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(The Smoking Gun)   4-year-old boy tells cops the beer shots his mother gave him at the pub "tasted funny and made him laugh a lot." Sounds like the kid has life all figured out already   (thesmokinggun.com) divider line 71
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2012-08-28 04:20:05 PM  
If this is wrong, I don't wanna be right.
 
2012-08-28 04:20:09 PM  
i.qkme.me
 
2012-08-28 04:22:19 PM  
Well apparently you can't give them pot now, how the hell else is a parent supposed to get them to sleep?
 
2012-08-28 04:22:28 PM  
Drews mom gave hm vodak.
 
2012-08-28 04:23:02 PM  
Is there some sort of adaptation going on right before our eyes, perhaps a race of bright pink people? I've seen them in the news a lot, and they're a bunch of trouble makers.
 
2012-08-28 04:23:20 PM  

jayhawk88: Well apparently you can't give them pot now, how the hell else is a parent supposed to get them to sleep?


You know that soft spot they have in their skulls? Firm but gentle pressure for about a minute will buy you a few moments of "me time".
 
2012-08-28 04:24:35 PM  
I guess that was a Very Happy Meal.
 
2012-08-28 04:27:24 PM  
Cheese and rice, who hasn't tasted dad's beer when we were kids?
I'll give you that it was at home and not a pub.
 
2012-08-28 04:28:43 PM  
If your beer tastes funny then you must be drinking quality American beer.
 
2012-08-28 04:29:07 PM  
I bet his best friend is that huge asian kid that smokes.
 
2012-08-28 04:30:34 PM  
Holy fark, I used to work there.

Doesn't surprise me, people used to line up at the door at 10am for our "Bloody Mary Buffet." Was in a classy-ish area but for some reason attracted white trash.
 
2012-08-28 04:30:57 PM  
That seems kinda harsh to take someone's child away for giving them a few sips of beer.
 
2012-08-28 04:33:08 PM  
Heaven forbid what the US would do to some German parents I've seen in Munich beer halls

/Saw Grandparents give their 5ish year old grandson a watered down beer - after taking a few sips he just started chugging it
 
2012-08-28 04:33:10 PM  
I farking despise people who bring their kids to the bar. And no a sports bar that might serve burgers is not an appropriate place for kids, either. Lost count how many confrontations I've gotten into because stupid people think a drinking establishment is an ok place for kids.

//No, I'm sure my alcoholic dad taking me to the bar as a kid probably has nothing to do with my strong feelings on the matter.
 
2012-08-28 04:34:18 PM  
I was 8 or 9 when my pop gave me my 1st sip.

/Rheingold

//you needed a can-opener
 
2012-08-28 04:35:39 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: I farking despise people who bring their kids to the bar. And no a sports bar that might serve burgers is not an appropriate place for kids, either. Lost count how many confrontations I've gotten into because stupid people think a drinking establishment is an ok place for kids.

//No, I'm sure my alcoholic dad taking me to the bar as a kid probably has nothing to do with my strong feelings on the matter.


To be fair, McHales has a kids menu.
 
2012-08-28 04:36:15 PM  
God, the amount of farking busy bodies in this country is just staggering. That being said I already don't like small children being in bars or restaurants. But to call the cops over 3 shot glasses of beer?
 
2012-08-28 04:36:47 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: That seems kinda harsh to take someone's child away for giving them a few sips of beer.


Gonna have to agree with you but I also think there is cause for concern considering she is taking the kid to a bar and this:

Kinnear acknowledged that "about once or twice a week she drinks wine at her home" and allows her son "to have some."

No I have let my kids sip my wine but it only took once before they decided it was the nastiest grape juice they ever had and didn't ask again. If she says "a couple times a week" you can be sure it is every damn day. The kid has it so much he acquired a taste for it?
 
2012-08-28 04:37:51 PM  

The Southern Logic Company: Ow! That was my feelings!: I farking despise people who bring their kids to the bar. And no a sports bar that might serve burgers is not an appropriate place for kids, either. Lost count how many confrontations I've gotten into because stupid people think a drinking establishment is an ok place for kids.

//No, I'm sure my alcoholic dad taking me to the bar as a kid probably has nothing to do with my strong feelings on the matter.

To be fair, McHales has a kids menu.


It is a restaurant that happens to serve booze, fine. I've just too often witnessed kids in a real bar.
 
2012-08-28 04:39:40 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: The Southern Logic Company: Ow! That was my feelings!: I farking despise people who bring their kids to the bar. And no a sports bar that might serve burgers is not an appropriate place for kids, either. Lost count how many confrontations I've gotten into because stupid people think a drinking establishment is an ok place for kids.

//No, I'm sure my alcoholic dad taking me to the bar as a kid probably has nothing to do with my strong feelings on the matter.

To be fair, McHales has a kids menu.

It is If it's a restaurant that happens to serve booze, fine. I've just too often witnessed kids in a real bar.

 
2012-08-28 04:42:46 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: I farking despise people who bring their kids to the bar. And no a sports bar that might serve burgers is not an appropriate place for kids, either. Lost count how many confrontations I've gotten into because stupid people think a drinking establishment is an ok place for kids.

//No, I'm sure my alcoholic dad taking me to the bar as a kid probably has nothing to do with my strong feelings on the matter.


Stay the hell out of Wisconsin. You can bring your 18 y/o kid with you to the bar, and as long as they can prove the adults are his/her parents the kid can drink. Plus they're pretty serious about their drinking.
/i just don't want to see you get hurt in all those confrontations you might get in.
 
2012-08-28 04:43:16 PM  
In Ohio it's legal for you to serve your own child alcohol even in a pub. The server can't serve the child but they can serve you and you can in turn serve your child. Of course age 4 and 3 'shot glasses' (three ounces?) is pretty far out there, even for European standards and I could see child negligence charges, as were brought up in this case. The child's testimony shouldn't be admissible, and I am suspect of the bystanders assessment of how much he drank.
 
2012-08-28 04:45:33 PM  

insertsnarkyusername: That being said I already don't like small children being in bars or restaurants.



My state has some shiatty laws, but on the plus side, kids are banned from bars and taverns...and that includes the bar sections of restaurants.
 
2012-08-28 04:49:32 PM  
Meanwhile, in Europe...
 
2012-08-28 04:55:50 PM  
100 beer shots in 100 minutes. Who's in?
 
2012-08-28 04:57:16 PM  

chachi88: 100 beer shots in 100 minutes. Who's in?


OOH, century club!
 
2012-08-28 04:58:58 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: I farking despise people who bring their kids to the bar. And no a sports bar that might serve burgers is not an appropriate place for kids, either. Lost count how many confrontations I've gotten into because stupid people think a drinking establishment is an ok place for kids.

//No, I'm sure my alcoholic dad taking me to the bar as a kid probably has nothing to do with my strong feelings on the matter.


F-U

Seriously just because your dad was a drunk doesn't mean bonding with the old man and his pals at a sports bar is a bad thing. Showing kids how to responsibly use alcohol is the key. I'm guessing your dad being a drunk wasn't really concerned with you, you were just there.
 
2012-08-28 05:00:24 PM  
Well 4 is a bit young. I myself was at least 5 and a half when I got my first watered down beer in celebration of the first milk tooth coming off.


/Tooth fairy? Candy?
//You Muricans sure are funny.
 
2012-08-28 05:02:23 PM  
100 beer shots in 100 minutes. Who's in?

I'm in. It's only 8 US pints in two hours to hit a gallon, that's cake... well assuming you aren't drinking some killer 8% abv beer.
 
2012-08-28 05:03:10 PM  
Hey rest of the world except Muslim countries! Everyone point at the United States and laugh!
 
2012-08-28 05:03:26 PM  

LeroyBourne: Stay the hell out of Wisconsin. You can bring your 18 y/o kid with you to the bar, and as long as they can prove the adults are his/her parents the kid can drink. Plus they're pretty serious about their drinking.


Adults drinking? Oh the horror!
 
2012-08-28 05:03:29 PM  
That is in a classy area, I live right around the corner. I've been there a couple times and there are some interesting clientele. Their beer selection is pretty good, but I doubt it was craft beer the kid was drinking.
 
2012-08-28 05:03:55 PM  

chachi88: 100 beer shots in 100 minutes. Who's in?


pffft... lightweight...
 
2012-08-28 05:05:08 PM  

kindms: Ow! That was my feelings!: I farking despise people who bring their kids to the bar. And no a sports bar that might serve burgers is not an appropriate place for kids, either. Lost count how many confrontations I've gotten into because stupid people think a drinking establishment is an ok place for kids.

//No, I'm sure my alcoholic dad taking me to the bar as a kid probably has nothing to do with my strong feelings on the matter.

F-U

Seriously just because your dad was a drunk doesn't mean bonding with the old man and his pals at a sports bar is a bad thing. Showing kids how to responsibly use alcohol is the key. I'm guessing your dad being a drunk wasn't really concerned with you, you were just there.


I'm not talking about someone taking their 18yr old "kid" to the bar. I'm talking about people taking their 8 year old to the bar. Not a restaurant, a BAR.

And fark you too.
 
2012-08-28 05:06:36 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: That seems kinda harsh to take someone's child away for giving them a few sips of beer.


True, but having to tell the kid it's tea like in TFA seems a little fishy to me.
 
2012-08-28 05:07:24 PM  

kindms: Ow! That was my feelings!: I farking despise people who bring their kids to the bar. And no a sports bar that might serve burgers is not an appropriate place for kids, either. Lost count how many confrontations I've gotten into because stupid people think a drinking establishment is an ok place for kids.

//No, I'm sure my alcoholic dad taking me to the bar as a kid probably has nothing to do with my strong feelings on the matter.

F-U

Seriously just because your dad was a drunk doesn't mean bonding with the old man and his pals at a sports bar is a bad thing. Showing kids how to responsibly use alcohol is the key. I'm guessing your dad being a drunk wasn't really concerned with you, you were just there.


exactly, every dad who brings a kid into a bar isn't doing what your dad did.
 
2012-08-28 05:08:04 PM  

chachi88: 100 beer shots in 100 minutes. Who's in?


Tell me how that went..tried that in High School.
 
2012-08-28 05:08:17 PM  
My kids (10 and under) are going to learn how to make beer before they can start drinking it. They've tasted my beers, but don't like them yet. But they were IPAs which is a given.

// looking forward to when I can include brewing a batch of beer as their chores.
 
2012-08-28 05:08:53 PM  

LeroyBourne: Stay the hell out of Wisconsin. You can bring your 18 y/o kid with you to the bar, and as long as they can prove the adults are his/her parents the kid can drink.


Doesn't have to be 18. In fact I don't know if there is even is a minimum age. What that women was doing may well be legal here.
 
2012-08-28 05:10:01 PM  

W.C.fields forever: chachi88: 100 beer shots in 100 minutes. Who's in?

Tell me how that went..tried that in High School.


And remember kids.You have to use a shot glass.
 
2012-08-28 05:12:56 PM  
Having eaten at this establishment... I'd say they should be more worried about the fact they were EATING at mchales. also note: just because you paint shamrocks and clovers on a really crappy resturant, it's doesnt magically make it an Irish bar , or good.

We need a South Carolina tag.
 
2012-08-28 05:13:12 PM  

jayhawk88: Well apparently you can't give them pot now, how the hell else is a parent supposed to get them to sleep?


Benedryl. Dramamine. Rum in their formula?

/Was always too chicken to try this with my kids, but have heard stories....
 
2012-08-28 05:15:48 PM  

The_Sponge: insertsnarkyusername: That being said I already don't like small children being in bars or restaurants.


My state has some shiatty laws, but on the plus side, kids are banned from bars and taverns...and that includes the bar sections of restaurants.


I'm in the same state as you. Unfortunately they are not banned from tasting rooms and a lot of rural bars don't give a shiat about kids being in them.
 
2012-08-28 05:16:57 PM  
 
2012-08-28 05:20:07 PM  
I can understand the bar owners/bartenders telling her to cut that shiat out - good way to lose your license, knowingly serving alcohol to kids.

That mother needs a slap upside her head. For those who dnrtfa, it was going on at home, too.
 
2012-08-28 05:22:53 PM  

gopher321: I can understand the bar owners/bartenders telling her to cut that shiat out - good way to lose your license, knowingly serving alcohol to kids.

That mother needs a slap upside her head. For those who dnrtfa, it was going on at home, too.


It's just beer...
 
2012-08-28 05:23:46 PM  
Ok..... I must admit that I laughed at some of the really sick comments posted in this thread....

But I really hope nobody is truly defending giving a 4 YEAR OLD a shot of beer (THREE shots according to the article). If your kid is 7 or eight and you want to show them that alcohol is a drink for when they get older? Give them a shot... I'm ok with that... They are old enough to decide if they want another.

But a 4 year old? That's child abuse. The should take her kid away from her. She's clearly a drunk who wants the kid to sleep through the night so she's not bothered as she's sleeping her bender off.
 
2012-08-28 05:26:30 PM  

snarfyboy: LeroyBourne: Stay the hell out of Wisconsin. You can bring your 18 y/o kid with you to the bar, and as long as they can prove the adults are his/her parents the kid can drink.

Doesn't have to be 18. In fact I don't know if there is even is a minimum age. What that women was doing may well be legal here.


Yeah, I didn't feel like looking up the facts, but I recall seeing this girl and her parents at this bar and grill and they were all blasted. Very classy. My cousin is from WI, and I'm from MN, he knew her and iirc(this was a long time ago) she was 16.
 
2012-08-28 05:26:42 PM  
"... and suddenly Mommy started looking really pretty!"
 
2012-08-28 05:28:25 PM  
CSB time:

My dad used to love telling this story. Now, my dad was an alcoholic sonofabiatch, but he was a good time guy, and there is no way I can tell this story as well as he could, so I'll paraphrase.

When I was 3, I was pestering my dad for some of his vodka on the rocks.

"Dink, daddy, dink!" I kept saying.

Apparently, this kept going on and on, so he had the notion that if he gave me a sip, I'd revile and leave him alone.

So, he gives me the glass, and I take a sip. Moments later, my eyes widen, I smile, and proceed to try to toss back the whole kit and kaboodle. Dad grabs for the glass, and it spills, showering me in a shower of ice and vokak.

It makes a strong argument that alcoholics are born, not made.
 
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