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2012-08-29 01:51:07 PM
Builds whatever a spider-bot builds...
 
2012-08-29 02:00:37 PM
These are the types of thinks I think about when I try to picture "the future".

Not so much Ow, My Balls.
 
2012-08-29 02:13:42 PM
Fused deposition modeling would be a GREAT fricken thing to use in space! I kind of wonder how hard it would be to do in zero gee but hey, not my problem.
 
2012-08-29 02:23:40 PM
This is new?

i30.photobucket.com

Grumman came up with a beam-builder back in the '80s, somewhat akin to a seamless gutter forming machine.
 
2012-08-29 02:48:10 PM
SH10151?

You better be sure before you leave me for another one.
 
2012-08-29 02:50:37 PM

Any Pie Left: Builds whatever a spider-bot builds...


Spider-bot, spider-bot
Builds whatever a spider ought.
 
2012-08-29 02:54:18 PM
www.cyberpunkreview.com
 
2012-08-29 02:54:51 PM

Ranger Joe: This is new?

[i30.photobucket.com image 601x481]

Grumman came up with a beam-builder back in the '80s, somewhat akin to a seamless gutter forming machine.


Problem is that only makes beams and they have more varied structures in mind.

/Just drop a 3d printer on the moon already.
/Cheaper to launch satellites and space stations from low gravity.
 
2012-08-29 02:57:42 PM
...and by "launch", I mean putting it on a lunar space elevator.

dl.dropbox.com
 
2012-08-29 03:05:11 PM
If you did put a manufacturing plant at the end of a space-elevator then all you would have to do to put the finished product into orbit would be to let go...
 
2012-08-29 03:07:32 PM
Hasn't Apple patented this already?
 
2012-08-29 03:42:40 PM
I don't think it worked out too well for the Hutt when he tried building the Darksaber
 
2012-08-29 03:48:31 PM

dready zim: If you did put a manufacturing plant at the end of a space-elevator then all you would have to do to put the finished product into orbit would be to let go...


Kim Stanley Robinson did a variation of this. He basically put a replicator factory on one of Mars' moons and had it construct enough fiber to snare Mons Olympus and complete a space elevator. After that it was simply landing on the moon of Mars rather than dealing with landing on Mars itself. He also had it dropping small windmills by the thousands onto the surface, The blades were attached to a heating coil, it slowed the wind and heated the atmosphere at the same time.
 
2012-08-29 03:56:41 PM
Girion47
Kim Stanley Robinson did a variation of this. He basically put a replicator factory on one of Mars' moons and had it construct enough fiber to snare Mons Olympus and complete a space elevator. After that it was simply landing on the moon of Mars rather than dealing with landing on Mars itself. He also had it dropping small windmills by the thousands onto the surface, The blades were attached to a heating coil, it slowed the wind and heated the atmosphere at the same time

Pity Olympus Mons isn't on the equator.

I read the _colour_ Mars series. The ideas were neat, the writing was awful.
 
2012-08-29 03:58:15 PM

way south: Ranger Joe: This is new?

[i30.photobucket.com image 601x481]

Grumman came up with a beam-builder back in the '80s, somewhat akin to a seamless gutter forming machine.

Problem is that only makes beams and they have more varied structures in mind.

/Just drop a 3d printer on the moon already.
/Cheaper to launch satellites and space stations from low gravity.


Just don't have it print replicators. Then you'll wind up with machine-AIDS, mechanical-ARTS, slave-masters, a "prospector's" store, and then they'll go and try to eat the French Lunar base.
 
2012-08-29 04:24:05 PM

grinding_journalist: These are the types of thinks I think about when I try to picture "the future".

Not so much Ow, My Balls.


High tensile and compressive strength materials.... SpiderFap?
 
2012-08-29 04:27:58 PM

Bondith: Girion47
Kim Stanley Robinson did a variation of this. He basically put a replicator factory on one of Mars' moons and had it construct enough fiber to snare Mons Olympus and complete a space elevator. After that it was simply landing on the moon of Mars rather than dealing with landing on Mars itself. He also had it dropping small windmills by the thousands onto the surface, The blades were attached to a heating coil, it slowed the wind and heated the atmosphere at the same time

Pity Olympus Mons isn't on the equator.

I read the _colour_ Mars series. The ideas were neat, the writing was awful.


I agree, the plot was terrible, but the methods he suggested for terraforming seemed plausible enough they were fun to day dream about.
 
2012-08-29 04:37:52 PM

Any Pie Left: Builds whatever a spider-bot builds...



media.tumblr.com
 
2012-08-29 05:58:21 PM
This is why we should abandon plans for manned flights to Mars in favor of putting a permanent station on the Moon that can shoot aluminum into orbit/loft an elevator.

- 3 days away instead of 6-18 months
- unlimited oxygen, aluminum and other valuable in the regolith
- gateway to the outer planets and eventually missions to the stars 

images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-08-29 06:21:16 PM

Bot v2.38beta: SH10151?

You better be sure before you leave me for another one.


Niiiiiice.
 
2012-08-29 06:36:11 PM
There was a video game in the late 80's, you were a scientist and your mind was put into the body of a small robot spider. You had to fight all the bugs in the lab. I cannot remember the name of this, can anyone help? It was a DOS Game.
 
2012-08-29 06:50:09 PM

Bot v2.38beta: SH10151?

You better be sure before you leave me for another one.


Prophet 60091 boarding at Gate 4, Prophet 60091 now boarding.
 
2012-08-29 08:19:34 PM

way south: /Just drop a 3d printer on the moon already.


"delusional" doesn't even begin to cover that idea...

Anyways, back when I was a drooling idiot, this seemed feasible:
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-08-29 08:19:46 PM

StoneColdAtheist: This is why we should abandon plans for manned flights to Mars in favor of putting a permanent station on the Moon that can shoot aluminum into orbit/loft an elevator.

- 3 days away instead of 6-18 months
- unlimited oxygen, aluminum and other valuable in the regolith
- gateway to the outer planets and eventually missions to the stars 

[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 340x191]


It is also a valuable testing ground for new off world surface equipment, none of which has been fielded to date. There are big concerns about the interaction of regolith with this machinery and its been forty years since they last made anything similar. So all of the old moon suits and rover designs are either outdated or lost to history.

They had planned to turn the moon into the first stop for testing all future missions, and then...

dl.dropbox.com

/Politicians are idiots.
/Hopefully the Newspace companies involved will ignore the politics and do things right.
/Unfortunately, government is the source of the seed money. Its going to be a rough start till these ventures can fund themselves.
 
2012-08-29 08:30:51 PM

way south: /Politicians are idiots.


But so far, they're the only ones who did land anything on the Moon, not your precious companies.

way south: /Hopefully the Newspace companies involved will ignore the politics and do things right.


Yes, just like they did in the '70s with OTRAG. Or the Japanese Space Hotel of 1997. Or Solaren... (PS: "Newspace"? Nurse! This one's straps are loose!!!!)

way south: /Unfortunately, government is the source of the seed money. Its going to be a rough start till these ventures can fund themselves.


Yeah, because private companies have been able to sustain supersonic passenger transport right here on Earth where there are people and destinations. For sure opening up the important dead vacuum to a handful of delirious rich people is the way to go.

What, exactly, causes you to think this way? 

These were comic books, not engineering manuals...

www.bisbos.com 

This is an engineering manual. READ IT.

ars.els-cdn.com
 
2012-08-29 09:05:43 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: way south: /Hopefully the Newspace companies involved will ignore the politics and do things right.

Yes, just like they did in the '70s with OTRAG. Or the Japanese Space Hotel of 1997. Or Solaren... (PS: "Newspace"? Nurse! This one's straps are loose!!!!)

way south: /Unfortunately, government is the source of the seed money. Its going to be a rough start till these ventures can fund themselves.

Yeah, because private companies have been able to sustain supersonic passenger transport right here on Earth where there are people and destinations. For sure opening up the important dead vacuum to a handful of delirious rich people is the way to go.

What, exactly, causes you to think this way?


L-5 in '95, Dude! 

I think Mr. Musk is doing things quite sensibly, and being a sensible insane billionaire (and possible super-villain) I don't imagine he's planning on going anywhere NEAR the Moon (which is a desolate hole).
 
2012-08-29 09:06:17 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: This is an engineering manual. READ IT.


As soon as you read a biology manual.
 
2012-08-29 09:10:58 PM

way south: They had planned to turn the moon into the first stop for testing all future missions, and then...

/Politicians are idiots.
/Hopefully the Newspace companies involved will ignore the politics and do things right.
/Unfortunately, government is the source of the seed money. Its going to be a rough start till these ventures can fund themselves.


Yeah, for politicians I am constantly surprised that after 40 years so few of them have figured out that space exploration and development is the gift that just keeps on giving. In concrete terms, it's the one venture the gov't can pour dollars into that doesn't inflate the currency, gives us enormous bragging and technical rights, doesn't kill off lots of folks who will eventually come looking for payback, and which nearly everyone supports. Geez, what's not to like about it?

In 1977 I bought a copy of Space Settlements: A Design Study (LGT free online NASA ecopy)
during a visit to the National Air & Space Museum.

The regolith has many of the basics of what we need to build virtually any structure in space...

settlement.arc.nasa.gov

And here's how to organize it all...

settlement.arc.nasa.gov 

The short version is that we could spend the next 500 years exploring and exploiting (yes!) the rest of the solar system just as we spent the last 500 years exploring and exploiting the Earth.

But it all starts with going back to the Moon.
 
2012-08-29 09:11:58 PM

Felgraf: As soon as you read a biology manual.


Why? It's all information, man. Information never dies. If he could ever copy himself into the largest computer in the world with a self-sustaining wind generator and an army of techs to keep the hard drives replaced, he'd LIVE FOREVER.

You just don't know, man, you're all up in space going WOO WOO WOO I'M IN SPACE.
 
2012-08-29 09:18:47 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Anyways, back when I was a drooling idiot, this seemed feasible:


Oh, yes. Interesting book. It was written exceedingly badly, but I loved the blobby aliens in the sea of ammonia.

However, just because you though Robert L. Forward could write doesn't invalidate the entire concept of space exploration. 

Actually, this is a very interesting piece of your overall psychology. You were once a "space nutter", and underwent some conversion experience--perhaps a near-death experience, which would explain the shift to life extension nuttery--so now you have to denigrate your original opinions in order to properly rationalize the conversion. Very interesting.
 
2012-08-29 09:19:43 PM

StoneColdAtheist: The short version is that we could spend the next 500 years exploring and exploiting (yes!) the rest of the solar system just as we spent the last 500 years exploring and exploiting the Earth.


You just gave QA an apoplectic fit.
 
2012-08-29 09:21:47 PM
J. Jonah Jameson is going to be pissed when he finds out what those Spider Robots he bought are being used for!
 
2012-08-29 09:25:09 PM
theorellior
You just gave QA an apoplectic fit

That's not exactly a difficult feat.
 
2012-08-29 09:31:47 PM

Bondith: theorellior
You just gave QA an apoplectic fit

That's not exactly a difficult feat.


Hey Quantum, it's either we go to space or we sink into an endless morass of tribal wars.

/not meant as snark
 
2012-08-29 09:38:50 PM

StoneColdAtheist: Bondith: theorellior
You just gave QA an apoplectic fit

That's not exactly a difficult feat.

Hey Quantum, it's either we go to space or we sink into an endless morass of tribal wars.

/not meant as snark


Your music's bad and you should feel bad!

/totally meant as snark
 
2012-08-29 09:40:48 PM

Felgraf: As soon as you read a biology manual.


Yes? The one where it says atoms have an age, perhaps? ;) Which biology manual would you recommend? One you've read, I presume?
 
2012-08-29 09:48:45 PM

OhioKnight: I think Mr. Musk is doing things quite sensibly, and being a sensible insane billionaire (and possible super-villain) I don't imagine he's planning on going anywhere NEAR the Moon (which is a desolate hole).


Except where he says he wants to retire on Mars. However, owing to the ambiguity of the English language, he could have meant "I'll retire on Earth with the proceeds I'll vacuum out of the pockets of jelly-brained idiots with my Mars pablum*". Quite possibly.

* And by "pablum" I mean a substance that makes santorum look like spring water from the Himalayas

StoneColdAtheist: Hey Quantum, it's either we go to space or we sink into an endless morass of tribal wars.


So you think so little of human potential, yet you want to colonize the universe with such apes?

The mind boggles.

The mind further boggles that your solution is an empty radiation-blasted hell with nothing in it, with nothing more than tin cans that spew burnt kerosene out one end. And of course, this technology is 100% scalable and reliable and very long-lived....

Everything you've ever touched, eaten, looked at, every person you've known, know, and will know is right here. All the atoms are still here. They're not going anywhere, neither are you. Think of how much you could learn if your mind worked at its peak for decades instead of the decade we have now.

If everyone thought in terms of centuries, because they HAD centuries, instead of the miserable handful of years we have now, mayfly-style.
 
2012-08-29 09:52:34 PM
I assume this spiderbot construction system has thrusters for attitude control? Every tiny move it makes to build something, it's going to spin.

Me thinks a huge array of these would need quite the fuel supply and ongoing refueling. Good start toward skydocks in space however.
 
2012-08-29 10:14:47 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: StoneColdAtheist: Hey Quantum, it's either we go to space or we sink into an endless morass of tribal wars.

So you think so little of human potential, yet you want to colonize the universe with such apes?

The mind boggles.


Of course I want to colonize the stars with such apes...or at least begin the process. Just as a general fights not with the army he wishes he has, but with the one he actually has, we will have to start with what we are. That doesn't mean that "humans"...as in 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit meatbags...will sally forth into the great deep in Third Millennium versions of the Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria.

But we flesh and blood will fully explore the solar system, or it is for sure that we will go nowhere else.

The mind further boggles that your solution is an empty radiation-blasted hell with nothing in it, with nothing more than tin cans that spew burnt kerosene out one end. And of course, this technology is 100% scalable and reliable and very long-lived....

I made no such claim or inference and you know it. Besides, there is nowhere else we might go in your lifetime or mine that does not involve such anachronisms. It's gonna be a fact of life until we develop some other way off this rock.

Everything you've ever touched, eaten, looked at, every person you've known, know, and will know is right here. All the atoms are still here. They're not going anywhere, neither are you. Think of how much you could learn if your mind worked at its peak for decades instead of the decade we have now.

If everyone thought in terms of centuries, because they HAD centuries, instead of the miserable handful of years we have now, mayfly-style.


It looks to me like you're waiting for something...your next life maybe?

/not obscure
 
2012-08-29 10:18:38 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Felgraf: As soon as you read a biology manual.

Yes? The one where it says atoms have an age, perhaps? ;) Which biology manual would you recommend? One you've read, I presume?


You do realize that in theory, protons *do* have a half life, right? (Current estimates put it at a pretty high bound, granted).

Or, wait, that's right. I think I saw someone suggest you didn't believe in entropy?
 
2012-08-29 11:10:01 PM

Felgraf: Quantum Apostrophe: Felgraf: As soon as you read a biology manual.

Yes? The one where it says atoms have an age, perhaps? ;) Which biology manual would you recommend? One you've read, I presume?

You do realize that in theory, protons *do* have a half life, right? (Current estimates put it at a pretty high bound, granted).

Or, wait, that's right. I think I saw someone suggest you didn't believe in entropy?


Or telomeres, apoptosis, menopause, senescence or free radicals, apparently.

But tin cans firing kerosene are the absurd idea.
 
2012-08-29 11:53:48 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: The mind further boggles that your solution is an empty radiation-blasted hell with nothing in it, with nothing more than tin cans that spew burnt kerosene out one end. And of course, this technology is 100% scalable and reliable and very long-lived....

Everything you've ever touched, eaten, looked at, every person you've known, know, and will know is right here. All the atoms are still here. They're not going anywhere, neither are you. Think of how much you could learn if your mind worked at its peak for decades instead of the decade we have now.

If everyone thought in terms of centuries, because they HAD centuries, instead of the miserable handful of years we have now, mayfly-style.


Ooooh! We could use the time to figure out how to build good space colonies...
And the prolonged lifespan would let us fly them to other star systems!
 
2012-08-30 12:23:04 AM

Felgraf: Quantum Apostrophe: Felgraf: As soon as you read a biology manual.

Yes? The one where it says atoms have an age, perhaps? ;) Which biology manual would you recommend? One you've read, I presume?

You do realize that in theory, protons *do* have a half life, right? (Current estimates put it at a pretty high bound, granted).

Or, wait, that's right. I think I saw someone suggest you didn't believe in entropy?


I must have missed some interesting threads. I don't see anything in this one justifying all the weird claims people are making regarding Quantum Apostrophe's beliefs, stances, or whatever.

We need to solve the problem of getting off of this rock before we use up enough of our easily-burned resources to make it next to impossible. We need to solve the problem of aging. We need to solve a lot of other problems, some of which would only be exacerbated by solving the above problems first. There is more than enough room for governments, academia, individuals, and private industry to solving these problems. And furthermore, SCIENCE!
 
2012-08-30 12:32:55 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: OhioKnight: I think Mr. Musk is doing things quite sensibly, and being a sensible insane billionaire (and possible super-villain) I don't imagine he's planning on going anywhere NEAR the Moon (which is a desolate hole).

Except where he says he wants to retire on Mars. However, owing to the ambiguity of the English language, he could have meant "I'll retire on Earth with the proceeds I'll vacuum out of the pockets of jelly-brained idiots with my Mars pablum*". Quite possibly.



Ummmm, yeah... because Elon Musk needs money bilked from idiots to retire... That's why he started his own personal space program.
 
2012-08-30 09:41:35 AM

blahpers: I must have missed some interesting threads. I don't see anything in this one justifying all the weird claims people are making regarding Quantum Apostrophe's beliefs, stances, or whatever.


Oh, you've missed out, all right. QA is well-known for spewing vitriol in various space-related threads over the years, coupled with his desire for immortality based on his interesting notion that since atoms don't die, neither should you.
 
2012-08-30 11:16:05 AM

Felgraf: Or, wait, that's right. I think I saw someone suggest you didn't believe in entropy?


I believe most people don't know what it means, yes. How people can believe that life evolved on Earth over billions of years? Could it be that 4 million tons of matter converted into energy per second in the Sun allows a thin membrane of atoms over this planet to keep re-arranging itself?

But an individual organism somehow is exempt from that. How two 30 years olds can make a 0 year old baby is never explained.

theorellior: blahpers: I must have missed some interesting threads. I don't see anything in this one justifying all the weird claims people are making regarding Quantum Apostrophe's beliefs, stances, or whatever.

Oh, you've missed out, all right. QA is well-known for spewing vitriol in various space-related threads over the years, coupled with his desire for immortality based on his interesting notion that since atoms don't die, neither should you.


Ah but the species should never die though.

I'd rather spew vitriol than spew the kind of delusional, adolescent sci-fi fantasies that the Space Nutters revere.

OhioKnight: Quantum Apostrophe: OhioKnight: I think Mr. Musk is doing things quite sensibly, and being a sensible insane billionaire (and possible super-villain) I don't imagine he's planning on going anywhere NEAR the Moon (which is a desolate hole).

Except where he says he wants to retire on Mars. However, owing to the ambiguity of the English language, he could have meant "I'll retire on Earth with the proceeds I'll vacuum out of the pockets of jelly-brained idiots with my Mars pablum*". Quite possibly.


Ummmm, yeah... because Elon Musk needs money bilked from idiots to retire... That's why he started his own personal space program.


Nah, just ordinary run of the mill megalomania explains that.

blahpers: I must have missed some interesting threads. I don't see anything in this one justifying all the weird claims people are making regarding Quantum Apostrophe's beliefs, stances, or whatever.


I find it amazing myself. I guess when you mock people's beliefs, especially when said beliefs amount to nothing more than sci-fi religion, people get defensive. Especially if they can't knock down my arguments, they have to find something else to knock. 

Either I don't explain myself properly, or people are just brainwashed by sci-fi nonsense since childhood and never bother to think through the implications of what they believe. Or if it's even possible given what we know about physics and engineering.

And if you argue that we don't know enough, and that we'll magically find the right physics and technology just in time, well, what's wrong with thinking the same about life extension?

We'll have magical FTL starships and colonize the galaxy, but we'll do it with paunchy middle-aged balding apes with bad eyesight and failing memories, because we'll never, ever figure out how atoms arrange themselves into patterns.

But we'll have magical materials and impossible energy sources. Sure.
 
2012-08-30 11:33:45 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: I believe most people don't know what it means, yes. How people can believe that life evolved on Earth over billions of years? Could it be that 4 million tons of matter converted into energy per second in the Sun allows a thin membrane of atoms over this planet to keep re-arranging itself?

But an individual organism somehow is exempt from that. How two 30 years olds can make a 0 year old baby is never explained.



.... Because the Earth is not currently a closed system? So, yes, that's how we have been able to evolve, you are correct. Entropy increases in the universe overall, but in some areas it can decrease. For a time. But the stars are not eternal (and neither are you). Whether 40 years or 40,000, *you will die*. The sun, and the energy it gives to keep life going, will one day burn out.

So, no, individual organisms aren't exempt from that. But that doesn't mean that entropy doesn't exist.
 
2012-08-30 11:35:25 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: But we'll have magical materials and impossible energy sources. Sure.


I don't see how this is different from assuming we'll beable to make magical pills that instantly rejuvinate you to the prime of your youth, and that we have the material to make enough for EEVERRYYONE!

Or the magic that prevents a population crush. Perhaps mandatory sterilization for everyone!

Or the belief that people living longer will suddenly magically convert everyone into longterm thinkers!

See, look, I can make your position look absurd too!
 
2012-08-30 12:44:53 PM

Felgraf: But the stars are not eternal (and neither are you).


I know that, but damn it, can I please try to outlive a lobster or a tree, and not have my cells do half-assed repairs in the meantime? By that logic, neither is the species eternal, so why is the "species" such a central tenet for the Space Nutter wackjobs?

We will stay right here on this planet, and there won't be a human species in far less time, unless you think evolution has stopped for us?

Felgraf: I don't see how this is different from assuming we'll beable to make magical pills that instantly rejuvinate you to the prime of your youth, and that we have the material to make enough for EEVERRYYONE!


Simple, I never assumed it would be a magic pill, and there is a difference between re-arranging a pattern (information) and moving mass around (Space Nutter delirium). I mean, when you eat, what else is your body doing but converting that burger into you? It's not a difficult stretch to imagine adding a few kinky molecules in there to do a bit of strategic cell re-arranging.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alagebrium

We wouldn't need more material than what we are eating now. Think of the medical care cost savings.

Felgraf: Or the belief that people living longer will suddenly magically convert everyone into longterm thinkers!


That is open to debate, yes, but we wouldn't need everyone to be longer term thinkers, just more than now. That's not possible?

Felgraf: Or the magic that prevents a population crush. Perhaps mandatory sterilization for everyone!


That magic is called oil for now. Perhaps more magic will be required in the form of adapting to a new lower-energy reality? Not everyone will be able to live like top-tier Westerners anyways. So what?

Felgraf: See, look, I can make your position look absurd too!


Except you aren't, since we already extended our lifespan since the early 20th century. Whatever problems extending lifespan creates, we seem to be able to muddle our way through it. 

See, that's the difference. Life extension has already happened in a way. For many, many people. The manned space stuff has never been anything more than political stunts that a few test pilots got to enjoy.

Technologically interesting for sure, but ultimately sterile and irrelevant for everybody on this planet.
 
2012-08-30 12:45:02 PM
For a conversation between science aficionados about the future prospects of science relating to the quests for superlongevity and interstellar travel, you'd think it'd be a little more upbeat than this. (welcometofark.jpg)

Felgraf: I don't see how this is different from assuming we'll beable to make magical pills that instantly rejuvinate you to the prime of your youth, and that we have the material to make enough for EEVERRYYONE!


Seems a bit early to make a judgment call on that one. It's obviously impossible without significant advances in science and technology, but that's no reason to call it ultimately impossible.

Felgraf: Or the belief that people living longer will suddenly magically convert everyone into longterm thinkers!


Does QA really believe that?

Everyone? Heh, not a chance. But it'd be pretty nice with even a few people thinking about things with the perspective of centuries. Imagine if da Vinci were still alive, or Einstein? I know that there are significant societal problems even I could better tackle if I knew I could afford to drop several decades into omnidisciplinary study without worrying about rotting away in the interim.
 
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