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(ABC Local)   100 year-old driver who careened into children outside elementary school while backing out of supermarket parking spot thinks his brakes failed, Matlock might be a re-run   (abclocal.go.com) divider line 93
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2012-08-30 12:51:42 AM
FTA: Carter's daughter said her father will no longer be driving.

That should have been the case BEFORE the guy hurt someone!
 
2012-08-30 12:56:40 AM
FTFA: Eleven people were taken to local hospitals and are in stable condition, according to the fire department. Two adults and nine children were injured, including three 4-year-old boys and one 11-year-old boy.

Preston Carter, who says he turns 101 years old next month, says he went to get groceries at Food 4 Less and was backing out of a parking lot to go home at the time of the accident.

"I lost control of the car. The brakes failed, I think," he said. "I'm sorry."

"The initial reports from our units on scene is they checked immediately under the car. There were none found under the car. There was no other hazards, other than what needed to be done, was treating these patients and calming down the crowd," said LA City Fire Asst. Chief Robert Franco.

No one was seriously injured.

The LAPD says no crime was committed, and that Carter would not be facing charges for the accident. Mechanics were to examine Carter's blue Cadillac for mechanical failures. Carter's daughter said her father will no longer be driving.



Isn't there a rule that says once you hit 100, you get a once-in-a-lifetime exemption to run over up to 20 people -- with up to 3 fatalities -- without getting into any trouble whatsoever? Oh... wait a minute... isn't that only supposed to apply to farmer's markets?
 
2012-08-30 03:05:26 AM
This is what happens when we let the elderly drive instead of extracting their nutrients for our personal use.
 
2012-08-30 06:46:07 AM
His brakes *did* fail. They failed to be where he put his right foot down, which was in the vicinity of the accelerator.
 
2012-08-30 06:57:33 AM
WHAT THE FARKIN FARK IS THAT AUTOPLAY TALKING ADD THAT COMES UP KILL IT WITH FIRE
 
2012-08-30 06:59:46 AM
That's the thing about brakes: they fail 100% of the time when you hit the gas pedal.

If this happened to a 40 year old, do you think they would be charged?
 
2012-08-30 07:05:47 AM
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2012-08-30 07:07:06 AM
I'M OLD, I'M CONFUSED!
 
2012-08-30 07:08:00 AM
CHILD PORN THREAD
 
2012-08-30 07:08:41 AM

Father_Jack: WHAT THE FARKIN FARK IS THAT AUTOPLAY TALKING ADD THAT COMES UP KILL IT WITH FIRE


What are these "ads" of which you speak?
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2012-08-30 07:08:56 AM
People over 80 shouldn't be allowed to drive.

And males in their teens and early 20's.

Accident rates would dwindle.
 
2012-08-30 07:10:11 AM
He hit eleven people. Sure, the brakes failed. I get that. A couple of them were kids being carried by their mother, so double the points for one hit. I get that too, but how quickly does he back out of a parking spot? Was it a DeLorean that only works in reverse?
 
2012-08-30 07:15:46 AM
Really, this was not the old man's fault. It was the daughter's fault for not taking away his license. It was a tussle getting my dad to give up his license, but we enlisted the help of his doctor. All because she didn't feel like doing his errands, I'll bet.
 
2012-08-30 07:18:12 AM
We OBVIOUSLY need MORE REGULATIONS and MORE laws AGAINST these DANGEROUS automobiles...
 
2012-08-30 07:19:00 AM
Not his fault. There shouldn't be school classes in August before Labor Day in the first place. He was probably thinking in his day school classes didn't start until September so the kids shouldn't have been there to hit in the first place.
 
2012-08-30 07:19:17 AM

BostonEMT: We OBVIOUSLY need MORE REGULATIONS and MORE laws AGAINST these DANGEROUS automobiles...


UNSAFE AT ANY SPEED i tells ya!!
 
2012-08-30 07:19:17 AM
Thank you AARP for demonizing any legislator who starts talking about testing for elderly drivers.
 
2012-08-30 07:20:07 AM

SpaceyCat: FTA: Carter's daughter said her father will no longer be driving.

That should have been the case BEFORE the guy hurt someone!


In her defense, she's probably too old to be a proper judge of his competence. If he's a hundred, she's gotta be pushing 80. I think they need to go down another generation to find someone capable of exercising reasonable judgement in this area.
 
2012-08-30 07:23:24 AM

Gunny Walker: He hit eleven people. Sure, the brakes failed. I get that. A couple of them were kids being carried by their mother, so double the points for one hit. I get that too, but how quickly does he back out of a parking spot? Was it a DeLorean that only works in reverse?


I've noticed when these geriatric people go on one of their killing sprees....er... I mean have an issue with their car they almost never hit only one person. I think it has something to do with their reflexes being almost totally non-existent. That, or they have a policy of if you feel an impact and hear screaming, keep going.

I never did work out how it is that when a person is so old they can barely walk we still let them drive a car. Just hide their damn keys.
 
2012-08-30 07:25:02 AM
I'm sure it's no fun to lose the freedom of driving, but good GRIEF why don't they have mandatory driving tests when you renew your driver's license after age X (say, 70)? If they can't pass the same driver's range test that their 16-year-old grandkids have to pass, then they should NOT be driving!
 
2012-08-30 07:26:38 AM
But I thought this was the way to country kitchen buffet!
 
2012-08-30 07:28:16 AM
This is just like that time I took off my top and got killed by Greg Kinnear.
 
2012-08-30 07:31:48 AM

Gunny Walker: He hit eleven people. Sure, the brakes failed. I get that. A couple of them were kids being carried by their mother, so double the points for one hit. I get that too, but how quickly does he back out of a parking spot? Was it a DeLorean that only works in reverse?


americasright.com

Image caught on scene.
 
2012-08-30 07:33:09 AM
At 100 they should take away your license and give you a free bus pass. Or in the semi-not-too-distant future require you to have a self driving car.
 
2012-08-30 07:35:12 AM

farkityfarker: People over 80 shouldn't be allowed to drive.

And males in their teens and early 20's.

Accident rates would dwindle.


Except that in the case of the young people it's shiatty driving due to poor decisions, not lack of mental and physical agility. If anything, your agility is at its peak when you're 16-20. If people didn't start driving until 25 you'd have the same lack of experience resulting in shiatty decision-making without the potential of lightning reflexes stepping in and saving lives at the last minute.

//We really need to make people retake the test every 10 years when they renew their license, though. Not "a test every time you renew after age 70", just a basic driving test every time you renew, period.
 
2012-08-30 07:36:14 AM

farkityfarker: People over 80 shouldn't be allowed to drive.

And males in their teens and early 20's.

Accident rates would dwindle.


I'm in total agreement. Seems like a no brainer doesn't it?
 
2012-08-30 07:37:26 AM

FauxReal: At 100 they should take away your license and give you a free bus pass. Or in the semi-not-too-distant future require you to have a self driving car.


They should do that, but do it long before people reach 100. Most people die well before reaching 100.
 
2012-08-30 07:37:55 AM
I have $50 that say there was nothing wrong with the brakes. I feel sorry for all involved.
 
2012-08-30 07:49:08 AM
Maybe Logan's Run had the right idea...
 
2012-08-30 07:49:09 AM
"I keep hitting little boys..what are the odds!?"
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/obscure?
 
2012-08-30 07:50:06 AM
Twilight has taught me that it is ok for 100 y/o men to try and pick up children.
 
2012-08-30 07:50:23 AM

Jim_Callahan: //We really need to make people retake the test every 10 years when they renew their license, though. Not "a test every time you renew after age 70", just a basic driving test every time you renew, period.


I was thinking more along the lines of after you turn 65, retake the driving part of the test, and for every 5 years after that. Maybe shorten the interval to every two years after you turn 80.
 
2012-08-30 07:50:24 AM
My license here in Norway expires on my 100th b'day.

Que up the 'but elderly are statistically safer....' bullshiat.
 
2012-08-30 07:51:11 AM

Insatiable Jesus: Thank you AARP for demonizing any legislator who starts talking about testing for elderly drivers.


Florida got around that little issue when they started using the Real ID standards for driver's licenses. It forced the old folks to come into the DMV and get looked at and tested if need be instead of just renewing by mail.
 
2012-08-30 07:54:36 AM

Burr: Jim_Callahan: //We really need to make people retake the test every 10 years when they renew their license, though. Not "a test every time you renew after age 70", just a basic driving test every time you renew, period.

I was thinking more along the lines of after you turn 65, retake the driving part of the test, and for every 5 years after that. Maybe shorten the interval to every two years after you turn 80.


Also, for any infraction that either is a threat to human safety or causes more then a set monetary amount (say $5000) of damage, permanent ban (or something along those lines)

/also, if you drive more then 20 under the speed limit
//that one is just my pet peeve
 
2012-08-30 07:56:46 AM
When I read about this I knew it would end up on FARK.

Not so cool story, bro...

I was in the BMV getting my license renewed a bit more than a month ago. There was an old lady in there getting her license renewed as well. Her daughter was accompanying her. She was taking the vision test. She kept getting it wrong. The lady behind the counter kept letting her try it again and again. All the while her daughter was standing beside ma tittering nervously, obviously praying that the BMV lady didnt do what she clearly should have and refused to renew the old bags license. She was still trying to pass the test when they called my name, so I don't know how it turned out, but I know they asked her to do it at least 4 times while I watched. Shame on the BMV employee and shame on the daughter.

/also shame on me for not speaking up...
 
2012-08-30 07:57:28 AM

Jon iz teh kewl: BostonEMT: We OBVIOUSLY need MORE REGULATIONS and MORE laws AGAINST these DANGEROUS automobiles...

UNSAFE AT ANY SPEED i tells ya!!


Are you saying I should take away my Mom's beloved Corvair Monza with the two-speed automatic transmission? Naw, just keep that correct weird-ass front/rear tire pressure.
 
2012-08-30 08:05:32 AM

Fark Me To Tears:

The LAPD says no crime was committed, and that Carter would not be facing charges for the accident. Mechanics were to examine Carter's blue Cadillac for mechanical failures. Carter's daughter said her father will no longer be driving.


Isn't there a rule that says once you hit 100, you get a once-in-a-lifetime exemption to run over up to 20 people -- with up to 3 fatalities -- without getting into any trouble whatsoever? Oh... wait a minute... isn't that only supposed to apply to farmer's markets?


If I hit someone with a hammer, I go to jail
If I hit them with a car, I'm off scot-free?

We should apply the same standards to automobile accidents as we do to accidental gun discharges. If you do it, you're going to jail. Cars are pretty farking dangerous. Driving one poorly should not be a free pass to murder, or maim people.

Speaking of farmers markets...........

CSB/

A few years ago I was in a restaurant with my dad. He sees one of his friends, and they have a conversation. My dad asks the guy how he's doing.

"My wife and son were run over in Santa Monica the other day, and died."

That accident in the farmers market in Santa Monica was the prototype of the problem of old people driving.

Another CSB//

My uncle was hit by a 16 year old with a provisional license, and both his legs were broken. It took him a year to die in the hospital.

After seeing quite a few dead people, and pulling several people from cars after accidents, I think I'm justified in saying we ought to take this more seriously.
 
2012-08-30 08:06:24 AM

BostonEMT: We OBVIOUSLY need MORE REGULATIONS and MORE laws AGAINST these DANGEROUS automobiles...


How about a compromise where we only ban certain "assault style" vehicles. you know, ones with high capacity fuel tanks, collapsible roofs, exhaust silencers, and fully automatic transmissions.
 
2012-08-30 08:10:54 AM

Fark Me To Tears: Isn't there a rule that says once you hit 100, you get a once-in-a-lifetime exemption to run over up to 20 people -- with up to 3 fatalities -- without getting into any trouble whatsoever? Oh... wait a minute... isn't that only supposed to apply to farmer's markets?


Yes, if it's anywhere else, they only allow you 10 people with 1 fatality.
You're not supposed to be as excited going elsewhere like you are going to market.
Now if it's a bingo parlor or a lottery game den, you're supposed to show a little restraint.
 
2012-08-30 08:11:20 AM

Jim_Callahan: farkityfarker: People over 80 shouldn't be allowed to drive.

And males in their teens and early 20's.

Accident rates would dwindle.

Except that in the case of the young people it's shiatty driving due to poor decisions, not lack of mental and physical agility. If anything, your agility is at its peak when you're 16-20. If people didn't start driving until 25 you'd have the same lack of experience resulting in shiatty decision-making without the potential of lightning reflexes stepping in and saving lives at the last minute.

//We really need to make people retake the test every 10 years when they renew their license, though. Not "a test every time you renew after age 70", just a basic driving test every time you renew, period.


fark a basic driving test. How about a full physical like pilots and commercial drivers are required to undergo?
 
2012-08-30 08:20:28 AM
The only people who should be driving are those who can regularly demonstrate that they are able to properly control a vehicle under all conditions. This is regardless of age. Can't safely operate a vehicle at 25? No license. 65? Again, no license.

More strenuous testing to gain a license, and regular retesting to keep it (every five years or so). Testing needs to cover adverse weather conditions (use a skid car), as well as panic situations. Driver education needs to encompass not only how to physically operate a vehicle, but proper cornering technique, proper line maintenance, how and when NOT to use the brakes, and using the throttle to adjust weight distribution and yaw.
 
2012-08-30 08:34:12 AM
On the way hom, he decided to take in a bike race, um, I mean take out.
 
2012-08-30 08:35:01 AM
there was no way my 83 yr old mom was going to pass her drivers exam last year. she can barely see or walk. some happy arsehole at NJDMV noticed a pack of seniors standing in line, said "oh no this will never do", and ushered them over to seating. and gave everyone in the group their license, simple as that.

bound & determined to do whatever she wants whenever she wants, Mom ignores offers of rides (and the fact that her chores & groceries etcetera are all taken care of by her adult kids) and some months ago has seizures while driving, blacks out & winds up with the Saturn on someones front lawn.

After hospitalization Mom is recovering in a assisted therapy center. i'm there visiting when the president of some senior citizens club Mom is in stops by to visit. sure as shiat, he's telling her how the cops have no right in taking her license from her, who the hell are they, blah blah blah. i kept my mouth shut.

NY, NJ & FLA have an incredible amount of seniors that still drive. it's obvious to me that the people who are in power don't give a damn if you or your kids get run the hell over by these gray haired menaces.
 
2012-08-30 08:38:02 AM

Brick-House: On the way hom, he decided to take in a bike race, um, I mean take out.

 

www.huffingtonpost.com
 
2012-08-30 08:42:39 AM
Hitting little boys and getting caught

/checks link
/nope, wasn't in Pennsylvania
//very surprised it wasn't Florida
///and he's black!
//just show's stupidity behind the wheel does not discriminate
 
2012-08-30 08:43:54 AM

KrispyKritter: NY, NJ & FLA have an incredible amount of seniors that still drive. it's obvious to me that the people who are in power don't give a damn if you or your kids get run the hell over by these gray haired menaces.


Kids don't vote, gray hairs do and they are a significant and active voting block. That is all you need to know to explain this situation.
 
2012-08-30 08:49:11 AM
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doesn't see what all the fuss is about.

/Or anything else,for that matter.
 
2012-08-30 08:52:12 AM
I wonder if we'll ever find out if the brakes failed.
 
2012-08-30 09:01:27 AM

browneye: I wonder if we'll ever find out if the brakes failed.


Wouldn't it be funny if they had.
 
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