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(AZ Family)   Mother worried that the odors coming from her neighbor's medical marijuana grow operation are making her child sick. "The doctor said he's got blisters on the back of his throat and they don't know why"   (azfamily.com) divider line 126
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2012-08-29 04:07:17 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Oh bullsh*t.


I dunno, man- I have a close friend who is highly allergic to cannabis, and her throat completely closes up if she's exposed to it. When I began working around the stuff a lot, we had a couple of very close epi-pen calls. Sadly, as I smell fairly constantly of marijuana now, we've stopped hanging out.

She's a cool kid and a cigarette smoker and not prone to the "sensitive nose/allergen hysteria" that goes around with your more whiny non-smoker snowflakes.
 
2012-08-29 04:10:15 AM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: My neighbor was using sarin gas and surplus agent orange on his grow.


Now THAT'LL give your plants some nute-burn!
 
2012-08-29 04:42:58 AM  
Have they checked her place for a meth lab?

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2012-08-29 04:54:32 AM  
Hmmm, weed allergies?

Or perhaps the fricken generators they're running? Cheap ass generators don't have the pollution controls semi-modern cars have. I've read that they can release as much pollution as 1k properly operating 10 year old cars. And no, I'm not talking about the carbon monoxide the mother is worried about. There's also sulfur compounds, NOX, etc.. Carbon Monoxide will kill you, but it's because it displaces oxygen in the blood stream.

If they have a 'permit' to grow, why do they even need to run generators between 6 am and 9 pm? Why not grow it on a proper farm or in a proper greenhouse that gets 90% of it's light from the sun? We're talking Arizona here! You shouldn't need grow lights, just a few valves and pumps if you're doing hydroponics/automatic watering.

This is why I want the shiat *legalized*, not 'decriminalized'. Production, distribution, and sale needs to be at least as legal as tobacco and alcohol. That way you don't have people doing things like this that would be crazy uneconomical and polluting if it wasn't for the illegality increasing the price and keeping OSHA and the EPA away. Oh yeah, and it'd kill a lot of the violence due to organized crime that currently handles much of the black market, which legalizing small personal amounts wouldn't get rid of.
 
2012-08-29 04:54:45 AM  

radarlove:
I dunno, man- I have a close friend who is highly allergic to cannabis, and her throat completely closes up if she's exposed to it. When I began working around the stuff a lot, we had a couple of very close epi-pen calls. Sadly, as I smell fairly constantly of marijuana now, we've stopped hanging out.

She's a cool kid and a cigarette smoker and not prone to the "sensitive nose/allergen hysteria" that goes around with your more whiny non-smoker snowflakes.


I know of a few people who are allergic to the stuff (I happen to be one of them), including two who have similar reactions to that of your friend, potentially life threatening without epi-pen rescue... For me, it's more like a smoke allergy, just stronger than average, but the concentrated smell will cause reflexive nausea as if my body wants to keep that stuff as far from me as possible. Usually I can fight the urge to vomit down, but there was one time at a crowded live music event in a large club when some inconsiderate prick standing nearby me in the crowd was obsessively lighting up and puffing after every song, despite many people around him being visibly disturbed. It stunk pretty heinously in a rather short time and when the nausea hit, it was like a freight train, i.e., projectile vomit
a la The Exorcist. My aim was pretty good (lucky?) so like 90% of it was directed at the source of the smoke, which effectively solved the problem. Thankfully I had eaten immediately beforehand, so my dinner hadn't time yet to be digested and converted into caustic malodorous sludge; it was a pretty painless vomit and merely tasted like dinner.

The symptoms described in the article sound a lot like those I get when exposed to concentrated cedarwood essence or cedar incense, which sucks because I love the smell of cedar.
 
2012-08-29 05:08:47 AM  

Dire: It stunk pretty heinously in a rather short time and when the nausea hit, it was like a freight train, i.e., projectile vomit a la The Exorcist. My aim was pretty good (lucky?) so like 90% of it was directed at the source of the smoke, which effectively solved the problem. Thankfully I had eaten immediately beforehand, so my dinner hadn't time yet to be digested and converted into caustic malodorous sludge; it was a pretty painless vomit and merely tasted like dinner.


I'm finding it difficult to fap to this.
 
2012-08-29 05:16:25 AM  

ShannonKW: Dire: It stunk pretty heinously in a rather short time and when the nausea hit, it was like a freight train, i.e., projectile vomit a la The Exorcist. My aim was pretty good (lucky?) so like 90% of it was directed at the source of the smoke, which effectively solved the problem. Thankfully I had eaten immediately beforehand, so my dinner hadn't time yet to be digested and converted into caustic malodorous sludge; it was a pretty painless vomit and merely tasted like dinner.

I'm finding it difficult to fap to this.


Me too. I'll need to view the pic of the couple having sex on Thursday again.
 
2012-08-29 05:19:48 AM  
cheeba chew mon!

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2012-08-29 05:31:13 AM  

radarlove: AbbeySomeone: Oh bullsh*t.

I dunno, man- I have a close friend who is highly allergic to cannabis, and her throat completely closes up if she's exposed to it. When I began working around the stuff a lot, we had a couple of very close epi-pen calls. Sadly, as I smell fairly constantly of marijuana now, we've stopped hanging out.

She's a cool kid and a cigarette smoker and not prone to the "sensitive nose/allergen hysteria" that goes around with your more whiny non-smoker snowflakes.


I know someone exactly the opposite. Smokes bong rips all day, but the minute some tobacco gets in a spliff she stops breathing properly.
 
2012-08-29 05:32:43 AM  

Agarista: radarlove: AbbeySomeone: Oh bullsh*t.

I dunno, man- I have a close friend who is highly allergic to cannabis, and her throat completely closes up if she's exposed to it. When I began working around the stuff a lot, we had a couple of very close epi-pen calls. Sadly, as I smell fairly constantly of marijuana now, we've stopped hanging out.

She's a cool kid and a cigarette smoker and not prone to the "sensitive nose/allergen hysteria" that goes around with your more whiny non-smoker snowflakes.

I know someone exactly the opposite. Smokes bong rips all day, but the minute some tobacco gets in a spliff she stops breathing properly.


ooh poor baby. why not just GIVE her a pack of cigarettes. after the pack it will be much harder to discriminate
 
2012-08-29 05:46:39 AM  

radarlove:

Possibly with fertilizers, though most growers I know use only neem oil as a pesticide, and stay away from harsh chemical fertilizers as it ends up affecting finished product even after a week's worth of flushing. Harsh, chemically-tasting weed is just no good. Your best fertilizers are bat guano and worm castings. Damn near perfect PNK if you're growing in soil.

Flowering cannabis does smell rather strong though, and it is possible that the child has a very sensitive nose and throat. S/he may very well be allergic to cannabis.


This. I don't know how I'd react to the plants themselves (never having seen a live one), but I get ill if I've even been around someone who smokes it heavily. My eyes start to burn, my sinuses and throat swell up...I could always tell which one of my kids' friends were smokin' the weed.

I once had a pretty violent reaction just standing next to a guy at Blockbuster. It sucks. I haven't been to a concert in 20 years.
 
2012-08-29 05:52:37 AM  

Dire: I know of a few people who are allergic to the stuff (I happen to be one of them), including two who have similar reactions to that of your friend, potentially life threatening without epi-pen rescue... For me, it's more like a smoke allergy, just stronger than average, but the concentrated smell will cause reflexive nausea as if my body wants to keep that stuff as far from me as possible. Usually I can fight the urge to vomit down, but there was one time at a crowded live music event in a large club when some inconsiderate prick standing nearby me in the crowd was obsessively lighting up and puffing after every song, despite many people around him being visibly disturbed. It stunk pretty heinously in a rather short time and when the nausea hit, it was like a freight train, i.e., projectile vomit
a la The Exorcist. My aim was pretty good (lucky?) so like 90% of it was directed at the source of the smoke, which effectively solved the problem. Thankfully I had eaten immediately beforehand, so my dinner hadn't time yet to be digested and converted into caustic malodorous sludge; it was a pretty painless vomit and merely tasted like dinner.

The symptoms described in the article sound a lot like those I get when exposed to concentrated cedarwood essence or cedar incense, which sucks because I love the smell of cedar.


I drive by TWO large, legal grow co-ops on my way to work each day, and live within a couple blocks of one of them and walk by the place routinely.

I highly, HIGHLY (no pun intended) doubt that the problem relates to the marijuana itself and their proximity thereto. It's much more likely that the generators and related pollution is causing the health issues, and it definitely NEEDS to be addressed. I'm all for legalization, medical marijuana, and the whole nine yards, but polluting the neighborhood is not acceptable.
 
2012-08-29 05:55:10 AM  

radarlove: ThrobblefootSpectre: My neighbor was using sarin gas and surplus agent orange on his grow.

Now THAT'LL give your plants some nute-burn!


Pass that SHIAT! Link
 
2012-08-29 05:57:10 AM  

Attila the Mom: This. I don't know how I'd react to the plants themselves (never having seen a live one), but I get ill if I've even been around someone who smokes it heavily.


That is entirely understandable. Even being next to an outdoor grow area MAY be plausible.

The idea being floated around that an enclosed grow house is going to cause neighbors to get sick because of the faint odor of marijuana is pretty silly. Again, considering the generators (and the fact that something caught on f*cking FIRE), I'd say there are more likely culprits.
 
2012-08-29 06:00:02 AM  

Attila the Mom: My eyes start to burn, my sinuses and throat swell up...I could always tell which one of my kids' friends were smokin' the weed.


That's another thing... if the next door house was used as, basically, an Amsterdam bar wanna-be, I'd also be accepting of the marijuana hypothesis. The smoke CAN be an annoyance in quantities, even for those without allergies.
 
2012-08-29 06:10:50 AM  
To all you apologists for the neighbor just consider this has nothing to do with weed for a second.

Say your neighbor is almost surely violating zoning by operating a commercial grow operation of lettuce.
Because he likely has no idea wtf he is doing and reading between the lines a bit, it is a fair assumption he did a bunch of non-permitted or to code electrical work, he already started one fire. Now he can't get the electric back on because of permit problems (most likely due to non-code work that is unsafe). So that jackass gets a bunch of generators he runs all day long. Now your kids are getting sick and it smells horrible. Do you still support this guy?

There is a reason we have zoning and business regulation laws. If the guy wants to grow for personal consumption fine. Once you get to a commercial scale this doesn't belong in a house and should be regulated like any other commercial farm.

I blame the reporters, they haven't asked the right questions again. One call to city hall could of found out what permits he has or hasn't pulled and why he is failing to get his power on.
 
2012-08-29 06:19:33 AM  

NickelP: To all you apologists for the neighbor just consider this has nothing to do with weed for a second.

Say your neighbor is almost surely violating zoning by operating a commercial grow operation of lettuce.
Because he likely has no idea wtf he is doing and reading between the lines a bit, it is a fair assumption he did a bunch of non-permitted or to code electrical work, he already started one fire. Now he can't get the electric back on because of permit problems (most likely due to non-code work that is unsafe). So that jackass gets a bunch of generators he runs all day long. Now your kids are getting sick and it smells horrible. Do you still support this guy?

There is a reason we have zoning and business regulation laws. If the guy wants to grow for personal consumption fine. Once you get to a commercial scale this doesn't belong in a house and should be regulated like any other commercial farm.

I blame the reporters, they haven't asked the right questions again. One call to city hall could of found out what permits he has or hasn't pulled and why he is failing to get his power on.


So... through all of that, it's the fault of LETTUCE that the neighbor is a farking idiot?
 
2012-08-29 06:22:59 AM  
I mean, seriously, I think people are generally against idiots who use generators all day for ANY wasteful reason. As was mentioned earlier, it is freaking Arizona... replace your roof with glass and go to town if you have to.
 
2012-08-29 06:24:18 AM  

puffy999: NickelP: To all you apologists for the neighbor just consider this has nothing to do with weed for a second.

Say your neighbor is almost surely violating zoning by operating a commercial grow operation of lettuce.
Because he likely has no idea wtf he is doing and reading between the lines a bit, it is a fair assumption he did a bunch of non-permitted or to code electrical work, he already started one fire. Now he can't get the electric back on because of permit problems (most likely due to non-code work that is unsafe). So that jackass gets a bunch of generators he runs all day long. Now your kids are getting sick and it smells horrible. Do you still support this guy?

There is a reason we have zoning and business regulation laws. If the guy wants to grow for personal consumption fine. Once you get to a commercial scale this doesn't belong in a house and should be regulated like any other commercial farm.

I blame the reporters, they haven't asked the right questions again. One call to city hall could of found out what permits he has or hasn't pulled and why he is failing to get his power on.

So... through all of that, it's the fault of LETTUCE that the neighbor is a farking idiot?


No but it isn't fair to just say the neighbor is crazy because she is pissed about his code violating lettuce op and she should just give her kid a cough drop and deal with it. The dude should relocate this to a space that allows agricultural business and follow the appropriate laws.
 
2012-08-29 06:31:10 AM  

puffy999: I mean, seriously, I think people are generally against idiots who use generators all day for ANY wasteful reason. As was mentioned earlier, it is freaking Arizona... replace your roof with glass and go to town if you have to.


TFA also said that there had been an electrical fire. The weed is not the issue but a focal point because it is a 'drug' and gets attention.
 
2012-08-29 06:34:28 AM  

NickelP: No but it isn't fair to just say the neighbor is crazy because she is pissed about his code violating lettuce op and she should just give her kid a cough drop and deal with it.


Well, actually, most parents ARE crazy these days, but that's another story.

If someone literally brushed this off BECAUSE it involves marijuana and says "bullshiat, her kids are faking" or something similar, then they're idiots. I don't see TOO many idiots in this thread.
 
2012-08-29 06:39:17 AM  
Perhaps if your doctor can tell you what is causing the blisters, you should ask another doctor. One with a medical degree maybe.
 
2012-08-29 06:40:28 AM  

AbbeySomeone: TFA also said that there had been an electrical fire. The weed is not the issue but a focal point because it is a 'drug' and gets attention.


I mentioned the fire and how that leads me to believe there are other, as yet undiscovered, problems in this place.

But, yes, if this was NickelP's scenario and people had been commercially farming lettuce in their home, the plant in question wouldn't be mentioned.

And I partially agree NickelP, but only because these people are likely violating a few codes somewhere. I actually have a "conservative" viewpoint that property restrictions are too harsh in this country, so long as harm is not done to a neighbor (and property value in and of itself should not be counted as harm [unless the opposite can be true, and people must pay fees to neighbors if they sell their house for an inflated price due to neighborhood appearance]... sorry that the guy next door has a purple house, deal with it). In this case, clearly they're doing something wrong. Hell, if nothing else, generators cause a lot of noise.
 
2012-08-29 06:41:54 AM  

Dire: radarlove:
I dunno, man- I have a close friend who is highly allergic to cannabis, and her throat completely closes up if she's exposed to it. When I began working around the stuff a lot, we had a couple of very close epi-pen calls. Sadly, as I smell fairly constantly of marijuana now, we've stopped hanging out.

She's a cool kid and a cigarette smoker and not prone to the "sensitive nose/allergen hysteria" that goes around with your more whiny non-smoker snowflakes.

I know of a few people who are allergic to the stuff (I happen to be one of them), including two who have similar reactions to that of your friend, potentially life threatening without epi-pen rescue... For me, it's more like a smoke allergy, just stronger than average, but the concentrated smell will cause reflexive nausea as if my body wants to keep that stuff as far from me as possible. Usually I can fight the urge to vomit down, but there was one time at a crowded live music event in a large club when some inconsiderate prick standing nearby me in the crowd was obsessively lighting up and puffing after every song, despite many people around him being visibly disturbed. It stunk pretty heinously in a rather short time and when the nausea hit, it was like a freight train, i.e., projectile vomit
a la The Exorcist. My aim was pretty good (lucky?) so like 90% of it was directed at the source of the smoke, which effectively solved the problem. Thankfully I had eaten immediately beforehand, so my dinner hadn't time yet to be digested and converted into caustic malodorous sludge; it was a pretty painless vomit and merely tasted like dinner.

The symptoms described in the article sound a lot like those I get when exposed to concentrated cedarwood essence or cedar incense, which sucks because I love the smell of cedar.

you sound fat

 
2012-08-29 06:43:56 AM  
And I mean, if this place has "customers" coming and going like a traditional commercial business, that too should be considered "harmful" to a neighbor or neighborhood, moreso than just what's being grown inside (whether it be lettuce or medicinal marijuana).

I mean, if you go far enough, you'll be asking the eBay Power Seller who sticks to USPS shipments to move or buy a storefront just so that they reside/work in a lot approved for commercial use.
 
2012-08-29 07:33:51 AM  

puffy999: So... through all of that, it's the fault of LETTUCE that the neighbor is a farking idiot?


Could be lettuce, strawberries, roses, whatever. The point is that it isn't the weed itself that's the problem. It's that he's doing commercial things in a non-commercial area, especially the running of (presumably) dirty generators most of the day, every day.

Like I said earlier - legalize and regulate. Grow the stuff on a proper farm, or at least within a proper greenhouse. The electrical isn't that hard to do right, though at the power levels he's probably using, he might be pushing or even exceeding the standard max for a home service (200A).

It's only because weed is still 'mostly' illegal that he can afford to pay the prices for generator electricity and still make a profit. If it was legal he's be economically slaughtered by proper growers.
 
2012-08-29 07:45:25 AM  
Now that's a contact high.
 
2012-08-29 07:51:32 AM  

cretinbob: Tigger: It's farking tonsilitis strep throat, you moron.


came to say this. I'd put money on the fact that the doctor told her this, but she's to smart to fall for that old trick
 
2012-08-29 08:08:19 AM  

Firethorn: puffy999: So... through all of that, it's the fault of LETTUCE that the neighbor is a farking idiot?

Could be lettuce, strawberries, roses, whatever. The point is that it isn't the weed itself that's the problem. It's that he's doing commercial things in a non-commercial area, especially the running of (presumably) dirty generators most of the day, every day.

Like I said earlier - legalize and regulate. Grow the stuff on a proper farm, or at least within a proper greenhouse. The electrical isn't that hard to do right, though at the power levels he's probably using, he might be pushing or even exceeding the standard max for a home service (200A).

It's only because weed is still 'mostly' illegal that he can afford to pay the prices for generator electricity and still make a profit. If it was legal he's be economically slaughtered by proper growers.


If only the grower was in a place with vacant land and plentiful sunlight.
 
2012-08-29 08:11:21 AM  

cretinbob: Tigger: It's farking tonsilitis strep throat oral thrush, you moron.


Link
 
2012-08-29 08:49:14 AM  
breathe in the 25i-nbome. exhale tha negative stuff
 
2012-08-29 08:52:33 AM  

North_Central_Positronics: "What other kind of chemicals are they going to grow before we all of a sudden have another fire and we didn't know about it?" questioned Storment.

Wow. I didn't realize you could "grow" chemicals. Green thumb, indeed...


This is giving her the benefit of the doubt, but maybe she's fearful they will start growing poppies and coca plants?
 
2012-08-29 08:54:06 AM  

radarlove: Flowering cannabis does smell rather strong though, and it is possible that the child has a very sensitive nose and throat. S/he may very well be allergic to cannabis.


Or, as is often the case with allergies, a parent is convinced the child is having a reaction and attributes everything to that reaction.
 
2012-08-29 09:02:15 AM  
I lived down wind of a Drunkin' Dognuts for a couple of years. It was the fourth floor. At night I could see the cops parked in the front and the dealers parked in the back. There were quite a few cases of "soreness in the nasal passages back of the throat" going around at that time.
 
2012-08-29 09:03:03 AM  
Her child's throat met Obama's ovens.
 
2012-08-29 09:03:31 AM  

meat0918: North_Central_Positronics: "What other kind of chemicals are they going to grow before we all of a sudden have another fire and we didn't know about it?" questioned Storment.

Wow. I didn't realize you could "grow" chemicals. Green thumb, indeed...

This is giving her the benefit of the doubt, but maybe she's fearful they will start growing poppies and coca plants?


both of which are perfectly legal.

weed is not. cause it "causes u to slow down and get retaded"
 
2012-08-29 09:09:41 AM  
Kid needs to change the water in the bong. That'll clear that right up.
 
2012-08-29 09:11:12 AM  

khonshu: It's not lupus.


Sounds like it could be throatpus, though.

\probably just a reaction to the radioactive semen the kid's been gulping down from turning tricks outside the nuclear power plant
 
2012-08-29 09:14:30 AM  
radarlove: Flowering cannabis does smell rather strong though

Wrong. Depends on the variety. Some very strong types have very little smell
 
2012-08-29 09:17:03 AM  

CheekyMonkey: khonshu: It's not lupus.

Sounds like it could be throatpus, though.

\probably just a reaction to the radioactive semen the kid's been gulping down from turning tricks outside the nuclear power plant


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2012-08-29 09:25:48 AM  
I don't know why ya'll gotta get so offended: Cannabis plants belong away from residences. Worker allergy is a big problem in indoor farms, and motivates air filtration nearly as much as stealth does. Curiously, the immature plants are often the culprit. The resins in cannabis evolved to protect its highly nutritious seeds from birds, so noxiousness is central to the scheme. The oil in the seeds is light, and birds need oil to make their feathers aerodynamically efficient.
Besides the psychoactive resin in the plant, there is also 'stem oil,' which seems nasty by nature. If these people move out, and their symptoms remit, then likely this is their problem.
Anyway, this woman is well within her rights to complain, she isn't seeking the diminution of her neighbors rights, she is simply trying to compel her neighbor to operate with less collateral. He should get a detached house and an electrician. Those who do not have direct experience of these situations are offering opinions without evidence.
 
2012-08-29 09:36:58 AM  

Jon iz teh kewl: cheeba chew mon!

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Ban Comic Sans 

/font nazi
 
2012-08-29 09:38:13 AM  
She is worried for her children and fears what she doesn't understand, communication and education are key.
 
2012-08-29 09:39:02 AM  

lewismarktwo: FTFA "Bill Balafas with the Gilbert Police Department said this is a complex situation."

That's police speak for 'that biatch is crazy'.


that is correct.
 
2012-08-29 09:48:02 AM  

Dire: For me, it's more like a smoke allergy


Sounds like horeshiat.

Did your genetic line spontaneously appear within the last 100 years?
 
2012-08-29 10:15:54 AM  

Attila the Mom: This. I don't know how I'd react to the plants themselves (never having seen a live one), but I get ill if I've even been around someone who smokes it heavily. My eyes start to burn, my sinuses and throat swell up...I could always tell which one of my kids' friends were smokin' the weed.
I once had a pretty violent reaction just standing next to a guy at Blockbuster. It sucks. I haven't been to a concert in 20 years.


Have you considered picking up some extra work as a narc?
 
2012-08-29 10:17:20 AM  

cretinbob: Tigger: It's farking tonsilitis strep throat, you moron.


Herpes from blowing the doctor next door all the time.

/Paging Dr. Sandusky
 
2012-08-29 10:38:27 AM  
"medical marijuana" haha. That's a funny oxymoron. Ah... the excuses potheads'll come up with just to get high.
 
2012-08-29 10:44:16 AM  
There is an allergy test for pot. It's been in the general allergy profile they run for people with unknown seasonal allergies in Arizona for years.
Here's the article from 1983 about the test when they were first running it.
 
2012-08-29 10:49:58 AM  
"What other kind of chemicals are they going to grow before we all of a sudden have another fire and we didn't know about it?"

I can assure ma'am, if there IS another fire, it is quite likely YOU will be aware of it!

And as others have pointed out, what other chemicals are they gonna grow? Obviously, since the ebil weedies is a gateway drug, they will start growing the Crack Extacy and Heroin plants next!

The generator/power issue DOES need to be resolved, IANAG and I can't imagine playing near it would be healthy for children. Hopefully that issue can be resolved soon and the helicopter mom can blame someone else for her children's exotic illnesses.
 
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