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(Guardian)   **high squeaky voice** Record numbers of Britons are dying from helium   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 51
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2012-08-30 01:01:25 AM
"Almost all of those who died taking barbiturate and helium were recorded as suicides. "

Just what I expected.
 
2012-08-30 01:18:50 AM
Blame suicides on drugs, blame suicides on guns, anything else we can pass suicides on to? Hybrids? Pit bulls? incandescent light bulbs? tofu? Well, tofu's a given.
 
2012-08-30 01:28:45 AM
Helium is a gateway drug. despite it having no recreational value that I can tell other than making you sound funny.

But I'm somewhat serious about it being a gateway drug. Before I ever had a sip of alcohol or even saw weed I succumbed to peer pressure to inhale some helium from a balloon at a party. I was slightly nervous as I had been taught very strongly never to inhale anything and I figured that included helium from a balloon.

Lo and behold it just made our voices sound funny and we didn't even get high at all.
 
2012-08-30 01:59:47 AM
Helium is inert..it won't get you high. The only "high" you can get from it is oxygen deprivation.
Now, some of the little party balloon thing for helium are canisters mixed with other stuff. The article really doesn't make it clear why helium, an inert gas, is causing deaths.
 
2012-08-30 02:17:37 AM

optikeye: Helium is inert..it won't get you high. The only "high" you can get from it is oxygen deprivation.
Now, some of the little party balloon thing for helium are canisters mixed with other stuff. The article really doesn't make it clear why helium, an inert gas, is causing deaths.


Yeah it does, it doesn't make clear why helium inhalation as a method of suicide is is being mixed in with recreational drug deaths.
 
2012-08-30 08:25:31 AM
You say there are people dying from helium over doses?

Then, I guess you could say,

(Puts on glasses)

The death rate is rising

Yeeeeeaw!
 
2012-08-30 08:26:02 AM
media.comicvine.com

Do they talk like this?
 
2012-08-30 08:27:03 AM
So, two a year rather than one?
 
2012-08-30 08:29:10 AM
So helium, which is a method of suicide and intentionally used as such, kills people more than recreational drugs which require a massive OD to kill you (or just plain can't in the cast of pot). This is surprising to who exactly?
 
2012-08-30 08:34:07 AM
FTA: Helium and barbiturates contributed to more deaths last year than ecstasy, cannabis, mephedrone and GHB

Why, why, is cannabis on this list?
 
2012-08-30 08:35:03 AM

violentsalvation


Yeah it does, it doesn't make clear why helium inhalation as a method of suicide is is being mixed in with recreational drug deaths.


I believe helium is one of those gases you can breathe and your body doesn't respond to the lack of oxygen. (There is another common one but I can't remember what it is.) If you're breathing air with a lower percentage of O2 than normal, your body will respond by increasing the rate of respiration to compensate, but if you're inhaling/exhaling these other gases your body won't respond even though you're not getting oxygen.

Combining a large dose of barbiturates with breathing this sort of gas looks like a painless and effective approach to suicide.
 
2012-08-30 08:38:47 AM

whyRpeoplesostupid: FTA: Helium and barbiturates contributed to more deaths last year than ecstasy, cannabis, mephedrone and GHB

Why, why, is cannabis on this list?


Yeah, how do you die from a cannabis OD?
 
2012-08-30 08:46:43 AM
Yep. Helium is inert and completely harmless. It is a standard gas used in scuba diving and is breathed at very high pressures with no Ill effects except it makes you very cold and talk funny.

Oxygen does not get you high either. (sorry Fight Club) If it did there would be a lot of dead divers.
 
2012-08-30 08:49:14 AM

whyRpeoplesostupid: FTA: Helium and barbiturates contributed to more deaths last year than ecstasy, cannabis, mephedrone and GHB

Why, why, is cannabis on this list?

According to TFA cannabis caused "7 deaths last year." It was likely a similar scenario to the helium deaths.
"He had just taken a hit of helium when struck by a lorry."
 
2012-08-30 08:50:06 AM

Englebert Slaptyback: I believe helium is one of those gases you can breathe and your body doesn't respond to the lack of oxygen. (There is another common one but I can't remember what it is.) If you're breathing air with a lower percentage of O2 than normal, your body will respond by increasing the rate of respiration to compensate, but if you're inhaling/exhaling these other gases your body won't respond even though you're not getting oxygen.


Absolutely correct.

TMI, I know, but my mother used helium when she decided it was time to check out. Supposedly not uncomfortable, but I'm not exactly one to find out.
 
2012-08-30 08:51:22 AM

whyRpeoplesostupid: FTA: Helium and barbiturates contributed to more deaths last year than ecstasy, cannabis, mephedrone and GHB

Why, why, is cannabis on this list?


Because England?
 
2012-08-30 09:03:01 AM

optikeye: Helium is inert..it won't get you high. The only "high" you can get from it is oxygen deprivation.
Now, some of the little party balloon thing for helium are canisters mixed with other stuff. The article really doesn't make it clear why helium, an inert gas, is causing deaths.


Helium has a higher affinity for hemoglobin than oxygen. Breathing it will replace your body's oxygen with helium. Without oxygen, you die from anoxia.
 
2012-08-30 09:04:33 AM
From the study: "excluding alcohol and tobacco"

So, a study that covers "Deaths related to drug poisoning in England and Wales, 2011" doesn't bother looking at the two most dangerous drugs in society.

Sounds legit!
 
2012-08-30 09:11:53 AM

Englebert Slaptyback: I believe helium is one of those gases you can breathe and your body doesn't respond to the lack of oxygen. (There is another common one but I can't remember what it is.)


Nitrogen. About three quarters of the Earth's atmosphere is nitrogen. I read a story about a man who died cleaning inside a university chemistry lab not knowing that the atmosphere in the room was 100% nitrogen. It feels normal to breathe. It's only when you become faint from lack of oxygen that you notice anything is wrong.
 
2012-08-30 09:22:12 AM
The helium's involved because when they're lying on the floor saying "Auugh! My heart! Call an ambulance!" Their friends are cracking up at the squeaky voice.
 
2012-08-30 09:33:24 AM
i1126.photobucket.com

It's a perfectly natural bodily function! ...And it's odorless!
 
2012-08-30 09:35:15 AM

Billy Bathsalt: whyRpeoplesostupid: FTA: Helium and barbiturates contributed to more deaths last year than ecstasy, cannabis, mephedrone and GHB

Why, why, is cannabis on this list?
According to TFA cannabis caused "7 deaths last year." It was likely a similar scenario to the helium deaths.
"He had just taken a hit of helium when struck by a lorry."


I was also intrigued so I took a look at the report itself:

"Where more than one drug is mentioned on a death certificate the death will be counted in more than one category in Table 3. For example, if both heroin and cannabis are mentioned, the death will be recorded once under heroin and once under cannabis. Therefore the numbers for different substances cannot be added together to give a total number of deaths"

"Deaths involving cannabis were also very low (seven deaths in 2011) and usually involved more than one substance."
 
2012-08-30 09:35:20 AM

jbrooks544: whyRpeoplesostupid: FTA: Helium and barbiturates contributed to more deaths last year than ecstasy, cannabis, mephedrone and GHB

Why, why, is cannabis on this list?

Yeah, how do you die from a cannabis OD?


I'd imagine you die from the intake of Cheetos and Twinkies...
 
2012-08-30 09:36:00 AM

BrainyBear: [media.comicvine.com image 720x480]

Do they talk like this?


Get out of my head... I came here for this picture/reference. Good Job!
 
2012-08-30 09:39:13 AM

Bender The Offender: optikeye: Helium is inert..it won't get you high. The only "high" you can get from it is oxygen deprivation.
Now, some of the little party balloon thing for helium are canisters mixed with other stuff. The article really doesn't make it clear why helium, an inert gas, is causing deaths.

Helium has a higher affinity for hemoglobin than oxygen. Breathing it will replace your body's oxygen with helium. Without oxygen, you die from anoxia.


Breathing too much helium in chemistry class?

Helium doesn't have an affinity for hemoglobin, or anything else for that matter. Helium, other inert gasses, and water kill people in about the same way - if you fill your lungs with them they take up the space that needs to be occupied by oxygen.

The nature of helium makes an accidental death nearly impossible. A person inhaling too many balloons of it will likely pass out, hit the floor, his lungs will re-fill with the air in the room and he will recover. However inhaling too much helium while standing on the edge of a cliff could lead to accidental death and a Darwin award.
 
2012-08-30 09:42:35 AM

T.M.S.: Yep. Helium is inert and completely harmless. It is a standard gas used in scuba diving and is breathed at very high pressures with no Ill effects except it makes you very cold and talk funny.

Oxygen does not get you high either. (sorry Fight Club) If it did there would be a lot of dead divers.


But I was under the impression that oxygen was like love, you get too much you get too high. Not enough and you're gonna die.

/Yeah, love gets you high.
 
2012-08-30 09:47:27 AM

Englebert Slaptyback: I believe helium is one of those gases you can breathe and your body doesn't respond to the lack of oxygen. (There is another common one but I can't remember what it is.)


Your body actually responds to the rise in CO2.
 
2012-08-30 09:47:36 AM

jbrooks544: whyRpeoplesostupid: FTA: Helium and barbiturates contributed to more deaths last year than ecstasy, cannabis, mephedrone and GHB

Why, why, is cannabis on this list?

Yeah, how do you die from a cannabis OD?


You get a job working in an illegal non-osha compliant weed farm and a huge bale of it rolls over on you and crushes you to death.
 
2012-08-30 09:47:51 AM
Cause and affect, supply and demand? What now, plans to supply more canabis to stop this outrageous use of helium? Maybe starbucks should start selling cocaine as coffee is so detrimental to health.
 
2012-08-30 09:50:09 AM

Englebert Slaptyback: violentsalvation

Yeah it does, it doesn't make clear why helium inhalation as a method of suicide is is being mixed in with recreational drug deaths.


I believe helium is one of those gases you can breathe and your body doesn't respond to the lack of oxygen. (There is another common one but I can't remember what it is.) If you're breathing air with a lower percentage of O2 than normal, your body will respond by increasing the rate of respiration to compensate, but if you're inhaling/exhaling these other gases your body won't respond even though you're not getting oxygen.

Combining a large dose of barbiturates with breathing this sort of gas looks like a painless and effective approach to suicide.


I think that was precisely Violentsalvation's point, helium users are trying to commit suicide not get high, the other recreational drug users are not usually trying to directly commit suicide. Putting the two different things in the same article does seem odd.
 
2012-08-30 09:52:59 AM

whyRpeoplesostupid: FTA: Helium and barbiturates contributed to more deaths last year than ecstasy, cannabis, mephedrone and GHB

Why, why, is cannabis on this list?


They forgot.
 
2012-08-30 09:57:41 AM

whyRpeoplesostupid: FTA: Helium and barbiturates contributed to more deaths last year than ecstasy, cannabis, mephedrone and GHB

Why, why, is cannabis on this list?


I've been trying to OD off of it for years!

/best to keep trying
 
2012-08-30 10:01:01 AM
Guardian

Please explain *any* cannabis death.


You know, minus the farkin b.s. and false positives.
 
2012-08-30 10:01:15 AM

OrangeSnapper: Bender The Offender: optikeye: Helium is inert..it won't get you high. The only "high" you can get from it is oxygen deprivation.
Now, some of the little party balloon thing for helium are canisters mixed with other stuff. The article really doesn't make it clear why helium, an inert gas, is causing deaths.

Helium has a higher affinity for hemoglobin than oxygen. Breathing it will replace your body's oxygen with helium. Without oxygen, you die from anoxia.

Breathing too much helium in chemistry class?

Helium doesn't have an affinity for hemoglobin, or anything else for that matter. Helium, other inert gasses, and water kill people in about the same way - if you fill your lungs with them they take up the space that needs to be occupied by oxygen.

The nature of helium makes an accidental death nearly impossible. A person inhaling too many balloons of it will likely pass out, hit the floor, his lungs will re-fill with the air in the room and he will recover. However inhaling too much helium while standing on the edge of a cliff could lead to accidental death and a Darwin award.


Using helium delivered under pressure via a tube into a hood taped over your head so that you are breathing nothing but the helium even after you pass out is a suicide method. Since your body is not registering an increase in carbon dioxide you keep breathing as normal but quickly die from a lack of oxygen. People who make use of helium are doing it to deliberately cause their own death, not to get high. It is supposed to be quick and painless, if undignified.
 
2012-08-30 10:04:12 AM
Sulfur Hexafluoride > Helium
 
2012-08-30 10:10:24 AM
Them cats are droppin' like flies man. Flies with shiat for brains.
 
2012-08-30 10:12:28 AM

BarkingUnicorn: "Almost all of those who died taking barbiturate and helium were recorded as suicides. "

Just what I expected.


You read this in Morgan Freeman's voice on helium.
 
2012-08-30 10:40:14 AM

Englebert Slaptyback: violentsalvation


Combining a large dose of barbiturates with breathing this sort of gas looks like a painless and effective approach to suicide.


I now have my plan.
 
2012-08-30 10:52:23 AM
 
2012-08-30 11:51:30 AM
People get high in Xenon, however.

Please don't use He to kill yourself, He is gone forever, once used. Use a light freon, does the same thing.
 
2012-08-30 12:08:00 PM
How does one die from cannabis?
 
2012-08-30 12:25:37 PM
So are children's party clowns a high-risk category?
 
2012-08-30 12:26:36 PM

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: How does one die from cannabis?


Take a hit, then get yourself killed.

That's pretty much it.
 
kgf
2012-08-30 01:22:59 PM
Stupid article. It's not death by barbiturates and death by helium, it's death by barbiturates and helium together. Since helium cannot hurt you, the only way this can work is if the people take the drugs to knock themsleves out with a bag over their head so their body can't fight for life when it realizes it's dieing of oxygen deprivation.
 
2012-08-30 01:40:40 PM
I thought there was a shortage of Helium.

Seems to me that this problem solves itself--either we run out of Helium, or it becomes too expensive for fools to get their hands on it, or we run out of people who kill themselves with the stuff.

Seems like this is one of those "growing problems" that are actually self-limiting problems. Either supplies crash, or population crashes. End of problem. Every reader of the Reverend Thomas Malthus' Essay on Population knows that.*

*Every non-conservative reader of the Reverend Thomas Malthus' Essay on Population knows that. The conservatives, on the other hand, seem to miss the mathematical purity of the argument in their haste to defend their precious "unlimited growth". There is a way that the Reverend's concerns can fail to materialize in the fulness of time: human society can collapse leading to death on a massive scale due to disease, war, civil war, starvation, etc. And you can avoid the collapse only by controlling population growth. The Reverend was a good Church of England conservative so he wanted VOLUNTARY MORAL population control, namely abstenance from reproductive sex, but any population control method could work, except the rhythm method, of course.

But I digress. Helium is not a serious problem because it is lighter than air and thus much harder to get.
 
2012-08-30 03:04:24 PM

brantgoose: or we run out of people who kill themselves with the stuff.


This part, sadly, never happens. Stupidity is not limited to heredity, nor is it a finite resource.

/"Why can't we harness that power, Stephen?"
//not obscure, but +1 useless point for getting the reference
 
2012-08-30 03:53:53 PM

WelldeadLink: BarkingUnicorn: "Almost all of those who died taking barbiturate and helium were recorded as suicides. "

Just what I expected.

You read this in Morgan Freeman's voice on helium.


Everything sounds better in Morgan Freeman's voice on helium.
 
2012-08-30 03:58:23 PM
Miserable Britons! They are taking away our celebration! (pops like a balloon)
 
2012-08-30 05:43:25 PM

Happy Hours: Helium is a gateway drug. despite it having no recreational value that I can tell other than making you sound funny.

But I'm somewhat serious about it being a gateway drug. Before I ever had a sip of alcohol or even saw weed I succumbed to peer pressure to inhale some helium from a balloon at a party. I was slightly nervous as I had been taught very strongly never to inhale anything and I figured that included helium from a balloon.

Lo and behold it just made our voices sound funny and we didn't even get high at all.


forum.spikednations.com

Did you walk on sunshine?
 
2012-08-30 06:40:37 PM
Dear Helium users: Just say no tanks....

/more for me.
 
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