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(Daily Mail)   Mother refuses cancer treatment to let her unborn child live and survives the cancer anyway. I was just dusting off all of these 'no cure for cancer' jokes. *Sniffle*   ( dailymail.co.uk) divider line
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2012-08-30 12:53:38 AM  
I say she's a Republican plant. Funny how this story is coming out right now, during the GOP convention.
 
2012-08-30 01:05:26 AM  
That's quite a gamble and sacrifice. I'm glad it turned out well.

You call it a miracle, some call it luck.
 
2012-08-30 01:33:36 AM  
Dammit she doesn't have to do that. You CAN have chemo while pregnant, and radiation after. More doctors need to know this.

If anyone is curious, i'm going to link my friends blog
She's well over the cancer now, and has a healthy daughter. Go back to the beginning of the blog a few years ago for the full story.
 
2012-08-30 01:46:15 AM  
For some reason I got confused and thought the headline was about another one of these fundie types who refuse medical treatment for their children. Glad to find I was wrong.
 
2012-08-30 02:30:18 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: I say she's a Republican plant. Funny how this story is coming out right now, during the GOP convention.


Yeah, they're getting mighty desperate. Imagine using someone from the U.K. to further your agenda. :-D
 
2012-08-30 03:57:56 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: I say she's a Republican plant. Funny how this story is coming out right now, during the GOP convention.

FTFA:
Jo Powell, 41, discovered lump in her breast days after finding out she was pregnant with first child



upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-08-30 05:53:44 AM  
So, she got lucky, and then the GOP bootlickers tout her as a universal example of why mothers who choose to have a medically-indicated abortion and get chemotherapy and radiation treatment for their breast cancer are horrible people.

Also, I find it odd that they tout this story, but don't say the type of Breast Cancer that she had, other than she was able to have the lumps locally removed. That, to me, tells me that it wasn't a very aggressive, or highly staged cancer.
 
2012-08-30 05:55:52 AM  

BronyMedic: So, she got lucky, and then the GOP bootlickers tout her as a universal example of why mothers who choose to have a medically-indicated abortion and get chemotherapy and radiation treatment for their breast cancer are horrible people.

Also, I find it odd that they tout this story, but don't say the type of Breast Cancer that she had, other than she was able to have the lumps locally removed. That, to me, tells me that it wasn't a very aggressive, or highly staged cancer.


Sooo, she should have gotten an abortion instead of caring about her baby?
 
2012-08-30 05:57:29 AM  
Am I the only one to notice the parents have black hair and the kid has red? -_-
 
2012-08-30 06:12:57 AM  
 
2012-08-30 06:22:21 AM  
Survived? Should hope so too, the babysitter would be kinda pissed otherwise.
 
2012-08-30 06:22:37 AM  
It's a ginger.

It stole her soul.
 
2012-08-30 06:29:46 AM  

BronyMedic: robohobo: Sooo, she should have gotten an abortion instead of caring about her baby?

Uh, no. I don't think I said that at all. The decision to have an abortion, and to undergo chemotherapy and radiation, versus undergoing a purely surgical approach, should be a decision made between a woman and her doctor, after weighing all of the factors of her breast cancer - including the type and stage of breast cancer they are dealing with.

Or were you not aware that there are multiple types and stages of breast cancer, each with different time periods for optimum treatment, approaches, and responses to therapy. 

Improvement in targeted therapies and modalities during pregnancy for breast cancer have been made, but there is still substantial risk of adverse fetal outcome, and there are still periods of time where medical abortion is recommended.


You said that so well it just needed to be said again, and again ,and again...
 
2012-08-30 06:34:10 AM  
AAAAAAGGGGGHHHH!!! THE KID'S A GINGER!!!11!!!

Just kidding. Glad everything turned out okay.
 
2012-08-30 06:36:54 AM  
Heck, once the cancer remissions she can have one or tumor babies.
 
2012-08-30 06:39:01 AM  
how did that ugly woman find anyone willing to have sex with her?
 
2012-08-30 06:41:38 AM  

BronyMedic: GOP bootlickers tout her as a universal example of why mothers who choose to have a medically-indicated abortion and get chemotherapy and radiation treatment for their breast cancer are horrible people.


Ok, I admit, I am not completely up to date on world events, but where is anyone saying this? Because if they are, well, they are despicable.

(FWIW, I agree with everything you said in your 06:12:57 post)
 
2012-08-30 06:42:50 AM  

brewswane: how did that ugly woman find anyone willing to have sex with her?


Um, there's farkers :)
/What
 
2012-08-30 06:44:51 AM  

doglover: Heck, once the cancer remissions she can have one or tumor babies.


It's not a too-mahh!!
 
2012-08-30 06:44:52 AM  
She's in the UK, obviously she was misdiagnosed by the government in the first place. All the real doctors are in the U.S., at least for the moment.
 
2012-08-30 06:49:28 AM  
came for the ginger comments, left satisfied
 
2012-08-30 06:57:42 AM  
Ok I went through 14 months of infertility before getting pregnant and I totally understand her reasoning. I don't think she is a crazy pro lifer. She was 41 the chance of her getting pregnant again is probably zero. This was her only shot to have a kid and after wanting one for so long and then finally getting pregnant its amazing and the best thing ever; you don't want to just abort it.

I am super pro choice and I always thought that if I had a tard baby or something I would just abort it but when I did all the testing I remember thinking i don't think i could abort the baby I want this baby way too much. Everything turned out fine though.

/due on Thanksgiving
//its a boy!
 
2012-08-30 07:04:24 AM  
Meanwhile, in the Dominican Republic, which doesn't give mothers the choice, a pregnant teen died recently when she was refused chemo because doctors were afraid it would kill the baby, and thus make them felons in the eyes of the law. It's a good thing the baby survived...wait, no it didn't.
 
2012-08-30 07:04:49 AM  
Murder. she should get death
 
2012-08-30 07:08:15 AM  
Shouldn't she get a "cute" or "smoking hot" descriptor in the headline? All of the prerequisites are there
 
2012-08-30 07:09:01 AM  

cgobla: Ok I went through 14 months of infertility before getting pregnant and I totally understand her reasoning. I don't think she is a crazy pro lifer. She was 41 the chance of her getting pregnant again is probably zero. This was her only shot to have a kid and after wanting one for so long and then finally getting pregnant its amazing and the best thing ever; you don't want to just abort it.


This is understandable. But at least she had the choice. There are some in the GOP (who are a minority even among the "rape babies must be carried to term" crowd, thank whatever forces put us here) who would make it a crime to kill the fetus under any circumstances, even from procedures designed to save the life of the mother (which chemo definitely would do). IOW, they want the USA to treat fetuses just like the Dominican Republic does: worth killing the mother over.
 
2012-08-30 07:13:45 AM  

Uisce Beatha: Ok, I admit, I am not completely up to date on world events, but where is anyone saying this? Because if they are, well, they are despicable.


It's only a matter of time, my friend. Only a matter of time. You're talking about an insidious group, the anti-abortion movement in the United States, who are still lying to people about abortions being linked to breast cancer, in an attempt to terrify and mislead people seeking legitimate information about abortion.
 
2012-08-30 07:17:42 AM  
So it's an "unborn child" if a women wants to keep it, but a fetus if they do not.

Kind of how we classify flowers and weeds then?
 
2012-08-30 07:22:42 AM  
This story is tailor-made for the extreme pro-life lobby.
 
2012-08-30 07:23:15 AM  

BronyMedic: Uh, no. I don't think I said that at all. The decision to have an abortion, and to undergo chemotherapy and radiation, versus undergoing a purely surgical approach, should be a decision made between a woman and her doctor, after weighing all of the factors of her breast cancer - including the type and stage of breast cancer they are dealing with.


So much this. All I ask is that women have the choice. I know full well that some women will abort at a less than 1% chance of death; others will attempt to keep the baby even if their death is 99.9% sure. But that's their choice. Even the doctors(I always recommend multiple opinions in such a case) can only advise and their professional opinions as to the odds.
 
2012-08-30 07:24:56 AM  

JeffMD: Am I the only one to notice the parents have black hair and the kid has red? -_-


Am I the only one to notice that she did get treatments?
 
2012-08-30 07:28:24 AM  
I'm very happy for this woman and her baby. She has fortitude nd deserves admiration. Detracting from this heroic woman is not the answer because we don't like a political party. She made her choice. A courageous one.
 
2012-08-30 07:31:00 AM  

Proteios1: I'm very happy for this woman and her baby. She has fortitude nd deserves admiration. Detracting from this heroic woman is not the answer because we don't like a political party. She made her choice. A courageous one.


AMERICA> our god forsaken land of liberty
where an abortion is something good. and history books/video games are episodes in time.
like Commander Keen

www.commander-keen.com
 
2012-08-30 07:32:49 AM  

Proteios1: I'm very happy for this woman and her baby. She has fortitude nd deserves admiration. Detracting from this heroic woman is not the answer because we don't like a political party. She made her choice. A courageous one.


According to the article, she also had a type of Breast Cancer that was highly responsive to surgical treatment of the local area, with very little potential for metastasis based on her body's hormone production during pregnancy. Meaning she either had a very low stage Breast Cancer, or it was not very aggressive or responsive to sex hormones.

As pointed out earlier, not everyone has that. Some people wind up with a highly staged tumor, or with a tumor that is receptive to a certain kind of sex hormone - Progesterone, Estrogen, or HER2 - where an abundance of that hormone will cause the tumor to grow or metastasize rapidly. In that case, the only chance for survival might be an abortion combined with aggressive chemotherapy and surgical therapies.
 
2012-08-30 07:35:25 AM  
Gonna suck when she gets cancer later on from the treatments she underwent. But glad she made it with the baby.
 
2012-08-30 07:43:46 AM  

robohobo: BronyMedic: So, she got lucky, and then the GOP bootlickers tout her as a universal example of why mothers who choose to have a medically-indicated abortion and get chemotherapy and radiation treatment for their breast cancer are horrible people.

Also, I find it odd that they tout this story, but don't say the type of Breast Cancer that she had, other than she was able to have the lumps locally removed. That, to me, tells me that it wasn't a very aggressive, or highly staged cancer.

Sooo, she should have gotten an abortion instead of caring about her baby?


She should have done whatever she chose to do. Is that concept that difficult to grasp?
 
2012-08-30 07:46:13 AM  

robohobo: Sooo, she should have gotten an abortion instead of caring about her baby?


No. She should have had the choice.
 
2012-08-30 07:47:08 AM  

jso2897: robohobo: BronyMedic: So, she got lucky, and then the GOP bootlickers tout her as a universal example of why mothers who choose to have a medically-indicated abortion and get chemotherapy and radiation treatment for their breast cancer are horrible people.

Also, I find it odd that they tout this story, but don't say the type of Breast Cancer that she had, other than she was able to have the lumps locally removed. That, to me, tells me that it wasn't a very aggressive, or highly staged cancer.

Sooo, she should have gotten an abortion instead of caring about her baby?

She should have done whatever she chose to do. Is that concept that difficult to grasp?


And we have a winner :)
 
2012-08-30 07:47:46 AM  

indylaw: This story is tailor-made for the extreme pro-life lobby.


Cue some nutbag saying that pregnancy sends cancer into remission.
 
2012-08-30 07:52:56 AM  
I've seen this happen for real before. The mother refused curative therapy because it would kill her baby. The mother new she would die because of her decision but she wanted the baby to live. Baby lived. Mom died.
 
2012-08-30 07:56:49 AM  
41 and pregnant with her first child?

Oh..one of THOSE women.
 
2012-08-30 07:58:22 AM  
I can't tell what to make of this until I see how many pregnant women with advanced cancer choose to forgo treatment and wind up DEAD because of the cancer.
 
2012-08-30 08:00:48 AM  
Isn't this is what choice is about?
 
2012-08-30 08:12:23 AM  

mrlewish: Isn't this is what choice is about?


Exactly. Unfortunately, the anti-choice crowd in this country will use this rare incident as "proof" that women in similar situations should be denied medical treatment that will save their lives.
 
2012-08-30 08:12:42 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: jso2897: robohobo: BronyMedic: So, she got lucky, and then the GOP bootlickers tout her as a universal example of why mothers who choose to have a medically-indicated abortion and get chemotherapy and radiation treatment for their breast cancer are horrible people.

Also, I find it odd that they tout this story, but don't say the type of Breast Cancer that she had, other than she was able to have the lumps locally removed. That, to me, tells me that it wasn't a very aggressive, or highly staged cancer.

Sooo, she should have gotten an abortion instead of caring about her baby?

She should have done whatever she chose to do. Is that concept that difficult to grasp?

And we have a winner :)


I can guarantee you that no forced-birth advocate ITT will respond to the point.
 
2012-08-30 08:27:50 AM  

jso2897: tinfoil-hat maggie: jso2897: robohobo: BronyMedic: So, she got lucky, and then the GOP bootlickers tout her as a universal example of why mothers who choose to have a medically-indicated abortion and get chemotherapy and radiation treatment for their breast cancer are horrible people.

Also, I find it odd that they tout this story, but don't say the type of Breast Cancer that she had, other than she was able to have the lumps locally removed. That, to me, tells me that it wasn't a very aggressive, or highly staged cancer.

Sooo, she should have gotten an abortion instead of caring about her baby?

She should have done whatever she chose to do. Is that concept that difficult to grasp?

And we have a winner :)

I can guarantee you that no forced-birth advocate ITT will respond to the point.


I know they shouldn't but after watching the Daily Show last night, wow, just wow, the back flips people can do :(
 
2012-08-30 08:39:33 AM  
If the GOP says anything about this, can one say "Another Victory for Socialized Medicine and the National Health Service?"
 
2012-08-30 08:43:46 AM  
You idiots calling her a 'Republican Plant' do know this story happened in the UK right?


trololololol
 
2012-08-30 08:49:34 AM  
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7297436/79045592#c79045592" target="_blank">jso2897</a>:</b> <i>robohobo: BronyMedic: So, she got lucky, and then the GOP bootlickers tout her as a universal example of why mothers who choose to have a medically-indicated abortion and get chemotherapy and radiation treatment for their breast cancer are horrible people.

Also, I find it odd that they tout this story, but don't say the type of Breast Cancer that she had, other than she was able to have the lumps locally removed. That, to me, tells me that it wasn't a very aggressive, or highly staged cancer.

Sooo, she should have gotten an abortion instead of caring about her baby?

She should have done whatever she chose to do. Is that concept that difficult to grasp?</i>

I'll bite.

If this is an "unborn child" as the article suggests, then killing it to save the mom isn't a choice.

"You don't have to <b><i>choose </i></b>not to kill your baby. Your not <b><i>supposed </i></b>to kill your baby."

There. Flame away.
 
2012-08-30 08:50:12 AM  
Did I have HTML fail... didn't work because it is inside quote? Who knew?
 
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