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2012-08-31 08:25:23 AM
This article was extremely unhelpful, but from what I can tell, the sidewinder was inert and was basically a shell without explosives in it?

oh dear God, throw him in jail for life!
 
2012-08-31 08:26:56 AM
Stay off his lawn. Seriously.
 
2012-08-31 08:27:17 AM
"Right after I get done talking to my friend, here."
Points to empty chair.
 
2012-08-31 08:31:13 AM
wtf is possessing dangerous articles? I read from another article that a man was arrested for having a "threatening stance"


where the fark are all these crazy laws coming from?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-31 08:32:34 AM
If we ban heat seeking air to air missiles, then only criminals will have heat seeking air to air missiles.

What is the gang bangers start using jet aircraft?
 
2012-08-31 08:33:10 AM

ltdanman44: wtf is possessing dangerous articles? I read from another article that a man was arrested for having a "threatening stance"


where the fark are all these crazy laws coming from?


Not sure! You saying there's some kind of a god-damn country which in't the good ol' god-damn US of A?

Plebe.
 
2012-08-31 08:35:23 AM
Apparently Fast and Furious goes deeper than just arming cartels with weapons.
 
2012-08-31 08:37:39 AM

ArmyWarVet: Apparently Fast and Furious goes deeper than just arming cartels with weapons.


It also involves NOS, specifically big ones.
 
2012-08-31 08:38:33 AM

Chummer45: This article was extremely unhelpful, but from what I can tell, the sidewinder was inert and was basically a shell without explosives in it?

oh dear God, throw him in jail for life!


Yeah, basically.
 
2012-08-31 08:42:01 AM

probesport: ArmyWarVet: Apparently Fast and Furious goes deeper than just arming cartels with weapons.

It also involves NOS, specifically big ones.


NOS?
 
2012-08-31 08:48:49 AM

ArmyWarVet: NOS?


Nitrogen Oxides?
 
2012-08-31 08:50:38 AM
This model plane I bought for my 8-year-old son has replica missiles on it!

OH GOD, WHAT HAVE I DONE?
 
2012-08-31 08:51:17 AM
new old stock?

Nice pic, one can see the spinerons on the rear fins.
 
2012-08-31 08:54:32 AM
That WOULD be a really nice thing to poke around in, a lot of nifty tech and science goes into those babies. I would, however, very much prefer a completely inert version.

/don't think the neighbors would much appreciate exploding air-to-air munitions next door...
 
2012-08-31 08:58:20 AM
Meh. Sidewinders aren't that complicated. Any semi-competent electronics geek can build a similar guidance system. In fact, a guy named George Gassaway has been building them since the late 1980's, but instead of infrared sensors, he uses photocells, and it was originally installed into a scale model Sidewinder rocket. The idea is that you would launch it in the late morning-early afternoon, and it would be a "sun seeker". It works rather well.

Now, substitute IR-sensitive detectors for the visible light-sensitive photocells, and *BINGO*, a first-generation Sidewinder guidance system.

Also, if you tuned it to only be sensitive to a certain narrow frequency of light (visible or not), you could use a laser of that frequency to designate the target, and you'd essentially have a laser-guided missile.
 
2012-08-31 08:58:22 AM
You mean my goal of NNS (Neighborhood Nuclear Superiority) may not be considered legal ?
 
2012-08-31 08:59:38 AM
People have the cutest pet names for their penises.
 
2012-08-31 08:59:41 AM
Man, and I cant even get high-cap magazines in CA. Some folks have all the best toys.
 
2012-08-31 09:11:23 AM
They have a Department of DefenCe?
 
2012-08-31 09:24:31 AM

MountainClimber: You mean my goal of NNS (Neighborhood Nuclear Superiority) may not be considered legal ?


You don't need to go nuclear. Conventional man-portable artillery will guarantee superiority in all but the most rare instances:

i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-08-31 09:28:05 AM

elkraf: They have a Department of DefenCe?


Yes - I thought you realised that.
 
2012-08-31 09:28:39 AM

dittybopper: Meh. Sidewinders aren't that complicated. Any semi-competent electronics geek can build a similar guidance system. In fact, a guy named George Gassaway has been building them since the late 1980's, but instead of infrared sensors, he uses photocells, and it was originally installed into a scale model Sidewinder rocket. The idea is that you would launch it in the late morning-early afternoon, and it would be a "sun seeker". It works rather well.

Now, substitute IR-sensitive detectors for the visible light-sensitive photocells, and *BINGO*, a first-generation Sidewinder guidance system.

Also, if you tuned it to only be sensitive to a certain narrow frequency of light (visible or not), you could use a laser of that frequency to designate the target, and you'd essentially have a laser-guided missile.


BTW, here is a link to George Gassaway's page on sun guidance.
 
2012-08-31 09:33:16 AM
Slightly off topic. This summer I read the book Sidewinder by Ron Westrum. It's about the development of the weapon from cocktail napkin drawings to the success it is today. Easily one of the most interesting books I've read in a long time. There's no vampires or torrid sexual affairs so women need not apply.
 
2012-08-31 09:34:15 AM

ZurkisPhreek: That WOULD be a really nice thing to poke around in, a lot of nifty tech and science goes into those babies. I would, however, very much prefer a completely inert version.

/don't think the neighbors would much appreciate exploding air-to-air munitions next door...


You could probably build an AIM-9A (first version) in your garage.

The first version was built by a bunch of guys at China Lake who thought it was a neat idea. They didn't even have government funding for the first few years.
 
2012-08-31 09:44:32 AM
S'RIGHT! D'ACTIVATID! [clunk!]
i192.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-31 10:03:43 AM
the marxists @ the damn UN are wanting to disarm us so we will go to the fema death camps w/o fighting back, ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ!Mfers!!! is all that i have to say about it!
 
2012-08-31 10:07:20 AM
Minor unintentionally needed (by me) threadjack:

dittybopper: MountainClimber: You mean my goal of NNS (Neighborhood Nuclear Superiority) may not be considered legal ?

You don't need to go nuclear. Conventional man-portable artillery will guarantee superiority in all but the most rare instances:

[i46.tinypic.com image 640x480]


How could a fella contact you? I am looking for a black powder cannon... yours look awesome, home made or ??

End threadjack

carry on.
 
2012-08-31 10:09:45 AM

Chummer45: This article was extremely unhelpful, but from what I can tell, the sidewinder was inert and was basically a shell without explosives in it?


People won't know if it's inert or not if he goes around threatening them with it.
 
2012-08-31 10:11:31 AM

ZurkisPhreek: don't think the neighbors would much appreciate exploding air-to-air munitions next door...


I'm thinking about Texas: Knock on a door in the middle of the night and you could have a sidewinder missile coming through it...
 
2012-08-31 10:17:10 AM
FTFA: "said it had been advised by police that the incomplete and expended missile, and other inactive weapons, were recovered during the search."

So... a piece of junk someone found in the Outback after a live fire exercise? 

Everybody panic!!!!!
 
2012-08-31 10:23:15 AM

Chummer45: This article was extremely unhelpful, but from what I can tell, the sidewinder was inert and was basically a shell without explosives in it?

oh dear God, throw him in jail for life!


"Expended"--I think this was a training missile that had already been fired.
 
2012-08-31 10:34:13 AM

Click Click D'oh: FTFA: "said it had been advised by police that the incomplete and expended missile, and other inactive weapons, were recovered during the search."

So... a piece of junk someone found in the Outback after a live fire exercise? 

Everybody panic!!!!!


There is an old WWII era bombing range about 2 miles from the farmhouse where I grew up. When I was a kid I used to ride out there on my horse and pick up old shrapnel and smashed up dummy bombs. I had no idea I was such a hardened criminal!
 
2012-08-31 10:36:20 AM

MountainClimber: You mean my goal of NNS (Neighborhood Nuclear Superiority) may not be considered legal ?


It might not be legal, but it sure as hell keeps those farkers next door in their place! You may want to rethink your strategy, however. I'm no expert, but I'm not sure that you're going to be able to nuke your neighbors without suffering at least some collateral damage to your property.
 
2012-08-31 11:21:11 AM

wtrwlker: How could a fella contact you?


Right now I'm listening on 7.032 MHz for Morse signals. Call "CQ DITTY" at your preferred Morse code speed and I'll answer if you are within the northeast. If you are farther away, I can switch over to 20 meters (like 14.032 MHz).

I am looking for a black powder cannon... yours look awesome, home made or ??


I accidentally fell into that through a very odd set of circumstances: A mechanic friend who had a black powder revolver that needed to be rebuilt had accepted a couple of black powder mortars from a guy in exchange for having fixed his car. I had my personal gunsmith fix up the revolver in exchange for one of the mortars.

I don't know the provenance of my cannon beyond that.

If you are looking for resources on where to get them/how to make them, and how to shoot them, go here:

Blackpowder Mortar and Cannon board at Greybeard Outdoors
http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/index.php?board=88.0

Plenty of links to explore.
 
2012-08-31 12:28:08 PM

mod3072: Click Click D'oh: FTFA: "said it had been advised by police that the incomplete and expended missile, and other inactive weapons, were recovered during the search."

So... a piece of junk someone found in the Outback after a live fire exercise? 

Everybody panic!!!!!

There is an old WWII era bombing range about 2 miles from the farmhouse where I grew up. When I was a kid I used to ride out there on my horse and pick up old shrapnel and smashed up dummy bombs. I had no idea I was such a hardened criminal!


I worked at bombing ranges in CA/AZ back in the 80's. There were guys that would go onto the live range (Chocolate Mountains) to scrap metal. A father/son scrapper team decided a cluster bomblet was scrappable. Killed the son and blew the dads foot off.
 
2012-08-31 01:00:01 PM

Lord Soth: Man, and I cant even get high-cap magazines in CA. Some folks have dittybopper has all the best toys.

 

FTFY
 
2012-08-31 02:05:47 PM

Intoxoman: mod3072: Click Click D'oh: FTFA: "said it had been advised by police that the incomplete and expended missile, and other inactive weapons, were recovered during the search."

So... a piece of junk someone found in the Outback after a live fire exercise? 

Everybody panic!!!!!

There is an old WWII era bombing range about 2 miles from the farmhouse where I grew up. When I was a kid I used to ride out there on my horse and pick up old shrapnel and smashed up dummy bombs. I had no idea I was such a hardened criminal!

I worked at bombing ranges in CA/AZ back in the 80's. There were guys that would go onto the live range (Chocolate Mountains) to scrap metal. A father/son scrapper team decided a cluster bomblet was scrappable. Killed the son and blew the dads foot off.


There is a neighborhood here in San Diego (Tierrasanta) that was built atop a WWII Artillery range. Years ago a kid got blowed up real good with a mortar round. "In 1983 two 8-year-old Tierrasanta boys were killed after discovering unexploded ordnance in a canyon near their home.[3] The Navy performed surface clearance operations in 1984 and 1985. Between 1990 and 1995 the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers removed several tons of ordnance and debris under its FUDS (Formerly Used Defense Sites) program. The Corps continues to monitor the area."

Good times, good times
 
2012-08-31 02:46:35 PM

Intoxoman: mod3072: Click Click D'oh: FTFA: "said it had been advised by police that the incomplete and expended missile, and other inactive weapons, were recovered during the search."

So... a piece of junk someone found in the Outback after a live fire exercise? 

Everybody panic!!!!!

There is an old WWII era bombing range about 2 miles from the farmhouse where I grew up. When I was a kid I used to ride out there on my horse and pick up old shrapnel and smashed up dummy bombs. I had no idea I was such a hardened criminal!

I worked at bombing ranges in CA/AZ back in the 80's. There were guys that would go onto the live range (Chocolate Mountains) to scrap metal. A father/son scrapper team decided a cluster bomblet was scrappable. Killed the son and blew the dads foot off.


Where I was at, they hadn't used live munitions, just dummy bombs. Metal, bomb-shaped casing filled with ballast. That range was used back in the days when our bombing strategy was "drop a few thousand bombs in the general area of the target and hope like hell you hit something important". I'm not quite stupid enough to go fooling around with unexploded ordinance.
 
2012-08-31 05:13:09 PM

dittybopper: MountainClimber: You mean my goal of NNS (Neighborhood Nuclear Superiority) may not be considered legal ?

You don't need to go nuclear. Conventional man-portable artillery will guarantee superiority in all but the most rare instances:

[i46.tinypic.com image 640x480]


Potato cannon to the rescue! stat!
 
2012-08-31 05:21:59 PM

mod3072: Intoxoman: mod3072: Click Click D'oh: FTFA: "said it had been advised by police that the incomplete and expended missile, and other inactive weapons, were recovered during the search."

So... a piece of junk someone found in the Outback after a live fire exercise? 

Everybody panic!!!!!

There is an old WWII era bombing range about 2 miles from the farmhouse where I grew up. When I was a kid I used to ride out there on my horse and pick up old shrapnel and smashed up dummy bombs. I had no idea I was such a hardened criminal!

I worked at bombing ranges in CA/AZ back in the 80's. There were guys that would go onto the live range (Chocolate Mountains) to scrap metal. A father/son scrapper team decided a cluster bomblet was scrappable. Killed the son and blew the dads foot off.

Where I was at, they hadn't used live munitions, just dummy bombs. Metal, bomb-shaped casing filled with ballast. That range was used back in the days when our bombing strategy was "drop a few thousand bombs in the general area of the target and hope like hell you hit something important". I'm not quite stupid enough to go fooling around with unexploded ordinance.


My Uncle worked at the ordinance proving ground during and after the Korean war. His job was to make sure the 50cals fit the bullets right or viceversa (calibration). After he died we found about 100 inert 50cal calibration shells here and there in his house.
 
2012-08-31 05:31:22 PM

Strobeguy: dittybopper: MountainClimber: You mean my goal of NNS (Neighborhood Nuclear Superiority) may not be considered legal ?

You don't need to go nuclear. Conventional man-portable artillery will guarantee superiority in all but the most rare instances:

[i46.tinypic.com image 640x480]

Potato cannon to the rescue! stat!


Actually, that's a 3" bore black powder mortar. It will place a 1 lb projectile on target 300+ yards away. I use 15 ounce tin cans half-full of cement. You can see one in that picture. They 'shuttlecock', flying nose first, to present a consistent aerodynamic profile.
 
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