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(NYPost)   From the "it was only a matter of time" department: tip jars now take credit cards   (nypost.com) divider line 167
    More: Obvious, credit cards, jars, baristas, Ryder Kessler, West Village  
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2012-08-29 08:09:35 AM  
And so ends the tax free tip?
 
2012-08-29 08:12:21 AM  
Oooh, you mean those free money jars at coffee shops. It's really nice of people to pitch in for my scone.
 
2012-08-29 08:55:27 AM  
So about when will the excuse, "I don't have cash" be invalid to the cheerleaders in front of Walmart always begging for my money?
 
2012-08-29 09:01:59 AM  

jennies1897: So about when will the excuse, "I don't have cash" be invalid to the cheerleaders in front of Walmart always begging for my money?


Go with the old standby, "Charity starts at home" line, in today's economy is more important than ever.
 
2012-08-29 10:29:10 AM  
i guess they will get you anyways you go now huh

it's like a long running Elephants turd
 
2012-08-29 10:30:06 AM  
Looks like time to start bringing exact change.
 
2012-08-29 10:30:51 AM  

othmar: i guess they will get you anyways you go now huh


PsyLord: Looks like time to start bringing exact change.


Who is forcing you people to put money in tip jars?
 
2012-08-29 10:31:01 AM  
Oh dear god, not another tip thread.

I've got work to do people.
 
2012-08-29 10:31:23 AM  
Um...no
 
2012-08-29 10:33:12 AM  

jennies1897: So about when will the excuse, "I don't have cash" be invalid to the cheerleaders in front of Walmart always begging for my money?


Go the somber route, let them know your daughter just passed and she was a cheerleader as well, you would love to help however you are struggling to pay for her funeral.
 
2012-08-29 10:33:41 AM  
Conveniently, the card slot is penis-shaped.
 
2012-08-29 10:34:59 AM  

dr.zaeus: Oh dear god, not another tip thread.

I've got work to do people.


So, like the rest of us, you have Fark to do.

/won't put his credit card in a tip jar, needs it at the gym
 
2012-08-29 10:36:09 AM  
"I get a check for, like, six dollars every two weeks," said one barista.



Then you, like, have a hobby and not a job. Have fun with it and stop whining.
 
2012-08-29 10:36:18 AM  
Ryder Kessler, 26, said he dreamed up the gadget after watching baristas go tipless as a cashless crowd came through a cafe near his West Village home.

Dude. Sitting behind a cash register, taking my order and handing me a cup of coffee does not in any way deserve a tip.

For those who think I'm going all Mr. Pink: I'm usually* the 20% or over tipper at a place where I'm sitting down and getting, you know, service. The person serving me I usually* see working their tail off. Heck, there is even a line in the bill for that tip. 

*if your service does suck, so does your tip, but that isn't the norm.
 
2012-08-29 10:36:37 AM  

mauricecano: jennies1897: So about when will the excuse, "I don't have cash" be invalid to the cheerleaders in front of Walmart always begging for my money?

Go with the old standby, "Charity starts at home" line, in today's economy is more important than ever.


I find "no" is a tried and true standby. "Go dark yourself" works, too.
 
2012-08-29 10:36:52 AM  
Workers gripe that they are getting tipped less because customers may think it's a scam and the company takes an undisclosed fee from each transaction.
.

What?

How's THAT work? Weird, all your tips, minus our fee, are exactly 12 cents. Every month. Math is great.
 
2012-08-29 10:38:43 AM  
"Everyone was paying with credit or debit, so the tips had plummeted,"

Don't your credit/debit terminals have a 'tip' option built in? The ones around here do, usually with a choice of entering an absolute amount or a percentage.
 
2012-08-29 10:39:13 AM  
I tip at restaurants, most anywhere that has a tip line on the credit card receipt, but I never tip when I walk into somewhere and order to go. What's the point? Tips are for when you're waiting on me and doing extra service. If I order a coffee (I never get anything other than a black coffee and add the cream and sugar myself) I'm not going to pay you extra for performing the action of getting the coffee which you would have done anyway no matter the cost. If you did a handstand and did something beyond the normal application, then yes, that may deserve a tip.

The worst places are when the kitchen staff and the register staff are completely separate and the register staff have a tip jar for standing there and taking their order. We all know that the people making the food never see that cash.
 
2012-08-29 10:39:28 AM  
Don't the card readers in the states give the option od adding a tip? I would not want to stick my card into a stand alone device next to the register. It's just a matter of time before someone replaces them with a skimmer.
 
2012-08-29 10:39:44 AM  
It's really pretty simple --

Bring food/drinks to my table: generous tip unless you're trying to fark it up.
Make me get it at the counter: no tip, unless you're hot and flirty.
 
2012-08-29 10:40:39 AM  

dr.zaeus: Oh dear god, not another tip thread.


Think it's a sign that tipping culture has gotten out of control in recent years. If things keep expanding as they have, it's only a year or two from now that you'll be expected to tip the cashier at Target because they don't pay her as much as she'd like. In the end it's the waitstaff at restaurants who will be hurt the most since they really do work for less than minimum and need the tips. The backlash against everyone wanting a tip isn't going to work out too well for them.
 
2012-08-29 10:41:18 AM  

dr.zaeus: Oh dear god, not another tip thread.

I've got work to do people.


Crap, I can't find my stock "99% of people don't understand the FLSA" rant.
 
2012-08-29 10:43:21 AM  

sigdiamond2000: othmar: i guess they will get you anyways you go now huh

PsyLord: Looks like time to start bringing exact change.

Who is forcing you people to put money in tip jars?


i was merely trying to conduct myself as a proper gentleman.. as it were ..
 
2012-08-29 10:44:28 AM  

Nina Haagen Dazs: And so ends the tax free tip?


HAHA! Good one.
 
2012-08-29 10:46:54 AM  
Should just make it an additional screen on the user side credit device.

/Cash person
//It's quicker in the low end stores with dial-up CC machines.
 
2012-08-29 10:47:42 AM  

Ivo Shandor: "Everyone was paying with credit or debit, so the tips had plummeted,"

Don't your credit/debit terminals have a 'tip' option built in? The ones around here do, usually with a choice of entering an absolute amount or a percentage.


It's harder to guilt people to leaving you their change, when they don't actually think baristas are worth a tip, and only leave change because it happens to be in their hand while the counter girl is staring at them with expectation in her eyes, her firm pouty lips quivering as you slide the raspy quarters across the counter with sharp clicks as they fall into your hand. Your drink will be waiting for you just a few steps away, but the tip jar is right there, and the deep pools of her mocha eyes are filling with hope that you'll reward her furtive glances with a donation into the bucket that's just right there. Maybe, if you tip her while she looks at you, fluttering those long eye lashes, maybe she will think you're rich and urbane like you want to be, a dashing marketing executive on his way to a Mad Men-esque morning round table, and not just off to your job at Target, sweeping up. You want her approval, her respect. You want that straining button on her regulation but somehow still too tight knit uniform to pop off like the steam releasing into a brisk morning cappuccino. You want that lusty artistic college girl with her perky breasts and glossy smiling lips to reward you with a smile, a phone number, a lifetime of lust and passion.

Also, the old lady behind you is glaring at you, so you'd better drop those coins in the bucket or you'll look like a tool.
 
2012-08-29 10:47:52 AM  

Mr Guy: Workers gripe that they are getting tipped less because customers may think it's a scam and the company takes an undisclosed fee from each transaction.
.

What?

How's THAT work? Weird, all your tips, minus our fee, are exactly 12 cents. Every month. Math is great.


I bet they take out the 3% transaction fee or whatever Visa/Mastercard charges.
 
2012-08-29 10:48:50 AM  

MasterPython: Don't the card readers in the states give the option od adding a tip? I would not want to stick my card into a stand alone device next to the register. It's just a matter of time before someone replaces them with a skimmer.


The first time I've seen a card scanner do the tip inside the machine was when I was at restaurants in Ontario. I actually liked that better since the full amount was showing on my online banking "pending" register immediately instead of waiting a couple days for everything to post like it normally does in the US.
 
2012-08-29 10:49:23 AM  
the more obvious and "in my face" on the subject of tips... the LESS I'm inclined to tip. You can't walk 5 feet or do anything these days without someone asking for a tip/donation/taxes.

Get your farking hands out of my pocket -- I give you 4 dollars, you give me a coffee. Thus concludes the transaction.

Tipping is customary if you provide good service above a general standard of performance. "Doing your job" doesn't qualify.
 
2012-08-29 10:49:25 AM  
Just the tip.....that's what I give and it works out to be 20%....OF MY PENIS!!!!
 
2012-08-29 10:53:18 AM  
I like to drop snarky comments like "Here's a tip, don't bet on 3 legged horses"
 
2012-08-29 10:53:25 AM  
I only use stolen credit cards in tip jars... John Johnson is very generous.
 
2012-08-29 10:53:39 AM  
That's it. No more tipping. You self-entitled bastards have ruined it for everyone.
 
2012-08-29 10:55:03 AM  

jennies1897: So about when will the excuse, "I don't have cash" be invalid to the cheerleaders in front of Walmart always begging for my money?


If the cheerleader is going to be blowing me behind the WalMart, yeah she gets paid plus a nice tip.

Other then that; nope.
 
2012-08-29 10:56:40 AM  
You mean to tell me that people actually walk around without a couple of bucks in their pocket?
Cheese and rice, I feel naked if I don't have at least $50 cash in my pocket.
 
2012-08-29 10:57:49 AM  

Mawson of the Antarctic: I tip at restaurants, most anywhere that has a tip line on the credit card receipt, but I never tip when I walk into somewhere and order to go. What's the point? Tips are for when you're waiting on me and doing extra service. If I order a coffee (I never get anything other than a black coffee and add the cream and sugar myself) I'm not going to pay you extra for performing the action of getting the coffee which you would have done anyway no matter the cost. If you did a handstand and did something beyond the normal application, then yes, that may deserve a tip.

The worst places are when the kitchen staff and the register staff are completely separate and the register staff have a tip jar for standing there and taking their order. We all know that the people making the food never see that cash.


Exactly. Same at bars:
- make me a perfect martini? Big tip for you!
- twist the cap off a beer bottle and hand it to me? I might walk away without taking my change if it's less than .25. But this isn't really a tip; I'm just too impatient to wait around.
 
2012-08-29 10:58:51 AM  

Petey4335: Dude. Sitting behind a cash register, taking my order and handing me a cup of coffee does not in any way deserve a tip.


Dude. Even if you don't want to tip, there are plenty of people who do but find themselves low/empty on cash in a society which is depending more and more on electronic transactions. Is it a bad thing to keep up with the times now?
 
2012-08-29 10:59:48 AM  

dentalhilljack: MasterPython: Don't the card readers in the states give the option od adding a tip? I would not want to stick my card into a stand alone device next to the register. It's just a matter of time before someone replaces them with a skimmer.

The first time I've seen a card scanner do the tip inside the machine was when I was at restaurants in Ontario. I actually liked that better since the full amount was showing on my online banking "pending" register immediately instead of waiting a couple days for everything to post like it normally does in the US.


This is the standard across Canada. Tips can be added on the credit/debit machines at any restaurant. I can't imagine it being done any other way now.

/cash is for bums
//still takes a few days to post
 
2012-08-29 11:02:13 AM  

EngineerAU: dr.zaeus: Oh dear god, not another tip thread.

Think it's a sign that tipping culture has gotten out of control in recent years. If things keep expanding as they have, it's only a year or two from now that you'll be expected to tip the cashier at Target because they don't pay her as much as she'd like. In the end it's the waitstaff at restaurants who will be hurt the most since they really do work for less than minimum and need the tips. The backlash against everyone wanting a tip isn't going to work out too well for them.


The backlash all ready is not working out for them, as people like me have decided that this whole begging bullshiat is out of hand and wait staff can go suck it. I'm sorry that you work in a job that is allowed to pay you less then minimum wage, too farking bad.

The most asinine tipping experience I've ever had was at a casino buffet. This particular one called the 1910 Great Food Exposition at the River City casino in St. Louis and you paid before you were allowed to sit down. The cashier biatch expected me to tip, loudly pointed out I had written in 0 as a tip, and was offended when I demanded she void the transaction.

After she called her manager over, he apologized and gave me a free buffet, the food was terrible by the way, not the worst buffet ever that experience goes to the Isle of Capri in Davenport Iowa. Anyway I did tip the wait staff, who only bring you drinks, a dollar as they just bring you soft drinks.

Anway fark tipping, it is not that I'm too poor, but that I'm sick to death of service peoples feelings of entitlement.
 
2012-08-29 11:03:14 AM  

Ivo Shandor: "Everyone was paying with credit or debit, so the tips had plummeted,"

Don't your credit/debit terminals have a 'tip' option built in? The ones around here do, usually with a choice of entering an absolute amount or a percentage.


I usually get the reciept and right above the signature line, is a place to add a tip
 
2012-08-29 11:03:15 AM  

Ivo Shandor: "Everyone was paying with credit or debit, so the tips had plummeted,"

Don't your credit/debit terminals have a 'tip' option built in? The ones around here do, usually with a choice of entering an absolute amount or a percentage.


With cash in hand, you're more likely to tip because it's in your hand and it just takes two seconds to drop the cash? but with a credit card you have to actually think, and it takes longer to figure out how to tip, if you want to give X amount or if you want to round up your bill?

I think the law governing baristas and waiters and servers should change so that they're guaranteed a minimum wage. The chick up above who stated this:

T.M.S.: "I get a check for, like, six dollars every two weeks," said one barista.


Isn't the coffee place supposed to ensure that each worker gets paid minimum wage, if the tips don't make up for it? If she worked a decent amount of time the past two weeks, even with taxes taken out, she shouldn't have a six dollar check.
 
2012-08-29 11:05:48 AM  
www.spikednation.com

/disapproves
 
2012-08-29 11:06:58 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Ivo Shandor: "Everyone was paying with credit or debit, so the tips had plummeted,"

Don't your credit/debit terminals have a 'tip' option built in? The ones around here do, usually with a choice of entering an absolute amount or a percentage.

With cash in hand, you're more likely to tip because it's in your hand and it just takes two seconds to drop the cash? but with a credit card you have to actually think, and it takes longer to figure out how to tip, if you want to give X amount or if you want to round up your bill?

I think the law governing baristas and waiters and servers should change so that they're guaranteed a minimum wage. The chick up above who stated this:

T.M.S.: "I get a check for, like, six dollars every two weeks," said one barista.

Isn't the coffee place supposed to ensure that each worker gets paid minimum wage, if the tips don't make up for it? If she worked a decent amount of time the past two weeks, even with taxes taken out, she shouldn't have a six dollar check.


I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the six dollar check is his take of the shared tips, over and above his normal pay.
 
2012-08-29 11:07:37 AM  
I find it helpful when my barista is a young smoking hot chick, I know she'll never sleep with me, but I feel the need to stuff copious amounts of cash in her jar.
 
2012-08-29 11:08:39 AM  
Come on baby leave some change behind
She was a biatch, but I don't care
She brought our food out on time
and wore a funky barrette in her hair

Everybody's good enough for some change
 
2012-08-29 11:09:34 AM  
I'd love to know where farkers go to eat/shop. I've never been hassled for a tip at a restaurant, to-go or coffee shop. I always tip at least 15% for servers.

Maybe the South is more polite about tipping?
 
hej
2012-08-29 11:10:00 AM  

jennies1897: So about when will the excuse, "I don't have cash" be invalid to the cheerleaders in front of Walmart always begging for my money?


For quite a while, I've wondered how long it will be before the "homeless" panhandlers at the end of the exit ramps have a credit card swiper.
 
2012-08-29 11:10:49 AM  
That thing looks like a security nightmare. It's probably safer to swirl my dick in a 10 dollar whore than it is to stick my credit card in that machine.
 
2012-08-29 11:11:56 AM  
Fark you and bring me my food, coffee or whatever. It's not my fault you have a shiatty job. Handing me a cup over the counter does not warrant a tip.
 
2012-08-29 11:11:59 AM  

Ivo Shandor


"Everyone was paying with credit or debit, so the tips had plummeted,"

Don't your credit/debit terminals have a 'tip' option built in? The ones around here do, usually with a choice of entering an absolute amount or a percentage.


Sure, but the tip option isn't available unless you're actually receiving and signing a paper slip.

Generally no signature is required for small purchases (like coffee) so getting the slip, adding a tip to it, and signing it removes all time-saving benefit to using the card in the first place. It's much quicker to swipe and go and skip the tip, which is why the tips in TFA "had plummeted".
 
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