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(Fox News)   The U.S. State Department tells employees to stop using common phrases such as "hold down the fort" and "rule of thumb" because they are culturally and racially insensitive   (foxnews.com) divider line 209
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2012-08-31 12:18:31 AM
And "rule of thumb," he wrote, can according to women's activists refer "to an antiquated law, whereby the width of a husband's thumb was the legal size of a switch or rod allowed to beat his wife."

Someone needs to learn how to use the Googles.
 
2012-08-31 12:21:23 AM
Actually that idiom is often mis-phrased.

The term is "hold in the fart", which has a completely different connotation.
 
2012-08-31 12:26:36 AM
He singled out another phrase, "Going Dutch," as a "negative stereotype portraying the Dutch as cheap."

Being cheap is just one of the many despicable attributes of the Dutch
 
2012-08-31 12:28:14 AM
Anybody who says "hold the fort" to you is nothing more than a lazy asshole who wants you to pick up their slack, and that's a documentable fact.
 
2012-08-31 12:32:13 AM
Origin of the phrase "Hold down the fort" (to be pedantic, it should've been "Hold down the castle")

Link
 
2012-08-31 12:34:15 AM

RoyBatty: Origin of the phrase "Hold down the fort" (to be pedantic, it should've been "Hold down the castle")

Link


No, I'm quite certain the phrase is "Hold in the fart". You are mistaken.
 
2012-08-31 12:53:37 AM
Look I know most of you think that this is some puerile fascination with fart jokes but its (intentionally not it's)not.

1972 -When I was three years old my father served in the military. Vietnam it was. I remember the day he left for that war. I was hiding behind the front door because my parents were arguing on the porch. Dad wanted to say goodbye and so he looked for me. I could hear the distant sound of helicopters.

"Listen son, I want you to know that I love you. You've got to look after your mom, now that I am off to war." Moisture glistened from his eyes. They were blue and protected by large gold framed glasses. He had a bunch of those rectangular medals on his dark olive suit.

"You know how when we play?" he continued. "How when we're in the living room and we build farts out of the couch cushions? Well you are going to have to build them by yourself from now on. I'll be with you in my heart if you do. From now on, you are authorized to build the farts but put the cushions away if your mother asks."

I nodded.


"Hold in the fart while I'm away"

I farkin' love my dad.

The helicopter was almost there, and people started running towards them. They wanted to catch them. It was the last American ride out of Saigon.
 
2012-08-31 01:05:26 AM

fusillade762: And "rule of thumb," he wrote, can according to women's activists refer "to an antiquated law, whereby the width of a husband's thumb was the legal size of a switch or rod allowed to beat his wife."

Someone needs to learn how to use the Googles.


Sometimes the old chestnuts just refuse to die, don't they? The irony is that the phrase is probably legitimately insensitive now because there is such a widespread misunderstanding amongst (usually young) feminists that this is actually the origin of the phrase.
 
2012-08-31 01:17:51 AM
Thank god they didn't have a tampon shooting dinosaur robot. That would have gone over like a lead balloon.

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2012-08-31 01:20:29 AM
Boy, I sure am glad that there's a guy being paid to warn people not to use phrases based on erroneous folk etymology, therefore spreading and reinforcing the bullshiat.

I wonder how much he gets paid...I hope the State Department isn't being nubianrdly.
 
2012-08-31 01:21:19 AM
HA!...I thought I remembered that one getting filter'd
 
2012-08-31 02:19:51 AM
rule of thumb

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2012-08-31 02:24:31 AM
I think sometims women ar kinda asking for it.
 
2012-08-31 02:24:55 AM
Fox News link...complaints about political correctness...

I smell butthurt.
 
2012-08-31 02:26:56 AM
Can't do much damage with that, can you? Shoulda been 'rule of wrist'
 
2012-08-31 02:27:25 AM
Rule of thumb?

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2012-08-31 02:27:47 AM

fusillade762: And "rule of thumb," he wrote, can according to women's activists refer "to an antiquated law, whereby the width of a husband's thumb was the legal size of a switch or rod allowed to beat his wife."

Someone needs to learn how to use the Googles.


The Googles, they do nothing.

The founding fathers warned us not to let special interest groups play a role in the federal government. Federalist Paper No. 10, by Madison.
 
2012-08-31 02:28:16 AM
They can't use those phrases? Honest Injun?
 
2012-08-31 02:29:02 AM

miltonbabbitt: Rule of thumb?

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She's the serial crusher
 
2012-08-31 02:30:35 AM

miltonbabbitt: Rule of thumb?

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I see you used the same google search I did. Only mine had Connor in the pic but gave me the stupid 'unfetchable' link, or whatever the hell that error is.
 
2012-08-31 02:31:03 AM
Who. Freaklng. Cares. You, the offenders, have countably infinite objectionable phrases you can use. After the bureaucrats ban, oh, say, countably infinite objectionable phases, you will STILL have another countably infinite phrases that do the job. And again, and again. Countably infinite times. Off to the next thread....
 
2012-08-31 02:31:42 AM
Nobody ever mentions the obvious "keep your cotton pickin' hands off..." when they list these sorts of offensive phrases. 

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2012-08-31 02:32:35 AM

Johnny Bananapeel: Nobody ever mentions the obvious "keep your cotton pickin' hands off..." when they list these sorts of offensive phrases. 

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how much more ofendded do you think blakc people can get?
 
2012-08-31 02:33:57 AM

miltonbabbitt: Rule of thumb?

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That's immediately where my brain went as well. One of the two greatest movies of all time. The other is Princess Bride.

"There was a fiiiiireeeee fiiiightttt!"
"Someone has bested a giant!"
 
2012-08-31 02:35:43 AM
Chief Diversity Officer John Robinson doesn't want folks to call a spade a spade. I wonder what the new terminology is for 'take the stick out of your ass'.
 
2012-08-31 02:36:14 AM

miltonbabbitt: Rule of thumb?

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Perhaps it should have been a rule of wrist?
 
2012-08-31 02:36:26 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Johnny Bananapeel: Nobody ever mentions the obvious "keep your cotton pickin' hands off..." when they list these sorts of offensive phrases. 

[i.imgur.com image 443x290]

how much more ofendded do you think blakc people can get?


"400 years worth of being treated like shiat" offended. But that's just an estimate.
 
2012-08-31 02:37:05 AM
1) I love that they refer to "vicious Native American intruders," In an article biatching about being PC.

2) I would much prefer and administration that cautions its employees on what they say over an administration that (albeit only initially) referred to an active military campaign in the Middle East as a Crusade.
 
2012-08-31 02:38:29 AM
Can they still use...

duquesnehunky.files.wordpress.com

/Hot link
 
2012-08-31 02:41:22 AM

Deman: miltonbabbitt: Rule of thumb?

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Perhaps it should have been a rule of wrist?


Came for the Boondocks.
 
2012-08-31 02:42:39 AM
Don't use sayings or phrases if you're writing things that might be viewed internationally because they're just not going to get it and wonder what the hell you're talking about. Some writer I know actually used "hold down the fort" in an article recently and some British people were asking what this even meant.
 
2012-08-31 02:45:10 AM

fusillade762: And "rule of thumb," he wrote, can according to women's activists refer "to an antiquated law, whereby the width of a husband's thumb was the legal size of a switch or rod allowed to beat his wife."

Someone needs to learn how to use the Googles.


This.

Also... I wonder if forts existed before or outside of the need to protect ones self from the Native Americans?

Robinson cited the cautionary tale of Nike rolling out a "Black and Tan" sneaker without realizing the phrase once referred to a group "that committed atrocities against Irish civilians." Nike later apologized.

And now refers to a drink made with a popular Irish beverage. Ferfuxake, people, grow a little skin. "Choose my word carefully" Mr. Robinson? Aight, I'm very carefully calling you a dumbass.
 
2012-08-31 02:45:15 AM
"Chief Diversity Officer John Robinson"
Chief? The Native American part of me finds that highly offensive.
 
2012-08-31 02:47:29 AM

ZeroPly: Who. Freaklng. Cares. You, the offenders, have countably infinite objectionable phrases you can use. After the bureaucrats ban, oh, say, countably infinite objectionable phases, you will STILL have another countably infinite phrases that do the job. And again, and again. Countably infinite times. Off to the next thread....


The offensive? There is a point at which it is not the fault of those using the words, but those hearing them. For instance, Los Angeles County government insisted that it's IT department stopped referring to multiple hard drives as "master" and "slave".
 
2012-08-31 02:47:40 AM
Really? I'm the first farker pedantic enough to point out it should be "hold the fort" not "hold down the fort"?

If I ask someone to "hold the fort", it's a pretty clear metaphor; there's a fort, I have to leave for a while, and I want them to stay and stop the Mongols getting in or whatever. I'm asking them to look after a specific location while I'm gone.

If I ask someone to "hold DOWN the fort"... Well that's meaningless. Why would you need to hold down a fort? Is it going to fly away? No. Some idiot just misheard the phrase one day, started using it wrong and other idiots copied him. Just stop it.
 
2012-08-31 02:49:20 AM
Well, allow me to accomodate!

www.city-data.com

And Shepherds we shall be For Thee my Lord, for Thee Power hath descended forth from Thy hand Our feet may swiftly carry out Thy commands. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee And teeming with souls shall it ever be. In Nomine Patri, Et Fili, Et Spiritus Sancti.
 
2012-08-31 02:50:40 AM
Whoever wrote that policy should be taken away in a Paddy Wagon.
 
2012-08-31 02:51:51 AM

Solid Muldoon: Whoever wrote that policy should be taken away in a Paddy Wagon.


That's a red herring.

Won't somebody think of the herring?
 
2012-08-31 02:53:15 AM
"No one really knows what these phrases mean. So, no one can really be offended by them. I must change that by educated people about these phrases so they can be properly offended, like they should."


Everybody just stop talking. You're just going to offend someone anyway.
 
2012-08-31 02:53:46 AM
I understand "long in the tooth" is considered an anti-dentite slogan.
 
2012-08-31 02:56:54 AM

Gunther: Really? I'm the first farker pedantic enough to point out it should be "hold the fort" not "hold down the fort"?

If I ask someone to "hold the fort", it's a pretty clear metaphor; there's a fort, I have to leave for a while, and I want them to stay and stop the Mongols getting in or whatever. I'm asking them to look after a specific location while I'm gone.

If I ask someone to "hold DOWN the fort"... Well that's meaningless. Why would you need to hold down a fort? Is it going to fly away? No. Some idiot just misheard the phrase one day, started using it wrong and other idiots copied him. Just stop it.


Depends on whether you're a limey or a yank.

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2012-08-31 02:57:45 AM
how about get bent
 
2012-08-31 02:59:35 AM
There will eventually be only 4, maybe 5 safe, usable words in the english language.

Here's hoping mongoloid is one of them.
 
2012-08-31 03:00:49 AM

robohobo: There will eventually be only 4, maybe 5 safe, usable words in the english language.

Here's hoping mongoloid is one of them.


Surprisingly, attractive and successful African American is still unacceptable in some circles.
 
2012-08-31 03:00:53 AM
www.fugly.com
 
2012-08-31 03:07:40 AM
Jackson did as well in South Carolina
Angry
Chicago
 
2012-08-31 03:09:41 AM
The State Department's job is to speak diplomatically. The origins of their words don't matter, what matters is what the people they're speaking to think the word means.

They're going overboard, yes. But it's their job to go overboard with precision in language.
 
2012-08-31 03:09:50 AM

timujin: Also... I wonder if forts existed before or outside of the need to protect ones self from the Native Americans?


I.m pretty sure the Romans had forts in Germania. It's probably something you want whenever you're settling somewhere where there's hostile natives.
 
2012-08-31 03:13:53 AM
Don't offend them towel-wearing camel-jockeys. It's like they got sand in their vagina all the time.
 
2012-08-31 03:14:58 AM
Nobody tell this guy about the sordid origins of most classic children's fairy tales.
 
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