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(Telegraph)   Amazonian community wiped out by gold hunters. This is not a repeat from 1520   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 16
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2012-08-30 06:47:23 PM  
1 votes:
super_grass


Eh, you can't hide from civilization forever.

Sooner or later you get dragged into the 21st century kicking and screaming.


I don't think you can enter the 21st-century after you've been burned alive.

Its not unreasonable for indigenous people to want to set the terms for how they adopt modernity rather than have it forced on them on the terms of outsiders.

/masters of cultural anthropology
//gradutate certificate in human rights
2012-08-30 06:44:48 PM  
1 votes:
Mid_mo_mad_man

Nothing sad about this. A farming culture wipes out hunter gathers. Just natural order of things.

Nothing sad about the murder of those innocent people. After all, they were Indians, so its not like they were real people or anything, amirite? Just the natural order of things.

/fark you, by the way
2012-08-30 05:14:04 PM  
1 votes:

cryinoutloud: I watched a show on 60 Minutes that was about Indians and how much they love to buy gold. There are companies that will sell them gold on payment plans, and the people get little payment books, so they can have their gold and pay for it gradually. I don't remember all the reasoning as to why Indians love gold so much, but if you want to blame someone for hoarding or over-valuing gold, blame them.

India's love affair with gold

Here's what your well-dressed Indian bride looks like:

You'd better be wearing lots of gold, and it had better be obvious.


Similar things happen in Brazil (though I haven't heard of mass-murders this bad) except that it's usually by loggers, not gold miners. If it wasn't gold, it'd just be something else. These people have nobody to protect them if someone wants them dead.
2012-08-30 12:54:44 PM  
1 votes:

Latinwolf: Missionaries have been preaching to the Pirahãs for 200 years and have converted not one. Everett did not know this when he first visited them in 1977 at age 26. A missionary and a linguist, he was sent to learn their language, translate the Bible for them, and ultimately bring them to Christ.

Instead, they brought him to atheism. "The Pirahãs have shown me that there is dignity and deep satisfaction in facing life and death without the comfort of heaven or the fear of hell and in sailing toward the great abyss with a smile."

They better hope the fundies don't decide to invade that place and wipe them out for being heretics.


It's hard to threaten a people who already live a bronze age existence in the Amazon with visions of hell.

Where they live is already worse.
2012-08-30 12:40:52 PM  
1 votes:
If we ever meet the real Aliens, this is what would happen. While they might overall seem friendly or disinterested, some small subgroup of them would kill us all for some stupid reason or by accident.
2012-08-30 12:15:21 PM  
1 votes:

super_grass:
Sooner or later you get dragged into the 21st century kicking and screaming face down in a pool of blood.


Hate to be That Guy, but little different from what went on in North America from ~1500 to ~1900. It *would* be heartening to see the miners brought to trial, though, as a sign of tiny incremental progress in standards of human conduct.
2012-08-30 12:13:37 PM  
1 votes:
The whole tribal massacre thing must have been in the outtakes

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2012-08-30 12:09:50 PM  
1 votes:
Call these guys, they'll take care of the murderers...

1.bp.blogspot.com

/srsly, they're actors with millions of dollars, they'll hire someone
2012-08-30 12:06:59 PM  
1 votes:
I watched a show on 60 Minutes that was about Indians and how much they love to buy gold. There are companies that will sell them gold on payment plans, and the people get little payment books, so they can have their gold and pay for it gradually. I don't remember all the reasoning as to why Indians love gold so much, but if you want to blame someone for hoarding or over-valuing gold, blame them.

India's love affair with gold

Here's what your well-dressed Indian bride looks like:

i.i.com.com

You'd better be wearing lots of gold, and it had better be obvious.
2012-08-30 12:05:23 PM  
1 votes:
And a Man sat alone, drenched deep in sadness.

And all the animals drew near to him and said, "We do not like to see you so sad. Ask us for whatever you wish and you shall have it."

The Man said, "I want to have good sight." The vulture replied, "You shall have mine."

The Man said, "I want to be strong." The jaguar said, "You shall be strong like me."

Then the Man said, "I long to know the secrets of the earth." The serpent replied, "I will show them to you."

And so it went with all the animals. And when the Man had all the gifts that they could give, he left.

Then the owl said to the other animals, "Now the Man knows much, he'll be able to do many things. Suddenly I am afraid."

The deer said, "The Man has all that he needs. Now his sadness will stop."

But the owl replied, "No. I saw a hole in the Man, deep like a hunger he will never fill. It is what makes him sad and what makes him want. He will go on taking and taking, until one day the World will say, 'I am no more and I have nothing left to give.'"
2012-08-30 11:47:38 AM  
1 votes:
Thats so sad, they were slated to enter the bronze age in a decade or so.
2012-08-30 09:52:35 AM  
1 votes:

TheHighlandHowler: Andromeda: Wow, people suck.

/threadjack: does anyone remember the name of a book by a guy who went off for a year to live with a tribe in the Amazonian rainforest and they had completely opposite morals/standards than many other Western societies? saw it in a Fark thread once but forgot the name of it, and just reminded of this now...


An Amazon tribe converts the missionary


That's the one. Thanks!
2012-08-30 09:29:57 AM  
1 votes:

Andromeda: Wow, people suck.

/threadjack: does anyone remember the name of a book by a guy who went off for a year to live with a tribe in the Amazonian rainforest and they had completely opposite morals/standards than many other Western societies? saw it in a Fark thread once but forgot the name of it, and just reminded of this now...



An Amazon tribe converts the missionary
2012-08-30 09:01:34 AM  
1 votes:

Andromeda: Wow, people suck.

/threadjack: does anyone remember the name of a book by a guy who went off for a year to live with a tribe in the Amazonian rainforest and they had completely opposite morals/standards than many other Western societies? saw it in a Fark thread once but forgot the name of it, and just reminded of this now...


Don't know, but I remember the NPR show on the Amazonian tribe that had a totally different linguistic structure as any other known language (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9458681), but I don't think that's what you're looking for.
2012-08-30 08:49:24 AM  
1 votes:
Wow, people suck.

/threadjack: does anyone remember the name of a book by a guy who went off for a year to live with a tribe in the Amazonian rainforest and they had completely opposite morals/standards than many other Western societies? saw it in a Fark thread once but forgot the name of it, and just reminded of this now...
2012-08-30 07:52:07 AM  
1 votes:
Why does the white man lust after the yellow rock?
 
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