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(News Leader)   Mother rushes to snowflake's defense after he shines laser into eyes of police officer. Wonders why the police officer didn't want to see the kid's Air Force enlistment papers at the scene   (newsleader.com) divider line 92
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vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-31 08:49:32 AM  
Those laser pointers can cause permanent eye damage. It sounds like the cop was giving him a break already, but some people think that anyone who joins the military should have diplomatic immunity of something.
 
2012-08-31 09:09:13 AM  

vpb: ....but some people think that anyone who joins the military should have diplomatic immunity of something.


That.
 
2012-08-31 09:09:44 AM  
Its been revoked..
 
2012-08-31 09:11:34 AM  

"He is going into the Air Force, how do you think this makes him feel?" said Karen Miller, identifying herself as the mother of Corey Miller, 18, who was arrested Thursday and charged with pointing a laser beam at a law enforcement officer.


He should feel like someone who can be tried as an adult.
 
2012-08-31 09:12:29 AM  
Is it really so hard people?

Sit still. Don't speak unless spoken to. "Yes, sir". "No, sir". Do what is asked of you, don't raise your voice, don't be intentionally belligerent. If it looks like you're going to be arrested, stop talking except to say you'd like to speak to a lawyer.

I know a lot of cops are assholes and a lot of people get stopped/detained for no reason at all, but if you find yourself in a situation like this, that's not the time to go poking the bear with a stick.
 
2012-08-31 09:12:49 AM  
I think he can kiss that enlistment in the USAF goodbye. Just playing. Yeah, right, mom. He doesn't masturbate either.
 
2012-08-31 09:15:29 AM  
Have to defend the cop here. For someone going to the Air Force, the kid is showing an astounding lack of judgement here.

On the other hand, with our society the way it is, it sucks that he is now fscked for life if the prosecutor pursues a conviction. For sure, he wont get into the military
 
2012-08-31 09:15:41 AM  

UberDave: vpb: ....but some people think that anyone who joins the military should have diplomatic immunity of something.

That.


There might be a reason people think that...
 
2012-08-31 09:17:08 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: "He is going into the Air Force, how do you think this makes him feel?" said Karen Miller, identifying herself as the mother of Corey Miller, 18, who was arrested Thursday and charged with pointing a laser beam at a law enforcement officer.


He should feel like someone who can be tried as an adult.


Listen if the dumbshiat is shining laser in people's eyes he shouldn't be going into the farking military.
 
2012-08-31 09:19:41 AM  

Death_Poot: On the other hand, with our society the way it is, it sucks that he is now fscked for life if the prosecutor pursues a conviction. For sure, he wont get into the military


Yeah, because people with convictions never join the military.

[insert eyeroll here]
 
2012-08-31 09:21:04 AM  

jayhawk88: Sit still. Don't speak unless spoken to. "Yes, sir". "No, sir". Do what is asked of you, don't raise your voice, don't be intentionally belligerent. If it looks like you're going to be arrested, stop talking except to say you'd like to speak to a lawyer.


This kind of talk makes me nervous, whether this kid was being a twat or not.
 
2012-08-31 09:23:43 AM  

Death_Poot: fscked for life


a life of file system checks...i can't imagine the horror
 
2012-08-31 09:24:50 AM  
IIRC, green wavelength lasers are more dangerous than red as well (correct me if I'm wrong). This, plus the fact that he aimed it at the officer's face while being pursued means throw his ass in jail
 
2012-08-31 09:25:19 AM  
gonna have to go with the cop on this one and when did going into the military grant immunity. If it does, why was I never told this ... I could have had a lot more fun when I was younger
 
2012-08-31 09:25:43 AM  
and didn't want to see evidence of her son's planned enlistment

How the fark is that relevant?
 
2012-08-31 09:27:07 AM  

thatboyoverthere


Englebert Slaptyback: "He is going into the Air Force, how do you think this makes him feel?" said Karen Miller, identifying herself as the mother of Corey Miller, 18, who was arrested Thursday and charged with pointing a laser beam at a law enforcement officer.


He should feel like someone who can be tried as an adult.

Listen if the dumbshiat is shining laser in people's eyes he shouldn't be going into the farking military.


*boggle*

How does what you said relate in any way to what I said?
 
2012-08-31 09:27:47 AM  

ArkAngel: IIRC, green wavelength lasers are more dangerous than red as well (correct me if I'm wrong). This, plus the fact that he aimed it at the officer's face while being pursued means throw his ass in jail


you are right, green lasers are more powerful. The most common use I've heard about is astronomy as it's easier to point a laser at the star then going that little one to left of the bright twinkling one.
 
2012-08-31 09:30:28 AM  
I'm glad I came to read the thread. While reading the article, I was interpreting "laser" as something you pick up at the Toys R Us; not as something that can actually damage a persons' vision. It makes more sense now.
 
2012-08-31 09:31:36 AM  

Rich Cream: Death_Poot: On the other hand, with our society the way it is, it sucks that he is now fscked for life if the prosecutor pursues a conviction. For sure, he wont get into the military

Yeah, because people with convictions never join the military.

[insert eyeroll here]


It is true that in war time, the Army and the Marines will take applicants who have juvenile misdemeanor offenses on their records. They need bodies to stop bullets -- which is why we used to call an infantryman (91B) an 91-bullet stopper. But the USAF has higher enlistment standards. If the cops decide to prosecute this boy, the USAF will vacate his enlistment until the case is adjudicated. If he is convicted, he will become ineligible for enlistment.
 
2012-08-31 09:32:06 AM  
When I was arrest for beating a homeless guy unconscious the cop wouldn't even look at the medal I won in tenth grade for an essay I wrote in government class. Asshole.
 
2012-08-31 09:35:37 AM  

JackieRabbit: Rich Cream: Death_Poot: On the other hand, with our society the way it is, it sucks that he is now fscked for life if the prosecutor pursues a conviction. For sure, he wont get into the military

Yeah, because people with convictions never join the military.

[insert eyeroll here]

It is true that in war time, the Army and the Marines will take applicants who have juvenile misdemeanor offenses on their records. They need bodies to stop bullets -- which is why we used to call an infantryman (91B) an 91-bullet stopper. But the USAF has higher enlistment standards. If the cops decide to prosecute this boy, the USAF will vacate his enlistment until the case is adjudicated. If he is convicted, he will become ineligible for enlistment.



If he admits to it on his enlistment form.
 
2012-08-31 09:37:16 AM  
planning on enlisting with the Air Force.
Teenagers plan on doing lots of things.
Kid's a slacker. You can tell just by the fact he picks the Air Force instead of one of the real branches.
 
2012-08-31 09:38:56 AM  
When I was arrested for eating a homeless guy the cop gave me a lead metal and pinned it in my chest.
 
2012-08-31 09:39:09 AM  

what_now: and didn't want to see evidence of her son's planned enlistment

How the fark is that relevant?


because ribbons
 
2012-08-31 09:41:38 AM  

ArkAngel: IIRC, green wavelength lasers are more dangerous than red as well (correct me if I'm wrong). This, plus the fact that he aimed it at the officer's face while being pursued means throw his ass in jail


Huh. I'll give him points for innovation.
 
2012-08-31 09:44:23 AM  

Rich Cream: JackieRabbit: Rich Cream: Death_Poot: On the other hand, with our society the way it is, it sucks that he is now fscked for life if the prosecutor pursues a conviction. For sure, he wont get into the military

Yeah, because people with convictions never join the military.

[insert eyeroll here]

It is true that in war time, the Army and the Marines will take applicants who have juvenile misdemeanor offenses on their records. They need bodies to stop bullets -- which is why we used to call an infantryman (91B) an 91-bullet stopper. But the USAF has higher enlistment standards. If the cops decide to prosecute this boy, the USAF will vacate his enlistment until the case is adjudicated. If he is convicted, he will become ineligible for enlistment.


If he admits to it on his enlistment form.


The USAF already knows. His dumbass mother had to go open her big mouth. The cops may never have known that the kid had enlisted. But they do now and they are bound by law to inform the USAF of the arrest.
 
2012-08-31 09:45:19 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: thatboyoverthere

Englebert Slaptyback: "He is going into the Air Force, how do you think this makes him feel?" said Karen Miller, identifying herself as the mother of Corey Miller, 18, who was arrested Thursday and charged with pointing a laser beam at a law enforcement officer.


He should feel like someone who can be tried as an adult.

Listen if the dumbshiat is shining laser in people's eyes he shouldn't be going into the farking military.


*boggle*

How does what you said relate in any way to what I said?


He might have been confused. Had an argument with someone the other day who thought that 18 was still a kid.
 
2012-08-31 09:45:27 AM  

jayhawk88: Is it really so hard people?

Sit still. Don't speak unless spoken to. "Yes, sir". "No, sir". Do what is asked of you, don't raise your voice, don't be intentionally belligerent. If it looks like you're going to be arrested, stop talking except to say you'd like to speak to a lawyer.

I know a lot of cops are assholes and a lot of people get stopped/detained for no reason at all, but if you find yourself in a situation like this, that's not the time to go poking the bear with a stick.


Big old heap of THIS
 
2012-08-31 09:46:36 AM  
just cause the kid was about to go into the military doesn't give him free reign to be a jackass lady
 
2012-08-31 09:47:33 AM  

Rich Cream: JackieRabbit: Rich Cream: Death_Poot: On the other hand, with our society the way it is, it sucks that he is now fscked for life if the prosecutor pursues a conviction. For sure, he wont get into the military

Yeah, because people with convictions never join the military.

[insert eyeroll here]

It is true that in war time, the Army and the Marines will take applicants who have juvenile misdemeanor offenses on their records. They need bodies to stop bullets -- which is why we used to call an infantryman (91B) an 91-bullet stopper. But the USAF has higher enlistment standards. If the cops decide to prosecute this boy, the USAF will vacate his enlistment until the case is adjudicated. If he is convicted, he will become ineligible for enlistment.


If he admits to it on his enlistment form.


They run background checks.

Something like this may make him ineligible for the Air Force, but he still will probable be able to get into the Navy or Army, and more than likely the Marines. But that is also depending on the charges.
 
2012-08-31 09:48:12 AM  
Ah the categorically in denial parent, what a joy

Ma'am Little Johnny did ______
No he didn't, he's a good boy, he would never do that
Ma'am he did it directly in front of me, I saw him
It must have been another kid that looked like him
I have the security recording showing him doing it
He must have not meant to do it.
He confessed to me that he did it on purpose.
You forced him to say that...
He's been arrested three times already for doing this same thing
Those were because of the friends he used to hang out with. He doesn't hang out with them anymore
You mean those two over there in handcuffs?
It's all their fault!

/paraphrased from actual encounters
 
2012-08-31 09:48:34 AM  
HAHA your mommy still fights your battles for you!
 
2012-08-31 09:50:01 AM  
kid needs to go into the army, maybe a good drill sergeant will break his mothers apron strings off of him.
 
2012-08-31 09:50:07 AM  

nytmare: When I was arrested for eating a homeless guy the cop gave me a lead metal and pinned it in my chest.


Well yeah, but that's because you used a crazy straw. Really showed commitment.
 
2012-08-31 09:50:56 AM  

ongbok: They run background checks


At a minimum he will be on probation because of this. That will be the first thing they will see when they run him through NCIC which is probably the very first check they do.
 
2012-08-31 09:52:34 AM  

JackieRabbit: I think he can kiss that enlistment in the USAF goodbye. Just playing. Yeah, right, mom. He doesn't masturbate either.


Actually, depending on what they were bringing him in for, it just might.

They frown upon stuff like that from the FNGs who will be exposed to the more interesting stuff.
 
2012-08-31 09:54:18 AM  

ongbok: They run background checks.


Oh really? Just like most employers do?

/it's been awhile, maybe these days it's not as difficult and expensive as it used to be.



JackieRabbit: The cops may never have known that the kid had enlisted. But they do now and they are bound by law to inform the USAF of the arrest.


So in other words, he could have easily enlisted with a conviction as long as no one said anything to the USAF.

/drops mic, walks out
 
2012-08-31 09:56:45 AM  

Rich Cream: Death_Poot: On the other hand, with our society the way it is, it sucks that he is now fscked for life if the prosecutor pursues a conviction. For sure, he wont get into the military

Yeah, because people with convictions never join the military.

[insert eyeroll here]


Ha. This. It might prevent him from ever becoming an officer, but enlisted? No problem.

CSB: I knew a guy who was denied OCS because he punched a guy trying to break up a bar fight. The guy turned out to be a fireman, and my friend ended up getting charged with assaulting an officer. Didn't hurt his enlistment, though.
/CSB
 
2012-08-31 09:57:08 AM  

Rich Cream: JackieRabbit: Rich Cream: Death_Poot: On the other hand, with our society the way it is, it sucks that he is now fscked for life if the prosecutor pursues a conviction. For sure, he wont get into the military

Yeah, because people with convictions never join the military.

[insert eyeroll here]

It is true that in war time, the Army and the Marines will take applicants who have juvenile misdemeanor offenses on their records. They need bodies to stop bullets -- which is why we used to call an infantryman (91B) an 91-bullet stopper. But the USAF has higher enlistment standards. If the cops decide to prosecute this boy, the USAF will vacate his enlistment until the case is adjudicated. If he is convicted, he will become ineligible for enlistment.


If he admits to it on his enlistment form.



Seriously, I hope this is just a troll and you don't actually believe this.

The USAF is considered the pick of most services if you are gonna go (Unless your hell-bent on being a Marine, Sailor or Soldier), and as such, they pretty much get to pick and choose who they want in. And if you don't think they couldn't find a record of his arrest in a background check that I am sure they will conduct (As they did to me when I was going DEP, and I wasn't even going into a job requiring a security clearance), then you are really deluded.

And even assuming they didn't find it then, those things have a nasty habit of coming back to haunt you later on if you decide to change jobs and during a background check they then find it, because then they court martial you for fraudulent enlistment since you didn't put it on your initial paperwork, which potentially hangs you with a bad conduct discharge.

Best piece of advice I ever got from my recruiter: "If there is a record of it anywhere, it CAN be found".

/Mom really needs to let go. If Junior is old enough to fight, he's old enough to know better than to point any laser at anybody and he needs to take his punishment like an adult
//Ironic that the rule for lasers came about because of aircraft being lasered in flight and he's wanting to go Air Force
///Didn't make it myself, got hurt before Basic and they discharged me out of DEP
 
2012-08-31 09:59:23 AM  
Hmm. There's an appalling lack of witch-hunters calling for the cop's badge, in this thread. What are all you rational people doing on my Fark?

Just kidding. What this teenager did was dangerous and stupid, and he deserves to be prosecuted for it.
 
2012-08-31 10:00:41 AM  

JackieRabbit: Rich Cream: Death_Poot: On the other hand, with our society the way it is, it sucks that he is now fscked for life if the prosecutor pursues a conviction. For sure, he wont get into the military

Yeah, because people with convictions never join the military.

[insert eyeroll here]

It is true that in war time, the Army and the Marines will take applicants who have juvenile misdemeanor offenses on their records. They need bodies to stop bullets -- which is why we used to call an infantryman (91B) an 91-bullet stopper. But the USAF has higher enlistment standards. If the cops decide to prosecute this boy, the USAF will vacate his enlistment until the case is adjudicated. If he is convicted, he will become ineligible for enlistment.


It's a reckless driving charge. It will need to be adjudicated, but even if he's guilty, the Chair Force will still enlist him.
 
2012-08-31 10:03:28 AM  

CheekyMonkey: Hmm. There's an appalling lack of witch-hunters calling for the cop's badge, in this thread. What are all you rational people doing on my Fark?

Just kidding. What this teenager did was dangerous and stupid, and he deserves to be prosecuted for it.


Well, if there's one thing we hate more than cops, it's snowflakes who let their Mommy argue for them in the news.
 
2012-08-31 10:04:54 AM  

hutchkc: you are right, green lasers are more powerful.


Nope. Green lasers are more visible but 5mW is 5mW no matter what the color of the light is.
 
2012-08-31 10:09:32 AM  
d3ny4pswk2x1ig.cloudfront.net
What an 18 year old with a laser may look like.
 
2012-08-31 10:10:32 AM  

Rent Party: It's a reckless driving charge. It will need to be adjudicated, but even if he's guilty, the Chair Force will still enlist him


That's the driver, not the laser cat.
 
2012-08-31 10:10:45 AM  

Rent Party: JackieRabbit: Rich Cream: Death_Poot: On the other hand, with our society the way it is, it sucks that he is now fscked for life if the prosecutor pursues a conviction. For sure, he wont get into the military

Yeah, because people with convictions never join the military.

[insert eyeroll here]

It is true that in war time, the Army and the Marines will take applicants who have juvenile misdemeanor offenses on their records. They need bodies to stop bullets -- which is why we used to call an infantryman (91B) an 91-bullet stopper. But the USAF has higher enlistment standards. If the cops decide to prosecute this boy, the USAF will vacate his enlistment until the case is adjudicated. If he is convicted, he will become ineligible for enlistment.

It's a reckless driving charge. It will need to be adjudicated, but even if he's guilty, the Chair Force will still enlist him.


The friend driving was charged with reckless driving, the snowflake was charged with pointing a laser at a LEO. No clue if this is a misdemeanor or felony in Kentucky, in California it's a misdemeanor.

Anyhow, if he is found guilty and admits it to the Air Force, they MIGHT still take him, it all depends what his job was going to be, if they need a boost in enlistment figures, etc. One thing is for certain, whatever control he may have had in choosing what he wanted to do in the Air Force will be gone, as they will tell him that if he wants in, then he will take the job THEY want him to have and he can take it or leave it.
 
2012-08-31 10:12:41 AM  

ongbok:
They run background checks.

Something like this may make him ineligible for the Air Force, but he still will probable be able to get into the Navy or Army, and more than likely the Marines. But that is also depending on the charges.


Jesus. IT'S A RECKLESS DRIVING CHARGE. The Air Force is not some white castle of enlisted academic and moral Nirvana. Those guys are just as big of dumb asses as the other branches.

Even if this was on the kid's record it wouldn't stop him from enlisting.
 
2012-08-31 10:13:48 AM  
WellI guess I need to RTFA then.

/ Farging coffee.... Give it to me!
 
2012-08-31 10:14:40 AM  

Rent Party: ongbok:
They run background checks.

Something like this may make him ineligible for the Air Force, but he still will probable be able to get into the Navy or Army, and more than likely the Marines. But that is also depending on the charges.

Jesus. IT'S A RECKLESS DRIVING CHARGE. The Air Force is not some white castle of enlisted academic and moral Nirvana. Those guys are just as big of dumb asses as the other branches.

Even if this was on the kid's record it wouldn't stop him from enlisting.


Corey Miller, 18, who was arrested Thursday and charged with pointing a laser beam at a law enforcement officer.

In addition to charging Corey Miller, the Sheriff's Office charged the driver, Michael Norris, 18, of Staunton, with reckless driving
 
2012-08-31 10:15:09 AM  
Even if he does get to enlist this kid sounds too stupid to make it through any tech training. So he's either going to be a cook or security police.
 
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