombs and nuclear reactors. Perhaps you don't entirely understand what a scientist means when they use the word 'theory'.

This post hasn't contained much positive evidence for evolution, but it is readily available. For an example of micro-evolution, google "peppered moths". For evidence that humans and apes are descended from a common ancestor, google "human chromosome 2".
 
2012-08-31 04:39:38 PM  
i.imgur.com

Graphic evidence of Neanderthal/Denisovan/homo-sapiens interbreeding.
 
2012-08-31 04:45:53 PM  

ha-ha-guy: Interesting. Last week we had a prof come out and talk about how with interracial marriage finding pure white people in America will become harder and harder in five or six generations. Basically the upper and middle class white communities intermarry fairly heavily with the upper and middle class Asian community and it appears to be fairly accepted. So based on data in five generations the established middle class as he calls it (where you, your parents, your grandparents, etc, all hold college degrees and white collar jobs) won't have many pure whites. Kind of interesting, even if I didn't totally buy into it.


What is a purely white person?
 
2012-08-31 04:52:25 PM  
Humans: We'll stick our dick in anything.
 
2012-08-31 05:04:47 PM  

Stingy Alpha Wolf King Dude: And your lesser known subspecies magically disappeared amiright?


You didn't finish reading the article.

FTFA: "Even though the sole fossil specimen was found in the mountains of Siberia, contemporary humans from Melanesia (a region in the South Pacific) seem to be the most likely to harbor Denisovan DNA. The researchers estimate that some 6 percent of contemporary Papuans' genomes come from Denisovans. Australian aborigines and those from Southeast Asian islands also have traces of Denisovan DNA."

They didn't magically disappear. Their descendants live to this day. Something I find really interesting.

"Trillions upon trillions of variables that had to be just right for life to exist...Logical stipulations go against an infinite universe existing."

Yeah, it's not infinite. But have you seen just how much of it is actually out there? You say trillions upon trillions of variables that had to be just right. How about one in a trillion? That's the current estimate of planets, in our galaxy alone. Our galaxy being one of 100 to 500 billion galaxies.
 
2012-08-31 06:05:38 PM  
The Denisovans may had been the source for the belief in the Djinn who reportedly had dark skin.
 
2012-08-31 06:42:03 PM  

All2morrowsparTs: ha-ha-guy: Interesting. Last week we had a prof come out and talk about how with interracial marriage finding pure white people in America will become harder and harder in five or six generations. Basically the upper and middle class white communities intermarry fairly heavily with the upper and middle class Asian community and it appears to be fairly accepted. So based on data in five generations the established middle class as he calls it (where you, your parents, your grandparents, etc, all hold college degrees and white collar jobs) won't have many pure whites. Kind of interesting, even if I didn't totally buy into it.

What is a purely white person?


Me. I can get sunburnt on a cloudy day in December. Would it have killed one of my ancestors to have screwed an African?
 
2012-08-31 06:50:20 PM  

ChubbyTiger: Me. I can get sunburnt on a cloudy day in December. Would it have killed one of my ancestors to have screwed an African?


Maybe you should screw and African. Future generations will thank you :)
 
2012-08-31 07:08:01 PM  
Fap?
 
2012-08-31 07:15:19 PM  
Tens of thousands of years ago modern humans crossed paths with the group of hominins known as the Neandertals.

Tens of thousands of years ago modern humans crossed paths with the group of hominins

the group of hominins

hominins


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2012-08-31 07:16:53 PM  

Snark Shark II: Neandertals.
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actually they spelled this wrong too...geez...
 
2012-08-31 08:48:33 PM  

ChubbyTiger: All2morrowsparTs: ha-ha-guy: Interesting. Last week we had a prof come out and talk about how with interracial marriage finding pure white people in America will become harder and harder in five or six generations. Basically the upper and middle class white communities intermarry fairly heavily with the upper and middle class Asian community and it appears to be fairly accepted. So based on data in five generations the established middle class as he calls it (where you, your parents, your grandparents, etc, all hold college degrees and white collar jobs) won't have many pure whites. Kind of interesting, even if I didn't totally buy into it.

What is a purely white person?

Me. I can get sunburnt on a cloudy day in December. Would it have killed one of my ancestors to have screwed an African?


I'm whiter than white, and yet I'm part Cherokee. Blonde, blue eyes, very very fair skin. Not pure "white," though.
 
2012-08-31 08:52:22 PM  

Stingy Alpha Wolf King Dude: /The Theory of Evolution


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ChubbyTiger: I can get sunburnt on a cloudy day in December.


Cut back on the Australian vacations, ya bastard.
 
2012-08-31 08:57:13 PM  
i575.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-31 10:51:06 PM  

tinyarena: As has been discussed here many times before, I am really fascinated by the evolutionary "crunch" that seems to have occurred about 70,000 years ago. Apparently, there was an extreme cycle of glaciations that pushed every living thing down into South Africa, and a very few other places on the earth. That period also lasted longer than most glacial periods.

I wonder how many 'types' of humans migrated together to survive the cold, and what happened when they all met in a smaller, and smaller, area? After the glaciers retreated there was only one 'type' left. Homo Sapiens. What happened to the others?


We sexed them up, and then killed anybody left over.
 
2012-09-01 12:33:38 AM  

Snark Shark II: Tens of thousands of years ago modern humans crossed paths with the group of hominins known as the Neandertals.

Tens of thousands of years ago modern humans crossed paths with the group of hominins

the group of hominins

hominins

[unlimitedlivesblog.files.wordpress.com image 300x300]


Link
Hominini is the tribe of Homininae that comprises Homo, and the two species of the genus Pan (the common chimpanzee and the bonobo), their ancestors, and the extinct lineages of their common ancestor (but see the discussion below for alternative views). Members of the tribe are called hominins (cf. Hominidae, "hominids")

allthingsd.com
 
2012-09-01 12:46:27 AM  

NotARocketScientist: I wonder how many 'types' of humans migrated together to survive the cold, and what happened when they all met in a smaller, and smaller, area? After the glaciers retreated there was only one 'type' left. Homo Sapiens. What happened to the others?

Restricted areas and resources tend to bring war. My guess is that the differing tribes did the standard kill the men and take the women. The territory restriction may have lasted till there was only one type left.


Sounds like humans, all right.

/Homo Sapiens: We're assholes.
 
2012-09-01 12:54:08 AM  

tinyarena: As has been discussed here many times before, I am really fascinated by the evolutionary "crunch" that seems to have occurred about 70,000 years ago. Apparently, there was an extreme cycle of glaciations that pushed every living thing down into South Africa, and a very few other places on the earth. That period also lasted longer than most glacial periods.

I wonder how many 'types' of humans migrated together to survive the cold, and what happened when they all met in a smaller, and smaller, area? After the glaciers retreated there was only one 'type' left. Homo Sapiens. What happened to the others?


Where was quite significant climate change 70.000 years ago, but nothing that extreme.

"The glacial advance reached its maximum extent about 18,000 BP. In Europe, the ice sheet reached northern Germany."
 
2012-09-01 01:57:53 AM  
Dear Pentcave Forum,

You never believe what happen to Ook.
 
2012-09-01 02:15:13 AM  

Cowkitchen2: ChubbyTiger: All2morrowsparTs: ha-ha-guy: Interesting. Last week we had a prof come out and talk about how with interracial marriage finding pure white people in America will become harder and harder in five or six generations. Basically the upper and middle class white communities intermarry fairly heavily with the upper and middle class Asian community and it appears to be fairly accepted. So based on data in five generations the established middle class as he calls it (where you, your parents, your grandparents, etc, all hold college degrees and white collar jobs) won't have many pure whites. Kind of interesting, even if I didn't totally buy into it.

What is a purely white person?

Me. I can get sunburnt on a cloudy day in December. Would it have killed one of my ancestors to have screwed an African?

I'm whiter than white, and yet I'm part Cherokee. Blonde, blue eyes, very very fair skin. Not pure "white," though.


I'm not going to argue race is meaningless, but due to interbreeding, most Europeans probably have a slight amount of Moorish blood. In fact, I've even heard that the majority of modern Europeans are most likely direct descendents of both Charlemagne and Muhammad.

Think about it. If it wasn't for pedigree collapse (inbreeding), you would have an exponentially expanding number of ancestors. If you have a kid with someone, that kid inherits both all of your and all of your spouse's ancestors. A few generations of random mate selection and some guy 500 years ago probably has millions of descendents.
 
2012-09-01 09:01:27 PM  

Snark Shark II: Snark Shark II: Neandertals.
]

actually they spelled this wrong too...geez...


Not really.
 
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