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2012-08-30 05:07:43 PM
Nothing screams consumer excitement like Microsoft
 
2012-08-30 05:42:03 PM
Microsoft did something really cool in the early 90s. They created a desktop experience that you could be familiar with at home and also at work. This is what really set them apart from other OSs at the time. As a result consumers of home products demanded the same simplicity in the office. The CIOs who also had their brand new Compaq Pentium box also liked the fact that when they checked their sLotus Notes the interface was identical to what they got at home. Ultimately I feel this is what doomed the Netwares of the world and set MS firmly in place as the backoffice/frontoffice operating system.

Unfortunately for MS their interface doesn't translate well into mobile devices. The experience can't be the same on such a small platform. This is really where Apple in their simplicity started to take off.. Consumers enjoy simplicity because they're basically stupid. Remember the average IQ is 100.. The average IQ on Fark is probably 120 dipping down to 80 on the politics tab.
 
2012-08-30 06:53:21 PM
heh heh, he said "stable."

/Windows? Stable? Heh.
 
2012-08-30 07:13:25 PM

xynix: Unfortunately for MS their interface doesn't translate well into mobile devices. The experience can't be the same on such a small platform. This is really where Apple in their simplicity started to take off.. Consumers enjoy simplicity because they're basically stupid. Remember the average IQ is 100.. The average IQ on Fark is probably 120 dipping down to 80 on the politics tab.


While i don't have interest in a Windows Phone, I am hoping for the success of Surface. I'd love to throw iPads in my enterprise environment, but to put it simply, iPads are only good for checking email in the enterprise environment. Safari lacks support for Sharepoint and vice-versa. We can't just up and redesign corporate apps on iOS. We also need to run specialty canned software. We simply can't do all of that on an iPad. I'm hoping Surface turns out to be Windows on an iPad.
 
2012-08-30 07:32:16 PM
Ferragu believes that despite new developer opportunities presented by the coming Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 platforms, Microsoft's (MSFT) mobile ecosystem will never catch up with iOS or Android

Never is a long time. Gartner and IDC both project WP to pass iOS within 3 years. Time will tell, I guess.
 
2012-08-30 07:37:06 PM
If only Microsoft could build excitement around Windows. My Nokia Lumia is spectacular. Everything else feels so... ordinary.

To paraphrase Atticus Finch, "Don't use scrolling grids of non-interactive icons, Scout. That's common."
 
2012-08-30 07:37:16 PM
They advertised the windows phone on the local radio. He said "you can even edit excel spreadsheets." Who the hell wants to do that on a phone?
 
2012-08-30 07:44:40 PM
And a deep and stable antipathy from the early adopters who took a chance on Windows Phone 7 earlier this year, only to be left stranded when Microsoft announced (having known all along) that WP7 devices would get the merest of token updates when WP8 is released.

/a few more tiles on the start screen doesn't cut it
// how about global search and IE10?
 
2012-08-30 07:48:10 PM
Interesting results. I can attest to this. I was an early adopter to Windows Phone. I got one in January of 2011. At first I was showing it to everyone. All excited. Check this out! Look at what this feature does!
I got meh'd and ho-hum'd out of existence. No one cared.

And now, neither do I. As soon as an upgrade comes, I'm moving on to the latest Galaxy S. Bye bye Windows Phone. It will always be a day late and a dollar short. Last year people kept saying "oh just wait for the next update". And of course now, it's "just wait for Apollo". No, no thanks. It's undercooked and will always be late to the party. You want to attract people? Come out with a gigantic beast of a phone. Your OS runs fine on single core? No one cares. Run that shiat on 6 cores. Wow people. Give me a 1080 screen. HDMI out cable that comes in the box. They don't get it. They have this, arguably, great fluid OS, and then cripple it with no features, and shiatty hardware. Brilliant.

And the tiles are just marketing BS. There's no information on them, aside from a number indicating how many texts/missed calls/emails you have. Oh wow. I think the iPhone does that in like 75% less space. I can count the number of tiles I use that are "LIVE TILES" on one hand.
I've seen exactly two other WP's in the wild. One guy worked at a Lids (hat store), and we started chatting. He regretted getting it a great deal. You can't do sh*t all with it.

So, I get why this is. I really thought it was gonna be a contender, because there are certain things I do like about it, but it's clear that it'll just kinda sit there not doing much. It will never go away because Microsoft won't kill it. It's a major part of their system now. It just won't be widely adopted.
 
2012-08-30 07:50:11 PM

1000 Ways to Dye: If only Microsoft could build excitement around Windows. My Nokia Lumia is spectacular. Everything else feels so... ordinary.

To paraphrase Atticus Finch, "Don't use scrolling grids of non-interactive icons, Scout. That's common."


This made me laugh out loud for real.
 
2012-08-30 07:59:49 PM
Heh, I had Windows Phone all the way back in 2006. Running on a Cingular 8125. Imagine browsing on the EDGE network, no mobile versions of web sites and no apps. You could launch a web page, go out for dinner and a movie with your wife, and maybe it would have loaded by the time you got home.

Put me off of smartphones for years afterwards. When AT&T started giving away iPhone 3GS for free, then I finally went back. It's much better now.
 
2012-08-30 08:01:35 PM

Memes Ate My Balls: They advertised the windows phone on the local radio. He said "you can even edit excel spreadsheets." Who the hell wants to do that on a phone?


The sad thing is that there's some awesome things about their ecosystem, but they do a horrible job of promoting them.

Examples of a good campaigns:

"Windows Phone: Music; all of it, all the time, anywhere."
For only $9 a month, you have unlimited downloading & streaming of music & music videos on your computer, xbox and Windows Phone.

"Windows Phone: Never get lost."
On the Nokia phone, their GPS system has every single business, map and directions available, all the time - even if your network isn't.
Engadget's review "All in all, however, I can confidently say that Nokia Drive is the best purely offline navigational tool on the market, on any mobile platform."

"Windows Phone: Take gaming to the next level"

They could pump up their tight integration with Xbox games on the device and smartglass features for console gaming.

Instead, we get radio commercials to hype up editing Excel spreadsheets on the phone.
 
2012-08-30 08:07:29 PM

sure haven't: Interesting results. I can attest to this. I was an early adopter to Windows Phone. I got one in January of 2011. At first I was showing it to everyone. All excited. Check this out! Look at what this feature does!
I got meh'd and ho-hum'd out of existence. No one cared.

And now, neither do I. As soon as an upgrade comes, I'm moving on to the latest Galaxy S. Bye bye Windows Phone. It will always be a day late and a dollar short. Last year people kept saying "oh just wait for the next update". And of course now, it's "just wait for Apollo". No, no thanks. It's undercooked and will always be late to the party. You want to attract people? Come out with a gigantic beast of a phone. Your OS runs fine on single core? No one cares. Run that shiat on 6 cores. Wow people. Give me a 1080 screen. HDMI out cable that comes in the box. They don't get it. They have this, arguably, great fluid OS, and then cripple it with no features, and shiatty hardware. Brilliant.

And the tiles are just marketing BS. There's no information on them, aside from a number indicating how many texts/missed calls/emails you have. Oh wow. I think the iPhone does that in like 75% less space. I can count the number of tiles I use that are "LIVE TILES" on one hand.
I've seen exactly two other WP's in the wild. One guy worked at a Lids (hat store), and we started chatting. He regretted getting it a great deal. You can't do sh*t all with it.

So, I get why this is. I really thought it was gonna be a contender, because there are certain things I do like about it, but it's clear that it'll just kinda sit there not doing much. It will never go away because Microsoft won't kill it. It's a major part of their system now. It just won't be widely adopted.


This. Only I got mine in April. I'm already sick of waiting for certain apps to be made for the platform that already exist in Droid and iOS. But it seems those companies just don't give a rats ass about ever getting around to making a windows phone app. I love that the internet works like the internet on my desktop. And its mostly stable. But it has nothing else. And certainly doesn't have any apps.
 
2012-08-30 08:10:20 PM
Windows Phone 7 is a placeholder product Micro$oft couldn't give a crap about.

They are letting it all ride on 8.
 
2012-08-30 08:17:06 PM
"Our product is a failure because people don't want it."

That seems a little circular to me, because failure in this situation, is lack of interest.

"People don't want our product because they don't want out product."

You know, if I could try out the windows software on my existing phone, I might like it, otherwise using XBL on my phone isn't enough of a draw for me.
 
2012-08-30 08:24:18 PM
With helpful picture of a blue phone.
 
2012-08-30 08:24:54 PM

MurphyMurphy: Nothing screams consumer excitement excrement like Microsoft

 

/FTFY
 
2012-08-30 08:32:44 PM
Microsoft makes its billions selling software to people that literally have to have the product or really don't like the options. Nobody 'chooses' Microsoft - people just know that they are stuck with it and grudgingly buy it (well, everyone but Marine1, he has long since drowned in the Kool-aid).

However, in the mobile space nobody NEEDS Microsoft's software solution. There are better options available and nothing REQUIRES the consumer to use Microsoft mobile software or hardware. Bing failed for similar reasons and Microsoft's previous efforts in mobile died when better options were available first from RIM, later from Apple, and last from Android.

If the market is SMART, it will continue to avoid MS. They do not play nice with competitors when they have an advantage. Technically, Office is their last must-have item. The potential for mobile devices to completely replace the desktop/laptop PC has them terrified. And the market has known this for a long time. They make massive profits now, but their share prices have been flat since everyone knows that they are a cash cow about to go into decline.
 
2012-08-30 08:52:14 PM

xynix: Microsoft did something really cool in the early 90s. They created a desktop experience that you could be familiar with at home and also at work. This is what really set them apart from other OSs at the time. As a result consumers of home products demanded the same simplicity in the office. The CIOs who also had their brand new Compaq Pentium box also liked the fact that when they checked their sLotus Notes the interface was identical to what they got at home. Ultimately I feel this is what doomed the Netwares of the world and set MS firmly in place as the backoffice/frontoffice operating system.

Unfortunately for MS their interface doesn't translate well into mobile devices. The experience can't be the same on such a small platform. This is really where Apple in their simplicity started to take off.. Consumers enjoy simplicity because they're basically stupid. Remember the average IQ is 100.. The average IQ on Fark is probably 120 dipping down to 80 on the politics tab.


Heh, "enjoying simplicity because they're stupid"? I think what you meant is "do all the same things as Windows, but in a way that makes sense".

I remember the first time I used a Mac I was trying to get rid of an app and getting pissed because I could find an uninstaller. Then I was shown how to remove a program. You drag the icon to the garbage.

I was trying to over think it because Windows trains you to expect everything to be complicated as hell. Having an OS make sense doesn't mean it's users are stupid.
 
2012-08-30 09:03:33 PM

OriginalGamer: xynix: Microsoft did something really cool in the early 90s. They created a desktop experience that you could be familiar with at home and also at work. This is what really set them apart from other OSs at the time. As a result consumers of home products demanded the same simplicity in the office. The CIOs who also had their brand new Compaq Pentium box also liked the fact that when they checked their sLotus Notes the interface was identical to what they got at home. Ultimately I feel this is what doomed the Netwares of the world and set MS firmly in place as the backoffice/frontoffice operating system.

Unfortunately for MS their interface doesn't translate well into mobile devices. The experience can't be the same on such a small platform. This is really where Apple in their simplicity started to take off.. Consumers enjoy simplicity because they're basically stupid. Remember the average IQ is 100.. The average IQ on Fark is probably 120 dipping down to 80 on the politics tab.

Heh, "enjoying simplicity because they're stupid"? I think what you meant is "do all the same things as Windows, but in a way that makes sense".

I remember the first time I used a Mac I was trying to get rid of an app and getting pissed because I could find an uninstaller. Then I was shown how to remove a program. You drag the icon to the garbage.

I was trying to over think it because Windows trains you to expect everything to be complicated as hell. Having an OS make sense doesn't mean it's users are stupid.


A fan is "wizards," I see.
 
2012-08-30 09:08:00 PM

StoPPeRmobile: OriginalGamer: xynix: Microsoft did something really cool in the early 90s. They created a desktop experience that you could be familiar with at home and also at work. This is what really set them apart from other OSs at the time. As a result consumers of home products demanded the same simplicity in the office. The CIOs who also had their brand new Compaq Pentium box also liked the fact that when they checked their sLotus Notes the interface was identical to what they got at home. Ultimately I feel this is what doomed the Netwares of the world and set MS firmly in place as the backoffice/frontoffice operating system.

Unfortunately for MS their interface doesn't translate well into mobile devices. The experience can't be the same on such a small platform. This is really where Apple in their simplicity started to take off.. Consumers enjoy simplicity because they're basically stupid. Remember the average IQ is 100.. The average IQ on Fark is probably 120 dipping down to 80 on the politics tab.

Heh, "enjoying simplicity because they're stupid"? I think what you meant is "do all the same things as Windows, but in a way that makes sense".

I remember the first time I used a Mac I was trying to get rid of an app and getting pissed because I could find an uninstaller. Then I was shown how to remove a program. You drag the icon to the garbage.

I was trying to over think it because Windows trains you to expect everything to be complicated as hell. Having an OS make sense doesn't mean it's users are stupid.

A fan is "wizards," I see.


All your base are belong to us?
 
2012-08-30 09:36:20 PM
I work on Windows-based systems all day long.. I hardly want to deal with Windows on my phone... isn't my life crappy enough at work?

/You're thinking it too
//If not, you have dain bramage
 
2012-08-30 09:49:34 PM
I'm only slightly disappointed by not being able to upgrade to Windows Phone 8. There's still another 7.x coming out, and I pretty much have most of the apps that I want that I can think of.

When WP8 comes out, my existing apps will still work (I believe), which is pretty cool.

BTW, the Find My Phone features are really cool. I can remotely lock my phone and have it display a custom message on a bright red screen, as well as see it's current location.
 
2012-08-30 09:55:30 PM
Microsoft is going to run away with the tablet OS market over the next few years as tablets merge with laptops and become actual useful devices (as opposed to glorified smartphones with cutesy worthless apps). Book it. Done.
 
2012-08-30 10:00:52 PM

MrSteve007: Memes Ate My Balls: They advertised the windows phone on the local radio. He said "you can even edit excel spreadsheets." Who the hell wants to do that on a phone?

The sad thing is that there's some awesome things about their ecosystem, but they do a horrible job of promoting them.

Examples of a good campaigns:

"Windows Phone: Music; all of it, all the time, anywhere."
For only $9 a month, you have unlimited downloading & streaming of music & music videos on your computer, xbox and Windows Phone.

"Windows Phone: Never get lost."
On the Nokia phone, their GPS system has every single business, map and directions available, all the time - even if your network isn't.
Engadget's review "All in all, however, I can confidently say that Nokia Drive is the best purely offline navigational tool on the market, on any mobile platform."

"Windows Phone: Take gaming to the next level"
They could pump up their tight integration with Xbox games on the device and smartglass features for console gaming.

Instead, we get radio commercials to hype up editing Excel spreadsheets on the phone.


Why Microsoft is completely unable to market to consumers, I have no idea.
 
2012-08-30 10:11:22 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Microsoft is going to run away with the tablet OS market over the next few years as tablets merge with laptops and become actual useful devices (as opposed to glorified smartphones with cutesy worthless apps). Book it. Done.


They've been doing tablets for ten years, look up project origami.
They failed miserably.
It took Apple to make the tablet market exist, they did not do it by throwing everything into a device including the kitchen sink.
 
2012-08-30 10:11:29 PM
If the Xbox had been released with the word "Windows" appearing anywhere - sales would have been a fraction of what they really were. Windows Mobile has a nice user experience by all accounts... but people don't like associating their work computers with their personal phones. Microsoft needs to completely spin off its phone and tablet development and let it find its own identity. I bet it would give iOS and Android a run for their money if MS-Mobile had a completely fresh name and marketing strategy.
 
2012-08-30 10:13:25 PM

brianbankerus: /Windows? Stable? Heh.


Yes it is. Very much so.
 
2012-08-30 10:51:58 PM
it is funny that the people who bought windows 7 phones biatch about them having no apps, and then say they are techies, because windows 7 never had any apps, so why in the hell did you buy the phone?
 
2012-08-30 11:11:36 PM

theflatline: it is funny that the people who bought windows 7 phones biatch about them having no apps, and then say they are techies, because windows 7 never had any apps, so why in the hell did you buy the phone?


Well, I DID complain there were no apps, but I never said I was a techie. I bought the phone because my droids were getting old and were too slow to do anything. Plus, it felt like I had to restore them to factory every other month just to get them to stop force closing. With my current windows phone, im still running smooth as when I opened the box the first day, but as far as apps go, while I do have the essential stuff, im missing some apps that I feel should have been available by now. I actually really like my phone, and it does everything I want it to do. Plus, it has better games than the other two with the Xbox integration. But the repeated lack of effort by other companies to produce anything for it, and microsofts general "meh" about caring for windows mobile 7 just leaves me discouraged that this phone will never get updates, and I will never get my emulators like droid has, etc... But if I never want to evolve with the phone, it'll do for me. I just accept that my phone isn't something to show off.
 
2012-08-30 11:13:07 PM

weclock: That seems a little circular to me, because failure in this situation, is lack of interest.

"People don't want our product because they don't want our product."


No it isn't. It's "People don't want our product because they think it not interesting. People think our product is not interesting because our product is not interesting."
 
2012-08-30 11:14:02 PM

MrSteve007: Memes Ate My Balls: They advertised the windows phone on the local radio. He said "you can even edit excel spreadsheets." Who the hell wants to do that on a phone?

The sad thing is that there's some awesome things about their ecosystem, but they do a horrible job of promoting them.

Examples of a good campaigns:

"Windows Phone: Music; all of it, all the time, anywhere."
For only $9 a month, you have unlimited downloading & streaming of music & music videos on your computer, xbox and Windows Phone.

"Windows Phone: Never get lost."
On the Nokia phone, their GPS system has every single business, map and directions available, all the time - even if your network isn't.
Engadget's review "All in all, however, I can confidently say that Nokia Drive is the best purely offline navigational tool on the market, on any mobile platform."

"Windows Phone: Take gaming to the next level"
They could pump up their tight integration with Xbox games on the device and smartglass features for console gaming.

Instead, we get radio commercials to hype up editing Excel spreadsheets on the phone.


And thats why it should be the x-phone, not a winphone. I'd care more if it was part of my xbox ecosystem not my pc.
 
2012-08-30 11:33:11 PM

theflatline: it is funny that the people who bought windows 7 phones biatch about them having no apps, and then say they are techies, because windows 7 never had any apps, so why in the hell did you buy the phone?


WP7 has over 100,000 apps, and has grown faster than the Android Marketplace did in the same timeframe. But believe whatever you want to believe. There's an app for basically everything you want to do. It may not be the same app, but it's generally equally good.
 
2012-08-30 11:56:35 PM

xynix: Ultimately I feel this is what doomed the Netwares of the world and set MS firmly in place as the backoffice/frontoffice operating system.


Netware, specifically the versions of it before NT4 won (so 3.x & 4.x) were sods. Cantankerous beasts that were far too fussy for their own good; sure we all know the legends of the walled in Netware box that just wouldn't die but when it did explode it took a lot of loving. NT4 however you pushed the reset button and 9 times out of 10 it'd boot back up and start trundling again.

As this was the days of Workgroup (i.e. departmental servers) rather than a room full of the farkers, one of these machines anybody could 'maintain' and the other required an expensive spud.

That and Client32 was a disaster, seriously you installed different versions of it depending on what bugs you figured you could live with. Ohh and whilst NT4 defaulted to this wondrous thing called TCP/IP for networking Netware would steadfastly want IPX... and the TCP/IP drivers for the early versions were as abysmal as Client32.

I might rage about MS's predatory business practices but I won't say word one against NT4 killing Netware, in fact I'll be breaking out the Pom-Poms and doing a little happy dance.
 
2012-08-31 01:04:47 AM
Skype?

Sorry, I must not see the stupidity or something.
 
2012-08-31 01:17:34 AM

weclock: "Our product is a failure because people don't want it."

That seems a little circular to me, because failure in this situation, is lack of interest.

"People don't want our product because they don't want out product."

You know, if I could try out the windows software on my existing phone, I might like it, otherwise using XBL on my phone isn't enough of a draw for me.


I think the problem is better put as "People don't want our product because, when given choices of operating systems in an environment that's competitive, the negative view of our corporate brand can not be overcome by throwing more money at the product."

People don't want a Windows phone because it's a Windows phone. I guarantee you, Microsoft's solution to this problem is focus on building necessary features into Windows that will only work with Windows phone.
 
2012-08-31 01:19:00 AM

pdieten: Heh, I had Windows Phone all the way back in 2006. Running on a Cingular 8125. Imagine browsing on the EDGE network, no mobile versions of web sites and no apps. You could launch a web page, go out for dinner and a movie with your wife, and maybe it would have loaded by the time you got home.

Put me off of smartphones for years afterwards. When AT&T started giving away iPhone 3GS for free, then I finally went back. It's much better now.


I was in a similar boat, except I had 4 Windows smartphones between 2004 and 2010 -- Motorola MPx220, Cingular 2125 (HTC Faraday), Samsung Blackjack, and Samsung Jack. At the time of the MPx220 and 2125 (this is back in 2004-2007), they did what I wanted them to do, though that wasn't much since smartphones then weren't anything like smartphones today. I needed a bigger screen, so I went with the Blackjack; the larger screen suited the smartphone environment better, but there weren't really any apps, and the games sucked. Alas, this was still the time when a phone was primarily used for calling. I gave Windows Mobile one last chance with the Jack, but, by this time, I was growing tired of feeling like I was on the outside looking in, by which I mean the massive app and feature development (touch screens, etc.) that was occurring on other platforms was not going on with my Windows Mobile phone. So, I said "see ya" to Windows Mobile, and I picked up an HTC Thunderbolt (Android). I've been happy with it since.

It'd be difficult for me to ever go to a Windows Phone since I spent so much time with marginal Windows Mobile phones that I got jaded by the relatively crappy phones that were being left in the dust by iOS and Android. Yes, I know Windows Phone is drastically improved compared to the days of Windows Mobile, but I don't care. I'm familiar with Android, I've purchased quite a few apps, and I like the hardware. There's just no compelling reason to change...
 
2012-08-31 01:19:18 AM
Or maybe its just marketing? All the cool kids and beautiful people own iPhones.
 
2012-08-31 01:31:48 AM
We're going mobile. Microsoft isn't coming with us.
 
2012-08-31 02:09:01 AM

oren0: theflatline: it is funny that the people who bought windows 7 phones biatch about them having no apps, and then say they are techies, because windows 7 never had any apps, so why in the hell did you buy the phone?

WP7 has over 100,000 apps, and has grown faster than the Android Marketplace did in the same timeframe. But believe whatever you want to believe. There's an app for basically everything you want to do. It may not be the same app, but it's generally equally good.


There's quite a few key top apps missing right now that I need: HBO Go, Amazon MP3, Hulu, Tivo, State Farm Insurance, Watch ESPN, Comixology, Viper Remote Start. Until they get those make it or break it apps in the Marketplace, it's going to be a hard sell for a lot of customers. Also, some of the apps don't have the same functionality. For instance, the Flixster app for Windows Phone, despite having the best UI of all the versions of the app, is missing the Ultraviolet streaming available in the Android version.
 
2012-08-31 04:13:14 AM

Memes Ate My Balls: They advertised the windows phone on the local radio. He said "you can even edit excel spreadsheets." Who the hell wants to do that on a phone?


I heard those, and it was a real WTF moment. What a way to showcase how out-of-touch MS was.

/bizarre snooty-sounding voice too
 
2012-08-31 04:52:41 AM

xynix: Microsoft did something really cool in the early 90s.


I googled that but nothing. Or do you mean copy everybody elses' desktop OS?
 
2012-08-31 07:07:57 AM

1000 Ways to Dye: The sad thing is that there's some awesome things about their ecosystem, but they do a horrible job of promoting them.

Examples of a good campaigns:

"Windows Phone: Music; all of it, all the time, anywhere."
For only $9 a month, you have unlimited downloading & streaming of music & music videos on your computer, xbox and Windows Phone.

"Windows Phone: Never get lost."
On the Nokia phone, their GPS system has every single business, map and directions available, all the time - even if your network isn't.
Engadget's review "All in all, however, I can confidently say that Nokia Drive is the best purely offline navigational tool on the market, on any mobile platform."

"Windows Phone: Take gaming to the next level"
They could pump up their tight integration with Xbox games on the device and smartglass features for console gaming.

Instead, we get radio commercials to hype up editing Excel spreadsheets on the phone.

Why Microsoft is completely unable to market to consumers, I have no idea.


Honestly? Microsoft should hire you and do this campaign immediately. Not kidding. They'd increase sales like 15% in a quarter, gauranteed. That right there almost makes me want to stay with it.

/almost
 
2012-08-31 07:57:10 AM
There just isnt a place for windows phones... if I want wide open unrestricted OS with tons of software available for a reasonable price... I buy Android. If i want to sacrifice some money and control in exchange for an easy user experience and an even larger, more well put together software library, I choose iOS. Where does microsoft fit in?

They dont.

At the end of the day microsoft is just a day late and a dollar short... they will never overcome the software gap. The same reason people wont move away from Windows on PC... its where all the software is, and its already been made.

The only niche I see available to microsoft is rolling their phones into a hardcore mobile gaming platform... xbox mobile or something.
 
2012-08-31 08:19:19 AM

Bonkthat_Again: We can't just up and redesign corporate apps on iOS. We also need to run specialty canned software. We simply can't do all of that on an iPad.


Maybe you should be working to develop in open standards so people can choose their device and you're not locked to one specific thing, and not trying to create canned software that only works on one platform at a time and is a biatch to translate?
 
2012-08-31 09:59:42 AM
It also doesn't help that the release prior to WP7 was complete shiat

I'm still mad about my experience with windows mobile 6.1, two years later
 
2012-08-31 10:21:14 AM
Am I the only one who has little interest in apps? There's a few I like but most to me are just a way of getting around the fact that your phone is too small and your fingers too big to use the internet properly.

loonatic112358: It also doesn't help that the release prior to WP7 was complete shiat

I'm still mad about my experience with windows mobile 6.1, two years later


Yeah, it's pretty weird how they have boned 2-3 releases worth of early adopters, and then expect the slate to be wiped clean with WP8. They even had the audacity to run those ads decrying the competition as "beta testing", when that's precisely what they were doing. Meanwhile, a good chunk of Android 2.3 is being upgraded to 4.0 and even 4.1, and iOS has updated all phones back to 3GS with everything but Siri (IIRC).
 
2012-08-31 10:29:58 AM

Bacontastesgood: Am I the only one who has little interest in apps? There's a few I like but most to me are just a way of getting around the fact that your phone is too small and your fingers too big to use the internet properly.

loonatic112358: It also doesn't help that the release prior to WP7 was complete shiat

I'm still mad about my experience with windows mobile 6.1, two years later

Yeah, it's pretty weird how they have boned 2-3 releases worth of early adopters, and then expect the slate to be wiped clean with WP8. They even had the audacity to run those ads decrying the competition as "beta testing", when that's precisely what they were doing. Meanwhile, a good chunk of Android 2.3 is being upgraded to 4.0 and even 4.1, and iOS has updated all phones back to 3GS with everything but Siri (IIRC).


Spot on. Well put.
My wife's 3GS has the latest update.
 
2012-08-31 01:40:23 PM
No shiat Sherlock.
 
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