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(Press & Sun Bulletin)   Binghamton, NY judge approves his own pistol permit, accidentally discharges the weapon in his chambers. New York State: "That was wrong, you should not have done that"   (pressconnects.com) divider line 27
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2012-08-30 12:34:13 AM  
Judge Vincent Sgueglia, the sole licensing officer in Tioga County, was unaware that he could not approve his own pistol permit

Aren't judges supposed to get some kind of, I dunno, LEGAL TRAINING, or something?


Sgueglia accidentally discharged a .38 caliber Smith and Wesson revolver, while attempting to repair it

Oh for F*CK'S sake. This moron shouldn't be in any position of authority higher than dog catcher.
 
2012-08-30 01:36:59 AM  
Bench pop?
"They were so convincing in their argument!"
 
2012-08-30 01:38:00 AM  
Oopsie!
 
2012-08-30 01:39:55 AM  

fusillade762: Judge Vincent Sgueglia, the sole licensing officer in Tioga County, was unaware that he could not approve his own pistol permit

Aren't judges supposed to get some kind of, I dunno, LEGAL TRAINING, or something?


Sgueglia accidentally discharged a .38 caliber Smith and Wesson revolver, while attempting to repair it

Oh for F*CK'S sake. This moron shouldn't be in any position of authority higher than dog catcher.


RTFA, this is NY we're talking about here.
 
2012-08-30 01:41:46 AM  
The commission notes that Sgueglia wasn't ticketed or summoned for violating a local ordinance regulating discharge of firearms.

Well I'm surprised he wasn't ticketed (not)

scienceblogs.com
 
2012-08-30 01:41:52 AM  

fusillade762: Judge Vincent Sgueglia, the sole licensing officer in Tioga County, was unaware that he could not approve his own pistol permit

Aren't judges supposed to get some kind of, I dunno, LEGAL TRAINING, or something?


Sgueglia accidentally discharged a .38 caliber Smith and Wesson revolver, while attempting to repair it

Oh for F*CK'S sake. This moron shouldn't be in any position of authority higher than dog catcher.


Look, the problem is a matter of education. Preteens have successfully repaired loaded AK-47 semiautomatic assault rifle revolvers without any problems thanks to proper for-profit education. Dude didn't pay his dues, that's all.
 
2012-08-30 01:46:24 AM  

Rufus Lee King: Not the four hundreth gun thread, guys. For God's mercy, please!


It's an ad supported site and a topic that has people on both sides with strong opinions. Do the math.
 
2012-08-30 01:47:39 AM  

fusillade762: Judge Vincent Sgueglia, the sole licensing officer in Tioga County, was unaware that he could not approve his own pistol permit

Aren't judges supposed to get some kind of, I dunno, LEGAL TRAINING, or something?


Sgueglia accidentally discharged a .38 caliber Smith and Wesson revolver, while attempting to repair it

Oh for F*CK'S sake. This moron shouldn't be in any position of authority higher than dog catcher.


He did. Good legal training, in fact.

He learned that unless there is a specific rule forbidding you to do something, you can successfully argue in court that "There is no regulation forbidding me from signing my own paperwork," and other judges and the system in general will gape at him in admiration "By god, you're RIGHT! There is no rule or law saying you can't do that! Nice job, dude!"

I am not kidding. One of the first things you learn in law school is how to find and exploit loopholes and distinguish contrary law to support your conclusion.
 
2012-08-30 01:49:31 AM  
This judge is just begging to be photoshopped, don't ya think?
 
2012-08-30 01:51:22 AM  
yea...this is the Tioga County judge...Binghamton is in Broome.
Figures....my girlfriend has been waiting for 9 months to get her permit...this is prly why
 
2012-08-30 02:04:57 AM  

Rufus Lee King: Should I get the clip versus magazine thing over before it starts? All I own is a revolver and a shotgun, so neither applies to me.

Nonetheless:



So that's over, now, right?


So how many clips can I fit in the average magazine for a Glock 47?
 
2012-08-30 02:20:47 AM  
It must be nice to have a different set of laws to follow than everyone else.
 
2012-08-30 02:47:56 AM  

Rufus Lee King: Well, listen. I was only foolin' before. I got guns all kinds. Except for the .380.

I am white, after all.

[www.taschen.com image 640x943]


bless your heart i knew you wouldn't let us down.

/you talkin' to me?
 
2012-08-30 02:49:53 AM  

david_gaithersburg: fusillade762: Judge Vincent Sgueglia, the sole licensing officer in Tioga County, was unaware that he could not approve his own pistol permit

Aren't judges supposed to get some kind of, I dunno, LEGAL TRAINING, or something?


Sgueglia accidentally discharged a .38 caliber Smith and Wesson revolver, while attempting to repair it

Oh for F*CK'S sake. This moron shouldn't be in any position of authority higher than dog catcher.

RTFA, this is NY we're talking about here A 70 year old man we're talking about here.



"Sgueglia, who reached the mandatory retirement age of 70 this year and whose term in office ends on Dec. 31, 2012, agreed to the censure and stipulated not to serve as a judicial hearing officer after leaving the bench. He first took judicial office in 1993 and had not been disciplined for judicial misconduct previously."

I'm guessing that had a lot to do with it.

Also, back off, not all NY residents (or LEO/Judges) are crazy.
 
2012-08-30 04:08:34 AM  

ladyfortuna: david_gaithersburg: fusillade762: Judge Vincent Sgueglia, the sole licensing officer in Tioga County, was unaware that he could not approve his own pistol permit

Aren't judges supposed to get some kind of, I dunno, LEGAL TRAINING, or something?


Sgueglia accidentally discharged a .38 caliber Smith and Wesson revolver, while attempting to repair it

Oh for F*CK'S sake. This moron shouldn't be in any position of authority higher than dog catcher.

RTFA, this is NY we're talking about here A 70 year old man we're talking about here.


"Sgueglia, who reached the mandatory retirement age of 70 this year and whose term in office ends on Dec. 31, 2012, agreed to the censure and stipulated not to serve as a judicial hearing officer after leaving the bench. He first took judicial office in 1993 and had not been disciplined for judicial misconduct previously."

I'm guessing that had a lot to do with it.

Also, back off, not all NY residents (or LEO/Judges) are crazy.


[citation needed]
 
2012-08-30 04:28:20 AM  

Rufus Lee King: Should I get the clip versus magazine thing over before it starts? All I own is a revolver and a shotgun, so neither applies to me.

Nonetheless:

[images.wikia.com image 374x599]

So that's over, now, right?


Awesome. How many clips or magazines fit in a .38 revolver?

/RTFA?
 
2012-08-30 05:05:09 AM  
This seems really dumb because you know if a judge goes up to another judge for a permit for anything, they will sign it off as "professional courtesy" unless there is a really well known issue about him.
 
2012-08-30 06:52:02 AM  

Rufus Lee King: Should I get the clip versus magazine thing over before it starts? All I own is a revolver and a shotgun, so neither applies to me.


Actually, it does.

Unless the shotgun is a single or double barrel break-open type, it has a magazine. Most have a fixed tubular one.

Also, revolvers can take half and full-moon clips.

I generally shoot either a hickory flat bow, or a flintlock long rifle, so neither actually applies to most of my shooting.
 
2012-08-30 07:13:15 AM  

Diogenes The Cynic: It must be nice to have a different set of laws to follow than everyone else.


I always rant that when I lived up there I couldn't get a permit despite actually needing one.

That this is the guy that wouldn't sign my permit burns me even more.
 
2012-08-30 08:16:49 AM  

Rufus Lee King: Well, listen. I was only foolin' before. I got guns all kinds. Except for the .380.

I am white, after all.

[www.taschen.com image 640x943]


Meh. I'm whiter than De Niro, and I can pull off a mohawk better:

i39.tinypic.com

i41.tinypic.com

Also, I was born with a flintlock in my hand:

img144.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-30 09:26:25 AM  

Abraham Union: yea...this is the Tioga County judge...Binghamton is in Broome.


At least the submitter didn't say "upstate."
 
2012-08-30 10:15:15 AM  

Abraham Union: yea...this is the Tioga County judge...Binghamton is in Broome.
Figures....my girlfriend has been waiting for 9 months to get her permit...this is prly why


Meh, small town type of judge. Figured he could do what he wanted. Judge is s dumbass for not working on the gun without checking to see if it was unloaded. Darwin just missed.

/From Appalachin, usually tell people I from Binghamton since they might have heard of it before.
 
2012-08-30 11:20:16 AM  

Abraham Union: yea...this is the Tioga County judge...Binghamton is in Broome.


Yeah, but it's a distinction without a difference to anybody who doesn't live here.

xtalman: /From Appalachin, usually tell people I from Binghamton since they might have heard of it before.


Exactly. I grew up in Williamson County, Illinois, and eventually, once you leave the area, you learn to just say "Carbondale".
 
2012-08-30 11:35:16 AM  

dittybopper: Unless the shotgun is a single or double barrel break-open type, it has a magazine. Most have a fixed tubular one.

Also, revolvers can take half and full-moon clips.


I took that to mean that the 'clip vs mag' doesn't really apply, since people tend to not use the wrong terminology when talking about revolvers/shotguns. People seem to mostly no know about revolver clips, and they tend to not say 'clip' when talking about shotgun magazines.

/I'm really kind of over the entire debate. The terms have been used interchangeably for so damn long that if you can't figure out what someone is talking about the problem is with you.
//Yes, I'm aware of the difference, but 99.9% of the time, using the terms interchangeably really doesn't matter.
 
2012-08-30 12:04:35 PM  
A well regulated Judiciary, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
 
2012-08-30 03:42:48 PM  
Judge Vincent Sgueglia, the sole licensing officer in Tioga County, was unaware that he could not approve his own pistol permit

When it's everyone else, the phase they use is "ignorance of the law is no excuse".

When it's them, its "Oh, sorry, I didn't know, it won't happen again".
 
2012-08-30 11:27:31 PM  
What could he have been fixing on the gun while it was loaded?
I guess he fixed it since it fired.

He fixed the not-shooty part.
 
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