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(CBS Philadelphia)   D.C. has the worst drivers in the country, according to an insurance company that has never had a single employee drive through Boston   (philadelphia.cbslocal.com ) divider line
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2012-08-28 11:48:13 PM  
No, Maryland has the worst drivers in the country. Any other region, state, county, or city may have bad drivers, but their bad drivers are not as bad as Maryland drivers. If you see Maryland plates on a car, assume that the driver does not know how to accelerate, decelerate, merge, maintain speed, stop, go, turn, drive straight, or remain in a lane. Take for granted that he or she will never yield right of way, cannot park, and has no ability to read road signs. Accept as a certainty that he or she is not paying attention to the road, the environment around the road, or oncoming traffic. Treat Maryland drivers as you would treat an obvious drunk on the road.

Florida drivers, in my estimation, are a near second, but that's because they're old. Bostonians may be third, but I think that's really up for debate.
 
2012-08-28 11:58:09 PM  
I lived in Boston for 2 years. On the day my wife and I moved into the city, we saw a guy make a right-hand turn after cutting across 4 lanes of traffic. Most impressive. It's the only city I've been in where people don't use their turn signals because they don't want to give away their strategy.
 
2012-08-29 12:17:14 AM  
Is that why my insurance more than doubled when I moved from the Greater Boston Area to DC? I thought it was out of spite.
 
2012-08-29 12:18:15 AM  

DblDad: It's the only city I've been in where people don't use their turn signals because they don't want to give away their strategy.


I've often said that dealerships could knock a couple hundred bucks off the price of a car in Mass, and RI for that matter, by just eliminating the f*cking turn signals from point of sale. The people won't ever use the f*cking things anyway!
 
2012-08-29 02:20:17 AM  

NewportBarGuy: DblDad: It's the only city I've been in where people don't use their turn signals because they don't want to give away their strategy.

I've often said that dealerships could knock a couple hundred bucks off the price of a car in Mass, and RI for that matter, by just eliminating the f*cking turn signals from point of sale. The people won't ever use the f*cking things anyway!


I drive with my blinkers on all the time. It helps make up the difference.
 
2012-08-29 02:22:06 AM  
I'm not going to say they are bad, but Seattle drivers are the most courteous, careful drivers in the country.

DON'T STOP AT THE farkING GREEN LIGHT, YOU MORON!
 
2012-08-29 02:26:59 AM  

Pocket Ninja: No, Maryland has the worst drivers in the country. Any other region, state, county, or city may have bad drivers, but their bad drivers are not as bad as Maryland drivers. If you see Maryland plates on a car, assume that the driver does not know how to accelerate, decelerate, merge, maintain speed, stop, go, turn, drive straight, or remain in a lane. Take for granted that he or she will never yield right of way, cannot park, and has no ability to read road signs. Accept as a certainty that he or she is not paying attention to the road, the environment around the road, or oncoming traffic. Treat Maryland drivers as you would treat an obvious drunk on the road.

Florida drivers, in my estimation, are a near second, but that's because they're old. Bostonians may be third, but I think that's really up for debate.


I've recently moved from just outside of Baltimore into DC. I'm pretty sure the DC driving mantra is 'what can I do right now to cause as many accidents as absolutely possible?!'

It is absolutely ridiculous. I get what you mean about Maryland drivers, but by in large I never had a serious issue. In the few weeks I've been in DC I've dodged a few cars, a cyclist who decided to randomly cross the street and a pedestrian who didn't bother to use the crosswalk. These people are crazy.
 
2012-08-29 02:35:56 AM  

INeedAName: Pocket Ninja: No, Maryland has the worst drivers in the country. Any other region, state, county, or city may have bad drivers, but their bad drivers are not as bad as Maryland drivers. If you see Maryland plates on a car, assume that the driver does not know how to accelerate, decelerate, merge, maintain speed, stop, go, turn, drive straight, or remain in a lane. Take for granted that he or she will never yield right of way, cannot park, and has no ability to read road signs. Accept as a certainty that he or she is not paying attention to the road, the environment around the road, or oncoming traffic. Treat Maryland drivers as you would treat an obvious drunk on the road.

Florida drivers, in my estimation, are a near second, but that's because they're old. Bostonians may be third, but I think that's really up for debate.

I've recently moved from just outside of Baltimore into DC. I'm pretty sure the DC driving mantra is 'what can I do right now to cause as many accidents as absolutely possible?!'

It is absolutely ridiculous. I get what you mean about Maryland drivers, but by in large I never had a serious issue. In the few weeks I've been in DC I've dodged a few cars, a cyclist who decided to randomly cross the street and a pedestrian who didn't bother to use the crosswalk. These people are crazy.


I like the tourists on the rent a bikes.

66 is always good for laughs too. Seriously, when you have a massive stretch of road open in front of you and you're going 40, you need to be shot. I've also determined that the reason why drivers around here fear 95 is because it actually moves, and nobody knows what to do with that.

But seriously- major freeways with narrower lanes than most 2 lane highways, absurdly low speed limits that some people honor and other people completely ignore in favor of going 30 over, absurdly complicated interchanges with traffic patterns shifting daily, and drivers from all sorts of random places in the country, giving us a huge range of crappy driving styles. We have Chicago crappy drivers, New York crappy drivers, Boston crappy drivers, timid and fearful midwest crappy drivers, courteous to the point of causing accidents crappy drivers, and this being DC, a shiatload of self absorbed douches ignoring the road.

I can totally see it. DC traffic is a farking mess.
 
2012-08-29 02:37:07 AM  
Oh, and drunks. DC has also been rated the hardest drinking city in the nation, that can't hurt our rating here.
 
2012-08-29 02:42:09 AM  

NewportBarGuy: DblDad: It's the only city I've been in where people don't use their turn signals because they don't want to give away their strategy.

I've often said that dealerships could knock a couple hundred bucks off the price of a car in Mass, and RI for that matter, by just eliminating the f*cking turn signals from point of sale. The people won't ever use the f*cking things anyway!



The thing that I don't get, driving as a guest, is why that even can be argued as being necessary: too often when I activate my turn signal, the car in the next lane decides to race me/pace me so that I can't merge into "their" lane. Why would anyone do this? They're going out of their way merely to endanger someone else. It's so odd.
 
2012-08-29 02:42:33 AM  

Pocket Ninja: No, Maryland has the worst drivers in the country.


Funny, because in Maryland, we say that about Virginia drivers.
 
2012-08-29 02:56:42 AM  
Boston drivers are insane, but they must have some amount of skill to survive the crazy shiat they pull. I'm guessing DC drivers are crazy and stupid.

AverageAmericanGuy: DON'T STOP AT THE farkING GREEN LIGHT, YOU MORON!


I know, right? And not a one of them seems to understand what on-ramps are for. It's as if there's a secret transponder in every "FREEWAY ENTRANCE" sign that disables people's gas pedals.

/for some reason they left it off my car
//not that it does me any good
 
2012-08-29 03:00:29 AM  
F1 driver : native US driver
native US driver : native Chinese driver

currently live in china. just saw a vehicle going in reverse on an 8 lane highway because they missed the offramp. it happens
so often that i no longer think it is strange. i've even been in taxis when they've done it....taxi driver just laughed and
said "meishi" (no worries).
 
2012-08-29 03:00:49 AM  
I will say this... as a native Floridian, I could make a justifiable claim that we have some of the worst drivers in the country...

...that is, until I drove through Louisiana one summer. Hoooo-leeee sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-yit.

/Major crimes?
 
2012-08-29 03:04:10 AM  
From Wisconsin, but family in Boston and I do not understand the hate Boston drivers get, once you get past the honking, yelling and the crazy streets that make no sense they are actually fairly decent. Plus they are far more courteous than midwest drivers, if you are making a turn onto a busy street most people will stop to let you turn, in the midwest there is no chance in hell, granted the Boston driver will be swearing at you the entire time out the window but they still let you in, but still never had an issue driving through Boston.

Seattle on the other hand, those farkers have no clue how to drive.
 
2012-08-29 03:04:40 AM  

Gelatinous: Pocket Ninja: No, Maryland has the worst drivers in the country.

Funny, because in Maryland, we say that about Virginia drivers.


I'm pretty sure that's the joke.

Anyway, I don't think the worst drivers in the US can compare to a good driver here in China.

There's really only one rule: "I go first."
 
2012-08-29 03:27:08 AM  
When driving in Pittsburgh please be aware of our local traffic customs and parking rituals. And please do not slow down for the tunnels.
 
2012-08-29 03:38:34 AM  
Once, while trying to cross Dupont Circle on foot on my way to a doctor's office, I witnessed a Metrobus hit an older model subcompact with an audible crunch. Neither vehicle stopped and they both took different exits from the circle. That left me shaking my head.

Another time, while riding my motorcycle up H street to turn left onto North Capitol on my way to work in Takoma Park, I had a Metrobus next to me suddenly try to merge left on top of me, forcing me into oncoming traffic. I'm still not sure if he did it on purpose. He didn't react to me at all.

I've even had Metrobuses road rage on me in heavy traffic, bright lights on, less than an inch off my back bumper. I got up next to the guy and told him his bus number was right there. He laughed and said I could call whoever I wanted. I called the Safe Driver number on that one, only to find it had been shut down. WMATA, of course, was a brick wall.

In short, when visiting DC, be very careful when confronting (or being confronted by) public transportation.
 
2012-08-29 03:42:00 AM  
The report came from Allstate? Then yeah, they haven't driven through Boston. Perhaps they will soon, now that vaguely competitive car insurance is allowed.

Boston drivers are ill-trained but fake it. I had a friend say with a straight face, "did you know you're supposed to signal when you leave a rotary?" This is a severely intelligent, well-traveled person that had no rage in his body and no problem getting laid at a moment's notice.

I drove a lot in Boston. I would stand out with my signaling because it was so ingrained from a youth in upstate New York (hard driving test, bored cops, free parallel parking all over the place). Otherwise I accepted the other Boston rules:

· If there isn't a turn arrow, you have two seconds to make a left as soon as the light turns green;
· If the paint is faded enough, you may make your own dang lane;
· If you can fit, you can make your own lane;
· If you see a flashing yellow and red light, technically there is a pedestrian crossing. Stop anyway, because there is definitely a cop;
· Everything has a grace period. This includes a light that just turned red, just turned green, just fell off the pole...
· If you take route 9 and the place you need to go is on your left, add five minutes and a mile to your trip.
 
2012-08-29 03:46:03 AM  

frak21: I called the Safe Driver number on that one, only to find it had been shut down. WMATA, of course, was a brick wall. In short, when visiting DC, be very careful when confronting (or being confronted by) public transportation.


Never mind, you win. That just scared the behoonglies outta me.

You've also reminded me that I haven't had a high-beaming tailgater since I moved to Los Angeles a year ago. Driving is still like a video game here (especially when you need to merge on an express... err, freeway) but there are fewer rage-roiders.
 
2012-08-29 03:59:45 AM  

DblDad: It's the only city I've been in where people don't use their turn signals because they don't want to give away their strategy.



That's the case here in DC as well. I had friends visiting from Binghamton, and the poor girl couldn't figure out why no one would let her change lanes. I told her that most people started out courteous, but "learned their lesson" after letting someone (typically with Maryland plates) merge in front of them.

So what you do is look for a spot you want to be in, line up to it, and dive in while signaling at the exact same time. You signal only because it's legal. If you telegraph your intentions, people are going to be like "oh no.... not THIS time. Not again!"
 
2012-08-29 04:06:41 AM  
So glad I rarely drive. When I do it is on desolate highways in Northern BC.

/bush planes and helicopters are much better
 
2012-08-29 04:11:33 AM  
While working a job in the DC area, my boss (who has a spotless driving record) was rear-ended twice (in the same location on the bumper), sideswiped, and involved in a collision that ruined her headlights. All these accidents took place across a span of two days.
Every single driver that hit her had been on their cell phone, none signaled, one left his car, still on his phone, in order to call her several very impolite names and scream until he was red in the face, and two of them are taking legal action against her, in spite of they themselves being responsible for the accidents.
Driving out of the city on the last day of the job. I was rear ended going 5 mph (yes, five) by a woman driving a Mustang. Said woman then forced a lane-switch in extremely dense traffic and fled the scene of the accident, going maybe 20.
DC drivers.
 
2012-08-29 04:14:38 AM  
I wish I could find the old list of driving in different cities, for Boston it had something about driving with your eyes closed.
 
2012-08-29 05:09:52 AM  
I wouldn't say LA is the worst, maybe the most cut throat. You've got to drive aggressively as opposed to defensively.

Then again, maybe they're just jealous...
 
2012-08-29 05:31:18 AM  

pseydtonne: The report came from Allstate? Then yeah, they haven't driven through Boston. Perhaps they will soon, now that vaguely competitive car insurance is allowed.

Boston drivers are ill-trained but fake it. I had a friend say with a straight face, "did you know you're supposed to signal when you leave a rotary?" This is a severely intelligent, well-traveled person that had no rage in his body and no problem getting laid at a moment's notice.

I drove a lot in Boston. I would stand out with my signaling because it was so ingrained from a youth in upstate New York (hard driving test, bored cops, free parallel parking all over the place). Otherwise I accepted the other Boston rules:

· If there isn't a turn arrow, you have two seconds to make a left as soon as the light turns green;

· If the paint is faded enough, you may make your own dang lane;
· If you can fit, you can make your own lane;
· If you see a flashing yellow and red light, technically there is a pedestrian crossing. Stop anyway, because there is definitely a cop;
· Everything has a grace period. This includes a light that just turned red, just turned green, just fell off the pole...
· If you take route 9 and the place you need to go is on your left, add five minutes and a mile to your trip.


The bolded part is the thing that threw me when I lived in Newport, RI. It's a real thing!

Also, I've done the research. And contrary to popular believe, the use of turn signals IS legal in all New England states.

True story!
 
2012-08-29 05:33:05 AM  

Rincewind53: Is that why my insurance more than doubled when I moved from the Greater Boston Area to DC? I thought it was out of spite.


I grew up in NoVA and tried moving to Maryland for a year. All I got was taxed more and a 34% spike in auto insurance cost.
 
2012-08-29 05:35:35 AM  
How much is vehicle insurance in these cities? Here in BC I have 2 million liability, no collision or comprehensive ... costs me $50 / month to insure my truck.
 
2012-08-29 05:57:20 AM  
VA drivers would be worse but they are all stuck on 66. I think everyone in DC learns how to drive from French taxi cab drivers. Stop lights are suggestions. At the age of 16 people in DC are issued their license. I think part of DC problem is we get the best of the worst of drivers from around the world, and every few years we get a fresh supply. One of the fun things iss driving in the snow and seeing all the tags from southern states and diplomat tags trying to drive in the snow.
 
2012-08-29 06:15:20 AM  
anyone who learned to drive in MD is no friend of mine
 
2012-08-29 06:21:36 AM  
FWIW last year's report by Allstate said that data from cities in Massachusetts were excluded.
 
2012-08-29 06:30:45 AM  

DblDad: I lived in Boston for 2 years. On the day my wife and I moved into the city, we saw a guy make a right-hand turn after cutting across 4 lanes of traffic. Most impressive. It's the only city I've been in where people don't use their turn signals because they don't want to give away their strategy.


Hey they stole that idea from Marylanders!
 
2012-08-29 06:31:08 AM  
Yeah. Um.... I drive tractor trailer. Going to drive through Maspeth tonight for my delivery.

NYC drivers are the worst.
 
2012-08-29 07:01:46 AM  
Can we hurry up and make all the cars drive themselves? I'm only wondering because having a computer crash lead to a car crash is much less likely than having a moran crash leading into a pile up and a three hour delay in traffic(on the other side of the city where it isn't even close to connected to where the wreck is).
 
2012-08-29 07:17:31 AM  
Having lived in Atlanta, then DC, then Atlanta again, I laugh at the folks who complain about Atlanta traffic. Sitting in a sea (glacier?) of cars all the way from DC to Richmond tends to put things in perspective.

/ATL drivers are getting worse
//Most of them are imports
 
2012-08-29 07:18:42 AM  

Witchyman: Yeah. Um.... I drive tractor trailer. Going to drive through Maspeth tonight for my delivery.

NYC drivers are the worst.


Not even close. NYC drivers are aggressive and a little crazy, but nowhere near the worst. Please do not confuse NYC drivers with NJ or LI drivers, though. They are terrible and dangerous, especially when driving through the city.

/rode a motorcycle in the City for years with no issues
 
2012-08-29 07:20:54 AM  
CSB time....

Went to Knoxville TN from DC a few weeks ago. Took 81 and actually rather enjoyed the drive. Hit the TN border and was shocked. Everyone knew how to drive and was applying that knowledge. Giving space, passing then moving over, merging with signals, the works!

I thought it was a fluke, an aberration, so I decided to pay attention on the way back. Within a mile of hitting the VA border, the asshole quotient jumped up, and stayed up, for the bulk of 81. Then I hit good ol I-66 and it was like people just took a fist full of crazy and jackass pills.

/Drove around in Boston in the winter. They knew 'how' to drive, they just seemed to ignore all the signals and road-lines.
 
2012-08-29 07:22:37 AM  

Pocket Ninja: No, Maryland has the worst drivers in the country. Any other region, state, county, or city may have bad drivers, but their bad drivers are not as bad as Maryland drivers. If you see Maryland plates on a car, assume that the driver does not know how to accelerate, decelerate, merge, maintain speed, stop, go, turn, drive straight, or remain in a lane. Take for granted that he or she will never yield right of way, cannot park, and has no ability to read road signs. Accept as a certainty that he or she is not paying attention to the road, the environment around the road, or oncoming traffic. Treat Maryland drivers as you would treat an obvious drunk on the road.


They also have no concept of what a turn signal is. I don't think I've ever seen a Maryland driver use one.
 
2012-08-29 07:27:01 AM  
Every car I see with New Jersey plates here in Connecticut is the worst driver I've ever seen. And this state is full of cars with Florida plates.
 
2012-08-29 07:33:31 AM  
The problem with DC drivers is that the diplomats and congress critters have immunity, so they don't really care much. However, I want to suggest that Spokane should at least be in consideration for the worst drivers. I learned to drive in New Jersey, where they don't so much give out driver's licenses, as a license to kill. So, yeah, DC drivers and Jersey drivers are a bit crazy, but drivers in Spokane are just stupid. It is only through serendipity that there aren't more accidents. The whole "make a left turn from the middle lane into the car next to you going straight" thing was funny at first, but really lost its novelty after the 10th time I saw it happen.
 
2012-08-29 07:35:25 AM  

Gelatinous: Pocket Ninja: No, Maryland has the worst drivers in the country.

Funny, because in Maryland, we say that about Virginia drivers.


THIS
 
2012-08-29 07:40:09 AM  
My vote is for the meth-heads who drive around the St. Louis area. Actually, I'm pretty sure everyone in Missouri is on meth.
 
2012-08-29 07:40:16 AM  

Pocket Ninja: No, Maryland has the worst drivers in the country. Any other region, state, county, or city may have bad drivers, but their bad drivers are not as bad as Maryland drivers. If you see Maryland plates on a car, assume that the driver does not know how to accelerate, decelerate, merge, maintain speed, stop, go, turn, drive straight, or remain in a lane. Take for granted that he or she will never yield right of way, cannot park, and has no ability to read road signs. Accept as a certainty that he or she is not paying attention to the road, the environment around the road, or oncoming traffic. Treat Maryland drivers as you would treat an obvious drunk on the road.

Florida drivers, in my estimation, are a near second, but that's because they're old. Bostonians may be third, but I think that's really up for debate.


This is correct.

/Maryland resident
//avoids driving
 
2012-08-29 07:41:37 AM  
I quite like driving in Boston. There's a strange sense of liberation that comes with knowing that I can disregard every single traffic law/convention/courtesy and yet not be out of place. I think people there sort of expect it, and that you're far more likely to draw shouts and curses for actually obeying the law (slow down at a yellow and note the effect). The worst part is the road system. There are a lot of parts of Boston that probably should have been left green, but instead they paved any open area the width of a car +- 2 inches and called them roads. 

DC truly is the worst, though, and for the simple reason that there doesn't seem to be any enforcement. I always get the sense that law enforcement is too busy making sure nobody hurts the tourists down on the mall. It is an interesting city to an outsider, because it is one of the rare places where, while the "good" and "bad" parts of town are clearly delineated by the quality of the homes and businesses, the people behave exactly the same in both.
 
2012-08-29 07:45:01 AM  
Maryland wins. Bonus points for being a taxi or having a handicap placard. Your more discriminatory/stereotypical bonus points come with being old, female, and/or asian.

If while driving to work I come across an elderly asian woman driving a Maryland taxi that has a handicap placard, I just turn around and go home. That's the world telling me that I should not go out today.
 
2012-08-29 07:52:12 AM  
Having driven in both cities, I would give the award to Boston for urban, street driving. However, for beltway driving, the DC area has got to take the farking cake. Nevermind the ninja crotch rocket drivers zipping in and out of lanes at close to 100 mph. Nevermind the assholes who get behind you during traffic jams blasting their horns as if to say, "you wanna collide with that car stopped in the next lane so I can move a total of 15 feet forward. This is the only beltway system where I've been driving with the flow in the slow lane at 10 mph over the speed limit to have some asshole drive up behind me blasting his horn and flipping me the bird because I won't pull over onto the shoulder to allow his Andrettiness by me.
 
2012-08-29 07:53:12 AM  
Boston--the only place in the world where the guy you will hit if you don't get out of the way thinks he has the right of way.

/learned to drive in Maryland.
 
2012-08-29 07:54:07 AM  

Cinaed: CSB time....

Went to Knoxville TN from DC a few weeks ago. Took 81 and actually rather enjoyed the drive. Hit the TN border and was shocked. Everyone knew how to drive and was applying that knowledge. Giving space, passing then moving over, merging with signals, the works!

I thought it was a fluke, an aberration, so I decided to pay attention on the way back. Within a mile of hitting the VA border, the asshole quotient jumped up, and stayed up, for the bulk of 81. Then I hit good ol I-66 and it was like people just took a fist full of crazy and jackass pills.

/Drove around in Boston in the winter. They knew 'how' to drive, they just seemed to ignore all the signals and road-lines.


I took the same trip a few weeks ago, and noticed the exact same things. In fact, that trip was a reminder to me that I wasn't losing my perspective, and that it really is batshiat insane on Maryland roads.
 
2012-08-29 07:54:58 AM  
Drove into Boston today for work, so getting a kick....

Native NJ/NYC driver here... the no blinker thing REALLY grinds my gears!


d0inw0rk.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-29 07:55:33 AM  
DC area in general, more likely: they get better in both Maryland and Virginia the further you get from DC. Boston's drivers are way better.

Their roads are also extant proof that a freaking cow could do a better job at designing roads than VDOT.
 
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