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(Science Daily)   Scientists propose using the AIDS virus to fight cancer. Still no cure for AIDS   (sciencedaily.com) divider line 39
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2012-08-28 11:59:18 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-29 12:00:13 AM  
What could possibly go wrong?
 
2012-08-29 12:34:29 AM  
Have we tried using the cancer virus?
 
2012-08-29 12:34:47 AM  
Have some AIDS to go with that cancer then gargle with some ebola.
 
2012-08-29 12:38:54 AM  
We're ultimately going to end up with a bunch of frozen gorillas.
 
2012-08-29 12:44:36 AM  
Divide and conquer.
 
2012-08-29 12:44:49 AM  
I was about to mention a bad novel adaptation starring Will Smith, but the Boobieser beat me to it...
 
2012-08-29 12:44:56 AM  
Actually, I thought bone-marrow transplants for some rare cancers had resulted in people winding up HIV-free, or something like that? Maybe this can still work.
 
2012-08-29 12:55:32 AM  

Myria: I was about to mention a bad novel adaptation starring Will Smith, but the Boobieser beat me to it...


Heh. In fact, that's just how I'm listed on the registry. :(
 
2012-08-29 01:14:40 AM  

dbirchall: Actually, I thought bone-marrow transplants for some rare cancers had resulted in people winding up HIV-free, or something like that? Maybe this can still work.


I don't know about "people". Last I heard it was one person, but that may have changed.
 
2012-08-29 01:21:05 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-29 01:34:13 AM  
I wish they'd stop calling it the "AIDS virus". It's HIV.

HIV has not been definitively proven to cause AIDS.

[citation]
 
2012-08-29 01:37:39 AM  
i.imgur.com

Go on...
 
2012-08-29 01:40:55 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I wish they'd stop calling it the "AIDS virus". It's HIV.

HIV has not been definitively proven to cause AIDS.

[citation]


i.istockimg.com
NO. BAD.
 
2012-08-29 01:41:59 AM  
Wait until they merge and we have cancaids.
 
2012-08-29 01:52:02 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I wish they'd stop calling it the "AIDS virus". It's HIV.

HIV has not been definitively proven to cause AIDS.

[citation]


You're just phoning it in now.
 
2012-08-29 01:52:46 AM  
At the end of the day, it all comes down to what quality/quantity of life the, hopefully, survivor ends up with. The prognosis for people with AIDS is getting better and better, while some cancers are still death sentences. I still wouldn't want to be in the position where I'd have to make that call.

Did people disapprove when doctor's started treating with leeches/maggots? Granted, they're more temporary measures, but they're still fairly unorthodox to most people.
 
2012-08-29 02:09:10 AM  
Whoever wins we all lose.
 
2012-08-29 04:07:01 AM  

Ambivalence: dbirchall: Actually, I thought bone-marrow transplants for some rare cancers had resulted in people winding up HIV-free, or something like that? Maybe this can still work.

I don't know about "people". Last I heard it was one person, but that may have changed.


I thought they were up to at least two, now. They don't have a very large supply of guinea pigs because the thing they're treating is kind of rare in the first place, and bone marrow transplants are the absolute last resort. So I guess in most cases where they can get rid of the cancer, they can do it without also curing them of AIDS.

/If I had both cancer and AIDS, I'd be all "gimme the damn bone marrow NOW"
 
2012-08-29 05:54:39 AM  
Really? I'm the first?
Shame on you, Fark.

imgs.xkcd.com
 
2012-08-29 06:18:27 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I wish they'd stop calling it the "AIDS virus". It's HIV.

HIV has not been definitively proven to cause AIDS.

[citation]


For some reason that site reminds me of the flat earth society.
 
2012-08-29 07:02:38 AM  
It's okay, we figured out how to kill HIV with a modified strain of Ebola.
 
rpl
2012-08-29 07:11:19 AM  

Martian_Astronomer: It's okay, we figured out how to kill HIV with a modified strain of Ebola.


...but what do we do if the sentient apes rebel?
 
2012-08-29 07:44:48 AM  
They've been talking about using phages for a long time.
 
2012-08-29 07:55:56 AM  
I know an old lady diagnosed with cancer,
I don't have an answer of what type of cancer,
She might survive.

I know an old lady injected with HIV,
That modified and fought using immunity.
She swallowed the HIV to catch the cancer,
I don't have an answer of what type of cancer,
She might survive.

I know an old lady who was given antiretroviral,
Cured in style with antiretroviral!
She swallowed the antiretroviral to catch the HIV,
That modified and fought using immunity,
She swallowed the HIV to catch the cancer,
I don't have an answer of what type of cancer,
She might survive.

I know an old lady who got a bill in the mail,
It made her go pale, this bill in the mail!
She got the bill from her insurance plan,
They cancelled her plan because she was ill,
I wish her lots of luck affording her pills,
She lost her pills by voting for Romney,
I don't know why she voted for Romney,
I guess she'll die.
 
2012-08-29 08:12:37 AM  
SCIENCE IS AWESOME. We're looking at using one disease against another. Take that zealot Christians who call AIDS a curse from God.

Also, this sounds like a SyFy movie: AIDStopus vs. MegaCancer.
 
2012-08-29 09:01:40 AM  
I seem to recall reading about this ten years ago. I'm convinced this isn't a new idea.
 
2012-08-29 10:06:46 AM  

rpl: Martian_Astronomer: It's okay, we figured out how to kill HIV with a modified strain of Ebola.

...but what do we do if the sentient apes rebel?


Is there such a thing as non-sentient apes?
 
2012-08-29 11:41:38 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: rpl: Martian_Astronomer: It's okay, we figured out how to kill HIV with a modified strain of Ebola.

...but what do we do if the sentient apes rebel?

Is there such a thing as non-sentient apes?


Republicans?
 
2012-08-29 11:45:18 AM  
Pigeons (feathered rat, gutter bird) : tree lizards
tree lizards : Chinese needle snakes
Chinese needle snakes : gorillas
gorillas : winter
 
2012-08-29 11:57:09 AM  
Hey, one an adenoviral vector is as good as any other, right?

Link

/dnrta, but will after I post snark
 
2012-08-29 12:19:57 PM  

highendmighty: Hey, one an adenoviral vector is as good as any other, right?

Link

/dnrta, but will after I post snark


I'd hadn't seen this information before. Thanks for the link highandmighty I.R. subby
 
2012-08-29 12:34:59 PM  

imspartacus: highendmighty: Hey, one an adenoviral vector is as good as any other, right?

Link

/dnrta, but will after I post snark

I'd hadn't seen this information before. Thanks for the link highandmighty I.R. subby


You're very welcome - thank you for taking a look!
If you're up for a teary and infuriating read, Google "Jesse's Intent," a short-ish history of the person and the study.
 
2012-08-29 12:39:19 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
Rampage AIIIIIIIDDDDSSSSS!
 
2012-08-29 01:48:27 PM  

BostonFarker: Bennie Crabtree: rpl: Martian_Astronomer: It's okay, we figured out how to kill HIV with a modified strain of Ebola.

...but what do we do if the sentient apes rebel?

Is there such a thing as non-sentient apes?

Republicans?


You're so witty!

/derp belongs in the politics tab
 
2012-08-29 03:56:34 PM  

BostonFarker: Bennie Crabtree: rpl: Martian_Astronomer: It's okay, we figured out how to kill HIV with a modified strain of Ebola.

...but what do we do if the sentient apes rebel?

Is there such a thing as non-sentient apes?

Republicans?


WinoRhino:
She lost her pills by voting for Romney,
I don't know why she voted for Romney,
I guess she'll die.


You guys got lost. Politics is two tabs over. They have thread after thread after thread for this kind of... "contribution".
 
2012-08-29 05:10:06 PM  
I wish it was something less serious
 
2012-08-29 08:54:04 PM  

Ambivalence: dbirchall: Actually, I thought bone-marrow transplants for some rare cancers had resulted in people winding up HIV-free, or something like that? Maybe this can still work.

I don't know about "people". Last I heard it was one person, but that may have changed.


No, it's apparently correct to use the plural. There are two patients from Boston who are now apparently HIV-free. It's still not a practical cure, though.
 
2012-08-29 11:13:52 PM  
This isn't half as crazy as some things they've actually tried.

Know that "bubble boy" problem where people have no immune system? They had a treatment option that worked for that but it ended up giving people leukemia.
 
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