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		Alabama town has 130% voter turnout. It would have been 160%, but they caught several hundred people voting twice (gadsdentimes.com)		40
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Lumpmoose		2012-08-31 10:07:10 AM

7 votes:

EnviroDude: PC LOAD LETTER: EnviroDude: because voter fraud NEVER happens if you listen to the FARK liberals

They caught it. The laws work. You can chase the voter fraud that you say isn't caught like you chase invisible people in the sky for their approval.

They caught it this time. How many times isn't it caught. Presenting ID is an easy way to thwart fraud.

I have no problem with Voter ID in principle but the problem is I don't trust YOU. All of the recent voting overhauls have been partisan attempts orchestrated by ALEC to disenfranchise traditionally Democratic voting blocks. The GOP is so insane at this point in history that I don't trust their attempts to modernize the process. Maybe later when they're less demonstrably uncompromising. Voting is too important.

cmunic8r99		2012-08-31 09:33:05 AM

5 votes:

I_Am_Weasel: EnviroDude: because voter fraud NEVER happens if you listen to the FARK liberals

Yes. I'm sure that's the case here. I'm sure it couldn't possibly some election fraud shenanigans to offer of proof of widespread voter fraud. I mean, there is no possible way that 130% voter turnout could be the result of some sort of orchestrated effort. It was all done by individuals, acting of their own accord.

Or the headline is fiction:

Republicans reacted with statements calling for better election security after The Gadsden Times reported the number of voters registered in Uniontown equaled 130 percent of the town's 2010 population of 1,775. Nearly 81 percent of the town voted.

rumpelstiltskin		2012-08-31 09:26:49 AM

5 votes:

I'll bet some hillbilly county clerk divided by 3/5ths instead of multiplied.

Three Crooked Squirrels		2012-08-31 11:20:40 AM

4 votes:

FTFA: Most of its population is black and votes Democratic.

Ah. I see the problem here.

Lunaville		2012-08-31 11:25:08 AM

3 votes:

EnviroDude: because voter fraud NEVER happens if you listen to the FARK liberals

You didn't read the entire article. Allow me to summarize it for you: OMG! Black people are registering to vote! Run for your lives! Abandon the women and children! Every man for himself! Repeat: black people are registering to vote!

I've saved you some time and increased the efficiency of your day. You're welcome.

vpb		2012-08-31 11:22:17 AM

3 votes:

Headso: wow, never saw envirodude post more than once in a thread! disenfranchising people must be very important to him

November is looming.

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I_Am_Weasel		2012-08-31 08:50:10 AM

3 votes:

EnviroDude: because voter fraud NEVER happens if you listen to the FARK liberals

Yes. I'm sure that's the case here. I'm sure it couldn't possibly some election fraud shenanigans to offer of proof of widespread voter fraud. I mean, there is no possible way that 130% voter turnout could be the result of some sort of orchestrated effort. It was all done by individuals, acting of their own accord.

Kibbler		2012-09-01 04:04:09 AM

2 votes:

The number that makes them angry isn't 130%. It's 81%. "Black people voting? Nobody believes they'd put their crack pipes down long enough to do that."

When you accept the premise that black voters are fraudulent by definition, 81% makes you hysterical.

PC LOAD LETTER		2012-08-31 11:58:09 AM

2 votes:

EnviroDude: Presenting ID is an easy way to thwart fraud.

Absentee ballots. Ooops.

Glenford		2012-08-31 11:54:59 AM

2 votes:

Headso: wow, never saw envirodude post more than once in a thread! disenfranchising people must be very important to him

Depends on if he remembers his alts.
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Calmamity		2012-08-31 10:52:51 AM

2 votes:

EnviroDude: They caught it this time. How many times isn't it caught. Presenting ID is an easy way to thwart fraud.

They didn't catch sh*t. It's all explained in the post below yours. Go put on dry pants, ya big baby.

Mentat		2012-08-31 10:12:52 AM

2 votes:

How convenient that when the federal courts kill two Republican voter id laws that suddenly a "massive" voter fraud surge (in Alabama of all places) suddenly occurs.

EnviroDude		2012-08-31 08:43:45 AM

2 votes:

because voter fraud NEVER happens if you listen to the FARK liberals

cc_rider		2012-09-01 12:08:28 AM

1 votes:

You're goddamn right there has been voter fraud going on in AL, subby, as well as judicial fraud:

Link

The Alabama Republicans, with a little help from their pal Karl Rove have ruined the lives and careers of two men, one a former governor and are sending Don Siegleman back to prison for over 6 years, a story which got buried under the Olympics and election coverage. Anyone who cares about the integrity of our juridical and electoral systems should take a look at the articles linked to in here. It really is sickening and scary, considering we have an election coming up. Link

Is there corruption in Alabama politics? Absolutely Everyone involved in the JeffCo sewer debacle deserves to rot in jail, but the prosecution of Gov. Siegleman, is extremely troubling to say the least. And the people crying "vote fraud!" ahead of the investigation deserve a swift kick in the nads. Especially Artur Davis.

bootman		2012-08-31 05:14:17 PM

1 votes:

JustGetItRight: bootman: Everyone is doing it? Bullshiat. There is nothing that GOP Atty. Gens. would love more than to prosecute people for vote fraud.

Go to those counties and you'll change your mind.

Here's an example. In Ms. Tinker's case, the circuit judge assigned the case (Marvin Wiggins) was her BROTHER. He squashed subpoenas and search warrants and even refused to recuse himself from the case until removed by order of the state supreme court.

Link

Here's a story from back in 2008. You''ll note that the reports of fraud came from federal observers.

It is every bit as rampant as I described because everyone from the local mayors to the county sheriffs and circuit judges are in on the game. An outsider has no chance.

A Republican prosecutor trying to do something about it has no chance. The cases are tried before judges that are in the club and he will be branded a racist for even trying.

Again, I call bullshiat. If the GOP was really concerned about in person voter fraud they would not be exclusively implementing effectively racist fixes that just happen to benefit themselves.

DubyaHater		2012-08-31 12:52:36 PM

1 votes:

Black people voting frightens me. I commend the author for misrepresenting the data, insinuating voter fraud, the pointing out the population is mostly black and votes democratic. This is a national tragedy.

jso2897		2012-08-31 12:51:49 PM

1 votes:

bootman: Registration fraud is almost entirely the result of people being paid per registration. Outfits that collect registrations are required to submit all forms. If someone draws wieners and wipes their arse with the form by law the form must still be submitted to the state.

Vote fraud is like counterfeiting pennies. It costs a campaign more to get votes via fraud (make the pennies) than to buy ads (not spending money on making pennies) and the penalties make it just stupid.

Jim Crow laws were effectively racist.
Voter ID laws are effectively racist.

/That about cover it?

Yup. There is a coalition in this country that wants to re-fight the sixties.
I'm not sure why they think they can win now, when they lost when the numbers favored them far more.

bootman		2012-08-31 12:49:09 PM

1 votes:

Registration fraud is almost entirely the result of people being paid per registration. Outfits that collect registrations are required to submit all forms. If someone draws wieners and wipes their arse with the form by law the form must still be submitted to the state.

Vote fraud is like counterfeiting pennies. It costs a campaign more to get votes via fraud (make the pennies) than to buy ads (not spending money on making pennies) and the penalties make it just stupid.

Jim Crow laws were effectively racist.
Voter ID laws are effectively racist.

/That about cover it?

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus		2012-08-31 12:40:41 PM

1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: EnviroDude: because voter fraud NEVER happens if you listen to the FARK liberals

done in one.
came here to hear the rationalizations.
fun to watch.
keep spinning!

But you are completely wrong and the article and thread prove that. How is that fun for you?

PC LOAD LETTER		2012-08-31 12:38:58 PM

1 votes:

Graffito		2012-08-31 12:23:59 PM

1 votes:

Ennuipoet: Would this even be a story if the town were predominately white and Republican? I ask merely for information.

If it were a white town the 81% turnout would be proof of the high degree of patriotic among that demographic.

CodeRedEd		2012-08-31 12:16:35 PM

1 votes:

cmunic8r99: I_Am_Weasel: EnviroDude: because voter fraud NEVER happens if you listen to the FARK liberals

Yes. I'm sure that's the case here. I'm sure it couldn't possibly some election fraud shenanigans to offer of proof of widespread voter fraud. I mean, there is no possible way that 130% voter turnout could be the result of some sort of orchestrated effort. It was all done by individuals, acting of their own accord.

Or the headline is fiction:

Republicans reacted with statements calling for better election security after The Gadsden Times reported the number of voters registered in Uniontown equaled 130 percent of the town's 2010 population of 1,775. Nearly 81 percent of the town voted.

Maybe Gadsden is a magical town where 17 year olds get to stay 17 forever and there's never any new residents moving into town after the census is taken.

CodeRedEd		2012-08-31 12:09:26 PM

1 votes:

USA Prime Credit Peggy		2012-08-31 12:08:00 PM

1 votes:

aug3: Uniontown had 1,140 people over the minimum voting age of 18. Tuesday, 1,431 votes were cast for mayor and almost the same number for city council positions, according to complete but unofficial results.

650 absentee ballots for the election
that smells fishy

Why? I have voted by absentee my entire life, and I don't know why anyone wouldn't.

varmitydog		2012-08-31 12:01:48 PM

1 votes:

rumpelstiltskin I'll bet some hillbilly county clerk divided by 3/5ths instead of multiplied.

www.uniontownal.org

Uniontown City election manager Alfreda Washington

Aye, she looks like a real grit redneck alright.
But you aren't wrong about her not doing her job properly. From another article with more information: Perry County Board of Registrars chairwoman Lucy Kynard said that 279 of the town's registered voters were "removable" due to being dead or having been convicted of felonies.

That would be the "hillbilly county clerk" catching this woman attempting to let dead people vote, just in case you aren't smart enough to follow that.

jso2897		2012-08-31 11:49:08 AM

1 votes:

eraser8: * There's a mass shooting.

Republican response: No more gun control laws! Just enforce the laws already on the books. In fact, let's make it easier to get guns!

* There's a suspiciously convenient case in which the vote totals seems unusual.

Republican response: More vote control laws! The ones already on the books aren't working. Even though they caught the "problem." In fact, let's make it harder to vote!

Well Republicans aren't afraid of guns (in white hands) - they are afraid of the voters.

HotWingConspiracy		2012-08-31 11:43:38 AM

1 votes:

meat0918: Call me crazy, but the Republicans in Alabama want to restrict voting rights by requiring photo id, and low and behold, a town in a heavily Democratic voting area shows up some inconsistencies.

I'll be damned, but that's suspicious.

It couldn't possibly be more transparent.

ongbok		2012-08-31 11:39:22 AM

1 votes:

So what I got from this article is no proof of voter fraud = voter fraud.

Philip Francis Queeg		2012-08-31 11:37:27 AM

1 votes:

Three Crooked Squirrels: FTFA: Most of its population is black and votes Democratic.

Ah. I see the problem here.

The same problem Alabama has been fighting since 1865.

DROxINxTHExWIND		2012-08-31 11:33:39 AM

1 votes:

Awwwwwww shiat! Voter fraud!

I said, VOTER FRAUD!!!!

You know what that means:

House Speaker Mike Hubbard, R-Auburn, said the numbers dramatize why the Department of Justice should approve Alabama's photo voter identification law in time for the 2014 elections.

Yeah. I know, champ. I know.

max_pooper		2012-08-31 11:31:40 AM

1 votes:

mainstreet62: rumpelstiltskin: I'll bet some hillbilly county clerk divided by 3/5ths instead of multiplied.

Excellent. +1

Make that 2

mainstreet62		2012-08-31 11:29:04 AM

1 votes:

rumpelstiltskin: I'll bet some hillbilly county clerk divided by 3/5ths instead of multiplied.

Excellent. +1

jso2897		2012-08-31 11:28:13 AM

1 votes:

Ennuipoet: Would this even be a story if the town were predominately white and Republican? I ask merely for information.

No. There are few if any districts in the country where the number of voters on the rolls don't exceed the actual number of voters - for reasons explained in TFA.
This was selected because it is mostly black and Democratic, to get the maximum "Booga-Booga!" factor. At any rate, no illegal votes were cast, as is inevitably the case, and the righties need to quit whining for these unconstitutional laws. It makes them look like pussies who can't win without tilting the playing field.

Fart_Machine		2012-08-31 11:28:03 AM

1 votes:

cmunic8r99: I_Am_Weasel: EnviroDude: because voter fraud NEVER happens if you listen to the FARK liberals

Yes. I'm sure that's the case here. I'm sure it couldn't possibly some election fraud shenanigans to offer of proof of widespread voter fraud. I mean, there is no possible way that 130% voter turnout could be the result of some sort of orchestrated effort. It was all done by individuals, acting of their own accord.

Or the headline is fiction:

Republicans reacted with statements calling for better election security after The Gadsden Times reported the number of voters registered in Uniontown equaled 130 percent of the town's 2010 population of 1,775. Nearly 81 percent of the town voted.

Wow someone read the article. Let's see how much Derp about how IDs would have prevented this continues.

The Homer Tax		2012-08-31 11:26:03 AM

1 votes:

That was a four page article that didn't have one comment from a Democratic politician.

Headso		2012-08-31 11:03:38 AM

1 votes:

wow, never saw envirodude post more than once in a thread! disenfranchising people must be very important to him

Ennuipoet		2012-08-31 10:25:26 AM

1 votes:

Would this even be a story if the town were predominately white and Republican? I ask merely for information.

vpb		2012-08-31 10:11:37 AM

1 votes:

Lumpmoose: EnviroDude: PC LOAD LETTER: EnviroDude: because voter fraud NEVER happens if you listen to the FARK liberals

They caught it. The laws work. You can chase the voter fraud that you say isn't caught like you chase invisible people in the sky for their approval.

They caught it this time. How many times isn't it caught. Presenting ID is an easy way to thwart fraud.

I have no problem with Voter ID in principle but the problem is I don't trust YOU. All of the recent voting overhauls have been partisan attempts orchestrated by ALEC to disenfranchise traditionally Democratic voting blocks. The GOP is so insane at this point in history that I don't trust their attempts to modernize the process. Maybe later when they're less demonstrably uncompromising. Voting is too important.

Nonsense, they haven't all be orchestrated by ALEC, there are plenty of other right wing groups pushing disenfranchisement schemes.

CommieTaoist		2012-08-31 09:58:31 AM

1 votes:

Does anyone else find the term "Black Belt" as used in this context extremely racist?

And no, 130% did not vote, 81% did, the 130% is the number of registered voters in relation to the last census which has a habit of under counting minorities. The high voter turnout is suspicious which is why they're looking into it but let's all jump to conclusions!

PC LOAD LETTER		2012-08-31 09:38:56 AM

1 votes:

EnviroDude: because voter fraud NEVER happens if you listen to the FARK liberals

They caught it. The laws work. You can chase the voter fraud that you say isn't caught like you chase invisible people in the sky for their approval.

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