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(Daily Mail)   The real questions are why was a priest carrying around a vial of Pope John Paul II's blood in a backpack and how many other vials are still out there?   (dailymail.co.uk ) divider line
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2012-08-29 10:41:09 AM  

snocone: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: So do you get magical powers or what from carrying around a relic? I could see the utility of +10% HP from a saint's knuckle bone or something.

Na, it got nerfed, last crusade.


Why was I thinking Deadlands instead of any other MMO?.
 
2012-08-29 10:41:32 AM  

marius2: mekki: Pathman: mekki: marius2: You religious folk are Farking weird.

Is it any odder than someone else carrying a locket of some beloved one's hair around? Or a parent keeping their kid's first fallen out baby tooth?

yes. yes it is.

How so?

I'll take a stab at it. As someone pointed out as well, those things are pretty odd as well. But this is even odder in my mind as at least a babies tooth, or a locket of a beloved person's hair has some connection with you. That's your baby, or that's your deceased wife, or whathaveyou. This is some guy you likely never met, who people have always told you was better than you, and he told you how to live your life. He's not related to you, he's not your friend, he's not your loved one, why would you want to see, touch, or have, his blood?


I'll support your stab with the logical fallacy, "Tu quoque", or appeal to hypocrisy. People keeping mementos of their loved one's DNA is pretty silly as well, and like this, isn't particularly harmful and should be primarily ignored. Whether or not other people do weird things doesn't make this non-weird.
 
2012-08-29 10:42:24 AM  

MAYORBOB: Because Benedict needs blood.

[thedefeatists.typepad.com image 360x234]


I swear he is the creepiest creep that ever creeped.

/creep.
 
2012-08-29 10:42:39 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Then there's Jeremy Bentham, whose headless corpse is revered at the University College London.

He had something for every Farker, lib and con, atheist and religious:

"Bentham became a leading theorist in Anglo-American philosophy of law, and a political radical whose ideas influenced the development of welfarism. He advocated individual and economic freedom, usury, the separation of church and state, freedom of expression, equal rights for women, the right to divorce, and the decriminalising of homosexual acts.[1] He called for the abolition of slavery and the death penalty, and for the abolition of physical punishment, including that of children.[2] Though strongly in favour of the extension of individual legal rights, he opposed the idea of natural law and natural rights, calling them "nonsense upon stilts".[3]"


So basically he was a walking anathema to us.
 
2012-08-29 10:42:52 AM  

CygnusDarius: mhd: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD POPE!

SKULLS FOR THE SKULL CHURCH.

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x477]


fc05.deviantart.net 

Wanted for questioning.
 
2012-08-29 10:46:41 AM  
He's protecting one of John Paul II's horcruxes.
 
2012-08-29 10:51:17 AM  
OK, I snorted at the horcruxes.
 
2012-08-29 10:52:40 AM  
Cloning. Pope John Paul II clones.
 
2012-08-29 10:55:26 AM  
You are all way off base. Catholics would never do something weird with a vial of a dead Pope's blood

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Now that is more like it

Unrelated but somehow this exists... 

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2012-08-29 11:02:19 AM  
Papal fluids.... just another hipster trend.
 
2012-08-29 11:02:54 AM  
Relics are not specific to Catholicism; they play roles in Islam and certain sects of Buddhism, too.

The idea that parts of an admirable person's body contain power is as old as ritual cannibalism.

On the secular side, we have the original copies of the Constitution and Declaration of Independence, bits of the 9/11 carnage, flags that flew over certain battlefields, etc.

Relics are merely focal points for prayer, meditation, inspiration. Saint Jerome declared, "We do not worship, we do not adore, for fear that we should bow down to the creature rather than to the creator, but we venerate the relics of the martyrs in order the better to adore him whose martyrs they are."

Since 787 A. D., every Catholic and Orthodox altar has contained a relic.
 
2012-08-29 11:06:40 AM  

CygnusDarius: BarkingUnicorn: Then there's Jeremy Bentham, whose headless corpse is revered at the University College London.

He had something for every Farker, lib and con, atheist and religious:

"Bentham became a leading theorist in Anglo-American philosophy of law, and a political radical whose ideas influenced the development of welfarism. He advocated individual and economic freedom, usury, the separation of church and state, freedom of expression, equal rights for women, the right to divorce, and the decriminalising of homosexual acts.[1] He called for the abolition of slavery and the death penalty, and for the abolition of physical punishment, including that of children.[2] Though strongly in favour of the extension of individual legal rights, he opposed the idea of natural law and natural rights, calling them "nonsense upon stilts".[3]"

So basically he was a walking anathema to us.


He certainly was an interesting man, well worth studying.
 
2012-08-29 11:23:25 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Relics are not specific to Catholicism; they play roles in Islam and certain sects of Buddhism, too.

The idea that parts of an admirable person's body contain power is as old as ritual cannibalism.

On the secular side, we have the original copies of the Constitution and Declaration of Independence, bits of the 9/11 carnage, flags that flew over certain battlefields, etc.


At Ford's Theatre, you can see the pillow that Lincoln died on - which is stained with his blood.
 
2012-08-29 11:24:36 AM  
wasn't this the plot of "Oceans something teen"?
 
2012-08-29 11:28:41 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Relics are not specific to Catholicism; they play roles in Islam and certain sects of Buddhism, too.

The idea that parts of an admirable person's body contain power is as old as ritual cannibalism.

On the secular side, we have the original copies of the Constitution and Declaration of Independence, bits of the 9/11 carnage, flags that flew over certain battlefields, etc.

Relics are merely focal points for prayer, meditation, inspiration. Saint Jerome declared, "We do not worship, we do not adore, for fear that we should bow down to the creature rather than to the creator, but we venerate the relics of the martyrs in order the better to adore him whose martyrs they are."

Since 787 A. D., every Catholic and Orthodox altar has contained a relic.


So they focus all of the prayer energy, kind of like a lightsaber crystal.
 
2012-08-29 11:40:26 AM  
www.jonathanrosenbaum.com
 
2012-08-29 11:47:15 AM  

CygnusDarius: Blood of saints are a good weapon against vampires and demons, everyone knows this.

/Now, let me activate my Dementation discipline


Seems we've gone Ventrue -> Lasombra for this pope.
 
2012-08-29 11:58:21 AM  
This guy ------------------------------------------------v
i.dailymail.co.uk
... is doing Facebook wrong.
 
2012-08-29 12:01:41 PM  
I think they put one in each of the 16 chapels.
 
2012-08-29 12:19:17 PM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: CygnusDarius: Blood of saints are a good weapon against vampires and demons, everyone knows this.

/Now, let me activate my Dementation discipline

Seems we've gone Ventrue -> Lasombra for this pope.


You don't go full Lasombra.
 
2012-08-29 12:23:43 PM  
Oh, they made relics of John Paul? Gee, what a shock. They are gonna make him a saint, and bits and pieces associated with saints have always been in demand.
 
2012-08-29 12:33:15 PM  

Pathman: mekki: Pathman: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x281]
because he was the chosen one?

God, that show. I remember in the first season Alan Ball said that Bubba wouldn't be on True Blood because an Elvis wannabe vampire named Bubba would be too cartoon-y for the show he was trying to go far. Fast forward to Sunday's season finale and we have fairy vagina light. Again, fairy vagina light. Yep, not cartoon-y at all.

yeah.. the show blows. truly terrible - and i hate myself for watching it.
alan ball...the guy who brought us six feet under...


I stopped watching after season 2 or 3.
 
2012-08-29 12:38:19 PM  
These were available in the Vatican gift shop. $26.50. Did I make a good investment?
 
2012-08-29 12:51:30 PM  
A vial of the Pope's blood being carried by a priest sounds like the setup to the next Dan Brown book.
 
2012-08-29 12:54:49 PM  
Isn't this the plot of Tales From The Crypt: Demon Knight?

www.hms-studios.com

/vaya con diablos
 
2012-08-29 01:19:36 PM  
how many other vials are still out there?

How many do you want to buy?
 
2012-08-29 01:51:42 PM  
I guess the blood of a pope who was a beneficiary of corruption and 'pope-acide' might be worht something in black magick rituals.

The guy was a stooge who at least knew of what went on before he gained the illustrious post.

MUCH MUCH more investigation is needed into what happened to John Paul I - that guy was actually a Saint, alas he was surrounded by Serpents - follow the money (and wow what a money & power trail it is, a country that shouldn't be and a head of state who was intelligent, wise and saintly, who was murdered just weeks into his popedom (FYI - look up the history of the Vatican Banks and cringe at the still untouched corruption - look for the P2 corpses, esp the one on the bridge....).

*Jesus Wept and the World joined Him*
 
2012-08-29 02:12:06 PM  

maddogdelta: how many other vials are still out there?

How many do you want to buy?


You want a blood vial? I can get you a blood vial, believe me. There are ways, Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me.

feralboy.com
 
2012-08-29 02:15:07 PM  

digitalrain: Pathman: mekki: Pathman: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x281]
because he was the chosen one?

God, that show. I remember in the first season Alan Ball said that Bubba wouldn't be on True Blood because an Elvis wannabe vampire named Bubba would be too cartoon-y for the show he was trying to go far. Fast forward to Sunday's season finale and we have fairy vagina light. Again, fairy vagina light. Yep, not cartoon-y at all.

yeah.. the show blows. truly terrible - and i hate myself for watching it.
alan ball...the guy who brought us six feet under...

I stopped watching after season 2 or 3.


so you're only half as stupid as me... must be nice
 
2012-08-29 02:15:43 PM  

offmymeds: maddogdelta: how many other vials are still out there?

How many do you want to buy?

You want a blood vial? I can get you a blood vial, believe me. There are ways, Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me.

[feralboy.com image 287x300]


to be fair, carrying around the pope's toe would be weirder
 
2012-08-29 03:10:32 PM  
When December 12, 2012 comes, the blood from PJP 2 will be combined in the holy grail, from which it will then transform into the reborn PJP 2, the Pro-Christ.
 
2012-08-29 03:21:23 PM  

GreenSun: When December 12, 2012 comes, the blood from PJP 2 will be combined in the holy grail, from which it will then transform into the reborn PJP 2, the Pro-Christ.


The guy was heading the wrong direction for that. The supposed grail with the best pedigree (got a decent paper trail, and verified to be from the right time period, and in the probable material of the one Jesus would have used), is in Valencia.

\Completely believable otherwise.
 
2012-08-29 03:24:43 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Relics are not specific to Catholicism; they play roles in Islam and certain sects of Buddhism, too.

The idea that parts of an admirable person's body contain power is as old as ritual cannibalism.

On the secular side, we have the original copies of the Constitution and Declaration of Independence, bits of the 9/11 carnage, flags that flew over certain battlefields, etc.

Relics are merely focal points for prayer, meditation, inspiration. Saint Jerome declared, "We do not worship, we do not adore, for fear that we should bow down to the creature rather than to the creator, but we venerate the relics of the martyrs in order the better to adore him whose martyrs they are."

Since 787 A. D., every Catholic and Orthodox altar has contained a relic.


I seem to recall sumptin or other about worshiping false gods, etc. and no other image and like that.
Just sayin' that noticing where the Catholic Church has been lately, they seem to have lost track of their old God.
Claiming sainthood for any recent Popes, Cardinals, Bishops and whatever else you got in charge is ignoring reality.
But then they be good at that.
 
2012-08-29 04:35:08 PM  

Happy Hours: Is that Rowan Atkinson in the first picture?

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2012-08-29 04:49:18 PM  

Langdon_777: I guess the blood of a pope who was a beneficiary of corruption and 'pope-acide' might be worht something in black magick rituals.

The guy was a stooge who at least knew of what went on before he gained the illustrious post.

MUCH MUCH more investigation is needed into what happened to John Paul I - that guy was actually a Saint, alas he was surrounded by Serpents - follow the money (and wow what a money & power trail it is, a country that shouldn't be and a head of state who was intelligent, wise and saintly, who was murdered just weeks into his popedom (FYI - look up the history of the Vatican Banks and cringe at the still untouched corruption - look for the P2 corpses, esp the one on the bridge....).

*Jesus Wept and the World joined Him*


Black Friar. That is all.
 
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