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(Yahoo)   The GOP is now calling for broader gun rights, including unlimited capacity for bullets within guns, because obviously when I look at the aftermath of this summer what I think is "we need guns with more bullets"   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 458
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2012-08-30 07:01:04 PM

Pokey.Clyde: tallguywithglasseson: There's no such thing as a hunting rifle.

Yes, there is.


I agree with the tallguy. A rifle is a rifle.
 
2012-08-30 07:02:27 PM
Magorn
PiffMan420: trotsky: Unlimited magazine sizes, lol. Most "huge capacity" magazines are utter junk.
Gang bangers and spree killers seem to like them a lot.
to say nothing of trigger-happy cops who, say wound nine people trying to take out one gunman. even cops don;t need 15 if they only had six they MIGHT start caring about an arcane art called "aiming" again


That is a problem with two things. First just the US approach to law enforment training, and also dumbing down the weapon instead of training people right.
 
2012-08-30 07:02:52 PM
i48.tinypic.com
 
2012-08-30 07:05:22 PM

Fark It: Magorn: what the 100-round clip used by the Aurora shoter (which thankfully jammed because the design is crap) may look like:
[betaco.com image 452x402]


and gun-enthusiasts? Just a note: you have a lot harder time arguing your guns aren't some sort of Phallic-substitute when you use magazines like that in them

First off, that's a magazine. Secondly, it's for a Glock chambered in 9mm, not an AR chambered in 5.56.

/you antis really need to educate yourselves, every time you post it's "a series of tubes..." all over again.


So I'm an "anti" now? Well this Anti has probably fired more rounds out of mare varieties of weapons than you have, and can likely take your favorite gun and out-shoot you with it. I have a "knack" for guns, and I greatly enjoy shooting them. However I also enjoy driving sports cars, but I don;t think a 240 MPH custom sports car should be street-legal either. Their potential for harm outweighs any marginal utilitarian value they may have. Same way with most guns. Long, guns and shotguns are useful tools with purposes other than killing other humans, 90%of handguns do not. Now that does not mean that handguns are therefore illegitimate and should be totally banned, but it DOES mean in my mind that they should be the most heavily regulated class of guns. As a grown-up and I've put my adolescent Dirty Harry and James Bond fantasies behind me and I know that as I have neither military nor police training my chances of A) actually being in a situation where I'd need a gun and B) being of any goddamn use to anyone in that situation are infintesmial .

The real world is a lot more like "the Wire" than Hollywood, when a bad guy wants to shoot you, he just walks up and pulls the trigger, he doesn't announce this fact, he doesn't give you warning or time to react, you just get got. Your best defense is situational awareness and staying the hell out of those situations, not a gun
 
2012-08-30 07:06:33 PM

mpirooz: Pokey.Clyde: tallguywithglasseson: There's no such thing as a hunting rifle.

Yes, there is.

I agree with the tallguy. A rifle is a rifle.


Thats like saying theres no such thing as a sledgehammer, a hammer is a hammer.

When you're using one to tap in penny nails, not so much.
 
2012-08-30 07:06:44 PM

Hobodeluxe:
that's why you can't legally buy fully automatics,frag grenades ,C-4,landmines and such.

there's no real self defense need to have a hundred round mag for a rifle.


Federal law says differently. Here's one of my belt-fed machineguns, that's actually a real, fully operational and entirely legal machinegun:

i135.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-30 07:07:19 PM

Magorn: The real world is a lot more like "the Wire" than Hollywood, when a bad guy wants to shoot you, he just walks up and pulls the trigger, he doesn't announce this fact, he doesn't give you warning or time to react, you just get got. Your best defense is situational awareness and staying the hell out of those situations, not a gun


I didn't read anything else you wrote, but this is indeed very wise.
 
2012-08-30 07:07:32 PM

tallguywithglasseson: No there isn't.


I'm not going to argue with you. If you are too dim to acknowledge that there is such a thing as a hunting rifle, you lack the level of intelligence to carry on a conversation with anyone.
 
2012-08-30 07:07:33 PM

mpirooz: I agree with the tallguy. A rifle is a rifle.


I tend to agree with this. While I use a Remington 700 (considered a "hunting rifle")in the deer blind I will use a Stag AR15 (considered to be an evil "assault rifle") on feral hogs.
 
2012-08-30 07:10:26 PM

Enemabag Jones: While some crazies like to take civilian 'assault rifles' and mod them to the hilt, please keep in mind that many of the incidents of people going postal included simple semi-auto pistols.

/For instance a mini-14 is probably just as dangerous as a semi-auto ak or an ar15, but they don't have the bling. I still am not convinced they are any more dangerous. Just more sexy for those that want to be glamorous and postal.


This is by far the deadliest weapon I've ever fired short of a Barrett:
www.toptenz.net

and nobody's ever dreamed of banning it because it doesn't look scary enough but it will drive nails at 300 yards with iron sights and if you manage to get your hands on the Pre-Korean War ammo for it you are firing a round that could and did sometimes take out 3-4 people wearing flak vests with a single shot. On this point I do agree with most anti-gun control folks: banning a weapon because of the way it looks rather than what it can do is stupid
 
2012-08-30 07:10:33 PM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: Here's one of my belt-fed machineguns, that's actually a real, fully operational and entirely legal machinegun


Heeeeeyyyyyy...

This weekend is our annual Opening weekend dove hunt and shootout in beautiful Funston, Texas. You are cordially invited.
 
2012-08-30 07:10:54 PM

way south: mpirooz: Pokey.Clyde: tallguywithglasseson: There's no such thing as a hunting rifle.

Yes, there is.

I agree with the tallguy. A rifle is a rifle.

Thats like saying theres no such thing as a sledgehammer, a hammer is a hammer.

When you're using one to tap in penny nails, not so much.


That's all just semantics. I'm a programmer so I look at it from an OOP perspective... and in the end a hunting rifle is just a rifle and it performs the same basic functions as any other rifle.

In the end, you're right. There is such a thing as a hunting rifle, but in the context of arguing for relative safety of guns, a rifle is a rifle. It's the base object that's being disputed, and a hunting rifle is simply abstracted.

/Too technical?
 
2012-08-30 07:11:37 PM

Magorn: This is by far the deadliest weapon I've ever fired short of a Barrett:


We will have at least one here this weekend. A beautiful rifle.
 
2012-08-30 07:14:33 PM

Dancin_In_Anson:

This weekend is our annual Opening weekend dove hunt and shootout in beautiful Funston, Texas. You are cordially invited.


Sounds like fun, but it's too far away, I'd never get an approved 5320.20 back in time, and while I don't have a problem with hunting (and I do love eating venison) I personally choose not to hunt.

Y'all have fun, and be safe! :D
 
2012-08-30 07:23:21 PM

Enemabag Jones: While some crazies like to take civilian 'assault rifles' and mod them to the hilt, please keep in mind that many of the incidents of people going postal included simple semi-auto pistols.

/For instance a mini-14 is probably just as dangerous as a semi-auto ak or an ar15, but they don't have the bling. I still am not convinced they are any more dangerous. Just more sexy for those that want to be glamorous and postal.


Anders Behring Breivik used a Ruger Mini-14 carbine and is still the current high score holder. Also it's my personal favorite gun to use in Max Payne 3's multiplayer.
 
2012-08-30 07:24:56 PM
So the GOP are trolling Obama and the Dems here and trying to goad them into taking the bait in an obvious effort to fire up their base with one of their traditional red meat issues.

Trying to turn their "Obama's coming to get yer guns" derp into a self fulfilling prophecy.

I really don't think Obama and the Dems are dumb enough to take the bait.
 
2012-08-30 07:30:21 PM

Pokey.Clyde: Eshman: So I'm clear, do you usually just wander into conversations and throw around insults without any real substance? You're not helping.

You know what? I refuse to get into a battle of wits with someone who is obviously unarmed.


So you're an arrogant asshole. Got it.

Time for you to sit down. Adults are talking.
 
2012-08-30 07:32:03 PM

what_now: You know what would stop a lot of gun violence?

More accessible mental health services.


Ha, no. That would mean having some billionaire be forced to pay $5 more in taxes just because you get the sniffles. Or you broke your leg. Or you get a sudden case of the "I'M GONNA KILL EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM AND YOU CANT STOP ME!!1"-sies.
 
2012-08-30 07:35:42 PM

the_geek: MithrandirBooga: Tell me, when's the last time someone took out a theatre of movie patrons using an RPG? I bet you think it happens all the time.

Count the number of deaths from guns with high capacity magazines and automatic weapons in the united states against pretty much any other death statistic. Seriously, I understand that there was something recently in the news so people are having an emotional response about it.. but let's get some actual data here to see what's going on.


All deaths, or just humans?

/I'll gladly throw in all of cats, skunks, dogs, armadillos, and deer that cars hit if you'll throw in all of the hunting kills for guns...
 
2012-08-30 07:39:18 PM
Cave Johnson approves.
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-30 07:42:27 PM

Enemabag Jones: Magorn
PiffMan420: trotsky: Unlimited magazine sizes, lol. Most "huge capacity" magazines are utter junk.
Gang bangers and spree killers seem to like them a lot.
to say nothing of trigger-happy cops who, say wound nine people trying to take out one gunman. even cops don;t need 15 if they only had six they MIGHT start caring about an arcane art called "aiming" again

That is a problem with two things. First just the US approach to law enforment training, and also dumbing down the weapon instead of training people right.


I said that all over the first thread (a few days ago) but did anyone pay any attention to me? No no, of course not, "Cassandra is a frantic maid"...
 
2012-08-30 07:46:46 PM

Sgt Otter: itsdan: make me some tea: (disclaimer: I'm not anti-gun, but I believe there should be limits on access to military-grade firearms for civilians)

The military wouldn't be particularly interested in most of the weapons people are seeking to ban.

The 82nd Airborne Division tested the 90-round "C-Mags" for their M4s and M16s, to basically try to turn an M4 into a super light-weight M249 SAW for mountain fighting in Afghanistan. They jammed so often that they abandoned the idea. That's what happened to the Aurora shooter. It jammed after only a fewer shots.

That piece of shiat giganto mag ironically saved lives.


Imagine how many lives would have been saved if the nutjob had had no access to firearms and ammo.

/Smidge.
//You gonna let this slide or whistle on the way down?
 
2012-08-30 07:47:13 PM

mpirooz: way south: mpirooz: Pokey.Clyde: tallguywithglasseson: There's no such thing as a hunting rifle.

Yes, there is.

I agree with the tallguy. A rifle is a rifle.

Thats like saying theres no such thing as a sledgehammer, a hammer is a hammer.

When you're using one to tap in penny nails, not so much.

That's all just semantics. I'm a programmer so I look at it from an OOP perspective... and in the end a hunting rifle is just a rifle and it performs the same basic functions as any other rifle.

In the end, you're right. There is such a thing as a hunting rifle, but in the context of arguing for relative safety of guns, a rifle is a rifle. It's the base object that's being disputed, and a hunting rifle is simply abstracted.

/Too technical?


No, I can agree with you there.
Legislatively, the differences are difficult to establish and not very meaningful.

On the flip side, The terminology does help to trip up bureaucrats.
Half the reason gun control is failing today has been its insistence on using the term "assault weapon". Now that people understand it, it's become a symbol of anti-gun ignorance rather than for scary guns.
Keeping the nomenclature is important because it allows you to put a hunting rifle alongside an assault rifle so the audience can realize they are the same thing.

Left to their own devices, the anti-gun ignoramus would show something like an m-249 and claim it represents all guns in circulation, when the vast majority look more like hi-points and Remington 700's.
 
2012-08-30 07:48:25 PM
Guns is the only thing the right has left. They are losing on the War on Women, the War on Gay People, the War on Drugs, etc.

Fine go ahead, stock up on ammo and clips and whatnot.

The rest of us will be busy cleaning up your messes.
 
2012-08-30 07:50:57 PM

clevershark: Serious question here -- why do so many of you feel that you need to carry a gun daily? Obviously I'm not talking if you're a cop or a soldier, but a civilian.


As a gun owner, I can't think of anything other than being afraid that drives people to carry. When I was in college I lived in one of the worst areas of a major city, and I never even considered carrying then. I don't carry, ever, because the one thing I find over and over again with people that do carry is they have irrational fears about bad shiat happening to or around them. They also seem to have a disconnect with reality as to how clearly they'll be able to think and react, and terrible overestimation of their shooting and situation assessment skills, leaving them with a completely unrealistic belief that the gun they carry can will help them stop a massacre some day. They also seem to not understand the legal implications of firing a weapon in public, and all the bad things that can happen as a result. Then throw in the fact that you pretty much can't do anything with the gun on you, as most private businesses and all government buildings have "no firearm" signs posted. You've basically got someone who's giving up their right to do what they want and go where they want because they are scared.
 
2012-08-30 07:53:35 PM
So who exactly does this appeal to again? Apart from the gun nuts who will vote solidly Republican anyway, how does this attract swing voters?
 
2012-08-30 07:55:39 PM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: Sounds like fun, but it's too far away, I'd never get an approved 5320.20 back in time, and while I don't have a problem with hunting (and I do love eating venison) I personally choose not to hunt.

Y'all have fun, and be safe! :D



A small sample of what has been brought before:

dancininanson.net 

We'll have some SKS and an AR or two this year. You never know what will be brought. And for those that don't want to hunt (I usually man the grill as I can hunt for two months) there willl be lots of bullshiat dished. It's a great weekend!
 
2012-08-30 07:59:48 PM

make me some tea: Okay I have a genuine question to ask the pro-gun folks around here: Why do you need these things?

(disclaimer: I'm not anti-gun, but I believe there should be limits on access to military-grade firearms for civilians)


Good question.

It has to do with two things, your thumbs and your time. Loading a magazine hurts your thumbs. You gotta kinda wiggle the bullet round this metal retaining part, and your thumb hits it, and it hurts because you have to press with a lot of force to get past that spring. There's no way around this. So, to load 30 rounds into a clip (take that semantics-nazis) takes a good minute, maybe 70 or 80 seconds. And that's if you hurry and hurt your thumbs.

The second is time. You don't get that much time at the range. Most places don't let you shoot a gun in your backyard (nazis!) so you have to go out to a range. Ranges cost a lot of money, and they usually have wait times. Where I'm at, the wait averages two hours.

At a range, you have "hot" times and "cold" times. During the hot times you can shoot, during the cold times you unload your gun, open your action, and you can reload and get your targets. But you're required to do a lot of other things during this time (step away from your gun, have the officer certify the actions open, sweeping your brass). In other words, you're going to be reloading during your hot times. And that means that you're missing out on what you paid and waited two hours for. Unless you have a high capacity magazine.

BTW: Just for some perspective, an average person can unload a 30 round clip in 60 seconds - and that is by shooting incredibly slow. (Ranges do not let you rapid fire).

High capacity magazines are just freaking nice for law abiding gun owners who do the responsible thing and shoot at ranges.
 
2012-08-30 08:03:45 PM
But surely, guys who rob dollar stores are an epidemic who need to be shot dead in their tracks.
 
2012-08-30 08:06:53 PM

clevershark: Serious question here -- why do so many of you feel that you need to carry a gun daily? Obviously I'm not talking if you're a cop or a soldier, but a civilian.


They have REALLY TINY dicks!
 
2012-08-30 08:18:17 PM
Seriously? this is just pointless pandering to the gun nut vote, who general vote Repub anyway.
 
2012-08-30 08:20:01 PM
Short not-so-css, followed by my opinion on gun ownership, fwiw:

I was. . . I don't want to say a victim, it's not the right word, but guys with guns came into my house and took my stuff. Label it as you will.

My (now ex-)husband and I didn't own a gun, had discussed it, but we both agreed that until we were properly trained not only in usage but ownership (proper maintenance, whole nine yards), we really had no right to keep one in our house or on our person. Every time I think about what happened and add a gun in our hands, I'm all but certain someone (and likely more than one, since there were three guys involved) would have ended up dead. The problem is, and why I'm convinced our decision was the right one, that I couldn't be certain whether it would have been the bad guys who would have died. As it was, everyone walked away. We might have been temporarily a bit poorer, and the psychological scars run real deep, but at least we're alive.

Yes, we have a "right" to gun ownership, but we also have the duty as citizens to exercise that right *responsibly*. Until that happens, you really shouldn't own a gun. And until the entire U.S. population is mature enough to look at themselves and go "You know, it's probably not the best idea for me to own this," then we need something to stand between the public and stupid people. Laws seem the best way to go.
 
2012-08-30 08:33:41 PM

Cinaed: But surely, guys who rob dollar stores point guns at store clerks are an epidemic who need to be shot dead in their tracks.


Some people would think so.
I take it you are in favor of protecting armed robbers?
 
2012-08-30 08:34:40 PM

grimlock1972: Seriously? this is just pointless pandering to the gun nut vote, who general vote Repub anyway.


They're Akin to get away from the topic of 'legitimate rape'.
 
2012-08-30 08:35:27 PM
I'm actually very curious who the NRA will endorse - Obama actually has a record of not pushing any new gun laws and Romney has a record (while he was governor of MA) of signing into law new gun restrictions.

Essentially, if they endorse Romney they are outing themselves without a doubt as a political organization and not a gun ownership organization.
 
2012-08-30 08:37:42 PM

Pokey.Clyde: I'm not going to argue with you. If you are too dim to acknowledge that there is such a thing as a hunting rifle, you lack the level of intelligence to carry on a conversation with anyone.


I'm being sarcastic, but I guess you're too dim to recognize it.
There are, however, 2 or 3 people who agreed with it. And they appear to be carrying on conversations with people despite their apparent lack of intelligence.
 
2012-08-30 08:42:16 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Blues_X: I think they were running more than sitting.

As opposed to returning fire.

Hobodeluxe: and also the capacity for mass casualties should also be limited

My high capacity magazines have never caused mass casualties.

Hobodeluxe: there's no real self defense need to have a hundred round mag for a rifle.

Some may disagree with you.


Can you ever be a farking a man and go further than one sentence in explaining your posts?

you have to be the biggest phony on this site. Yeah, your life turned out ok, and you took care of your sons and now fark everyone else

You are farking disgusting
 
2012-08-30 08:46:11 PM

Eshman: Time for you to sit down. Adults are talking.


Yes, we are. Too bad you can't join us.
 
2012-08-30 08:47:41 PM

tallguywithglasseson: There are, however, 2 or 3 people who agreed with it. And they appear to be carrying on conversations with people despite their apparent lack of intelligence.


Just because someone agrees with you, doesn't make you right.
 
2012-08-30 08:50:42 PM

Secret Master of All Flatulence: Hobodeluxe:
that's why you can't legally buy fully automatics,frag grenades ,C-4,landmines and such.

there's no real self defense need to have a hundred round mag for a rifle.

Federal law says differently. Here's one of my belt-fed machineguns, that's actually a real, fully operational and entirely legal machinegun:

[i135.photobucket.com image 600x800]


MG 34, nice. That must have cost a pretty penny.

Magorn: Fark It: Magorn: what the 100-round clip used by the Aurora shoter (which thankfully jammed because the design is crap) may look like:
[betaco.com image 452x402]


and gun-enthusiasts? Just a note: you have a lot harder time arguing your guns aren't some sort of Phallic-substitute when you use magazines like that in them

First off, that's a magazine. Secondly, it's for a Glock chambered in 9mm, not an AR chambered in 5.56.

/you antis really need to educate yourselves, every time you post it's "a series of tubes..." all over again.

So I'm an "anti" now? Well this Anti has probably fired more rounds out of mare varieties of weapons than you have, and can likely take your favorite gun and out-shoot you with it. I have a "knack" for guns, and I greatly enjoy shooting them. However I also enjoy driving sports cars, but I don;t think a 240 MPH custom sports car should be street-legal either. Their potential for harm outweighs any marginal utilitarian value they may have. Same way with most guns. Long, guns and shotguns are useful tools with purposes other than killing other humans, 90%of handguns do not. Now that does not mean that handguns are therefore illegitimate and should be totally banned, but it DOES mean in my mind that they should be the most heavily regulated class of guns. As a grown-up and I've put my adolescent Dirty Harry and James Bond fantasies behind me and I know that as I have neither military nor police training my chances of A) actually being in a situation where I'd need a gun and B) being of any goddamn use to anyone in that situation are infintesmial .

The real world is a lot more like "the Wire" than Hollywood, when a bad guy wants to shoot you, he just walks up and pulls the trigger, he doesn't announce this fact, he doesn't give you warning or time to react, you just get got. Your best defense is situational awareness and staying the hell out of those situations, not a gun


I don't want or need to carry a pistol outside. Nor do I have fantasies/fears about reenacting dirty harry. What is an issue is the guy off his meds that decides he wants a glass of orange juice and it's easier to break into the nearby occupied house instead of going to the store (real case btw, guy killed two people).
 
2012-08-30 08:57:14 PM

zarberg: I'm actually very curious who the NRA will endorse - Obama actually has a record of not pushing any new gun laws and Romney has a record (while he was governor of MA) of signing into law new gun restrictions.

Essentially, if they endorse Romney they are outing themselves without a doubt as a political organization and not a gun ownership organization.


The president is unlikely to pass a gun law or repeal any existing laws as things stand.
So the real question is if Obama (or Romney) will appoint liberal (or conservative) Judges to the supreme court.

...Because if the Judges that go up are unfavorable to the NRA's goals, the damage is going to last alot longer than the next presidency.
 
2012-08-30 09:00:08 PM
fark it, fine.

I'm pretty damned liberal and we honestly have bigger problems in this country than the bi-annual mass murder. Let the gun nuts have their belt fed surrogate penes.
 
2012-08-30 09:18:30 PM
The ultimate argument of "why".

www.humanrights.com
 
2012-08-30 09:18:43 PM

Monkeyhouse Zendo: fark it, fine.

I'm pretty damned liberal and we honestly have bigger problems in this country than the bi-annual mass murder. Let the gun nuts have their belt fed surrogate penes.


You seem to be awfully fixated on the penis.
 
2012-08-30 09:19:39 PM

OgreMagi: The ultimate argument of "why".

[www.humanrights.com image 850x715]


What the hell is a Congrefs?
 
2012-08-30 09:33:22 PM

Pokey.Clyde: Just because someone agrees with you, doesn't make you right.


You said that by saying "there's no such thing as a hunting rifle", one was shown to be too unintelligent to carry on a conversation. It just follows that you attribute the same to Dancin_In_Anson and mpirooz, who expressed a similar sentiment. I don't think that of either of them... but then, I don't have a defective personality.

And, as stated, I was being sarcastic. So, I'm not actually agreeing with them... but thanks for the truism, I guess.
 
2012-08-30 09:35:39 PM

zarberg: I'm actually very curious who the NRA will endorse - Obama actually has a record of not pushing any new gun laws and Romney has a record (while he was governor of MA) of signing into law new gun restrictions.

Essentially, if they endorse Romney they are outing themselves without a doubt as a political organization and not a gun ownership organization.


Nah.

First, they endorse pro-gun Democrats (especially pro-gun *INCUMBENT* Democrats) over Republicans all the time. Happens *EVERY*FARKING*ELECTION*CYCLE*, and yet I have to point it out time and time again.

Secondly, the NRA knows that this election isn't about gun control legislation. They know that Romney won't sign anything significant. They can lean on him, because the reality is that they do have more pull with the Republicans.

What they are worried about is the Supreme Court. They are looking at the slim 5 to 4 majorities for the Heller and McDonald decisions, and they know that all it would take is a conservative on the court to die or retire, and an Obama administration to appoint a more liberal justice to effectively neuter those decisions. They wouldn't be outright overturned, of course, because of stare decisis, but the right could be interpreted much more narrowly.

Third, Romney was *VERY* smart in picking Paul Ryan: He's A rated by the NRA, effectively countering your argument.
 
2012-08-30 09:58:43 PM

sprawl15: MithrandirBooga: Dancin_In_Anson: bulldg4life: No shiat. Of course, most reasonable people long ago mastered the idea of compromise.

Ok...we can ban high capacity magazines when we ban cars that can go faster that say 30 mph.

False equivalency. Cars provide a necessary function in society. High capacity mags do not. Cars are designed for transportation. Guns are designed for killing.

You're not addressing his assertion.


Probably because it's just as stupid as the opposite argument. Extremes are bad. Ban all weapons is stupid. Let every weapon be legal - just as stupid. Reductio ad absurdum.


It's not an all or nothing world, folks.
 
2012-08-30 10:12:03 PM

DirkValentine: Can you ever be a farking a man and go further than one sentence in explaining your posts?

you have to be the biggest phony on this site. Yeah, your life turned out ok, and you took care of your sons and now fark everyone else

You are farking disgusting



Sounds like someone needs to change their farkin' tampon and have another drink.
 
2012-08-30 10:19:21 PM
YOU GONNA GET MASS-KILLED!!!! OOGA BOOGA!
 
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