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(ESPN)   NFLPA to NFL: "Why haven't you agreed to a deal with the referees? This is just absurd and we are not afraid to strike if a deal is not reached"   (espn.go.com) divider line 18
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2012-08-29 05:09:48 PM
2 votes:
Locking out the players was bad enough. But hey, it's millionaires vs. billionaires.

Locking out the refs is just awful. I'm not sure if I'll bother watching the NFL this year - between the owners' disgusting greed and their willingness to put out a substandard product by abandoning competent officiating, I don't want to give them better ratings.
2012-08-29 04:30:34 PM
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2012-08-29 04:30:23 PM
2 votes:

IAmRight: cendojr: Yeah! Set the precedent that "you're farked" if you get good enough to merit more pay!

Why do they merit more pay? The regular refs suck as bad as the replacement refs.


No the replacements are worse. And it's not just an issue of bad calls - it's flow of the game, ensuring player safety, and, above all, keeping shiat under control (really the main reason the refs exist). You're not going to control really really really big adults if you look (and, in many cases, are) confused and out of your depth.

The NFL is being cheap and shortsighted. So I guess they are following the 21st century business model.
2012-08-30 04:53:08 AM
1 votes:
At the snap of the ball, the offensive and defensive lines ought to drop to their backs and engage in leg-wrestling until the whistle blows. The Receivers and DBs could take a casual stroll around the field for a bit, and the Quarterback and Running Back could play catch for a few moments before the QB takes a knee.

Rinse and repeat for four quarters plus OT, each game ends in a tie.
2012-08-29 05:18:05 PM
1 votes:

Resolute: Oliver Twisted: Me to the NFLPA: "Meh, college the CFL is better anyway".

/YMMV
//Thinks four-down football is dull
///Go Stamps!


you know, i find CFL football pretty damn good. definitely more wide open. love those long endzones, and 120 yard field. i wish we had more access to it down here in the lower 48. i'd love to go to one in person.
2012-08-29 04:52:06 PM
1 votes:
In the second video tat auto-played, John Clayton said that there are two points that need to be worked out and neither is money. First is the pension plan that the NFL doesn't want to fund but the officials do and second is the number of crews. The NFL wants more crews, which means officials would work fewer games.
2012-08-29 04:13:47 PM
1 votes:

IAmRight: cendojr: Yeah! Set the precedent that "you're farked" if you get good enough to merit more pay!

Why do they merit more pay? The regular refs suck as bad as the replacement refs.


It's more my general distaste for the Circuit City model of employment. "You're experienced and more productive now, awesome. What's that? You want to be paid more based on your improved production? Take a hike, we'll get this new guy instead." At high levels of anything you need experienced personnel and this would make that experience valueless.
2012-08-29 04:12:27 PM
1 votes:
I never watched the CFL until last year. I don't get as emotionally involved as I do for NFL play, but the CFL is pretty cool.
2012-08-29 03:49:29 PM
1 votes:
2012-08-29 03:19:44 PM
1 votes:

Lou Cypher: The NFL must think the extensive replay review system now in place somewhat mitigates the need for experienced pros in the striped shirts. Recently seeing more than one DB tagged for 15 yards on a grounded shoulder hit to he chest indicates otherwise.

NFL has just announced that the regular season will begin with the replacements.


This and more - the number of miscalls because the ref is confused between the college and pro games is ridiculous. And if there are too many replays (there already are in the new rules) it will kill the game by destroying the flow. I'm already wearing out the 30 second fast forward button on my remote. The professional refs have a hard enough job to do with the new replay abilities. Pay them you greedy ownerbastards.
2012-08-29 03:14:02 PM
1 votes:
it is absurd. the nfl is a multibillion dollar industry with growing revenues everywhere. the fact that they can't settle a dispute with the officials who call the games is absurd. it's a drop in the bucket.

/of course i don't really care as i don't watch the nfl that much.
2012-08-29 03:12:16 PM
1 votes:

Daniels: Indeed. Full weekends of games that end 75-3 are the height of excitement


Do you have some sort of expanded package thru DirecTV specially made for sh*t early-season games? "Cupcake Saturday Ticket" or something?
2012-08-29 03:10:32 PM
1 votes:

Daniels: Indeed. Full weekends of games that end 75-3 are the height of excitement.


With roughly 50 games going on at a given time, if you want to see close games, there will be more than the NFL provides on a weekly basis.
2012-08-29 03:00:11 PM
1 votes:
The NFL must think the extensive replay review system now in place somewhat mitigates the need for experienced pros in the striped shirts. Recently seeing more than one DB tagged for 15 yards on a grounded shoulder hit to he chest indicates otherwise.

NFL has just announced that the regular season will begin with the replacements.
2012-08-29 02:59:11 PM
1 votes:
Me to the NFLPA: "Meh, college is better anyway".
2012-08-29 02:51:16 PM
1 votes:

antidisestablishmentarianism: I_C_Weener: I would think that striking for another organization's treatment might void their CBA and then you lose all the stuff they won last year like better pay, lifetime medical, a pileof money to pay for traumatic brain injury stuff for players back to the 1950s.

They could just go out on the field, snap the ball, and stand around chatting for 15 minutes at a time. I would pay to see something like that.


at least we may not have to listen to Joe Buck as much then...
2012-08-29 02:22:42 PM
1 votes:

I_C_Weener: I would think that striking for another organization's treatment might void their CBA and then you lose all the stuff they won last year like better pay, lifetime medical, a pileof money to pay for traumatic brain injury stuff for players back to the 1950s.


They could just go out on the field, snap the ball, and stand around chatting for 15 minutes at a time. I would pay to see something like that.
2012-08-29 01:46:55 PM
1 votes:
I would think that striking for another organization's treatment might void their CBA and then you lose all the stuff they won last year like better pay, lifetime medical, a pileof money to pay for traumatic brain injury stuff for players back to the 1950s. 
 
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