Do you have adblock enabled?
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Yahoo)   "Hitler" clothing store creates outrage for some reason   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 206
    More: Obvious, Hitler, swastikas, Politics of Germany, Gujarat, total costs, Jewish community, shahs, Ahmedabad  
•       •       •

8374 clicks; posted to Main » on 29 Aug 2012 at 4:58 PM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



206 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread
 
2012-08-29 04:46:18 PM  
If you have a problem with their clothing, just call their courtesy help-line at 213-DU WERDEST EINE KRANKENSCHWEISTER BRACHEN!!!
 
2012-08-29 04:54:49 PM  
How could he Nazi that people would be offended?
 
2012-08-29 04:59:22 PM  
The Management
i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2012-08-29 05:02:29 PM  
What did Hitler do that was so bad anyway?
 
2012-08-29 05:02:54 PM  
Shah insisted that until the store opened he did not know who Adolf Hitler was and that Hitler was a nickname given to the grandfather of his store partner because "he was very strict".

"I didn't know how much the name would disturb people," he told AFP by telephone from Ahmedabad. "It was only when the store opened I learnt Hitler had killed six million people."



Looks like you've got a bit more reading to do...
 
2012-08-29 05:04:17 PM  
The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.
 
2012-08-29 05:04:45 PM  
Oh, so you just assume it is that Hitler?
 
2012-08-29 05:05:56 PM  
"Shah insisted that until the store opened he did not know who Adolf Hitler was and that Hitler was a nickname given to the grandfather of his store partner because "he was very strict"."

Plus, my grandmother had nothing but the utmost respect for the Jewish community. When I was a kid she told me to always treat the Jewish kids with the utmost respect, or they'd put the sheni curse on me.
 
2012-08-29 05:06:11 PM  
You know who else wore clothes?

/Stalin
 
2012-08-29 05:06:53 PM  

geoduck42: The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.


Eh, the ignorance of the uneducated masses frequently knows no bounds, particularly when it comes to history in a faraway part of the world. Most Afghanis have no idea why there are U.S. troops in their country.
 
2012-08-29 05:08:00 PM  

geoduck42: The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.


Indian troops fought in Europe. I have a hard time believing that he did not know. That swastika dotting the letter "I" gives it away, don't ya think?

He's lying like a rug.
 
2012-08-29 05:08:11 PM  
Maybe he could rename the store "Hilter", yes??
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-29 05:08:35 PM  

geoduck42: The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.


And put a Nazi Swastika in there to dot the I. Totally by coincidence.

(And yes, I know Swastikas have a Hindu meaning, but again, that's one hell of a coincidence.)
 
2012-08-29 05:08:40 PM  

geoduck42: The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.


Can you blame him? I mean, not a whole lot of people have ever heard of Hitler. Up until last week, I honestly thought he was the right fielder for the Astros.
 
2012-08-29 05:08:51 PM  
Go look at the picture, he has a Swastika as the dot in the " i " in Hitler. He knew what he was doing, didn't think he would get as much of backlash as he got.
 
2012-08-29 05:11:12 PM  
Does he sell used clothes from Poland? Something out of style since the late '30s.
 
2012-08-29 05:11:46 PM  
To be perfectly fair, Hitler IS way catchier than Schicklegruber.
 
2012-08-29 05:12:16 PM  
Maybe his argument would hold more water if it wern't for the swastika dotting ther letter i.

l3.yimg.com


/Sieg Heils!!!
 
2012-08-29 05:12:42 PM  
You mean you aren't familiar with Ragev Hitler, patriarch of the Hitler family of the Andhra Pradesh region of India?
 
2012-08-29 05:13:12 PM  
What. Was it their marketing of "The last suit you will ever need to buy?"

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-08-29 05:13:55 PM  

chuckufarlie: Does he sell used clothes from Poland? Something out of style since the late '30s.


Perhaps trendy arm bands and shirts with fancy patches.
 
2012-08-29 05:14:21 PM  

geoduck42: The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.



It is believable. A lot of non-western nations were relatively untouched by WW II culturally speaking. As a result, Hitler and the Nazis are viewed more as historical figures rather than monsters.

From Asia:
www.cynical-c.com

But we have our own equivalent:

www.sierraus.com

Genghis Khan was the Hitler of his time with Mongol conquests killing some 30-60 million people.
 
2012-08-29 05:14:55 PM  

geoduck42: The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.


Doesn't help his case that he dotted the 'i' in the store sign with a swastika either.
 
2012-08-29 05:16:45 PM  

LineNoise: What. Was it their marketing of "The last suit you will ever need to buy?"

[upload.wikimedia.org image 480x353]


And a big sign in the break room touting the employee discount program: "Work makes free clothes."
 
2012-08-29 05:16:46 PM  
Sorry people who have suffered their own brand of atrocities that nobody gives a shiat about don't treat yours with the reverence you believe it deserves.
 
2012-08-29 05:18:34 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: It is believable. A lot of non-western nations were relatively untouched by WW II culturally speaking. As a result, Hitler and the Nazis are viewed more as historical figures rather than monsters.


India did directly fight the nazis. Not to mention what went on internally during WWII was a huge part of their history and independence.
 
2012-08-29 05:18:52 PM  
Isn't there already a company that makes Hitler clothing?
www.yourlogoresources.com
 
2012-08-29 05:19:08 PM  
Well dang, I was going to open a Stalin ladies wear and fine undergarments store across from that location.
 
2012-08-29 05:19:26 PM  
Why don't you try on our Mein Kampfy t-shirt?
 
2012-08-29 05:21:55 PM  
But... but... but people wear Che T-shirts all the time, why would ANYONE get upset over Hitler?
 
2012-08-29 05:22:37 PM  
It really wasn't the clothes store that was his downfall. Its when he ordered the ovens claiming he wanted to branch out into a bakery that people really took notice.
 
2012-08-29 05:22:45 PM  
Do they offer clothes for girl Hitlers?
farm5.static.flickr.com
 
2012-08-29 05:25:48 PM  
FTFA: Shah insisted that until the store opened he did not know who Adolf Hitler was and that Hitler was a nickname given to the grandfather of his store partner because "he was very strict".

Now let's think about this for a minute... You didn't know who Hitler was, but you understood the reference in your grandfather's naming of his store partner...

So you knew who he was... but you didn't know who he was...
 
2012-08-29 05:25:48 PM  
www.statefansnation.com
 
2012-08-29 05:25:50 PM  
Isn't the backwards swastika a sign of peace and prosperity in India?
 
2012-08-29 05:27:22 PM  
Well, you have to admit them Nazis were snappy dressers. The riding boot/breeches look IS a classic.....

/and the dagger worn on on the belt, scrumptious!
 
2012-08-29 05:27:22 PM  
Does the women's department sell Goebbels girdles?

/sorry
//sober
 
2012-08-29 05:28:00 PM  
Buy some Heil Jordans.

windycitizensports.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-29 05:28:39 PM  
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-08-29 05:28:41 PM  
media.giantbomb.com
 
2012-08-29 05:29:12 PM  
Well speaking as Conservative candidate I just drone on and on and on...never letting anyone else get a word in edgeways, until I start foaming at the mouth and fall over backwards
 
2012-08-29 05:29:44 PM  
Somewhere out there is a Gahan Wilson cartoon of a Neo-Nazi stormtrooper stomping the hell out of a shoe salesman. The caption reads "These will do nicely!"
 
2012-08-29 05:30:36 PM  
Christ, get over it already. It was years and years ago.
 
2012-08-29 05:30:57 PM  
FTFA: The owner of an Indian clothing store said Wednesday that he would only change its name from "Hitler" if he was compensated for re-branding costs, amid a growing row over the new shop.

The outlet, which sells Western men's wear, opened 10 days ago in Ahmedabad city in the western state of Gujarat with "Hitler" written in big letters over the front and with a Nazi swastika as the dot on the "i".

"I will change it (the name) if people want to compensate me for the money we have spent -- the logo, the hoarding, the business cards, the brand," Rajesh Shah told AFP.



Nope... tell you what... Why don't you just leave it alone? You're obviously too ignorant to understand the ramifications of your actions, so why should you have to deal with the consequences of that ignorance? I'm sure that if you continue on with this venture, people will eventually understand. After all, why should a businessman have to pay to correct his own incredibly stupid mistake?
 
2012-08-29 05:32:10 PM  
The selection there is not very good.
Mostly brown shirts.
 
2012-08-29 05:32:45 PM  

BigNumber12:

Eh, the ignorance of the uneducated masses frequently knows no bounds, particularly when it comes to history in a faraway part of the world. Most Afghanis have no idea why there are U.S. troops in their country.


I have no idea why there are U.S. troops in Afghanistan.
Other than the poppy trade.
 
2012-08-29 05:33:25 PM  

Fark Me To Tears: After all, why should a businessman have to pay to correct his own incredibly stupid mistake?


I'm sure he's soooo "sorry" about his "mistake" to get free publicity all over the world.
 
2012-08-29 05:34:36 PM  

Rip Dashrock: BigNumber12:

Eh, the ignorance of the uneducated masses frequently knows no bounds, particularly when it comes to history in a faraway part of the world. Most Afghanis have no idea why there are U.S. troops in their country.

I have no idea why there are U.S. troops in Afghanistan.
Other than the poppy trade.


2.bp.blogspot.com

:C
 
2012-08-29 05:35:37 PM  

geoduck42: The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.



No ifs or wows needed. If you knew that Mein Kampf is a best seller in India and has been reported in the western media before as such, you'd know he was bullshiatting.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/5182107/Indian-b u siness-students-snap-up-copies-of-Mein-Kampf.html

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2009/04/indian-business-students - snap-up-copies-of-mein-kampfsales-of-mein-kampf-adolf-hitlers-autobiog raphy-and-apologia-for-his-an.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8660064.stm

http://rt.com/news/mein-kampf-sales-india/

And so on.....
 
2012-08-29 05:36:16 PM  
The selection there is not very good.
Mostly brown shirts.


I LOL'ed.
 
2012-08-29 05:37:36 PM  
Is this the early 30s Hitler or the later one? That could make a difference.
 
2012-08-29 05:38:09 PM  

Branbot: Isn't the backwards swastika a sign of peace and prosperity in India?


farm6.staticflickr.com
 
2012-08-29 05:39:01 PM  

doubled99: Christ, get over it already. It was years and years ago.



The most amazing thing about the story was that some Jews in India complained.

They are freakin' everywhere and invading other countries and imposing on their cultures! Bunch of Nazis!
 
2012-08-29 05:39:20 PM  
You're gonna love the way you look.

Or else.
 
2012-08-29 05:40:53 PM  

olddeegee: Is this the early 30s Hitler or the later one? That could make a difference.


the younger one, when he was fat and doing shows in vegas.
 
2012-08-29 05:41:16 PM  
What a dumbass. Next they'll be telling us he doesn't know that Sweet Home Alabama is about Neil Young.
 
2012-08-29 05:41:22 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: geoduck42: The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.


It is believable. A lot of non-western nations were relatively untouched by WW II culturally speaking. As a result, Hitler and the Nazis are viewed more as historical figures rather than monsters.

From Asia:
[www.cynical-c.com image 400x285]

But we have our own equivalent:

[www.sierraus.com image 607x407]

Genghis Khan was the Hitler of his time with Mongol conquests killing some 30-60 million people.



That's a farking great point.
 
2012-08-29 05:44:36 PM  
This point made up-thread bears repeating...

Why is this ok?....
www.sierraus.com

Is it simply too soon for a Hitler store? Is there something less evil about a guy who killed many many many more people than Hitler did?

WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?
 
2012-08-29 05:44:39 PM  

colon_pow: olddeegee: Is this the early 30s Hitler or the later one? That could make a difference.

the younger one, when he was fat and doing shows in vegas.


farm2.staticflickr.com

/Hot, like an oven
 
2012-08-29 05:44:59 PM  

SmackLT: geoduck42: The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.

Can you blame him? I mean, not a whole lot of people have ever heard of Hitler. Up until last week, I honestly thought he was the right fielder for the Astros.


You mean their pinchhitler?
 
2012-08-29 05:46:17 PM  

colon_pow: olddeegee: Is this the early 30s Hitler or the later one? That could make a difference.

the younger one, when he was fat and doing shows in vegas.


No, it was Emo Hitler

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-29 05:47:13 PM  
The original Aryans were from India, right?
 
2012-08-29 05:47:56 PM  
Names are dangerous.
 
2012-08-29 05:47:59 PM  
Hugo is Boss
 
2012-08-29 05:48:12 PM  
B-but FREE SPEECH.

DURRRRRRRR


/durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
2012-08-29 05:48:21 PM  
"the hoarding"?

I think we have a contender for Weirdo Dumbass of the Year.
 
2012-08-29 05:50:04 PM  
Barbarians. I do all of my shopping at

i158.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-29 05:50:54 PM  

Xenomech: What did Hitler do that was so bad anyway?


Hey, he had train schedules that ran like oiled machines, summer camps with modern shower and oven facilities, and oversaw a huge staff of bureaucrats who could tell you where anyone was at any given moment in time.

What's not to like?
 
2012-08-29 05:51:21 PM  

BigNumber12: Barbarians. I do all of my shopping at

[i158.photobucket.com image 425x318]


Screw them. They only have a three day return policy.
 
2012-08-29 05:51:54 PM  
fc01.deviantart.net
 
2012-08-29 05:52:46 PM  

Xenomech: What did Hitler do that was so bad anyway?


he was vegetarian
 
2012-08-29 05:53:16 PM  

LineNoise: It really wasn't the clothes store that was his downfall. Its when he ordered the ovens claiming he wanted to branch out into a bakery that people really took notice.


alltheragefaces.com
 
2012-08-29 05:53:19 PM  

Silly Jesus: This point made up-thread bears repeating...

Why is this ok?....
[www.sierraus.com image 607x407]

Is it simply too soon for a Hitler store? Is there something less evil about a guy who killed many many many more people than Hitler did?

WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?




They use their ovens for cooking food?
 
2012-08-29 05:53:21 PM  
I remember this story from January 2002.
 
2012-08-29 05:53:27 PM  

Tymast: Xenomech: What did Hitler do that was so bad anyway?

he was vegetarian


no wonder he had to break so many eggs.
 
2012-08-29 05:55:13 PM  
'Aryan' is a linguistic class, nowadays.

//Queen of England is
//the 'Light of the Aryans'
 
2012-08-29 05:55:47 PM  
Here's the most offensive part besides the wholesale massacre of 6 million human beings and this guy's supposed ignorance of that history... his grammar. "I LEARNT Hitler had killed, etc." Is LEARNT Hindi for outright denial of recorded history like that idiot running Iran does so well by rewriting history? Beyond pathetic.
 
2012-08-29 05:56:13 PM  
Maybe it would be best if he just got out of the clothing business and tried something different, like say kitchen appliances.

www.standardsofexcellence.com
 
2012-08-29 05:57:54 PM  

guessi'mdoingfine: Here's the most offensive part besides the wholesale massacre of 6 million human beings and this guy's supposed ignorance of that history... his grammar. "I LEARNT Hitler had killed, etc." Is LEARNT Hindi for outright denial of recorded history like that idiot running Iran does so well by rewriting history? Beyond pathetic.


Sounds like he could use a lesson in language. Either him or the reporter.

Either way, would you kindly do the needful?
 
das
2012-08-29 05:58:58 PM  
There IS something to be said for name recognition.
 
2012-08-29 06:01:01 PM  

SmackLT: geoduck42: The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.

Can you blame him? I mean, not a whole lot of people have ever heard of Hitler. Up until last week, I honestly thought he was the right fielder for the Astros.


Hitler was the guy with the Michael Jordan mustache, right? 

\I assume he resells Hugo Boss?
 
2012-08-29 06:01:12 PM  

Silly Jesus: This point made up-thread bears repeating...

Why is this ok?....
[www.sierraus.com image 607x407]

Is it simply too soon for a Hitler store? Is there something less evil about a guy who killed many many many more people than Hitler did?

WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?


How about the fact that nobody even knows anyone who was living during that time?

That tends to happen after several centuries.

There's still plenty of people around that may not have been alive during WWII but have had close relatives that were.

/now where's my toga? I need to throw a party to celebrate an Empire built on lands taken by force and slavery.
 
2012-08-29 06:02:06 PM  

BigNumber12: Shah insisted that until the store opened he did not know who Adolf Hitler was and that Hitler was a nickname given to the grandfather of his store partner because "he was very strict".

"I didn't know how much the name would disturb people," he told AFP by telephone from Ahmedabad. "It was only when the store opened I learnt Hitler had killed six million people."


Looks like you've got a bit more reading to do...



Apparently it's YOU who has to do more reading to do, silly. Hitler only killed Jews. He killed six million Jews.
 
2012-08-29 06:02:15 PM  
Hey it's not like he could have named the store after a cow. There are only so many options available.
 
2012-08-29 06:02:21 PM  

peterthx: Silly Jesus: This point made up-thread bears repeating...

Why is this ok?....
[www.sierraus.com image 607x407]

Is it simply too soon for a Hitler store? Is there something less evil about a guy who killed many many many more people than Hitler did?

WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?

How about the fact that nobody even knows anyone who was living during that time?

That tends to happen after several centuries.

There's still plenty of people around that may not have been alive during WWII but have had close relatives that were.

/now where's my toga? I need to throw a party to celebrate an Empire built on lands taken by force and slavery.


Ask a Korean about the Hill of Ears. Then ask a Japanese about the Hill of Ears. That happened several hundred years ago.
 
2012-08-29 06:02:59 PM  

halestorm20: [images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 480x357]


The story behind that clip is that there was a major presentation about Mein Kampf going on at the conference center shown at the time they were filming that movie. It's a really strange scene without context.

\Frankly, it's a strange scene even with context.
 
2012-08-29 06:04:31 PM  
Seriously though, If a man wants to look really good, dressed to kill, there are not many better names.
 
2012-08-29 06:06:46 PM  
Got a pretty awesome surprise laugh on this one - there's an excellent stealh-ish zinger at the end of the article, although really probably unintentional:

After the entire article - nominally about people glorifying Hitler to some degree - the very next line is a link standing by itself, where you'd usually click for more info or related stories on most websites.

The link reads: Get full coverage of the Republican National Convention here

No lie. Yes funny!
 
2012-08-29 06:07:08 PM  
"People use such names mostly out of ignorance," Israel's Mumbai Consul General Orna Sagiv told AFP.

Then other times they call Palestinians "Arabs" to advance their own goals of military and political violence.
 
2012-08-29 06:08:18 PM  

Tom-Servo: Apparently it's YOU who has to do more reading to do, silly. Hitler only killed Jews. He killed six million Jews.



ohyou.jpg
 
2012-08-29 06:11:32 PM  

GoldDude: Maybe he could rename the store "Hilter", yes??
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 288x203]


Their line of Hilter tops are very offensive, as are their Bommel short-shorts.
 
2012-08-29 06:11:43 PM  

BigNumber12: geoduck42: The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.

Eh, the ignorance of the uneducated masses frequently knows no bounds, particularly when it comes to history in a faraway part of the world. Most Afghanis have no idea why there are U.S. troops in their country.


Ah, the irony.

/Afghans
 
2012-08-29 06:14:19 PM  
i993.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-29 06:16:38 PM  

peterthx: Silly Jesus: This point made up-thread bears repeating...

Why is this ok?....
[www.sierraus.com image 607x407]

Is it simply too soon for a Hitler store? Is there something less evil about a guy who killed many many many more people than Hitler did?

WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?

How about the fact that nobody even knows anyone who was living during that time?

That tends to happen after several centuries.

There's still plenty of people around that may not have been alive during WWII but have had close relatives that were.

/now where's my toga? I need to throw a party to celebrate an Empire built on lands taken by force and slavery.


Also, there may be less "outrage" over, say, Genghis Khan's excesses, or those of Emperor Nero; still, nobody's opening a "Nero and Caligula's Fine Fashions," and the only people calling themselves "Mongols" are a bunch of criminals.
 
2012-08-29 06:17:21 PM  
Then at the end of the interview the reporter asked the store owner, "Did you eat yet or what?" and he replied, "No, didchoo?" Not, "did you," "didchoo eat"? "Jew"? No, not "did you eat," but "Jew eat?" Jew. You get it? Jew eat?
 
2012-08-29 06:17:37 PM  

Atan: BigNumber12: geoduck42: The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.

Eh, the ignorance of the uneducated masses frequently knows no bounds, particularly when it comes to history in a faraway part of the world. Most Afghanis have no idea why there are U.S. troops in their country.

Ah, the irony.

/Afghans


Not as ironic as you seem to think. 

/You're Some, I'm Some
 
2012-08-29 06:20:11 PM  
Say what you will, but the Nazi party had fashion sense and a knack for theatrics.
 
2012-08-29 06:22:59 PM  
Well THAT settles it now doesn't it?

I'll never shop in Ahmedabad city, in the western state of Gujarat, EVER again.
 
2012-08-29 06:23:55 PM  
Motto -- Arbeit Macht You Look Good

Motto for when they open the store marketing the gays -- Arbeit Macht You Look Fabulous
 
2012-08-29 06:28:10 PM  

BigNumber12: Atan: BigNumber12: geoduck42: The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.

Eh, the ignorance of the uneducated masses frequently knows no bounds, particularly when it comes to history in a faraway part of the world. Most Afghanis have no idea why there are U.S. troops in their country.

Ah, the irony.

/Afghans

Not as ironic as you seem to think. 

/You're Some, I'm Some


So others have used the term out of ignorance too. I fail to see your point.
 
2012-08-29 06:28:22 PM  

super_grass: But... but... but people wear Che T-shirts all the time, why would ANYONE get upset over Hitler?


I've noticed something interesting (and sometimes hilarious)....the people who get all butthurt about anything that glorifies Che, or Castro, or currently Chavez, are pretty much the same people who sometimes like to talk about all the political policies Hitler got right, and how under Mussolini, at least the trains ran on time....
 
2012-08-29 06:30:00 PM  
Oy! Vey! Grammar Nazis have attacked the Hitler thread!

Bidness Man writes: "My colleagues and I were astounded to learn that "learnt" is an acceptable British variation of "learned," to express past learning.

Apparently Indians follow the British rules rather than the American rules for some reason. (Oh, yeah. The Empire. Now I remember). As does, well, pretty much the whole English-speaking world except people too lazy to switch their spell checker from US English to UK or other Englishes. God only knows what spell-checkers do in India: most likely, explode.

Personally I probably switch back and forth between UK and British usage according to whim, taste, or context. Although "I learnt" sounds wrong or at least wrongish, I do use some British usages when I prefer them or they sound "right".

I'd like to give Noah Webster a boot to the head. Spelling reformers piss me off. There's no way we want people to write the way they speak. Remember how some of them speak. There's no reason for them to be incomprehensible in writing as well as when they speak.

http://www.jwatsonassociates.com/newsletter/jwa_121.htm
 
2012-08-29 06:32:53 PM  

Canned Tamales: super_grass: But... but... but people wear Che T-shirts all the time, why would ANYONE get upset over Hitler?

I've noticed something interesting (and sometimes hilarious)....the people who get all butthurt about anything that glorifies Che, or Castro, or currently Chavez, are pretty much the same people who sometimes like to talk about all the political policies Hitler got right, and how under Mussolini, at least the trains ran on time....


[citation needed]
 
2012-08-29 06:34:38 PM  

Atan: So others have used the term out of ignorance too. I fail to see your point.



That you're nitpicking my grammar rather than addressing my idea, and being something of a douche about it.
 
2012-08-29 06:35:44 PM  

Boudica's War Tampon: "People use such names mostly out of ignorance," Israel's Mumbai Consul General Orna Sagiv told AFP.

Then other times they call Palestinians "Arabs" to advance their own goals of military and political violence.


Oh please. They're "Palestinians" the same way I'm a "Californian".
 
2012-08-29 06:36:10 PM  

BigNumber12: TheDirtyNacho: geoduck42: The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.


It is believable. A lot of non-western nations were relatively untouched by WW II culturally speaking. As a result, Hitler and the Nazis are viewed more as historical figures rather than monsters.

From Asia:
[www.cynical-c.com image 400x285]

But we have our own equivalent:

[www.sierraus.com image 607x407]

Genghis Khan was the Hitler of his time with Mongol conquests killing some 30-60 million people.


That's a farking great point.


And one of the most interesting wikipedia pages I've read recently.....fark, man, China makes the rest of the rest of the world look like farking amateurs at that whole mass war and genocide thing, even Russia can't keep up. They go through 50-100 million almost every century or so...
 
2012-08-29 06:37:53 PM  

BigNumber12: Atan: So others have used the term out of ignorance too. I fail to see your point.


That you're nitpicking my grammar rather than addressing my idea, and being something of a douche about it.


BigNumber12: Atan: So others have used the term out of ignorance too. I fail to see your point.


That you're nitpicking my grammar rather than addressing my idea, and being something of a douche about it.



Let's not go and start World War II over this.
 
2012-08-29 06:38:10 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: geoduck42: The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.


It is believable. A lot of non-western nations were relatively untouched by WW II culturally speaking. As a result, Hitler and the Nazis are viewed more as historical figures rather than monsters.

From Asia:
[www.cynical-c.com image 400x285]

But we have our own equivalent:

[www.sierraus.com image 607x407]

Genghis Khan was the Hitler of his time with Mongol conquests killing some 30-60 million people.


Too soon?
 
2012-08-29 06:38:42 PM  
I submitted it with a funnier headline, but I did nazi it posted.
 
2012-08-29 06:38:42 PM  

chuckufarlie: geoduck42: The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.

Indian troops fought in Europe. I have a hard time believing that he did not know. That swastika dotting the letter "I" gives it away, don't ya think?

He's lying like a rug.


I don't know. The ignorance of Indians seems to match that of Americans. I met a lower-level political staffer of the Congress Party who told me that the reason why the US was in decline was because the majority of Americans were black.
 
2012-08-29 06:38:57 PM  

Boudica's War Tampon: "People use such names mostly out of ignorance," Israel's Mumbai Consul General Orna Sagiv told AFP.

Then other times they call Palestinians "Arabs" to advance their own goals of military and political violence.


Palestinians are 90% ethnic Arab. Almost exactly as Arabic as Saudi Arabians.
 
2012-08-29 06:39:27 PM  
"He got the idea from a family nickname ...."

They've got an Auntie Hitler, too?
 
2012-08-29 06:39:58 PM  

Silly Jesus: This point made up-thread bears repeating...

Why is this ok?....
[www.sierraus.com image 607x407]

Is it simply too soon for a Hitler store? Is there something less evil about a guy who killed many many many more people than Hitler did?

WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?


Uh, yeah.....there are still living people all over the world who were either directly affected, or whose very recent ancestors were directly affected by the Nazis...the gates in front of the death camps haven't even rusted away yet. Not too hard to figure out the difference in outrage, jeenyus.
 
2012-08-29 06:40:02 PM  
6 million is just the number of Jews killed in the concentration camps. Total concentration camp deaths were between 11 and 17 million people. The war killed over 60 million people, over 2.5% of the world population. The Soviets lost 23 million people (most of them while fighting against the Nazi's although a small number would have been killed while allied with Germany). Even if you disregard all Germans killed fighting for the Nazis as Nazis who deserved to to die (which counts children soldiers in the mix) the Axis killed 30 million people IN EUROPE ALONE!
 
2012-08-29 06:42:10 PM  

HoratioGates: 6 million is just the number of Jews killed in the concentration camps. Total concentration camp deaths were between 11 and 17 million people. The war killed over 60 million people, over 2.5% of the world population. The Soviets lost 23 million people (most of them while fighting against the Nazi's although a small number would have been killed while allied with Germany). Even if you disregard all Germans killed fighting for the Nazis as Nazis who deserved to to die (which counts children soldiers in the mix) the Axis killed 30 million people IN EUROPE ALONE!



Which merits caps?
 
2012-08-29 06:44:49 PM  

I always find it weird that people will get outraged over wearing one mass murderer's image on a T-shirt


1.bp.blogspot.com


But think it's cool and trendy to wear another mass murderer's image on a T-shirt.

3.bp.blogspot.com


What's the criteria for determining which mass murderers are fashion safe and which ones aren't?
 
2012-08-29 06:46:14 PM  

Zulfikar: chuckufarlie: geoduck42: The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.

Indian troops fought in Europe. I have a hard time believing that he did not know. That swastika dotting the letter "I" gives it away, don't ya think?

He's lying like a rug.

I don't know. The ignorance of Indians seems to match that of Americans. I met a lower-level political staffer of the Congress Party who told me that the reason why the US was in decline was because the majority of Americans were black.


That's something that I love about the sub-continentals I've met: their hilarious combination of incurious ignorance and brain-defying racism. A Pakistani co-worker (one that had gone to school at McGill, the big university in Montreal) once introduced himself apologetically as "incredibly racist." Chill dude though, once you got over all the jokes about black people.
 
2012-08-29 06:46:53 PM  

Xenomech: What did Hitler do that was so bad anyway?


He was a teetotaling non-smoking vegetarian. You can't trust those people.
 
2012-08-29 06:47:46 PM  
Clothing store in India?

Call it "Cotton Gandhi".
 
2012-08-29 06:48:47 PM  

Ghastly: I always find it weird that people will get outraged over wearing one mass murderer's image on a T-shirt

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 341x450]


But think it's cool and trendy to wear another mass murderer's image on a T-shirt.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 443x599]


What's the criteria for determining which mass murderers are fashion safe and which ones aren't?



It isn't whether you offend, but WHO you offend that counts.


/Bew Hew
 
2012-08-29 06:48:59 PM  

a lion in a sidecar: BigNumber12: Atan: So others have used the term out of ignorance too. I fail to see your point.


That you're nitpicking my grammar rather than addressing my idea, and being something of a douche about it.

BigNumber12: Atan: So others have used the term out of ignorance too. I fail to see your point.


That you're nitpicking my grammar rather than addressing my idea, and being something of a douche about it.


Let's not go and start World War II over this.


I'm confused - is fighting allowed in a War Thread?
 
2012-08-29 06:50:23 PM  

chuckufarlie: Does he sell used clothes from Poland?



If he does he'd better fumigate them first.
 
2012-08-29 06:54:32 PM  

Boudica's War Tampon: peterthx: Silly Jesus: This point made up-thread bears repeating...

Why is this ok?....
[www.sierraus.com image 607x407]

Is it simply too soon for a Hitler store? Is there something less evil about a guy who killed many many many more people than Hitler did?

WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?

How about the fact that nobody even knows anyone who was living during that time?

That tends to happen after several centuries.

There's still plenty of people around that may not have been alive during WWII but have had close relatives that were.

/now where's my toga? I need to throw a party to celebrate an Empire built on lands taken by force and slavery.

Ask a Korean about the Hill of Ears. Then ask a Japanese about the Hill of Ears. That happened several hundred years ago.


Interesting point (seriously, that was a really interesting page)...but still not quite the same thing. Now if a third party had opened up a "Hill of Noses Tonsorial Parlor & Souvenir Shoppe" while plenty of surivivors were still around and near, I'm sure he could have expected some backlash....

...love your handle, BTW.
 
2012-08-29 06:55:26 PM  

Fark Me To Tears: FTFA: The owner of an Indian clothing store said Wednesday that he would only change its name from "Hitler" if he was compensated for re-branding costs, amid a growing row over the new shop.

The outlet, which sells Western men's wear, opened 10 days ago in Ahmedabad city in the western state of Gujarat with "Hitler" written in big letters over the front and with a Nazi swastika as the dot on the "i".

"I will change it (the name) if people want to compensate me for the money we have spent -- the logo, the hoarding, the business cards, the brand," Rajesh Shah told AFP.


Nope... tell you what... Why don't you just leave it alone? You're obviously too ignorant to understand the ramifications of your actions, so why should you have to deal with the consequences of that ignorance? I'm sure that if you continue on with this venture, people will eventually understand. After all, why should a businessman have to pay to correct his own incredibly stupid mistake?



Just leave it like it is. His customers will vote with their dollars

/Or rupees, as it were
 
2012-08-29 06:56:01 PM  
"I will change it (the name) if people want to compensate me for the money we have spent -- the logo, the hoarding, the business cards, the brand," Rajesh Shah told AFP."

I have a feeling people will just keep their money and this issue will take care of itself.
 
2012-08-29 06:56:05 PM  

Medic Zero: TheDirtyNacho: geoduck42: The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.


It is believable. A lot of non-western nations were relatively untouched by WW II culturally speaking. As a result, Hitler and the Nazis are viewed more as historical figures rather than monsters.

From Asia:
[www.cynical-c.com image 400x285]

But we have our own equivalent:

[www.sierraus.com image 607x407]

Genghis Khan was the Hitler of his time with Mongol conquests killing some 30-60 million people.

Too soon?


No, first we have to have a "discussion" about how more atheists killed people than Christians.
 
2012-08-29 06:56:11 PM  
FTFA: The owner of an Indian clothing store said Wednesday that he would only change its name from "Hitler" if he was compensated for re-branding costs, amid a growing row over the new shop.

The outlet, which sells Western men's wear, opened 10 days ago in Ahmedabad city in the western state of Gujarat with "Hitler" written in big letters over the front and with a Nazi swastika as the dot on the "i".

"I will change it (the name) if people want to compensate me for the money we have spent -- the logo, the hoarding, the business cards, the brand," Rajesh Shah told AFP.


laist.com

Nods at your trolling-for-fun-and-profit plan.
 
2012-08-29 06:59:02 PM  

Rip Dashrock: I have no idea why there are U.S. troops in Afghanistan.
Other than the poppy trade.



You don't know why U.S. troops are still in Afghanistan, or why they ever went their in the first place? Most Afghans fall solidly into that second category, and they literally don't know why.
 
2012-08-29 07:00:44 PM  
This place is the only place I can find that sells Pol Pottery.
 
2012-08-29 07:03:37 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

IT"S NOT HITLER IT"S HISTER!!!!!!

static.bbc.co.uk 


AARGH EEGAL A SHEEBAN
 
2012-08-29 07:06:18 PM  

peterthx: Canned Tamales: super_grass: But... but... but people wear Che T-shirts all the time, why would ANYONE get upset over Hitler?

I've noticed something interesting (and sometimes hilarious)....the people who get all butthurt about anything that glorifies Che, or Castro, or currently Chavez, are pretty much the same people who sometimes like to talk about all the political policies Hitler got right, and how under Mussolini, at least the trains ran on time....

[citation needed]


I'm sorry, I can't "cite a reference" to my own personal experiences, dipshiat, excpet to recall that they happened.

The last time I heard somebody defend some of Hitler's far-right political ideals, the same conversation turned to modern American politics. The other person went off on how people "worshipped" Obama....to him, it really did seem like "worship", and of course, completely unreasonable and unearned. I pointed out that the same was very much true, if not moreso, about Reagan. He could not see the comparison at all, even though he had three Reagan posters/pictures in his office, yet was only in grade school when Reagan was in office, and couldn't tell me any hard facts about what Reagan had done to "earn" all the praise....

sorry, again, no "citations". Just a lifetime of not being a blind dipshiat.


.
 
2012-08-29 07:09:00 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: Genghis Khan was the Hitler of his time with Mongol conquests killing some 30-60 million people.


www.movieactors.com

Wow.
 
2012-08-29 07:10:48 PM  
And the NAZI swastika was also just a coincidence.
 
2012-08-29 07:15:41 PM  

stuffy: And the NAZI swastika was also just a coincidence.


it's a product of the jew run society obviously
 
2012-08-29 07:15:47 PM  

TheDirtyNacho:
It is believable. A lot of non-western nations were relatively untouched by WW II culturally speaking.


Not so much that they were untouched by WWII culturally speaking but were untouched by WWII Germany. There are a lot of parts of Asia that still have a very negative view of Japan due to WWII. When I was in Singapore my guide practically spit in disgust any time the "J-word" came up.
 
2012-08-29 07:17:06 PM  

GoldDude: Maybe he could rename the store "Hilter", yes??
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 288x203]


How about the Fascist Cafe? Why would he want to go to Stalingrad?

/He's right you know.


/Best skit they ever ran.
 
2012-08-29 07:18:37 PM  

stuffy: And the NAZI swastika was also just a coincidence.


In all fairness the swastika does not mean the same thing in Asia as it does in the west. There it's still very much a symbol for luck and prosperity. When I was last in India I would shower with Swastika Brand soap.
 
2012-08-29 07:20:44 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: geoduck42: The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.


It is believable. A lot of non-western nations were relatively untouched by WW II culturally speaking. As a result, Hitler and the Nazis are viewed more as historical figures rather than monsters.

From Asia:
[www.cynical-c.com image 400x285]

But we have our own equivalent:

[www.sierraus.com image 607x407]

Genghis Khan was the Hitler of his time with Mongol conquests killing some 30-60 million people.


More like naming your business after Hirohito, he is more recent, but yeah.
 
2012-08-29 07:24:24 PM  

Ghastly: I always find it weird that people will get outraged over wearing one mass murderer's image on a T-shirt

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 341x450]


But think it's cool and trendy to wear another mass murderer's image on a T-shirt.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 443x599]


What's the criteria for determining which mass murderers are fashion safe and which ones aren't?


It's the berret.
 
2012-08-29 07:25:14 PM  

Ghastly: What's the criteria for determining which mass murderers are fashion safe and which ones aren't?


The mustache
 
2012-08-29 07:27:31 PM  
Um,

I think I read this guy "didn't realize" he was ripping off the most reviled regime in history to date...

I call bullshiat.

He knew exactly what he was doing, e-peeps.

;)
 
2012-08-29 07:30:00 PM  

HoratioGates: 6 million is just the number of Jews killed in the concentration camps. Total concentration camp deaths were between 11 and 17 million people. The war killed over 60 million people, over 2.5% of the world population. The Soviets lost 23 million people (most of them while fighting against the Nazi's although a small number would have been killed while allied with Germany). Even if you disregard all Germans killed fighting for the Nazis as Nazis who deserved to to die (which counts children soldiers in the mix) the Axis killed 30 million people IN EUROPE ALONE!


And Stalin killed 20 million in RUSSIA ALONE all by himself, what' s your point?

Not all German soldiers deserved to die; hell, ANY soldier in ANY conflict doesn't deserve to die any more than any civilian in any conflict. It's the nature of conflict. There are no "bad" wars or "good" wars. In all wars, lots of people die, and people do their memories a great disservice, imo, by trying to say that somehow the dead killed by Nazis merit more sympathy than the Nazis killed by Soviets.
 
2012-08-29 07:31:20 PM  

peterthx: /now where's my toga? I need to throw a party to celebrate an Empire built on lands taken by force and slavery.


Isn't that every empire that existed anywhere on the planet?
 
2012-08-29 07:33:53 PM  

Gyrfalcon: HoratioGates: 6 million is just the number of Jews killed in the concentration camps. Total concentration camp deaths were between 11 and 17 million people. The war killed over 60 million people, over 2.5% of the world population. The Soviets lost 23 million people (most of them while fighting against the Nazi's although a small number would have been killed while allied with Germany). Even if you disregard all Germans killed fighting for the Nazis as Nazis who deserved to to die (which counts children soldiers in the mix) the Axis killed 30 million people IN EUROPE ALONE!

And Stalin killed 20 million in RUSSIA ALONE all by himself, what' s your point?

Not all German soldiers deserved to die; hell, ANY soldier in ANY conflict doesn't deserve to die any more than any civilian in any conflict. It's the nature of conflict. There are no "bad" wars or "good" wars. In all wars, lots of people die, and people do their memories a great disservice, imo, by trying to say that somehow the dead killed by Nazis merit more sympathy than the Nazis killed by Soviets.



The teeth...

I can hear them gnashing from here.
 
2012-08-29 07:36:05 PM  
I know a guy whose last name is Hittler. His family was very clever by adding the extra 'T' so nobody would confuse them with HItler.
 
2012-08-29 07:39:27 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Branbot: Isn't the backwards swastika a sign of peace and prosperity in India?

[farm6.staticflickr.com image 520x549]


and the chinese symbol for "expensive" and "respected" is an asshole wearing a hat, buttoned shirt, sash, clean pants and shoes.
 
2012-08-29 07:47:50 PM  

Amos Quito: Gyrfalcon: HoratioGates: 6 million is just the number of Jews killed in the concentration camps. Total concentration camp deaths were between 11 and 17 million people. The war killed over 60 million people, over 2.5% of the world population. The Soviets lost 23 million people (most of them while fighting against the Nazi's although a small number would have been killed while allied with Germany). Even if you disregard all Germans killed fighting for the Nazis as Nazis who deserved to to die (which counts children soldiers in the mix) the Axis killed 30 million people IN EUROPE ALONE!

And Stalin killed 20 million in RUSSIA ALONE all by himself, what' s your point?

Not all German soldiers deserved to die; hell, ANY soldier in ANY conflict doesn't deserve to die any more than any civilian in any conflict. It's the nature of conflict. There are no "bad" wars or "good" wars. In all wars, lots of people die, and people do their memories a great disservice, imo, by trying to say that somehow the dead killed by Nazis merit more sympathy than the Nazis killed by Soviets.


The teeth...

I can hear them gnashing from here.


Let them gnash. As long as I don't use any mean names, I'm safe.
 
2012-08-29 07:53:11 PM  
I usually shop at Himmlers anyways.
 
2012-08-29 07:58:24 PM  
So if he would change his business model from selling clothing to building highways it would be ok, right?

Or maybe he could open a Tata dealership. It's India's Volkswagen.
 
2012-08-29 08:01:21 PM  

give me doughnuts: peterthx: /now where's my toga? I need to throw a party to celebrate an Empire built on lands taken by force and slavery.

Isn't that every empire that existed anywhere on the planet?


Yes.

P.S. Wow, it's you, the mythical gmd...*agape*
 
2012-08-29 08:05:08 PM  
CSB time:

A few years ago a little sandwich shop near my place got bought up by a family newly arrived from India. I had been a regular there for a while and continued to be after they converted the place to an indian take-out. As you would expect, I got to know them a bit and they seemed like a great family: Father and his brother were both engineers by training, the mother was an amazing cook and mostly ran the place, and the daughter was a bit of a ditz but really just a typical teenager.

Then one day last year, I walk into the place and they've covered everything with swastikas. Now I know the difference between the buddhist swastika and the german one, and these were all the buddhist kind - except for the enormous Nazi flag on the wall behind the cash register. So I asked the guy about it, and he explains the buddhist symbolism. Then I explain why that one is different, and why he really wants to take it down right now. 

They guy was just dumbstruck. He had never heard of Hitler or the Nazis, was only vaguely aware of WWII and had no idea which side we fought on. Had never heard of the holocaust either. I asked him where he even got it from, Nazi flags not being something you can generally pick up at WalMart, and he said he got it off the internet - for free no less. Probably off a white supremacist website.

/end CSB
 
2012-08-29 08:05:41 PM  
Hey, even the Germans have denounced Hilter:
i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-08-29 08:18:49 PM  

Xenomech: What did Hitler do that was so bad anyway?


He ruined the square moustache. It's probably the worst thing he's ever done.
 
2012-08-29 08:20:27 PM  
All this and his excuse is that he did nazi it coming?

Seriously, how can you not know about Hitler? It's like not knowing about Mao or Pol Pot.
 
2012-08-29 08:22:02 PM  

Ghastly: I always find it weird that people will get outraged over wearing one mass murderer's image on a T-shirt

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 341x450]


But think it's cool and trendy to wear another mass murderer's image on a T-shirt.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 443x599]


What's the criteria for determining which mass murderers are fashion safe and which ones aren't?


Well, for a start I'm not aware that Che Guevara not only killed about 10 million people, but in fact had a plan to eliminate one ethnicity from the earth almost completely. Perhaps you can help me with those things.
 
2012-08-29 08:27:07 PM  

clevershark: All this and his excuse is that he did nazi it coming?

Seriously, how can you not know about Hitler? It's like not knowing about Mao or Pol Pot.



Who?
 
2012-08-29 08:29:17 PM  
t3.gstatic.com
 
2012-08-29 08:43:00 PM  
Hey, Hitler, how high does the grass grow in Germany?
i1245.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-29 08:43:49 PM  
Idiot. With this brand name he should be specializing in furnitures. Really, he should be selling chairs, pretty kampfy chairs.
 
2012-08-29 08:46:17 PM  
He's misunderstood, 'das all.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-29 08:58:08 PM  
i.imgur.com

I'd love a Ghandi t-shirt.
 
2012-08-29 09:04:27 PM  

Canned Tamales: super_grass: But... but... but people wear Che T-shirts all the time, why would ANYONE get upset over Hitler?

I've noticed something interesting (and sometimes hilarious)....the people who get all butthurt about anything that glorifies Che, or Castro, or currently Chavez, are pretty much the same people who sometimes like to talk about all the political policies Hitler got right, and how under Mussolini, at least the trains ran on time....


"I do not want to see the allies defeated. But I do not consider Hitler to be as bad as he is depicted. He is showing an ability that is amazing and seems to be gaining his victories without much bloodshed."

Mohandas Gandhi, May 1940
 
2012-08-29 09:09:18 PM  

LineNoise: suit


NO SUIT FOR YOU!!!

img96.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-29 09:19:11 PM  

clevershark: Ghastly: I always find it weird that people will get outraged over wearing one mass murderer's image on a T-shirt

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 341x450]


But think it's cool and trendy to wear another mass murderer's image on a T-shirt.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 443x599]


What's the criteria for determining which mass murderers are fashion safe and which ones aren't?

Well, for a start I'm not aware that Che Guevara not only killed about 10 million people, but in fact had a plan to eliminate one ethnicity from the earth almost completely. Perhaps you can help me with those things.


Plus, Guevara wasn't the leader of a military force capable of taking on entire continents, much less Chancellor of a large nation. Yes, Guevara killed a lot of people, including his own officers; but he's not quite in Hitler's league either in his kill-ratio or his ideology.

Trying to make fine distinctions between various killers is, however, an exercise in futility. Was Pol Pot better or worse than Stalin and if so why? Answer in 25 words or less. I mean, really.
 
2012-08-29 09:29:46 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Was Pol Pot better or worse than Stalin and if so why? Answer in 25 words or less. I mean, really.


t0.gstatic.com
 
2012-08-29 09:32:33 PM  

BigNumber12: Shah insisted that until the store opened he did not know who Adolf Hitler was and that Hitler was a nickname given to the grandfather of his store partner because "he was very strict".

"I didn't know how much the name would disturb people," he told AFP by telephone from Ahmedabad. "It was only when the store opened I learnt Hitler had killed six million people."


Looks like you've got a bit more reading to do...


I think he knows who Hitler was, he's just a moron trying to get some free publicity and money
 
2012-08-29 09:35:05 PM  

give me doughnuts: peterthx: /now where's my toga? I need to throw a party to celebrate an Empire built on lands taken by force and slavery.

Isn't that every empire that existed anywhere on the planet?


How many empires inspired toga parties though?
 
2012-08-29 09:38:45 PM  

Canned Tamales: sorry, again, no "citations". Just a lifetime of not being a blind dipshiat.


Just a regular dipshiat then...who sees and hears what he wants to, facts be damned.
 
2012-08-29 09:39:32 PM  

Silly Jesus: This point made up-thread bears repeating...

Why is this ok?....


Is it simply too soon for a Hitler store? Is there something less evil about a guy who killed many many many more people than Hitler did?

WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?


Good point.
Remember; as long as you kill less people than Ghengis Khan....it's cool
 
2012-08-29 09:42:40 PM  

peterthx: Silly Jesus: This point made up-thread bears repeating...

Why is this ok?....
[www.sierraus.com image 607x407]

Is it simply too soon for a Hitler store? Is there something less evil about a guy who killed many many many more people than Hitler did?

WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?

How about the fact that nobody even knows anyone who was living during that time?

That tends to happen after several centuries.

There's still plenty of people around that may not have been alive during WWII but have had close relatives that were.

/now where's my toga? I need to throw a party to celebrate an Empire built on lands taken by force and slavery.


Just had dinner with a lovely gentleman and his wife who lived through Therezin. Their stories would break your heart, you smug little prick.
 
2012-08-29 09:42:42 PM  

Amos Quito: Gyrfalcon: Was Pol Pot better or worse than Stalin and if so why? Answer in 25 words or less. I mean, really.

[t0.gstatic.com image 262x192]


Me likee.
;)
 
2012-08-29 09:53:52 PM  

bizzwire:
Just had dinner with a lovely gentleman and his wife who lived through Therezin. Their stories would break your heart, you smug little prick.


Sarcasm, you missed it by a mile.

/thanks for making my point for me though
 
2012-08-29 09:58:17 PM  

Gyrfalcon: clevershark: Ghastly: I always find it weird that people will get outraged over wearing one mass murderer's image on a T-shirt

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 341x450]


But think it's cool and trendy to wear another mass murderer's image on a T-shirt.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 443x599]


What's the criteria for determining which mass murderers are fashion safe and which ones aren't?

Well, for a start I'm not aware that Che Guevara not only killed about 10 million people, but in fact had a plan to eliminate one ethnicity from the earth almost completely. Perhaps you can help me with those things.

Plus, Guevara wasn't the leader of a military force capable of taking on entire continents, much less Chancellor of a large nation. Yes, Guevara killed a lot of people, including his own officers; but he's not quite in Hitler's league either in his kill-ratio or his ideology.


Basically the difference between Che and Hitler boils down to as outlined above, means and targets. If Che had the military might to have been as big a killer as Hitler I have no doubt that he would have been.

Also most of the people Hitler killed were white, most of the people Che killed were brown (both facts somewhat ironic considering their individual ideologies.) So its not surprising that in the white dominated parts of the world where there is a decent chance somone either knows or is related to somone who had to fight and/or die against the Nazis Hitler is more reviled.
 
2012-08-29 10:09:04 PM  

Greymalkin: Basically the difference between Che and Hitler boils down to as outlined above, means and targets. If Che had the military might to have been as big a killer as Hitler I have no doubt that he would have been.

Also most of the people Hitler killed were white, most of the people Che killed were brown (both facts somewhat ironic considering their individual ideologies.) So its not surprising that in the white dominated parts of the world where there is a decent chance somone either knows or is related to somone who had to fight and/or die against the Nazis Hitler is more reviled.


Another difference is Che personally murdered his political enemies while Hitler had others do the dirty work.
 
2012-08-29 10:14:56 PM  
Heil Hipster.

/don't mention the war
 
2012-08-29 10:16:39 PM  
www.republicofcode.com
 
2012-08-29 10:26:07 PM  
To be honest I can believe it. I grew up in India and I didn't know who he was until I moved to the US. The name may have sounded familiar but I wouldn't have been able to tell you more than that. WWII wasn't mentioned at all really - the Indian independence movement was in full swing then and that's what was mainly taught. The main fighting which was mentioned were the Indians who fought against the British (on the side of the Japanese).

I'm sure it would have been mentioned eventually if I had stayed longer but the name just doesn't mean what it does over there.

I am not defending him because he may very well have known, but depending on his education, it's at least plausible that he's telling the truth. Not an excuse anymore mind you - now that he knows, he should apologize immediately and change it.
 
2012-08-29 10:28:55 PM  

peterthx: bizzwire:
Just had dinner with a lovely gentleman and his wife who lived through Therezin. Their stories would break your heart, you smug little prick.

Sarcasm, you missed it by a mile.

/thanks for making my point for me though


Sorry...my Sacasmotron2000 has been a little off-kilter.

/climbing off high horse
 
2012-08-29 10:49:09 PM  

bizzwire: Sorry...my Sacasmotron2000 has been a little off-kilter.

/climbing off high horse


No problem :-)
Took a course on the Holocaust in High School. Nothing more chilling than the stories told by living survivors. Nothing more enraging than encountering those who try to minimize or deny what happened.
 
2012-08-29 10:49:40 PM  
Born in India came stateside 2003.

Know exactly why it's not shocking. But people are fonna get all sensitive so ima shutting up.
 
2012-08-29 10:54:30 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: Genghis Khan was the Hitler of his time with Mongol conquests killing some 30-60 million people.


And yet Mongolians love him. Chinggis Khaan [Genghis Khan] is revered as a hero in Mongolia. Their one international airport they renamed in 2005 to "Chinggis Khaan International Airport" in his honor.

But then again, Mongolians are also surprisingly fond of Hitler, so go figure.

As an aside, Explaining Hitler looks pretty interesting.
 
2012-08-29 11:04:23 PM  

ciberido: TheDirtyNacho: Genghis Khan was the Hitler of his time with Mongol conquests killing some 30-60 million people.

And yet Mongolians love him. Chinggis Khaan [Genghis Khan] is revered as a hero in Mongolia. Their one international airport they renamed in 2005 to "Chinggis Khaan International Airport" in his honor.

But then again, Mongolians are also surprisingly fond of Hitler, so go figure.

As an aside, Explaining Hitler looks pretty interesting.


It's funny how history works. Depending on who writes what and when... over the centuries Khan went from being a conquering marauder to an emblem of heroic strength. I wonder what those Mongols think happened when he "conquered the world"

I don't think that will happen with Hitler though. Technology helps ensure that the texts and content of the era are preserved such that rewriting Hitler's legacy into a story like Khans would seem unlikely.
 
2012-08-29 11:15:28 PM  
Anybody who can find some equivalence between Uncle A and Che in earnest is institution-worthy or world-class ignorant. Inclusive or.

The Khmer Rouge were nutty kids. They may have been made nutty by having a WWII-load of bombs dropped on their little country by Sam just prior. They had very little serious ideology.

Stalin (see Khrushchev's repudiation) was a prick, but the Kulaks could have capitulated to collectivization and ended the famine. The purges happened because Stalin had a rational, though over-expressed, need to purge fifth-columnists prior to the pending NAZI invasion. In the case of the purge of the officers, he was tricked by German intelligence. Stalin slept at night, because he knew in the end that he met the responsibility of freeing Europe from Uncle A.

Oh, and Hitler was out to purge more than one ethnicity, by the numbers he did a better job on the Roma than the Jews, the cowardly dreck-lump.
 
2012-08-29 11:16:55 PM  

postnobills: CSB time:

A few years ago a little sandwich shop near my place got bought up by a family newly arrived from India. I had been a regular there for a while and continued to be after they converted the place to an indian take-out. As you would expect, I got to know them a bit and they seemed like a great family: Father and his brother were both engineers by training, the mother was an amazing cook and mostly ran the place, and the daughter was a bit of a ditz but really just a typical teenager.

Then one day last year, I walk into the place and they've covered everything with swastikas. Now I know the difference between the buddhist swastika and the german one, and these were all the buddhist kind - except for the enormous Nazi flag on the wall behind the cash register. So I asked the guy about it, and he explains the buddhist symbolism. Then I explain why that one is different, and why he really wants to take it down right now. 

They guy was just dumbstruck. He had never heard of Hitler or the Nazis, was only vaguely aware of WWII and had no idea which side we fought on. Had never heard of the holocaust either. I asked him where he even got it from, Nazi flags not being something you can generally pick up at WalMart, and he said he got it off the internet - for free no less. Probably off a white supremacist website.

/end CSB


India fought in WWII as part of the British as it was not yet independent. While a sizable number of Indians did participate, it was not a great part of the entire population and certainly didn't really touch the rural areas where most lived. It was not an entire nation at war kind of thing that leads to long memories and yearly history lessons. Also at the same time was the independence movement, which had a far greater impact on the country than Hitler did.
 
2012-08-29 11:34:58 PM  

peterthx: Greymalkin: Basically the difference between Che and Hitler boils down to as outlined above, means and targets. If Che had the military might to have been as big a killer as Hitler I have no doubt that he would have been.

Also most of the people Hitler killed were white, most of the people Che killed were brown (both facts somewhat ironic considering their individual ideologies.) So its not surprising that in the white dominated parts of the world where there is a decent chance somone either knows or is related to somone who had to fight and/or die against the Nazis Hitler is more reviled.

Another difference is Che personally murdered his political enemies while Hitler had others do the dirty work.


Both good points. Guevara is not widely loved in Bolivia, I would guess.
 
2012-08-29 11:39:55 PM  
The Khmer Rouge were frighteningly efficient at killing people. It only took them about 2 years to wipe out a quarter of the population. Even Mao was jealous, even though he's the all-time leader in terms of sheer numbers (70+ million).
 
2012-08-29 11:49:01 PM  
strongbeerrules
Xenomech: What did Hitler do that was so bad anyway?
He was a teetotaling non-smoking vegetarian. You can't trust those people.

For the record, I believe he was a speedfreak.

/Not that he was pure evil, more the embodiment of banal evil always there that went horribly wrong.
 
2012-08-29 11:51:25 PM  

clevershark: The Khmer Rouge were frighteningly efficient at killing people. It only took them about 2 years to wipe out a quarter of the population. Even Mao was jealous, even though he's the all-time leader in terms of sheer numbers (70+ million).


Some of Mao's killing wasn't done with intent...just stupidity. The Great Leap Forward wasn't INTENDED to kill large numbers of people, but the resulting famines guaranteed that lots of people would die. The same cannot be said, of course, for the Cultural Revolution; and killing people because nobody in your Central Committee will say "Uh, you know, Chairman, if everyone is making steel, who will grow the food?" is not any better for the dead people.

The Khmer Rouge meant to kill every single person who died in the killing fields, and they would have been happier if there had been a whole lot more.
 
2012-08-29 11:57:21 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Some of Mao's killing wasn't done with intent...just stupidity.


True, but Mao truly gave no shiats about how many people died of his actions.

Hell, he wanted to kick-start a nuclear war by nuking Taiwan, drawing the United States into retaliation, because he felt that even if half of China's population died tomorrow they could just make more.

That sort of depraved indifference isn't substantially different from intent in my view. If I decide to bomb some house one day I may not be specifically intending to kill the people inside, but I know that if I go ahead the people inside will die. I am no less culpable. That's why I don't buy the "collateral damage" bullshiat that everyone seems to accept so readily.
 
2012-08-29 11:59:16 PM  

Gyrfalcon: The Khmer Rouge meant to kill every single person who died in the killing fields, and they would have been happier if there had been a whole lot more.


Actually, again the Khmer Rouge didn't go out and shoot/torture everyone (although they're probably record-setters in that). Most people who died under their regime died of exposure, malnutrition, simple diseases and exhaustion while working on Pol Pot's pet projects in countryside.
 
2012-08-29 11:59:19 PM  
Fame is what he wanted so lets deny his wish. From how on we should call him Sideshow Hitler.
 
2012-08-30 12:09:51 AM  

bizzwire: peterthx: Silly Jesus: This point made up-thread bears repeating...

Why is this ok?....
[www.sierraus.com image 607x407]

Is it simply too soon for a Hitler store? Is there something less evil about a guy who killed many many many more people than Hitler did?

WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE?

How about the fact that nobody even knows anyone who was living during that time?

That tends to happen after several centuries.

There's still plenty of people around that may not have been alive during WWII but have had close relatives that were.

/now where's my toga? I need to throw a party to celebrate an Empire built on lands taken by force and slavery.

Just had dinner with a lovely gentleman and his wife who lived through Therezin. Their stories would break your heart, you smug little prick.


I watched the PBS documentary on Kurt Gerron. What a sad story. Jeebus.
 
Oak
2012-08-30 12:42:04 AM  
I still don't like the sound of these here boncentration bamps.
 
2012-08-30 12:43:38 AM  
"Yes MEIN FUHRER! hahaha, I mean, mein dicky old chum!"
 
2012-08-30 12:45:18 AM  

GoldDude: Maybe he could rename the store "Hilter", yes??


Not much fun in Ahmedabad, either.
 
2012-08-30 01:12:35 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: Branbot: Isn't the backwards swastika a sign of peace and prosperity in India?

[farm6.staticflickr.com image 520x549]


100% wrong but I guess it makes people feel better to think the nazi Swastika is different then what the Buddhist..etc use.
 
2012-08-30 01:33:30 AM  
www.fuhrer-gartenbau.ch
 
2012-08-30 01:36:51 AM  

clevershark: Gyrfalcon: The Khmer Rouge meant to kill every single person who died in the killing fields, and they would have been happier if there had been a whole lot more.

Actually, again the Khmer Rouge didn't go out and shoot/torture everyone (although they're probably record-setters in that). Most people who died under their regime died of exposure, malnutrition, simple diseases and exhaustion while working on Pol Pot's pet projects in countryside.


Pol Pot got his ideas, as far as I can tell, from Stalin's Gulags. Collect all your "dissidents", put them to work in remote places on impossible tasks, and feed them water and dough (the Gulag) or grass (the Khmer Rouge), and you don't need to torture and kill anyone. They will die almost faster than they can be replaced. Starving people slowly to death is probably crueler than just lining them up against the wall and shooting them. The Khmer Rouge, like Stalin, definitely intended that everyone in the camps die as quickly as possible, having gotten as much work out of them as you can get out of dying bodies.
 
2012-08-30 02:19:58 AM  
Who cares? Now if it was the Hitler Bakery or Hitler Gas Works then I could see it being maybe a tad offensive. Israel needs to clean the sand out of its vagina.
 
2012-08-30 02:57:56 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Was Pol Pot better or worse than Stalin and if so why?


Are you asking Pol Pot, hot or not?
 
2012-08-30 03:49:48 AM  
Xenomech


2012-08-29 05:02:29 PM

What did Hitler do that was so bad anyway?


Called Churchill "A big fatty"!
 
2012-08-30 04:13:29 AM  

Ghastly: Gyrfalcon: Was Pol Pot better or worse than Stalin and if so why?

Are you asking Pol Pot, hot or not?


Only Ghastly would use "Pol Pot" in this kind of sentence.

+1 internets and some grass and water.
You may take that however you like.
The grass, I mean.
 
2012-08-30 06:34:04 AM  
Not a single one, anyone ?
Not yet ?
www.awg.musin.de
 
2012-08-30 07:02:00 AM  
Using the name Hitler for clothing is absurd. Now if the guy was selling ovens....
 
2012-08-30 09:47:44 AM  

geoduck42: The store-owner is quoted as claiming that he didn't know who Hitler was, and got the idea from a family nickname. This is India and not Europe or the US, but still.. if he's telling the truth.. wow.


He is, apparently.
My boss is from India. He says they don't learn anything about WWII there.
He only knew it happened because he saw a documentary that mentioned it, and that wasn't until the 10th grade.

That's messed up.
 
2012-08-30 11:51:08 AM  

ds615: He is, apparently.
My boss is from India. He says they don't learn anything about WWII there.
He only knew it happened because he saw a documentary that mentioned it, and that wasn't until the 10th grade.


I'm Indian, and I can agree they don't really know about WWII (or any world history for that matter). My own parents, who have been living in the US for 30+ years, kind of know about WWII since coming to America, but I don't think they still fully grasp the level of genocide that occurred. They do however have an abnormal obsession with Hitler. I see a lot of Nazi flag paraphernalia and issues of Mein Kampf. Apparently, they only see Hitler as a powerful leader. It is REALLY bizarre, but I haven't heard many complaints not even the Jewish Indians.
 
Displayed 206 of 206 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »
Advertisement
On Twitter





In Other Media


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report