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(Belfast Telegraph)   Videocameras to be installed in Derry taxis to protect drivers from false rape allegations -- "A lot of drivers will not work at night because of fears of being attacked but the biggest fear is of being falsely accused of rape"   (belfasttelegraph.co.uk) divider line 140
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2012-08-31 05:22:48 AM  

GranoblasticMan: I'm offended by your implication that Derpy Hooves/Ditzy Doo is a rapist.


Actually in some fan fics.....er, I've said too much.

Suffice it to say, I made this face AT THE SUMMARY.

i25.photobucket.com

I'm not readin' nothin' with a synopsis like that.
 
2012-08-31 05:25:40 AM  

doglover: Actually in some fan fics.....er, I've said too much.

Suffice it to say, I made this face AT THE SUMMARY.


I was going to say, he's clearly never been on Tumblr.
 
2012-08-31 05:26:22 AM  

doglover: Oznog: any threat of consequences for false accusations would likely frighten away legitimate victims

I don't believe this. I think it's one of those things someone thought was true and everyone just rolled with it rather than doing any fact checking.

Are there studies that support this trope?


I think Oznog's statement is reasonable, but it's a question of balance.

I've always thought of it as a Type I (false negative) and Type II (false positive) error process.

Society puts an enormous effort on reducing false negatives, one of which is the woman who is scared to report.

But if you are not aware of Type II errors, then when you try to reduce Type I to 0, you inevitably push up Type II errors (false positives). So if you make it perfectly safe to report rape and never question a victim, you in fact incentivize the false reporting of rapes because doing so can give you such a power advantage in divorce cases and all sorts of stuff.

If you are aware of both Type I and Type II errors and acknowledge them, then you can design laws that reduce both kinds of errors.

The problem is all feminists that insist Type II errors are non-existent, or so few as to be ignorable, and downplay the seriousness of a false accusation, and then cast the Type I errors as HITLER.

Anyway, that is my theory and it is mine.
 
2012-08-31 05:30:47 AM  
I know a guy who lost a full ride to a top tier school because a girl he was dating's father found out they were boinking, and the girl cried rape to get out of being punished by her dad.

Rape and false rape accusations ruin lives. So men: stop raping. Women: stop lying about being raped.
 
2012-08-31 05:31:49 AM  

BronyMedic: doglover: Actually in some fan fics.....er, I've said too much.

Suffice it to say, I made this face AT THE SUMMARY.

I was going to say, he's clearly never been on Tumblr.


NOPE! I stick to the music (farking awesome by any standards) and SFW art. The rest can burn in hell for all I care.
 
2012-08-31 05:34:06 AM  

RoyBatty: are aware of both Type I and Type II errors and acknowledge them, then you can design laws that reduce both kinds of errors.


The problem is how you design these laws without minimizing or twice-victimizing those who are (to steal a phrase) "legitimately raped."
 
2012-08-31 05:37:09 AM  

Crazymuthafarker: Derry? Fark rape allegations, it's the goddamn clowns in drains ya gotta worry about.


Beat me to It....
 
2012-08-31 05:39:11 AM  

GranoblasticMan: RoyBatty: are aware of both Type I and Type II errors and acknowledge them, then you can design laws that reduce both kinds of errors.

The problem is how you design these laws without minimizing or twice-victimizing those who are (to steal a phrase) "legitimately raped."


That could be, but I think the revolution would be in having legislators and lobbying groups simply acknowledge both types of error without minimizing and dismissing one or the other.
 
2012-08-31 05:41:51 AM  

doglover: Oznog: any threat of consequences for false accusations would likely frighten away legitimate victims

I don't believe this. I think it's one of those things someone thought was true and everyone just rolled with it rather than doing any fact checking.

Are there studies that support this trope?


I don't have a problem believing that many "legitimate" rapes go unreported for a great number of reasons, fear of the system being one of them. The police do have to make somewhat of an inquisition about it, in great detail. They're going to ask for a great number of details about what you were wearing and in what position you were forced down in. They're going to ask for your panties and put them into evidence, and be given a gyno exam for legal reasons not medical, and your vagina will be documented in court. Many women have reported how personally difficult that was, and that logically follows. I don't care to engage in what % of rape victims find it easy vs hard.

So adding on a "well, we do have to warn you that if this starts to look more like you made the whole thing up, or you had sex and it wasn't as nonconsensual as you said initially, you might need your own lawyer because we'll put you away for 20 years. We do that. Remember that girl on CNN who said it was rape but didn't have any bruises? She's serving a 10 year sentence.... just letting you know that...", that's way over the top for a lot more victims, I think. No I can't prove what % and in no way feel any obligation to provide such a figure.
 
2012-08-31 05:42:12 AM  

RoyBatty: That could be, but I think the revolution would be in having legislators and lobbying groups simply acknowledge both types of error without minimizing and dismissing one or the other.


You know, after I typed my comment, I realized something: a rape victim, no matter who they are, will require some kind of therapy. Perhaps requiring a professional, licensed therapist to vouch for them might help reduce the number of "false positives?" Just a thought.
 
2012-08-31 05:42:42 AM  

BronyMedic: doglover: Rape is one of those crimes you don't have to prove. An attack you can fight off. A murder scene will have evidence pointing to the killer. But rape? All you need is someone to point a finger and it's guilty until the allegations are publicly recanted. Even then...

If you've ever been through a false allegation, it can wreck your life completely - if not professionally, but psychologically. And it's very, VERY easy for people to believe what they want, rather than the actual facts of the event, when it's a he-said, she-said event. (In my case, 18 and fresh out of high school with no history of a criminal record or violence, the girl I lost my virginity to. The only thing that saved me was getting the girl recorded calling my parents, offering to drop the charge if they paid her two grand, AND her mother coming out and telling investigators she had done this before where she lived in Michigan.)

I fully support this, to be honest, now that the technology is mature and cheap. At the private service I part time for, all of our drive-cams have a clear shot at the back patient compartment, and can record events when the panic buttons are triggered. Even then, men need to know to remove themselves from certain situations if possible, and never be alone with someone who is unstable, manipulative, or someone who has actually been victimized.

The sad thing is that false rape allegations do occur as a way to get revenge on someone, and rarely are the accusers ever prosecuted for their crime, because of the fear of driving off people who really were raped from reporting their attack.


Did that biatch ever go to jail? she needed to be incarcerated, for the safety of society. no drug therapy, no counseling, just straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collect your extortion fee. you can't rehabilitate that. you can only contain it.
 
2012-08-31 05:47:02 AM  

GranoblasticMan: RoyBatty: That could be, but I think the revolution would be in having legislators and lobbying groups simply acknowledge both types of error without minimizing and dismissing one or the other.

You know, after I typed my comment, I realized something: a rape victim, no matter who they are, will require some kind of therapy. Perhaps requiring a professional, licensed therapist to vouch for them might help reduce the number of "false positives?" Just a thought.


And put professionals in the position of bein pressured to always vouch, or be condemned by activists? folks talk about abortionists being targeted..... the crazy crap that would occur if 'vouching' became the law of the land would truly be an eye-opener.

Thank you for trying to come up with a solution, though.
 
2012-08-31 05:48:04 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Did that biatch ever go to jail? she needed to be incarcerated, for the safety of society. no drug therapy, no counseling, just straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collect your extortion fee. you can't rehabilitate that. you can only contain it.


Once we took the information and recordings to the local prosecutor, he called the girl into the office and presented her with the evidence, and her mother's statement, and asked her for the truth of the matter. She was never charged with even extortion or blackmail because she "told the truth". Never got an apology. Terrifyingly enough, the other guy she did this too was still in prison in Michigan waiting for his appeal. That was in 2004.

She disappeared after that, and so did her mom and sister. Left town.

I found out years later, asking some of her ex-friends on facebook after she popped up in my "friends of friends" list, that she was sent away to Texas to some mental health place, and was living there with her family.

I still want to punch her in the face.
 
2012-08-31 05:50:59 AM  

kareninsf: Whatever happened to that poor victim that was raped by those duke lacross players?

/biatch ruined those poor guys lives


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Mangum

She beat her kid, set her boyfriends clothes on fire, and got into a fight with a cop.

She's awaiting trial now because she stabbed her boyfriend to death.
 
2012-08-31 05:53:44 AM  

BronyMedic: doglover: Actually in some fan fics.....er, I've said too much.

Suffice it to say, I made this face AT THE SUMMARY.

I was going to say, he's clearly never been on Tumblr.


Poor Dinky....
 
2012-08-31 05:53:52 AM  

Diogenes The Cynic: This kind of thing is becoming more common all the time. A lot of guys in college are getting consent videos from girls before sex, because all she has to do is change her mind the next day, and his arse is in jail.

/Waiting for prosecutors to start going after false rape accusers.


I used to have a lawyer and a notary public there to draw up a contract for her to sign. The notary just wanted a fee, but that shyster lawyer demanded 30%.
 
2012-08-31 05:54:11 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: And put professionals in the position of bein pressured to always vouch, or be condemned by activists? folks talk about abortionists being targeted..... the crazy crap that would occur if 'vouching' became the law of the land would truly be an eye-opener.

Thank you for trying to come up with a solution, though.


Ah, a good point. Still, there's got to be something... As others have stated, I really hate to minimize true rapes, a lot of which go unreported due to fear, shame, or other reasons; I'd like to see those asshole rapists convicted. But at the same time, I'd like to see the asshole false-accusers convicted.

It's a very sticky situation.

/Okay, that pun was sort-of intended
//I couldn't help myself
 
2012-08-31 05:59:29 AM  

BronyMedic: Theaetetus: Mind you, it's only rape where there's a loud group arguing that people bringing accusations should be judged guilty of making a false report unless they prove their innocence.

Really, tell us more about something that no one in this thread has said.


Letting just anyone waltz in and accuse people of RAPE without throwing the whole book and all the appendices at them? That doesn't sit well with me.
 
2012-08-31 06:02:49 AM  

GranoblasticMan: Perhaps requiring a professional, licensed therapist to vouch for them might help reduce the number of "false positives?" Just a thought.


That is already done sometimes, and not just in rape cases. It's known as a forensic psychology. Just like forensic [any other science] as expert testimony.

Usually, one has to be a specialist and peer recognized expert in such emotional trauma, to be called as an expert witness though. You don't just get any therapist with a B.S. degree out of the yellow pages.

/on a side note "therapist" is the-rapist.
 
2012-08-31 06:03:39 AM  

Theaetetus: BronyMedic: Theaetetus: Mind you, it's only rape where there's a loud group arguing that people bringing accusations should be judged guilty of making a false report unless they prove their innocence.

Really, tell us more about something that no one in this thread has said.

Letting just anyone waltz in and accuse people of RAPE without throwing the whole book and all the appendices at them? That doesn't sit well with me.


Yes. You're right. That's exactly what people mean when they point out that there are unscrupulous people out there who will take advantage of the system, and the culture in the United States to falsely accuse men of rape.

You win the prize, buddy.

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2012-08-31 06:06:11 AM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: GranoblasticMan: Perhaps requiring a professional, licensed therapist to vouch for them might help reduce the number of "false positives?" Just a thought.

That is already done sometimes, and not just in rape cases. It's known as a forensic psychology. Just like forensic [any other science] as expert testimony.

Usually, one has to be a specialist and peer recognized expert in such emotional trauma, to be called as an expert witness though. You don't just get any therapist with a B.S. degree out of the yellow pages.

/on a side note "therapist" is the-rapist.


youoffendmeyouoffendmyfamily.com
 
2012-08-31 06:08:01 AM  

Theaetetus: BronyMedic: Theaetetus: Mind you, it's only rape where there's a loud group arguing that people bringing accusations should be judged guilty of making a false report unless they prove their innocence.

Really, tell us more about something that no one in this thread has said.

Letting just anyone waltz in and accuse people of RAPE without throwing the whole book and all the appendices at them? That doesn't sit well with me.


I don't think anyone should be allowed to bear false witness for anything. I've been damaged by such an incident.

Maybe if you ever left your mom's basement, you'd bump into such awful people as well.
 
2012-08-31 06:12:13 AM  

BronyMedic: Theaetetus: BronyMedic: Theaetetus: Mind you, it's only rape where there's a loud group arguing that people bringing accusations should be judged guilty of making a false report unless they prove their innocence.

Really, tell us more about something that no one in this thread has said.

Letting just anyone waltz in and accuse people of RAPE without throwing the whole book and all the appendices at them? That doesn't sit well with me.

Yes. You're right. That's exactly what people mean when they point out that there are unscrupulous people out there who will take advantage of the system, and the culture in the United States to falsely accuse men of rape.

You win the prize, buddy.

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You should probably coordinate your posts with his, because every time you mist that that's not what he means, he goes ahead and reaffirms it.
 
2012-08-31 06:12:53 AM  
Insist, even
 
2012-08-31 06:12:53 AM  

Crazymuthafarker: Derry? Fark rape allegations, it's the goddamn clowns in drains ya gotta worry about.


Aaand we're done here.


/It was so bad It wasn't even given a name.
 
2012-08-31 06:15:18 AM  

Theaetetus: Insist, even


When you're falsely arrested for something, don't come cryin' to me.
 
2012-08-31 06:18:09 AM  

Theaetetus: You should probably coordinate your posts with his, because every time you mist that that's not what he means, he goes ahead and reaffirms it.


I'm speaking for myself. Other people are more than welcome to defend themselves, since you require it

people.virginia.edu

Since I've had my life impacted by someone making a false claim for the purposes of revenge and financial gain, I have more than a little dislike for people who would not only so callously ruin the life of someone else, but also hurt the chances of rape victims' claims being taken as legitimate.
 
2012-08-31 06:18:16 AM  

BronyMedic: Theaetetus: Mind you, it's only rape where there's a loud group arguing that people bringing accusations should be judged guilty of making a false report unless they prove their innocence.

Really, tell us more about something that no one in this thread has said.


Discarding the guilty/must prove innocence thing (which is reactant projection because in some conversations about rape in the US legal system, men say they feel like they're being treated as guilty until proven innocent) because it's obvious nonsense as the woman would only be suspected of false reporting after failing to present evidence AND appearing to have falsely reported in court, in addition to the mountainous case that would have to be put together against her, etc., it actually makes a lot of sense that rape alone might be a crime for which there's a loud group arguing against false accusations.

You know, because most people consider rape to be one of the worst types of crimes. It carries serious punishment for conviction and social/economic consequences even if the accused isn't convicted, so of course it's going to be very high on the list of things for which people do not want to be falsely accused. Other, less serious crimes don't carry the weight rape does, nor are they as well publicized, so people probably don't even consider them (or perhaps even know about them). And, unlike the one crime many people consider to be worse than it, rape is also one of the easiest to lie about (and get away with it) as, unlike murder, there isn't a dead body hanging around to at least prove someone committed the crime. And if someone frames another person for murder and authorities discover it, they will already, generally, try the person who framed the other for murder instead. You don't need a terrible outcry for something like murder when false accusations tend to be treated harshly anyway.

Sorry to respond to your post about it, BronyMedic. Theaetetus has been plonked for a long time for me, and I couldn't help but respond (which was probably a mistake). :)
 
2012-08-31 06:28:32 AM  

Theaetetus: Theaetetus:
Mind you, it's only rape where there's a loud group arguing that people bringing accusations should be judged guilty of making a false report unless they prove their innocence.

For example:
Oznog: Note that simply lacking evidence to prove a rape beyond a reasonable doubt does not, in any way, itself establish that the "victim" was lying. The legal standard to prove that is a different thing, it's VERY VERY high. The legal system really does have a bias in this area, because any threat of consequences for false accusations would likely frighten away legitimate victims who are believed to often be too scared to file charges in the first place.


Err... He is not stating (anywhere) nor insinuating anything advocating changing the burden of proof. Come on now... You can do better. Nobody should ever have to prove their innocence - except in misdemeanors of course. Instead, as always, the State must offer proof that you're guilty. Why are you inventing strawmen to fight? They're easy to knock down but they have no substance.
 
2012-08-31 06:38:06 AM  

steerforth: The woman-haters are so easy to troll.


I suspect you may be a rapist.
 
2012-08-31 06:38:26 AM  
Speaking of Derry, what the hell was Stephen King thinking with the underage sex train???
 
2012-08-31 06:41:18 AM  

Arcturus72: I still say the punishment for a false accusation should be as harsh as actually committing it...


An allegation proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be false? Absolutely.

And to those who think that excessive, ask yourselves the question: would you rather be raped once, or 1) jailed for years, 2) possibly get raped several times in jail, 3) lose your job, 4) lose your kids, 5) lose your marriage, 6) become almost completely unemployable, 7) exist as a social pariah.

Because that's what a false rape claim does to a man.

I'd rather get violently raped once. At least it's over quickly and you can start trying to heal.
 
2012-08-31 06:45:07 AM  

Resident Muslim: Speaking of Derry, what the hell was Stephen King thinking with the underage sex train???


Bigger question is how some busybody tried to get it classified as CP.

Bev is such a whore.

/i worry about her. i worry a lot.
 
2012-08-31 06:49:17 AM  

planeninefromouterspace: Hopefully they install them in the cabs in Londonderry as well...


Hey a fellow NHer
 
2012-08-31 06:51:32 AM  

RoyBatty: The problem is all feminists that insist Type II errors are non-existent, or so few as to be ignorable, and downplay the seriousness of a false accusation, and then cast the Type I errors as HITLER.


That's all a pretty good summary.

Aside from the nuances of the legal proceedings required, I think it would help a lot if people in general, and "community activists" in specific, would self regulate just a bit.

Unfortunately, some issues such as rape, hate crimes, etc, cause certain people who feel personally vested in the issue to instantaneously FLIP THE FARK OUT OF THEIR FREAKING MINDS. Excuse me, sorry. But that's just true. Some otherwise well intentioned people have a hair trigger for going from concerned activist to moonbat ultra-insanity on a moment's notice.

As a result, we end up with emotionally charged community marches and hitman contract flyers offering private rewards before charges are even filed, much less a guilty conviction.

The ensuing national media circus means that the defendant can't possibly get a fair trial regardless of how carefully and skillfully the law is laid down. This, I think, is at least half the problem.
 
2012-08-31 06:53:44 AM  

BronyMedic: Theaetetus: Mind you, it's only rape where there's a loud group arguing that people bringing accusations should be judged guilty of making a false report unless they prove their innocence.

Really, tell us more about something that no one in this thread has said.


I knew he'd be here with that bullshiat. His sort always likes to intimate that there exists nothing between allowing sociopaths to wield the state's power as a sword, and switching to a Saudi Arabian-style system in which an unproven rape claim is automatically considered to be false and subject to punishment.

No one. Advocates. That.

You could, I don't know... Maybe have the police investigate it like any other violent crime?

It's very difficult to prove rape. It's almost impossible to prove a false claim of rape. Consider that.

Oh, and under the modern definition of rape, I've been raped twice. Both times, I was passed out drunk, and a woman had sex with me while I was completely unconscious. In one of those cases, I was *very* lucky to not get AIDS. But I'm a guy, so no foul, I guess.
 
2012-08-31 06:53:49 AM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: RoyBatty: The problem is all feminists that insist Type II errors are non-existent, or so few as to be ignorable, and downplay the seriousness of a false accusation, and then cast the Type I errors as HITLER.

That's all a pretty good summary.

Aside from the nuances of the legal proceedings required, I think it would help a lot if people in general, and "community activists" in specific, would self regulate just a bit.

Unfortunately, some issues such as rape, hate crimes, etc, cause certain people who feel personally vested in the issue to instantaneously FLIP THE FARK OUT OF THEIR FREAKING MINDS. Excuse me, sorry. But that's just true. Some otherwise well intentioned people have a hair trigger for going from concerned activist to moonbat ultra-insanity on a moment's notice.

As a result, we end up with emotionally charged community marches and hitman contract flyers offering private rewards before charges are even filed, much less a guilty conviction.

The ensuing national media circus means that the defendant can't possibly get a fair trial regardless of how carefully and skillfully the law is laid down. This, I think, is at least half the problem.


biatches be crazy.
 
2012-08-31 06:56:40 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: GranoblasticMan: RoyBatty: That could be, but I think the revolution would be in having legislators and lobbying groups simply acknowledge both types of error without minimizing and dismissing one or the other.

You know, after I typed my comment, I realized something: a rape victim, no matter who they are, will require some kind of therapy. Perhaps requiring a professional, licensed therapist to vouch for them might help reduce the number of "false positives?" Just a thought.

And put professionals in the position of bein pressured to always vouch, or be condemned by activists? folks talk about abortionists being targeted..... the crazy crap that would occur if 'vouching' became the law of the land would truly be an eye-opener.

Thank you for trying to come up with a solution, though.


Nothing has to change. They need only to prosecute those that currently can be proven to have made false accusations - not because the person was found not-guilty but because the burden of proof is met to assure the court that the person committed the offense they're accused of.

That's just it - nothing HAS to change and it won't result in people failing to report the crime. Just follow the laws and violate the offenders. If the State can not prove (and it only has an obligation to investigate if there's a reason to believe the crime was committed - as in if it turns up on video that she made it up to get even or something) then it has no business wasting my tax dollars investigating. I don't think anyone is asking that all rape claims be subjected to extra scrutiny. If they are then they're idiots. Instead you have folk in here railing against this monster who doesn't exist (or seemingly understand how the justice system works - though one of them professes to be involved in the legal system, fortunately not in criminal matters from the looks of things) and claiming that the system needs to change.

The system doesn't need to change in as much as it needs to function as designed and intended. Nobody is claiming that all rape allegations need to result in the victim being investigated any more so than they already are. They're simply asking that those who commit a crime be prosecuted and, as you may or may not see, are then attacked by people who insist on making things up. If your premise is flawed and needs to be supported by logical fallacies then it may be time to recognize it and learn from it. That's up to you.

I don't want the ladies to go to jail simply because some guy used a technicality and got off on his rape charge. Nobody wants that. What we want is the State to take a look at the evidence and prosecute IF it turns out that the person lied about the crime and there is enough evidence to support it. If you wonder why they don't then you need only look in the mirror at your foolish frothing self who is allowed to vote, protest, and engage in other things and these are often elected positions.

That's it. That is all anyone is asking. We're not asking about it just for rape charges. We're not women hating nor are we pro-rape. We simply want there to be punitive damages against those who try to wield the arm of the law unjustly. It is almost funny, in a sort of agonizing way, that I'm certain you'll be just as frothy at the mouth about a police officer who beats up black people - and you rightfully should be. Yet when someone else effectively does the same thing (to use the law as a tool to commit unlawful acts) you're first in line to defend them.

What really galls me is that you're unable to see who the problem is... What really galls me is that the pendulum swings back and those aren't going to be happy times.

What we want is equality, what we want is justice, what we want is rational and logical arguments based on facts, what we want is honesty, and what we want is openness. I've never been accused of (legally) something I didn't do and very little out of the courts as well. I'm glad of that and hope I never have to go through it. I have had friends accused of many different things over the years and, frankly, most of them were guilty too. Hell, most of them were guilty of more than they were accused of. However, I have seen friends who were accused of shiat they didn't do and there's no justification for that. It hasn't ever been sexual in nature or the likes but it still pains them. Well, sleeping with another man's wife kind of crap so I guess that's sexual but not criminal AND sexual.

It isn't okay. It does need to be punished. It does happen often enough and with enough evidence to prosecute legally and, when it does, that's when it should be. Then and only then... That is what people are asking for, not this whole system changing silliness. Not some public memo saying (or policy written or unwritten) words to the effect that the cops are going to start investigating all rape claims as possible false allegations... No, we want them to do the same amount of work to verify the evidence as they would for an arson, an armed robbery, or other crime.

Is that too much to ask? Is that too complicated? Is there something wrong with that? Of course your idea of what it is people want is bad - you want it to be bad. It doesn't match reality and nobody is asking that - well, nobody should be and certainly should be promptly ignored and ridiculed if they are asking for stupid shiat like that. You're as bad as the Republicans who think that Obama is out to take their guns.
 
2012-08-31 07:34:05 AM  

Arcturus72: I still say the punishment for a false accusation should be as harsh as actually committing it...


Actually I think the punishment should be twice as harsh as much for false accusation.
 
2012-08-31 07:34:52 AM  
Did I miss a few dozen posts saying how this is a good idea for lots of other reasons, like if I leave a valuable in the cab and the driver claims I didn't, or maybe the driver gets jacked for his fares? Or maybe the driver decides to rape a female fare... IIRC at least one Farkette has survived this.

Safer for everyone if cabs have a tamper-proof record of what's been going on inside, and everyone knows it.

doglover:
And now for something completely different.

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I think I liked the Kingpin better when he didn't have a past.
 
2012-08-31 07:48:44 AM  

Nhojwolfe: Arcturus72: I still say the punishment for a false accusation should be as harsh as actually committing it...

Actually I think the punishment should be twice as harsh as much for false accusation.


False accusations should be punished but there is room for the accused to deny and punish the victim even more. What to do?
 
2012-08-31 08:03:36 AM  

Nhojwolfe: Arcturus72: I still say the punishment for a false accusation should be as harsh as actually committing it...

Actually I think the punishment should be twice as harsh as much for false accusation.


I think we need a registry for false rape accusers so innocent men can look up who to avoid in their neighborhood and college campus.

Also false rape accusers should probably have their testimony discounted in subsequent rape investigations since it is proven to be unreliable. Make sure the sex offender groups and rapists getting off on parole are well briefed on this.
 
2012-08-31 08:07:38 AM  
We're talking about false rape allegations, I want to know why the owner of this company isn't going ape shiat after finding out his employees are having sex on the job!

I understand cameras for protection against robbers, but shouldnt he be more like "if you have sex in your cab, youre on your own." Its a recipe for disaster! Plus its bad for business. Dark alley or not someone could stroll up on you and see that mess going on.

How are they going to explain their insistancy on having sex in the cab too? "Sorry baby we can't go to a hotel room. We haveta do it in the cab in case you decide later, when you sober up, that this was a bad idea and accuse me of rape."

That whole statement from the owner just reeks of "got the tissues, the lotion, and scotch. Ok, lets see who turned their meters on tonight!"

Blah.
 
2012-08-31 08:10:48 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Nhojwolfe: Arcturus72: I still say the punishment for a false accusation should be as harsh as actually committing it...

Actually I think the punishment should be twice as harsh as much for false accusation.

False accusations should be punished but there is room for the accused to deny and punish the victim even more. What to do?


Make rape shield laws apply to both parties.

That way, an innocent man wont get his name dragged through the mud.

Prosecute when the evidence is clear that the woman lied.
 
2012-08-31 08:17:17 AM  
I think the big problem with punishing false accusers is that they will refuse to admit they lied if they know they will get in trouble for it. They would rather continue to destroy someone else than face what they deserve.
 
2012-08-31 08:18:30 AM  
I'd think that drivers would like cameras to make sure they don't get robbed, or so that there is evidence if they do. The rape thing seems like kind of a long shot, but some jerk robbing a cab driver is pretty likely.
 
2012-08-31 08:19:13 AM  

doglover: And now for something completely different.


holy frijoles. Is that Kingpin?
 
2012-08-31 08:20:28 AM  

Crazymuthafarker: Derry? Fark rape allegations, it's the goddamn clowns in drains ya gotta worry about.


www.best-horror-movies.com


THIS. YES THIS


/hot
//came for Pennywise reference, leaving TERRIFIED
///they ALL float
 
2012-08-31 08:39:35 AM  
I know a cab driver in Louth who just went though this. I think a local traveller community is using ruse to extort money form prople
 
2012-08-31 08:49:20 AM  

biglew99: Crazymuthafarker: Derry? Fark rape allegations, it's the goddamn clowns in drains ya gotta worry about.

[www.best-horror-movies.com image 490x326]


THIS. YES THIS


/hot
//came for Pennywise reference, leaving TERRIFIED
///they ALL float


Don't forget to breathe that wonderful Derry air.

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Come back, anytime! And bring your friends!
 
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