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(AZ Family)   Mother worried that the odors coming from her neighbor's medical marijuana grow operation are making her child sick. "The doctor said he's got blisters on the back of his throat and they don't know why"   (azfamily.com) divider line 126
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2012-08-28 10:08:16 PM
It's the smart power meter, lady.
 
2012-08-28 10:17:39 PM
It can't be worse than living next to a Burger King, with all that flame-broiled burger smoke blowing around.
 
2012-08-28 10:31:47 PM
"What other kind of chemicals are they going to grow before we all of a sudden have another fire and we didn't know about it?" questioned Storment.

Wow. I didn't realize you could "grow" chemicals. Green thumb, indeed...
 
2012-08-28 10:32:59 PM
"What other kind of chemicals are they going to grow..."

Hydrogen dioxide. Better buy gas masks for your chilluns.
 
2012-08-28 10:34:27 PM

North_Central_Positronics: "What other kind of chemicals are they going to grow before we all of a sudden have another fire and we didn't know about it?" questioned Storment.

Wow. I didn't realize you could "grow" chemicals. Green thumb, indeed...


shakes tiny fist
 
2012-08-28 10:37:02 PM
"I worry every day. My kids have been to the doctor's six times. Yesterday I took my 11-month old and the doctor said he's got blisters on the back of his throat and they don't know why," said Storment.

The kids have been to the doctor's office a whole bunch because of normal childhood checkups. And stop trying to blame your neighbors for your kid's defective throat.
 
2012-08-28 10:37:56 PM
Someone really needs to point this woman to the dangers of Dihydrogen Monoxide. It's EVERYWHERE!
 
2012-08-28 10:55:01 PM
Too bad they can't grow brains
 
2012-08-29 12:38:49 AM

PreMortem: "What other kind of chemicals are they going to grow..."

Hydrogen dioxide. Better buy gas masks for your chilluns.


Dihydrogen monoxide?
 
2012-08-29 12:41:14 AM

North_Central_Positronics: "What other kind of chemicals are they going to grow before we all of a sudden have another fire and we didn't know about it?" questioned Storment.

Wow. I didn't realize you could "grow" chemicals. Green thumb, indeed...


Everything living is merely chemicals, and as such, you can grow chemicals.
 
2012-08-29 02:00:29 AM
It's farking tonsilitis you moron.
 
2012-08-29 02:27:26 AM

Tigger: It's farking tonsilitis strep throat, you moron.

 
2012-08-29 02:42:09 AM
Blisters on the back of your kids throat? Nothing that weed couldn't fix. See your doctor for a prescription.
 
2012-08-29 02:44:56 AM
Blisters on the back of the throat? Chlamydia of the throat? Tell your husband to stop feeding junior the cak...
 
2012-08-29 02:45:11 AM
The stupid, it burns.
 
2012-08-29 02:46:44 AM
Time to go see a different doctor.

This is why I abhor the current primary care physician system in the US. If we had a single-payer system that allowed her to choose her own doctor, she wouldn't be stuck with a dumb fark doctor who can't diagnose her sick child.
 
2012-08-29 02:50:49 AM

BarkingUnicorn: It's the smart power meter, lady.


Lulz.
 
2012-08-29 02:53:59 AM
FTFA "Bill Balafas with the Gilbert Police Department said this is a complex situation."

That's police speak for 'that biatch is crazy'.
 
2012-08-29 02:54:51 AM
It's not lupus.
 
2012-08-29 02:57:16 AM
Depending on the kind of fertilisers and pesticides used in the operation, an adverse health reaction from some kind of chemical is credible.
 
2012-08-29 02:57:34 AM
I keep reading her name as Stormfront.

Am I the only one?
 
2012-08-29 03:02:52 AM

granolasteak: PreMortem: "What other kind of chemicals are they going to grow..."

Hydrogen dioxide. Better buy gas masks for your chilluns.

Dihydrogen monoxide?


I love my Dihydrogen Monoxide gas mask. Israeli surplus. Best $80 I ever spent.

www.lifeguardequipmentandapparel.com

Try to gas me with your chemtrails now, Fartbama Bin Lieberal!
 
2012-08-29 03:04:03 AM

thisispete: Depending on the kind of fertilisers and pesticides used in the operation, an adverse health reaction from some kind of chemical is credible.


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The great outdoors
 
2012-08-29 03:06:31 AM

radarlove: granolasteak: PreMortem: "What other kind of chemicals are they going to grow..."

Hydrogen dioxide. Better buy gas masks for your chilluns.

Dihydrogen monoxide?

I love my Dihydrogen Monoxide gas mask. Israeli surplus. Best $80 I ever spent.

[www.lifeguardequipmentandapparel.com image 450x451]

Try to gas me with your chemtrails now, Fartbama Bin Lieberal!


Huh. The nose seems small...
 
2012-08-29 03:09:14 AM

cretinbob: Tigger: It's farking tonsilitis strep throat, you moron.


Herpes, step dad obtuse, or The 10 yo GF was a 9 yo virgin!

NEXT!

/I should be paid for this shiat
 
2012-08-29 03:10:28 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Time to go see a different doctor.

This is why I abhor the current primary care physician system in the US. If we had a single-payer system that allowed her to choose her own doctor, she wouldn't be stuck with a dumb fark doctor who can't diagnose her sick child.


Why do I have you colored Crazy Gray™?
 
2012-08-29 03:11:15 AM

tko78: Blisters on the back of the throat? Chlamydia of the throat? Tell your husband to stop feeding junior the cak...


I hate to admit it, but that was my immediate thought as well.

thisispete: Depending on the kind of fertilisers and pesticides used in the operation, an adverse health reaction from some kind of chemical is credible.


Possibly with fertilizers, though most growers I know use only neem oil as a pesticide, and stay away from harsh chemical fertilizers as it ends up affecting finished product even after a week's worth of flushing. Harsh, chemically-tasting weed is just no good. Your best fertilizers are bat guano and worm castings. Damn near perfect PNK if you're growing in soil.

Flowering cannabis does smell rather strong though, and it is possible that the child has a very sensitive nose and throat. S/he may very well be allergic to cannabis.
 
2012-08-29 03:12:35 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: radarlove: granolasteak: PreMortem: "What other kind of chemicals are they going to grow..."

Hydrogen dioxide. Better buy gas masks for your chilluns.

Dihydrogen monoxide?

I love my Dihydrogen Monoxide gas mask. Israeli surplus. Best $80 I ever spent.

[www.lifeguardequipmentandapparel.com image 450x451]

Try to gas me with your chemtrails now, Fartbama Bin Lieberal!

Huh. The nose seems small...


Racist.
 
2012-08-29 03:12:50 AM

I_Hate_Iowa: AverageAmericanGuy: Time to go see a different doctor.

This is why I abhor the current primary care physician system in the US. If we had a single-payer system that allowed her to choose her own doctor, she wouldn't be stuck with a dumb fark doctor who can't diagnose her sick child.

Why do I have you colored Crazy Gray™?


I love Iowa?
 
2012-08-29 03:15:51 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Time to go see a different doctor.


No, time for her to go back to kindergarten to learn that when her doctor says "irritation from an unknown source" and tells her to give the kid some cough drops, that doesn't mean that the kid is suffering from some mysterious chemical exposure and there's nothing medical science can do, it means that the symptoms are so easily treatable that it's not worth the effort to identify the irritant.
 
2012-08-29 03:16:01 AM
Thank god for the elemental table because now we're going to have a violent overgrowth of so many "chemicals" that the dumbass will need to know which chemicals grow in the shade and which take full sun. Really. It's getting scary out there, kids, with all these freaks. Who also has children. Even worse.
 
2012-08-29 03:22:03 AM
I wonder how much the mother was paid by the Maricopa-crazies? Or it could be part of Jan unleashing her TomHornaken on those hippy medical marijuana in the same manner he got rid of Mex-American studies.
 
2012-08-29 03:22:17 AM
Putting ice in your bongwater will help with those throat blisters.

/here to help
 
2012-08-29 03:22:25 AM
at least it wasn't jackhammers
 
2012-08-29 03:23:36 AM
Dude, I just found out that Pernod is making, and selling in the US, real absinthe once again. (By wondering around a very well stocked liquor store)

I don't want your pot. I'll stick with thujone for now.
 
2012-08-29 03:26:42 AM

wildcardjack: I don't want your pot. I'll stick with thujone for now.


Enjoy your highly poisonous alcohol and wormwood.

I'll be sticking with that which has zero chance of causing a fatal overdose.
 
2012-08-29 03:27:11 AM

radarlove: tko78: Blisters on the back of the throat? Chlamydia of the throat? Tell your husband to stop feeding junior the cak...

I hate to admit it, but that was my immediate thought as well.

thisispete: Depending on the kind of fertilisers and pesticides used in the operation, an adverse health reaction from some kind of chemical is credible.

Possibly with fertilizers, though most growers I know use only neem oil as a pesticide, and stay away from harsh chemical fertilizers as it ends up affecting finished product even after a week's worth of flushing. Harsh, chemically-tasting weed is just no good. Your best fertilizers are bat guano and worm castings. Damn near perfect PNK if you're growing in soil.

Flowering cannabis does smell rather strong though, and it is possible that the child has a very sensitive nose and throat. S/he may very well be allergic to cannabis.


...or maybe pollen? Gotta be a lot of crops herming out in the heat down there.
 
2012-08-29 03:28:19 AM

Jim_Callahan: AverageAmericanGuy: Time to go see a different doctor.

No, time for her to go back to kindergarten to learn that when her doctor says "irritation from an unknown source" and tells her to give the kid some cough drops, that doesn't mean that the kid is suffering from some mysterious chemical exposure and there's nothing medical science can do, it means that the symptoms are so easily treatable that it's not worth the effort to identify the irritant.


If it is an allergy, repeated exposure can worsen the reaction, up to a point of death. Doctor should do the tests, though I don't know if pot(and related "chemicals" such as used in growing it) is part of the standard scratch test... I'm sure something could be arranged.
 
2012-08-29 03:32:43 AM

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: radarlove: tko78: Blisters on the back of the throat? Chlamydia of the throat? Tell your husband to stop feeding junior the cak...

I hate to admit it, but that was my immediate thought as well.

thisispete: Depending on the kind of fertilisers and pesticides used in the operation, an adverse health reaction from some kind of chemical is credible.

Possibly with fertilizers, though most growers I know use only neem oil as a pesticide, and stay away from harsh chemical fertilizers as it ends up affecting finished product even after a week's worth of flushing. Harsh, chemically-tasting weed is just no good. Your best fertilizers are bat guano and worm castings. Damn near perfect PNK if you're growing in soil.

Flowering cannabis does smell rather strong though, and it is possible that the child has a very sensitive nose and throat. S/he may very well be allergic to cannabis.

...or maybe pollen? Gotta be a lot of crops herming out in the heat down there.


Quite possible, though after rereading the article my money is actually on the generators that they're using to power the grow. Constantly breathing in gasoline exhaust is never good for you, especially if you're a baby. These guys need to get their power situation figured out and fast.
 
2012-08-29 03:35:49 AM

thisispete: Depending on the kind of fertilisers and pesticides used in the operation, an adverse health reaction from some kind of chemical is credible.


Ever wonder what's on weed grown by criminals?
 
2012-08-29 03:36:16 AM
"My child has an illness from an unknown cause. Therefore, I will blame this on the first thing I don't like."
 
2012-08-29 03:38:46 AM

Cpl.D: "My child has an illness from an unknown cause. Therefore, I will blame this on the first thing I don't like."


Does your mother inlaw weigh the same as a duck?
 
2012-08-29 03:41:31 AM

Notabunny: Cpl.D: "My child has an illness from an unknown cause. Therefore, I will blame this on the first thing I don't like."

Does your mother inlaw weigh the same as a duck?


Yes, if the duck is a 1950's roadside attraction made with seven hundred cubic meters of concrete.

/Not really
//Not married :P
 
2012-08-29 03:43:42 AM

radarlove: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: radarlove: tko78: Blisters on the back of the throat? Chlamydia of the throat? Tell your husband to stop feeding junior the cak...

I hate to admit it, but that was my immediate thought as well.

thisispete: Depending on the kind of fertilisers and pesticides used in the operation, an adverse health reaction from some kind of chemical is credible.

Possibly with fertilizers, though most growers I know use only neem oil as a pesticide, and stay away from harsh chemical fertilizers as it ends up affecting finished product even after a week's worth of flushing. Harsh, chemically-tasting weed is just no good. Your best fertilizers are bat guano and worm castings. Damn near perfect PNK if you're growing in soil.

Flowering cannabis does smell rather strong though, and it is possible that the child has a very sensitive nose and throat. S/he may very well be allergic to cannabis.

...or maybe pollen? Gotta be a lot of crops herming out in the heat down there.

Quite possible, though after rereading the article my money is actually on the generators that they're using to power the grow. Constantly breathing in gasoline exhaust is never good for you, especially if you're a baby. These guys need to get their power situation figured out and fast.


Something about generators powering grows rubs me the wrong way. I guess burning coal isn't much better. Wish I had a greenhouse.
 
2012-08-29 03:47:38 AM
Too many childish people in this world. I hope she dies of cancer.
 
2012-08-29 03:50:55 AM

lewismarktwo: FTFA "Bill Balafas with the Gilbert Police Department said this is a complex situation."

That's police speak for 'that biatch is crazy and we hate those goddamn hippie potsmokers.'.


This woman has two kids? Sad indeed.
 
2012-08-29 03:56:29 AM

radarlove: tko78: Blisters on the back of the throat? Chlamydia of the throat? Tell your husband to stop feeding junior the cak...

I hate to admit it, but that was my immediate thought as well.

thisispete: Depending on the kind of fertilisers and pesticides used in the operation, an adverse health reaction from some kind of chemical is credible.

Possibly with fertilizers, though most growers I know use only neem oil as a pesticide, and stay away from harsh chemical fertilizers as it ends up affecting finished product even after a week's worth of flushing. Harsh, chemically-tasting weed is just no good. Your best fertilizers are bat guano and worm castings. Damn near perfect PNK if you're growing in soil.

Flowering cannabis does smell rather strong though, and it is possible that the child has a very sensitive nose and throat. S/he may very well be allergic to cannabis.


Oh bullsh*t.

Cpl.D: "My child has an illness from an unknown cause. Therefore, I will blame this on the first thing I don't like."


More likely it's this.
; better odds that the baby is reacting to the Febreeze that she's dousing the area with.
 
2012-08-29 03:57:58 AM
They look like a lovely family but they shouldnt blame their bad genes on weed. She needs ro blame her retarded looking husband for passing on those retarded looking genes.

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Wait, is that Ecce Home's Jesus in the rock behind her? Is that why she is making that face?

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2012-08-29 04:02:02 AM
Not surprising, really. I had the same problem. My neighbor was using sarin gas and surplus agent orange on his grow. On Tuesdays he would dust them all down with plutonium dust to kill the parasites. Worked pretty well, I guess. All my hair fell out, but my doctor said it was probably the high tension power lines going through our neighborhood.
 
2012-08-29 04:04:52 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: Not surprising, really. I had the same problem. My neighbor was using sarin gas and surplus agent orange on his grow. On Tuesdays he would dust them all down with plutonium dust to kill the parasites. Worked pretty well, I guess. All my hair fell out, but my doctor said it was probably the high tension power lines going through our neighborhood.


The good news is the medical maijuanan close by to help ease your symptoms.
 
2012-08-29 04:07:17 AM

AbbeySomeone: Oh bullsh*t.


I dunno, man- I have a close friend who is highly allergic to cannabis, and her throat completely closes up if she's exposed to it. When I began working around the stuff a lot, we had a couple of very close epi-pen calls. Sadly, as I smell fairly constantly of marijuana now, we've stopped hanging out.

She's a cool kid and a cigarette smoker and not prone to the "sensitive nose/allergen hysteria" that goes around with your more whiny non-smoker snowflakes.
 
2012-08-29 04:10:15 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: My neighbor was using sarin gas and surplus agent orange on his grow.


Now THAT'LL give your plants some nute-burn!
 
2012-08-29 04:42:58 AM
Have they checked her place for a meth lab?

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2012-08-29 04:54:32 AM
Hmmm, weed allergies?

Or perhaps the fricken generators they're running? Cheap ass generators don't have the pollution controls semi-modern cars have. I've read that they can release as much pollution as 1k properly operating 10 year old cars. And no, I'm not talking about the carbon monoxide the mother is worried about. There's also sulfur compounds, NOX, etc.. Carbon Monoxide will kill you, but it's because it displaces oxygen in the blood stream.

If they have a 'permit' to grow, why do they even need to run generators between 6 am and 9 pm? Why not grow it on a proper farm or in a proper greenhouse that gets 90% of it's light from the sun? We're talking Arizona here! You shouldn't need grow lights, just a few valves and pumps if you're doing hydroponics/automatic watering.

This is why I want the shiat *legalized*, not 'decriminalized'. Production, distribution, and sale needs to be at least as legal as tobacco and alcohol. That way you don't have people doing things like this that would be crazy uneconomical and polluting if it wasn't for the illegality increasing the price and keeping OSHA and the EPA away. Oh yeah, and it'd kill a lot of the violence due to organized crime that currently handles much of the black market, which legalizing small personal amounts wouldn't get rid of.
 
2012-08-29 04:54:45 AM

radarlove:
I dunno, man- I have a close friend who is highly allergic to cannabis, and her throat completely closes up if she's exposed to it. When I began working around the stuff a lot, we had a couple of very close epi-pen calls. Sadly, as I smell fairly constantly of marijuana now, we've stopped hanging out.

She's a cool kid and a cigarette smoker and not prone to the "sensitive nose/allergen hysteria" that goes around with your more whiny non-smoker snowflakes.


I know of a few people who are allergic to the stuff (I happen to be one of them), including two who have similar reactions to that of your friend, potentially life threatening without epi-pen rescue... For me, it's more like a smoke allergy, just stronger than average, but the concentrated smell will cause reflexive nausea as if my body wants to keep that stuff as far from me as possible. Usually I can fight the urge to vomit down, but there was one time at a crowded live music event in a large club when some inconsiderate prick standing nearby me in the crowd was obsessively lighting up and puffing after every song, despite many people around him being visibly disturbed. It stunk pretty heinously in a rather short time and when the nausea hit, it was like a freight train, i.e., projectile vomit
a la The Exorcist. My aim was pretty good (lucky?) so like 90% of it was directed at the source of the smoke, which effectively solved the problem. Thankfully I had eaten immediately beforehand, so my dinner hadn't time yet to be digested and converted into caustic malodorous sludge; it was a pretty painless vomit and merely tasted like dinner.

The symptoms described in the article sound a lot like those I get when exposed to concentrated cedarwood essence or cedar incense, which sucks because I love the smell of cedar.
 
2012-08-29 05:08:47 AM

Dire: It stunk pretty heinously in a rather short time and when the nausea hit, it was like a freight train, i.e., projectile vomit a la The Exorcist. My aim was pretty good (lucky?) so like 90% of it was directed at the source of the smoke, which effectively solved the problem. Thankfully I had eaten immediately beforehand, so my dinner hadn't time yet to be digested and converted into caustic malodorous sludge; it was a pretty painless vomit and merely tasted like dinner.


I'm finding it difficult to fap to this.
 
2012-08-29 05:16:25 AM

ShannonKW: Dire: It stunk pretty heinously in a rather short time and when the nausea hit, it was like a freight train, i.e., projectile vomit a la The Exorcist. My aim was pretty good (lucky?) so like 90% of it was directed at the source of the smoke, which effectively solved the problem. Thankfully I had eaten immediately beforehand, so my dinner hadn't time yet to be digested and converted into caustic malodorous sludge; it was a pretty painless vomit and merely tasted like dinner.

I'm finding it difficult to fap to this.


Me too. I'll need to view the pic of the couple having sex on Thursday again.
 
2012-08-29 05:19:48 AM
cheeba chew mon!

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2012-08-29 05:31:13 AM

radarlove: AbbeySomeone: Oh bullsh*t.

I dunno, man- I have a close friend who is highly allergic to cannabis, and her throat completely closes up if she's exposed to it. When I began working around the stuff a lot, we had a couple of very close epi-pen calls. Sadly, as I smell fairly constantly of marijuana now, we've stopped hanging out.

She's a cool kid and a cigarette smoker and not prone to the "sensitive nose/allergen hysteria" that goes around with your more whiny non-smoker snowflakes.


I know someone exactly the opposite. Smokes bong rips all day, but the minute some tobacco gets in a spliff she stops breathing properly.
 
2012-08-29 05:32:43 AM

Agarista: radarlove: AbbeySomeone: Oh bullsh*t.

I dunno, man- I have a close friend who is highly allergic to cannabis, and her throat completely closes up if she's exposed to it. When I began working around the stuff a lot, we had a couple of very close epi-pen calls. Sadly, as I smell fairly constantly of marijuana now, we've stopped hanging out.

She's a cool kid and a cigarette smoker and not prone to the "sensitive nose/allergen hysteria" that goes around with your more whiny non-smoker snowflakes.

I know someone exactly the opposite. Smokes bong rips all day, but the minute some tobacco gets in a spliff she stops breathing properly.


ooh poor baby. why not just GIVE her a pack of cigarettes. after the pack it will be much harder to discriminate
 
2012-08-29 05:46:39 AM

radarlove:

Possibly with fertilizers, though most growers I know use only neem oil as a pesticide, and stay away from harsh chemical fertilizers as it ends up affecting finished product even after a week's worth of flushing. Harsh, chemically-tasting weed is just no good. Your best fertilizers are bat guano and worm castings. Damn near perfect PNK if you're growing in soil.

Flowering cannabis does smell rather strong though, and it is possible that the child has a very sensitive nose and throat. S/he may very well be allergic to cannabis.


This. I don't know how I'd react to the plants themselves (never having seen a live one), but I get ill if I've even been around someone who smokes it heavily. My eyes start to burn, my sinuses and throat swell up...I could always tell which one of my kids' friends were smokin' the weed.

I once had a pretty violent reaction just standing next to a guy at Blockbuster. It sucks. I haven't been to a concert in 20 years.
 
2012-08-29 05:52:37 AM

Dire: I know of a few people who are allergic to the stuff (I happen to be one of them), including two who have similar reactions to that of your friend, potentially life threatening without epi-pen rescue... For me, it's more like a smoke allergy, just stronger than average, but the concentrated smell will cause reflexive nausea as if my body wants to keep that stuff as far from me as possible. Usually I can fight the urge to vomit down, but there was one time at a crowded live music event in a large club when some inconsiderate prick standing nearby me in the crowd was obsessively lighting up and puffing after every song, despite many people around him being visibly disturbed. It stunk pretty heinously in a rather short time and when the nausea hit, it was like a freight train, i.e., projectile vomit
a la The Exorcist. My aim was pretty good (lucky?) so like 90% of it was directed at the source of the smoke, which effectively solved the problem. Thankfully I had eaten immediately beforehand, so my dinner hadn't time yet to be digested and converted into caustic malodorous sludge; it was a pretty painless vomit and merely tasted like dinner.

The symptoms described in the article sound a lot like those I get when exposed to concentrated cedarwood essence or cedar incense, which sucks because I love the smell of cedar.


I drive by TWO large, legal grow co-ops on my way to work each day, and live within a couple blocks of one of them and walk by the place routinely.

I highly, HIGHLY (no pun intended) doubt that the problem relates to the marijuana itself and their proximity thereto. It's much more likely that the generators and related pollution is causing the health issues, and it definitely NEEDS to be addressed. I'm all for legalization, medical marijuana, and the whole nine yards, but polluting the neighborhood is not acceptable.
 
2012-08-29 05:55:10 AM

radarlove: ThrobblefootSpectre: My neighbor was using sarin gas and surplus agent orange on his grow.

Now THAT'LL give your plants some nute-burn!


Pass that SHIAT! Link
 
2012-08-29 05:57:10 AM

Attila the Mom: This. I don't know how I'd react to the plants themselves (never having seen a live one), but I get ill if I've even been around someone who smokes it heavily.


That is entirely understandable. Even being next to an outdoor grow area MAY be plausible.

The idea being floated around that an enclosed grow house is going to cause neighbors to get sick because of the faint odor of marijuana is pretty silly. Again, considering the generators (and the fact that something caught on f*cking FIRE), I'd say there are more likely culprits.
 
2012-08-29 06:00:02 AM

Attila the Mom: My eyes start to burn, my sinuses and throat swell up...I could always tell which one of my kids' friends were smokin' the weed.


That's another thing... if the next door house was used as, basically, an Amsterdam bar wanna-be, I'd also be accepting of the marijuana hypothesis. The smoke CAN be an annoyance in quantities, even for those without allergies.
 
2012-08-29 06:10:50 AM
To all you apologists for the neighbor just consider this has nothing to do with weed for a second.

Say your neighbor is almost surely violating zoning by operating a commercial grow operation of lettuce.
Because he likely has no idea wtf he is doing and reading between the lines a bit, it is a fair assumption he did a bunch of non-permitted or to code electrical work, he already started one fire. Now he can't get the electric back on because of permit problems (most likely due to non-code work that is unsafe). So that jackass gets a bunch of generators he runs all day long. Now your kids are getting sick and it smells horrible. Do you still support this guy?

There is a reason we have zoning and business regulation laws. If the guy wants to grow for personal consumption fine. Once you get to a commercial scale this doesn't belong in a house and should be regulated like any other commercial farm.

I blame the reporters, they haven't asked the right questions again. One call to city hall could of found out what permits he has or hasn't pulled and why he is failing to get his power on.
 
2012-08-29 06:19:33 AM

NickelP: To all you apologists for the neighbor just consider this has nothing to do with weed for a second.

Say your neighbor is almost surely violating zoning by operating a commercial grow operation of lettuce.
Because he likely has no idea wtf he is doing and reading between the lines a bit, it is a fair assumption he did a bunch of non-permitted or to code electrical work, he already started one fire. Now he can't get the electric back on because of permit problems (most likely due to non-code work that is unsafe). So that jackass gets a bunch of generators he runs all day long. Now your kids are getting sick and it smells horrible. Do you still support this guy?

There is a reason we have zoning and business regulation laws. If the guy wants to grow for personal consumption fine. Once you get to a commercial scale this doesn't belong in a house and should be regulated like any other commercial farm.

I blame the reporters, they haven't asked the right questions again. One call to city hall could of found out what permits he has or hasn't pulled and why he is failing to get his power on.


So... through all of that, it's the fault of LETTUCE that the neighbor is a farking idiot?
 
2012-08-29 06:22:59 AM
I mean, seriously, I think people are generally against idiots who use generators all day for ANY wasteful reason. As was mentioned earlier, it is freaking Arizona... replace your roof with glass and go to town if you have to.
 
2012-08-29 06:24:18 AM

puffy999: NickelP: To all you apologists for the neighbor just consider this has nothing to do with weed for a second.

Say your neighbor is almost surely violating zoning by operating a commercial grow operation of lettuce.
Because he likely has no idea wtf he is doing and reading between the lines a bit, it is a fair assumption he did a bunch of non-permitted or to code electrical work, he already started one fire. Now he can't get the electric back on because of permit problems (most likely due to non-code work that is unsafe). So that jackass gets a bunch of generators he runs all day long. Now your kids are getting sick and it smells horrible. Do you still support this guy?

There is a reason we have zoning and business regulation laws. If the guy wants to grow for personal consumption fine. Once you get to a commercial scale this doesn't belong in a house and should be regulated like any other commercial farm.

I blame the reporters, they haven't asked the right questions again. One call to city hall could of found out what permits he has or hasn't pulled and why he is failing to get his power on.

So... through all of that, it's the fault of LETTUCE that the neighbor is a farking idiot?


No but it isn't fair to just say the neighbor is crazy because she is pissed about his code violating lettuce op and she should just give her kid a cough drop and deal with it. The dude should relocate this to a space that allows agricultural business and follow the appropriate laws.
 
2012-08-29 06:31:10 AM

puffy999: I mean, seriously, I think people are generally against idiots who use generators all day for ANY wasteful reason. As was mentioned earlier, it is freaking Arizona... replace your roof with glass and go to town if you have to.


TFA also said that there had been an electrical fire. The weed is not the issue but a focal point because it is a 'drug' and gets attention.
 
2012-08-29 06:34:28 AM

NickelP: No but it isn't fair to just say the neighbor is crazy because she is pissed about his code violating lettuce op and she should just give her kid a cough drop and deal with it.


Well, actually, most parents ARE crazy these days, but that's another story.

If someone literally brushed this off BECAUSE it involves marijuana and says "bullshiat, her kids are faking" or something similar, then they're idiots. I don't see TOO many idiots in this thread.
 
2012-08-29 06:39:17 AM
Perhaps if your doctor can tell you what is causing the blisters, you should ask another doctor. One with a medical degree maybe.
 
2012-08-29 06:40:28 AM

AbbeySomeone: TFA also said that there had been an electrical fire. The weed is not the issue but a focal point because it is a 'drug' and gets attention.


I mentioned the fire and how that leads me to believe there are other, as yet undiscovered, problems in this place.

But, yes, if this was NickelP's scenario and people had been commercially farming lettuce in their home, the plant in question wouldn't be mentioned.

And I partially agree NickelP, but only because these people are likely violating a few codes somewhere. I actually have a "conservative" viewpoint that property restrictions are too harsh in this country, so long as harm is not done to a neighbor (and property value in and of itself should not be counted as harm [unless the opposite can be true, and people must pay fees to neighbors if they sell their house for an inflated price due to neighborhood appearance]... sorry that the guy next door has a purple house, deal with it). In this case, clearly they're doing something wrong. Hell, if nothing else, generators cause a lot of noise.
 
2012-08-29 06:41:54 AM

Dire: radarlove:
I dunno, man- I have a close friend who is highly allergic to cannabis, and her throat completely closes up if she's exposed to it. When I began working around the stuff a lot, we had a couple of very close epi-pen calls. Sadly, as I smell fairly constantly of marijuana now, we've stopped hanging out.

She's a cool kid and a cigarette smoker and not prone to the "sensitive nose/allergen hysteria" that goes around with your more whiny non-smoker snowflakes.

I know of a few people who are allergic to the stuff (I happen to be one of them), including two who have similar reactions to that of your friend, potentially life threatening without epi-pen rescue... For me, it's more like a smoke allergy, just stronger than average, but the concentrated smell will cause reflexive nausea as if my body wants to keep that stuff as far from me as possible. Usually I can fight the urge to vomit down, but there was one time at a crowded live music event in a large club when some inconsiderate prick standing nearby me in the crowd was obsessively lighting up and puffing after every song, despite many people around him being visibly disturbed. It stunk pretty heinously in a rather short time and when the nausea hit, it was like a freight train, i.e., projectile vomit
a la The Exorcist. My aim was pretty good (lucky?) so like 90% of it was directed at the source of the smoke, which effectively solved the problem. Thankfully I had eaten immediately beforehand, so my dinner hadn't time yet to be digested and converted into caustic malodorous sludge; it was a pretty painless vomit and merely tasted like dinner.

The symptoms described in the article sound a lot like those I get when exposed to concentrated cedarwood essence or cedar incense, which sucks because I love the smell of cedar.

you sound fat

 
2012-08-29 06:43:56 AM
And I mean, if this place has "customers" coming and going like a traditional commercial business, that too should be considered "harmful" to a neighbor or neighborhood, moreso than just what's being grown inside (whether it be lettuce or medicinal marijuana).

I mean, if you go far enough, you'll be asking the eBay Power Seller who sticks to USPS shipments to move or buy a storefront just so that they reside/work in a lot approved for commercial use.
 
2012-08-29 07:33:51 AM

puffy999: So... through all of that, it's the fault of LETTUCE that the neighbor is a farking idiot?


Could be lettuce, strawberries, roses, whatever. The point is that it isn't the weed itself that's the problem. It's that he's doing commercial things in a non-commercial area, especially the running of (presumably) dirty generators most of the day, every day.

Like I said earlier - legalize and regulate. Grow the stuff on a proper farm, or at least within a proper greenhouse. The electrical isn't that hard to do right, though at the power levels he's probably using, he might be pushing or even exceeding the standard max for a home service (200A).

It's only because weed is still 'mostly' illegal that he can afford to pay the prices for generator electricity and still make a profit. If it was legal he's be economically slaughtered by proper growers.
 
2012-08-29 07:45:25 AM
Now that's a contact high.
 
2012-08-29 07:51:32 AM

cretinbob: Tigger: It's farking tonsilitis strep throat, you moron.


came to say this. I'd put money on the fact that the doctor told her this, but she's to smart to fall for that old trick
 
2012-08-29 08:08:19 AM

Firethorn: puffy999: So... through all of that, it's the fault of LETTUCE that the neighbor is a farking idiot?

Could be lettuce, strawberries, roses, whatever. The point is that it isn't the weed itself that's the problem. It's that he's doing commercial things in a non-commercial area, especially the running of (presumably) dirty generators most of the day, every day.

Like I said earlier - legalize and regulate. Grow the stuff on a proper farm, or at least within a proper greenhouse. The electrical isn't that hard to do right, though at the power levels he's probably using, he might be pushing or even exceeding the standard max for a home service (200A).

It's only because weed is still 'mostly' illegal that he can afford to pay the prices for generator electricity and still make a profit. If it was legal he's be economically slaughtered by proper growers.


If only the grower was in a place with vacant land and plentiful sunlight.
 
2012-08-29 08:11:21 AM

cretinbob: Tigger: It's farking tonsilitis strep throat oral thrush, you moron.


Link
 
2012-08-29 08:49:14 AM
breathe in the 25i-nbome. exhale tha negative stuff
 
2012-08-29 08:52:33 AM

North_Central_Positronics: "What other kind of chemicals are they going to grow before we all of a sudden have another fire and we didn't know about it?" questioned Storment.

Wow. I didn't realize you could "grow" chemicals. Green thumb, indeed...


This is giving her the benefit of the doubt, but maybe she's fearful they will start growing poppies and coca plants?
 
2012-08-29 08:54:06 AM

radarlove: Flowering cannabis does smell rather strong though, and it is possible that the child has a very sensitive nose and throat. S/he may very well be allergic to cannabis.


Or, as is often the case with allergies, a parent is convinced the child is having a reaction and attributes everything to that reaction.
 
2012-08-29 09:02:15 AM
I lived down wind of a Drunkin' Dognuts for a couple of years. It was the fourth floor. At night I could see the cops parked in the front and the dealers parked in the back. There were quite a few cases of "soreness in the nasal passages back of the throat" going around at that time.
 
2012-08-29 09:03:03 AM
Her child's throat met Obama's ovens.
 
2012-08-29 09:03:31 AM

meat0918: North_Central_Positronics: "What other kind of chemicals are they going to grow before we all of a sudden have another fire and we didn't know about it?" questioned Storment.

Wow. I didn't realize you could "grow" chemicals. Green thumb, indeed...

This is giving her the benefit of the doubt, but maybe she's fearful they will start growing poppies and coca plants?


both of which are perfectly legal.

weed is not. cause it "causes u to slow down and get retaded"
 
2012-08-29 09:09:41 AM
Kid needs to change the water in the bong. That'll clear that right up.
 
2012-08-29 09:11:12 AM

khonshu: It's not lupus.


Sounds like it could be throatpus, though.

\probably just a reaction to the radioactive semen the kid's been gulping down from turning tricks outside the nuclear power plant
 
2012-08-29 09:14:30 AM
radarlove: Flowering cannabis does smell rather strong though

Wrong. Depends on the variety. Some very strong types have very little smell
 
2012-08-29 09:17:03 AM

CheekyMonkey: khonshu: It's not lupus.

Sounds like it could be throatpus, though.

\probably just a reaction to the radioactive semen the kid's been gulping down from turning tricks outside the nuclear power plant


fasterdisasterrecords.com
 
2012-08-29 09:25:48 AM
I don't know why ya'll gotta get so offended: Cannabis plants belong away from residences. Worker allergy is a big problem in indoor farms, and motivates air filtration nearly as much as stealth does. Curiously, the immature plants are often the culprit. The resins in cannabis evolved to protect its highly nutritious seeds from birds, so noxiousness is central to the scheme. The oil in the seeds is light, and birds need oil to make their feathers aerodynamically efficient.
Besides the psychoactive resin in the plant, there is also 'stem oil,' which seems nasty by nature. If these people move out, and their symptoms remit, then likely this is their problem.
Anyway, this woman is well within her rights to complain, she isn't seeking the diminution of her neighbors rights, she is simply trying to compel her neighbor to operate with less collateral. He should get a detached house and an electrician. Those who do not have direct experience of these situations are offering opinions without evidence.
 
2012-08-29 09:36:58 AM

Jon iz teh kewl: cheeba chew mon!

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Ban Comic Sans 

/font nazi
 
2012-08-29 09:38:13 AM
She is worried for her children and fears what she doesn't understand, communication and education are key.
 
2012-08-29 09:39:02 AM

lewismarktwo: FTFA "Bill Balafas with the Gilbert Police Department said this is a complex situation."

That's police speak for 'that biatch is crazy'.


that is correct.
 
2012-08-29 09:48:02 AM

Dire: For me, it's more like a smoke allergy


Sounds like horeshiat.

Did your genetic line spontaneously appear within the last 100 years?
 
2012-08-29 10:15:54 AM

Attila the Mom: This. I don't know how I'd react to the plants themselves (never having seen a live one), but I get ill if I've even been around someone who smokes it heavily. My eyes start to burn, my sinuses and throat swell up...I could always tell which one of my kids' friends were smokin' the weed.
I once had a pretty violent reaction just standing next to a guy at Blockbuster. It sucks. I haven't been to a concert in 20 years.


Have you considered picking up some extra work as a narc?
 
2012-08-29 10:17:20 AM

cretinbob: Tigger: It's farking tonsilitis strep throat, you moron.


Herpes from blowing the doctor next door all the time.

/Paging Dr. Sandusky
 
2012-08-29 10:38:27 AM
"medical marijuana" haha. That's a funny oxymoron. Ah... the excuses potheads'll come up with just to get high.
 
2012-08-29 10:44:16 AM
There is an allergy test for pot. It's been in the general allergy profile they run for people with unknown seasonal allergies in Arizona for years.
Here's the article from 1983 about the test when they were first running it.
 
2012-08-29 10:49:58 AM
"What other kind of chemicals are they going to grow before we all of a sudden have another fire and we didn't know about it?"

I can assure ma'am, if there IS another fire, it is quite likely YOU will be aware of it!

And as others have pointed out, what other chemicals are they gonna grow? Obviously, since the ebil weedies is a gateway drug, they will start growing the Crack Extacy and Heroin plants next!

The generator/power issue DOES need to be resolved, IANAG and I can't imagine playing near it would be healthy for children. Hopefully that issue can be resolved soon and the helicopter mom can blame someone else for her children's exotic illnesses.
 
2012-08-29 10:54:13 AM
"What other kind of chemicals are they going to grow before we all of a sudden have another fire and we didn't know about it?"

i1136.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-29 11:00:23 AM

radarlove: tko78: Blisters on the back of the throat? Chlamydia of the throat? Tell your husband to stop feeding junior the cak...

I hate to admit it, but that was my immediate thought as well.

thisispete: Depending on the kind of fertilisers and pesticides used in the operation, an adverse health reaction from some kind of chemical is credible.

Possibly with fertilizers, though most growers I know use only neem oil as a pesticide, and stay away from harsh chemical fertilizers as it ends up affecting finished product even after a week's worth of flushing. Harsh, chemically-tasting weed is just no good. Your best fertilizers are bat guano and worm castings. Damn near perfect PNK if you're growing in soil.

Flowering cannabis does smell rather strong though, and it is possible that the child has a very sensitive nose and throat. S/he may very well be allergic to cannabis.


My wife is allergic to cannabis - she gets into huge coughing fits whenever she smells it - either as a plant or as smoke. Needless to say, we won't have a medical marijuana grow op in our attic any time soon.
 
2012-08-29 11:14:06 AM
when we grew, everytime the wind changed direction our neighbors ordered pizza
 
2012-08-29 11:21:09 AM
It's nothing a little medicinal marijuana won't cure.
 
2012-08-29 12:01:54 PM

PreMortem: "What other kind of chemicals are they going to grow..."

Hydrogen dioxide. Better buy gas masks for your chilluns.


Hydrogen Dioxide would be fairly dangerous, as it would not be a particularly stable molecule and would be fairly reactive.
 
2012-08-29 12:04:42 PM

Saruman_W: "medical marijuana" haha. That's a funny oxymoron. Ah... the excuses potheads'll come up with just to get high.


[flips the troll/retarded coin]

i865.photobucket.com

I guess the coin says you're not a troll.
 
2012-08-29 12:11:45 PM

Saruman_W: "medical marijuana" haha. That's a funny oxymoron. Ah... the excuses potheads'll come up with just to get high.


i303.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-29 12:16:14 PM

Saruman_W: "medical marijuana" haha. That's a funny oxymoron. Ah... the excuses potheads'll come up with just to get high.


I assume you are referring to how heavily abused access to medical marijuana is, not refuting the actual medicinal attributes of marijuana.
 
2012-08-29 12:17:53 PM

Jim_Callahan: AverageAmericanGuy: Time to go see a different doctor.

No, time for her to go back to kindergarten to learn that when her doctor says "irritation from an unknown source" and tells her to give the kid some cough drops, that doesn't mean that the kid is suffering from some mysterious chemical exposure and there's nothing medical science can do, it means that the symptoms are so easily treatable that it's not worth the effort to identify the irritant. you're a crazy helicopter parent and the doctor is going to prescribe a bullshiat fix for a non-existent problem because he doesn't want to have to hear the sound of your voice any longer than is absolutely necessary.


FTFY
 
2012-08-29 01:11:43 PM

SharkTrager: radarlove: Flowering cannabis does smell rather strong though, and it is possible that the child has a very sensitive nose and throat. S/he may very well be allergic to cannabis.

Or, as is often the case with allergies, a parent is convinced the child is having a reaction and attributes everything to that reaction.


Quite true. Those with Allergen Hysteria seem to vastly outnumber those with genuine severe allergies, and do people with severe allergies a great disservice with all of their paranoid hooplah.

Bob16: radarlove: Flowering cannabis does smell rather strong though

Wrong. Depends on the variety. Some very strong types have very little smell


This is also true. My apologies, I should have said CAN smell very strong. But let us be honest here- these guys with their generators and faulty wiring, and most likely no carbon filter, trying to run an indoor grow in Arizona in the summer, are probably not growing G13 or Flo in there. They're probably goring something hearty but nasty.

Then again, I'm making a lot of assumptions about their grow, but it certainly doesn't seem to be a very professional one.
 
2012-08-29 01:43:35 PM
I know a guy who is growing m.j. legally. There are times of the year I don't go to his house because the resin smell is so strong that my throat constricts. This guy just grows small plants in normal potting soil. When there is money involved, there are going to be chemicals, so I can see how this woman is concerned. Add to that, her baby is showing some alarming symptoms. I don't blame her for being a mama tiger protecting her kid. It's her job as a human being.
 
2012-08-29 01:44:13 PM
You cant be allergic to marijuana. You can be sensitive to carbon monoxide or allergic to it. You can be sensitive or allergic to pollen(but most people grow females, pollen ruins marijuana) Seriously, link me a documented case of it. You cant find it because its impossible and any study would show its the TERPENES that would cause a reaction, not the marijuana itself. The same reason people are allergic to perfumes and other smelly crap. Someone who supposedly has an allergy wouldn't have any problem around terpene free marijuana.
 
2012-08-29 01:56:35 PM

c4rr0tc4k3: You cant be allergic to marijuana.


Wow, that's more anti-science than creationists. Way to go sparky.
 
2012-08-29 02:03:36 PM

Contents Under Pressure: When there is money involved, there are going to be chemicals


Not necessarily. Cannabis is a very sensitive plant, and harsh chemicals or shifts in pH can outright kill it very easily. Of course, these guys don't seem like the most experienced growers, so who knows.

c4rr0tc4k3: You cant be allergic to marijuana.


You can develop an allergy to damn near anything, but in this case you are correct that she would be smelling the terpines (mainly beta-caryophyllene) produced by the plant and not the actual plant itself. Terpines are found in a very wide array of plants and insects, and if she has a serious sensitivity to them it could be a possible cause, though again my money is on the generators.

I have personally never heard of a terpine-free cannabis plant, and I've studied and bred a lot of strains.
 
2012-08-29 03:34:03 PM

Saruman_W: "medical marijuana" haha. That's a funny oxymoron. Ah... the excuses potheads'll come up with just to get high.


haha, I know right? The excuses those cancer patients come up with to ease their nausea so they can eat food again. I mean, get real, who needs that, am I right?
 
2012-08-29 03:41:57 PM

North_Central_Positronics: Someone really needs to point this woman to the dangers of Dihydrogen Monoxide. It's EVERYWHERE!


Came for this, leaving satisfied.
 
2012-08-29 03:44:44 PM
Everything connected to marijuana is god-awful
 
2012-08-29 04:03:04 PM
OK, now the trolling in this thread is getting ridiculous.

Either that, or the derp is.
 
2012-08-29 04:08:10 PM
FTFA: "What other kind of chemicals are they going to grow before we all of a sudden have another fire and we didn't know about it?"\

The stupid. It burns.
 
2012-08-29 04:30:37 PM

infinitedigits: cretinbob: Tigger: It's farking tonsilitis strep throat oral thrush, you moron.

Link


yes, it could be candida too. Tonsilitis is like a pneumonia. It's a physical condition caused by something else. Whatever, it's not the sweet, sweet smell of weed.
 
2012-08-29 06:28:08 PM
Lets try some mad lib substitution.

"Mother worried that the odors coming from her neighbor's tomato farm are making her child sick. "The doctor said he's got blisters on the back of his throat and they don't know why"

Yeah, that isn't that exciting, is it?

I suppose if I were sure that my kid was getting sick from a neighbors legitimate business, I'd have to move. That whole 'marijuana' thing doesn't seem to be any portion of the issue here.
 
2012-08-29 08:20:04 PM
Kid burned the back off his throat sucking the cherry off a roach,
 
2012-08-29 09:19:39 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: I_Hate_Iowa: AverageAmericanGuy: Time to go see a different doctor.

This is why I abhor the current primary care physician system in the US. If we had a single-payer system that allowed her to choose her own doctor, she wouldn't be stuck with a dumb fark doctor who can't diagnose her sick child.

Why do I have you colored Crazy Gray™?

I love Iowa?


How do you feel about me sucking dick? As a political issue, I mean?
 
2012-08-29 10:24:01 PM

I_Hate_Iowa: AverageAmericanGuy: I_Hate_Iowa: AverageAmericanGuy: Time to go see a different doctor.

This is why I abhor the current primary care physician system in the US. If we had a single-payer system that allowed her to choose her own doctor, she wouldn't be stuck with a dumb fark doctor who can't diagnose her sick child.

Why do I have you colored Crazy Gray™?

I love Iowa?

How do you feel about me sucking dick? As a political issue, I mean?


I'm not going to create a government program for you, if that's what you mean.
 
2012-08-29 11:00:13 PM
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2012-08-30 01:45:11 AM

AbbeySomeone: If only the grower was in a place with vacant land and plentiful sunlight.


Like the farm or greenhouse I mentioned?

The average person running a grow op may or may not be an idiot. This particular grower though, IS an idiot. A greenhouse isn't that expensive to construct.

Hell, Harbor Freight has a 6x8' greenhouse kit available for $300(48 sqft, $6.25 per sqft). A 10x12' for $650(120 sqft, $5.42). Suddenly you don't need any grow lights(in Arizona), thus no fire from overloading your electrical, thus no need for generators, no fuel bill, no huge electric bill, etc... If people don't like the smell, stick a carbon filter and fan on the system.

If you're going to do it in a residential area, be a polite neighbor - put a high fence up(so your semi-legal activity isn't in their face), put the stuff in a greenhouse so you aren't setting fire to stuff/wrecking the house(if the FBI raids, they just take the greenhouse), etc...

MycroftHolmes: Hydrogen Dioxide would be fairly dangerous, as it would not be a particularly stable molecule and would be fairly reactive.


Considering that hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) is indeed very reactive when pure enough, I'd imagine that hydrogen dioxide(HO2) would be _very_ reactive.
 
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