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2012-08-28 09:07:09 PM

dittybopper: Continuez, mon fils égaré,
il y aura la paix quand vous avez terminé.
Placez votre tête fatiguée pour se reposer,
Ne pleure plus.


THIS

\Quebec has a right to be
\\not a seperatist
 
2012-08-28 09:11:19 PM

clevershark: Also that headline was clearly written by Google. What we'd say for "oh, not this shiat again" is "ah, pas encore ça tabarnac".


I'd go with "pancore!". But to each their own.
 
2012-08-28 09:59:03 PM
Bien fait subby. Merci pour le mort de rire.
 
2012-08-28 10:10:11 PM

RanDomino: It has nothing to do with separatism and everything to do with the student strike. Really, none of you know about it? Repeated quarter million -turnout rallies, classes canceled, thousands of people fighting police (and sometimes winning)? Yes? No?


There is some souverainiste sentiment among the student strikers (how's that for alliteration?), but I don't sense that the students' demands are what this election is being fought about. Furthermore, the student strikes are winding down now that the new school year is beginning.

I think that whoever wrote the Yahoo article is being alarmist. It doesn't necessarily follow that a PQ win will generate a referendum. After the 1995 referendum resulted in a win for the "Non," the PQ governed for eight years without calling for a new referendum. Even now, Marois is talking much more about the economy, social services, and strengthening Bill 101 than about plans for a referendum.

What *is* clear to me is that some Canadian commenters here get their balls in an uproar every time this subject is mentioned.
 
2012-08-28 10:43:40 PM

dittybopper: AverageAmericanGuy: Zarquon's Flat Tire: So is Quebec the Canadian Texas?

The Canadian Kansas.

Continuez, mon fils égaré,
il y aura la paix quand vous avez terminé.
Placez votre tête fatiguée pour se reposer,
Ne pleure plus.


Thank you for getting that song stuck in my head. Damn you.

/Merde, merde, merde, merde
 
2012-08-28 10:48:02 PM
Bondith
Quitcherbloody whining and get your entitled asses back in the classroom. $300 and this is the response?

It would seem like a lot if you had the balls to fight for your own well-being instead of rolling over like you always do. It's only $300 because this is the response. These students aren't so stupid that they think it will stop there! So, are you going to emulate them and maybe upgrade your own standard of living (or at least stop its deterioration) or complain about people who are actually willing to fight because it's easier and you're a lazy piece of shiat?
 
2012-08-28 11:05:44 PM

tirob: RanDomino: It has nothing to do with separatism and everything to do with the student strike. Really, none of you know about it? Repeated quarter million -turnout rallies, classes canceled, thousands of people fighting police (and sometimes winning)? Yes? No?

There is some souverainiste sentiment among the student strikers (how's that for alliteration?), but I don't sense that the students' demands are what this election is being fought about. Furthermore, the student strikes are winding down now that the new school year is beginning.

I think that whoever wrote the Yahoo article is being alarmist. It doesn't necessarily follow that a PQ win will generate a referendum. After the 1995 referendum resulted in a win for the "Non," the PQ governed for eight years without calling for a new referendum. Even now, Marois is talking much more about the economy, social services, and strengthening Bill 101 than about plans for a referendum.

What *is* clear to me is that some Canadian commenters here get their balls in an uproar every time this subject is mentioned.


Exactly.

For god's sake, people, us Quebecers voted the Bloc (which only short-sighted separatists voted for anyway) right off the freakin' map and opted to back a party that actually wants to do something on a national rather than provincial scale for a change. Do you honestly think that the PQ, which will have a minority government if it manages to come out ahead at all, will call for a referendum the next day? Or even on the short-term? Hells no, and if you do think that, you are one paranoid anglo. Marois will tackle education, money and corruption issues right off the bat to "get the house in order", and will be blocked every step of the way by the Liberal Party and Coalition Avenir Québec (CAQ), which will most likely comprise the opposition, as they wait for their shot at re-election. Hell, maybe even Québec Solidaire, the left-leaning party who also has independence on its platform (thought not as vehemently touted as the PQ), will probably impeded any delusions the PQ has of actually governing this province.

Quebecers are tired of the Liberals, but look at the choices they have: PQ (yay separatism! again!), the CAQ (yay cutting social programs and limiting immigration for the sake of cultural integrity!), Québec Solidaire (yay even more taxes 'cuz what the hell let's hike post-retirement payments for the elderly even though the aging population will soon have an insufficient taxpayer base to support it!) or the little known Option Nationale (yay underdog with no exposure that also wants to separate!). What's more, all the newly-minted voters are balls-deep in the student protest, so no way are they tossing their support to Charest or the CAQ. In a way, the protest is a boon to the PQ. If it hadn't happen, the Libs would've been unceremoniously sworn back in.

In essence, the reason the separatists have any sort of traction again is due to an event that is making people want to choose what they perceive as the lesser of two evils. It's deeply sad and unfortunate, but trust me, there will be no more referendums. The only positive thing I can attribute to the PQ is its desire to keep natural resources in Québec, thereby strengthening the economy, instead of just letting anyone waltz in and profit. Unfortunately, that's very much eclipsed by their incessant separatist rant.
 
2012-08-28 11:12:56 PM

Savage Bacon: tirob: RanDomino: It has nothing to do with separatism and everything to do with the student strike. Really, none of you know about it? Repeated quarter million -turnout rallies, classes canceled, thousands of people fighting police (and sometimes winning)? Yes? No?

There is some souverainiste sentiment among the student strikers (how's that for alliteration?), but I don't sense that the students' demands are what this election is being fought about. Furthermore, the student strikes are winding down now that the new school year is beginning.

I think that whoever wrote the Yahoo article is being alarmist. It doesn't necessarily follow that a PQ win will generate a referendum. After the 1995 referendum resulted in a win for the "Non," the PQ governed for eight years without calling for a new referendum. Even now, Marois is talking much more about the economy, social services, and strengthening Bill 101 than about plans for a referendum.

What *is* clear to me is that some Canadian commenters here get their balls in an uproar every time this subject is mentioned.

Exactly.

For god's sake, people, us Quebecers voted the Bloc (which only short-sighted separatists voted for anyway) right off the freakin' map and opted to back a party that actually wants to do something on a national rather than provincial scale for a change. Do you honestly think that the PQ, which will have a minority government if it manages to come out ahead at all, will call for a referendum the next day? Or even on the short-term? Hells no, and if you do think that, you are one paranoid anglo. Marois will tackle education, money and corruption issues right off the bat to "get the house in order", and will be blocked every step of the way by the Liberal Party and Coalition Avenir Québec (CAQ), which will most likely comprise the opposition, as they wait for their shot at re-election. Hell, maybe even Québec Solidaire, the left-leaning party who also has independence on its platform (thought not ...


That was a calm and insightful summation, and I wish I'd read it before I opened my yap.
 
2012-08-28 11:23:30 PM
Let them go. It'll cut 6 hours off the drive to New Brunswick......

/Can't believe I'm in first with this....
 
2012-08-29 12:16:20 AM
We've been farked in the ass by the Liberals for the last ten years...

What people tend to forget is that, before that, we got farked in the ass by the PQ for nearly a decade before that.

Prior to that? Bourassa. Let's be honest, a semi-intelligent mould, or a slightly retarded pidgeon would have been better than Bourassa.

People, Quebec needs actual goddamned leadership, not the professional graft-artists we've had for the last 20 years.

And to the Rest of Canada, as an Anglo, a staunch federalist and someone with the brainpower to manage TWO (that's 2) languages: Yes, Quebec sponges money. Yes, Quebec whines a lot. But Ontario is broke as fark too. So are most of the Maratime Provinces, and if it wasn't for Montreal industry a hundred years ago, Alberta would still be a wasteland. So fark off a bit, yeah? Let us, real patriots who live here and love Canada and have stayed for generations, fight the fight we have to. You can biatch and moan to yourselves, but we deal with this shiat every goddamned day, and we don't need the static.

Let's lay off the anti-French comments, try to understand one another, and at least pretend like Canadians have all the big-boy words we need to make our country work and maybe, maybe I won't have to frig off to another province in the next five years.
 
2012-08-29 01:10:52 AM
If the PQ has a referendum early in their term, they will lose. They aren't ahead because of their separatism but in spite of it. If the Charest Liberals were less corrupt and incompetent, the PQ would be losing.

Later in the term is different. Some prominent separatists (Pierre Lisée among them) have basically admitted that the fact that the Supreme Court is going to smack down the blatantly unconstitutional legislation they're proposing that would ban public servants from wearing "ostentatious" religious symbols (Turbans, Hijabs, yarmulkes are out, but a cross on a chain is ok, as are the giant crucifix in the National Assembly and the municipalities that open council meetings with a Christian prayer) is a feature, not a bug. Then they can rile everyone up about the 'foreign' court striking down Québec law based on a Charter Québec didn't sign. Of course the Québec Court of Appeal will probably strike it down too, but never mind. 

/and it should be "pas encore c'te merde là, callisse!", subby
 
2012-08-29 01:28:30 AM
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2012-08-29 01:28:41 AM
This province is a mess as it is. The next government is going to be busy enough cleaning up the mess that the last 10 years of willful, corrupt neglect brought about before thinking of moving onto something else.
 
2012-08-29 10:46:23 AM
Coboc
Let's lay off the anti-French comments, try to understand one another, and at least pretend like Canadians have all the big-boy words we need to make our country work and maybe, maybe I won't have to frig off to another province in the next five years.

Wish I'd read this first too. Why can't the sensible comments be at the top of the thread?
 
2012-08-29 11:34:28 AM

vudukungfu: As an Algonquin, I'm amused at the bruhaha over the border.


Are you a member of the round table?
 
2012-08-29 12:56:45 PM
It's too bad the English let them keep the French language after the The Battle of The Plains of Abraham.

The French victim culture up there is nauseating. Those idiots wouldn't know true victimhood if it ran up and bit them in their butts. Maybe they feel like victims because they're trapped in a dying language and have to learn English to get any decent jobs above McDonald's.

French is a slave language that traps those who aren't bilingual in one province without any chance of true upward mobility, since they cannot communicate with the rest of Canada or any Americans.
 
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