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2012-08-28 10:51:31 AM
5 votes:
these guys are borderline obscene.

the welfare attack is pure racist dog whistle shiat. not only is it completely untrue - romney himself lobbied for the same provisions as governor of mass.

romney is a racist, lying sack of shiat. that's all.
2012-08-28 01:38:30 PM
2 votes:

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: That's what I'm saying. Unless you believe that nihilism is, itself, evil - and I can certainly see the merit in such an argument - then Mitt Romney is not evil. He's just piling up honors and wealth for himself, for no other reason than that is what he does.


Well, while I don't believe Mitt Romney himself is evil (in part because that, in some ways, obviates him of responsibility: He only does bad things because that's all he can do, like a rabbiatchewing on crap), I will say that the way he does such is evil. But that's because I think I've gained a good bit of my definition of sin/evil from a Terry Pratchett book.

"And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That's what sin is."
"It's a lot more complicated than that--"
"No it ain't. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they're getting worried that they won't like the truth. People as things, that's where it starts."
"Oh, I'm sure there are worse crimes-"
"But they Starts with thinking about people as things..."
2012-08-28 01:24:09 PM
2 votes:
"Fact checkers come to this with their own sets of thoughts and beliefs, and we're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact checkers,"

If this were the case they wouldn't be fact checkers, they would be spin doctors.
2012-08-28 01:17:44 PM
2 votes:

Weaver95: And the problem for Romney is that the rest of the country has figured out he's just lying his ass off as much as possible.


No. We haven't.. Some of us want to be lied to, because we want to hate Obama. Some of us are very stupid and will believe what we're told.
2012-08-28 01:15:44 PM
2 votes:

FlashHarry: romney is a racist, lying sack of shiat. that's all.


No. Romney just wants to be President. Everything he does is in service of that. If he lies, it's not because he is a liar (although the act of lying makes him one) it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president. If he acts like a sack of sh*t, it's not because he is a sack of sh*t (although the act of acting like a sack of sh*t does make him one), it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president.

My only question is why. Why in the hell does he want to be President?
2012-08-28 11:36:56 AM
2 votes:
If what they spout out reinforces their bases preconceived notions, the fact that it's a lie is irrelevant. And they know that most of the undecideds are too lazy, too involved in non-political things to pay any attention to the fact-checkers.
2012-08-28 11:16:35 AM
2 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: Maybe the GOP would be happier if we just brought back indentured servitude.


Maybe? Newt Gingrich ran on a plan of "fire school janitors and replace them with the poor kids."
2012-08-28 11:14:29 AM
2 votes:

Weaver95: nah, the Romney people can't possibly be that stupid! the headline is probably just and exaggeration.

*reads article*

Oh my f*cking gods....you said...with reporters standing....

*blink* *blink*

you people are screwed. completely, totally and in every possibly way...screwed.


No they aren't. 30% of the voters will automatically check his name off, and he's got enough money to convince 10-15% of the voters that Obama did something bad to them, personally.

I worry about that last 5-6%
2012-08-28 11:09:39 AM
2 votes:
They never let the facts get in the way of anything before, why start now?
2012-08-28 10:47:14 AM
2 votes:
Can't let those pesky facts get in the way of our campaign.
2012-08-28 03:04:14 PM
1 votes:

RumsfeldsReplacement: RumsfeldsReplacement: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: FlashHarry: romney is a racist, lying sack of shiat. that's all.

No. Romney just wants to be President. Everything he does is in service of that. If he lies, it's not because he is a liar (although the act of lying makes him one) it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president. If he acts like a sack of sh*t, it's not because he is a sack of sh*t (although the act of acting like a sack of sh*t does make him one), it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president.

My only question is why. Why in the hell does he want to be President?

Honestly, my guess is Mitt wants to be President because his dad never was, and Mitt needs that as some sort of weird validation thing.

On that note, I think Obama should mention Mitt's tax returns in the first 5 minutes of the first debate, and close the comment by saying "Your father would be so ashamed of you". Mitt would be completely flustered for the rest of it.



Even my Republican friends on FB agree he needs to at least publish as many years as his dad. They are Hannity/Rush mouthbreathers and this notion that he wont is driving them nuts. Of course Tommy Thompson flat out said no to publishing his until "after I'm elected" I cant believe more people are pissed about not sharing his tax returns
2012-08-28 02:48:37 PM
1 votes:

RumsfeldsReplacement: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: FlashHarry: romney is a racist, lying sack of shiat. that's all.

No. Romney just wants to be President. Everything he does is in service of that. If he lies, it's not because he is a liar (although the act of lying makes him one) it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president. If he acts like a sack of sh*t, it's not because he is a sack of sh*t (although the act of acting like a sack of sh*t does make him one), it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president.

My only question is why. Why in the hell does he want to be President?

Honestly, my guess is Mitt wants to be President because his dad never was, and Mitt needs that as some sort of weird validation thing.


On that note, I think Obama should mention Mitt's tax returns in the first 5 minutes of the first debate, and close the comment by saying "Your father would be so ashamed of you". Mitt would be completely flustered for the rest of it.
2012-08-28 02:47:00 PM
1 votes:

impaler: In the '08 crash, Mitt Romney, like many others, took losses in his U.S. investments. With a net zero income inside the United States, Romney applied for and received food stamps from the state of Massachusetts, despite making over $4 billion dollars in China that year.


Copypaste it to an email, add pictures of Romney looking evil and/or stupid, and forward it to every crazy uncle you can find.
2012-08-28 02:31:42 PM
1 votes:
In the '08 crash, Mitt Romney, like many others, took losses in his investments. With a net zero income, Romney applied for and received food stamps from the state of Massachusetts.

Real Americans don't fact-check.
2012-08-28 02:16:02 PM
1 votes:
The website PolitiFact is going to be truth-squadding the Republican convention speakers this week, delivering verdicts on which claims are "mostly true" and which deserve a "pants on fire" rating. Our advice: Pay no attention to those ratings. PolitiFact can't be trusted to get the story right.

Well, it's official. Mark your calendars: AUGUST 28, 2012 - the day Republicans officially declared war on facts.

Who has the "People/things conspiring against the GOP, and therefore America" list? We can finally add "Facts" to the list in a serious and non-joking matter.
2012-08-28 01:47:23 PM
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: Wyalt Derp: they give up any right to whine about something a pro-Obama superpac puts out (not that that will stop them).

I forgot where in the Constitution you give up your free speech rights based on complaining about a superpac ad.
Can you remind me where that is?


I think he was trying to say it would be extremely hypocritical, this is a word you wouldn't understand so I can see why you responded the way you did.
2012-08-28 01:42:26 PM
1 votes:
It wouldn't take much to persuade me that Romney is actually a decent human being in person. Not nearly as charismatic and suave as Obama, but not a greedy, selfish bastard.

But he's going to lose this campaign because he has surrounded himself with the most blatantly incompetent morons. Every day I think I have a handle on how retarded they can be, and almost every day they surprise the living shiat out of me.
2012-08-28 01:40:43 PM
1 votes:
I would turn right around and make this an ad, if I were a Democratic strategist. And broaden it -- apply it to everything Romney has said or done. And punctuate it hard, with the closing:

"The fact is, Romney is unfit to lead."
2012-08-28 01:30:22 PM
1 votes:
"Fact checkers come to this with their own sets of thoughts and beliefs, and we're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact checkers," he said. The fact-checkers - whose institutional rise has been a feature of the cycle - have "jumped the shark," he added after the panel.

Yeah, the "thoughts and beliefs" of making sure that your claims are based in reality, you stupid moron.

Seriously, Obama need to use this damn quote, that's all the campaign has to say.
2012-08-28 01:28:42 PM
1 votes:
2012-08-28 01:27:11 PM
1 votes:

d23: There is a huge payoff for Romney if he wins. There has to be.


Why? Why can't he just be in it for the win? If anything, his apparent inability to prepare for simple complications in the future - such as the inevitable questions about his finances, and the fact that he only held companies long enough to rape the sh*t out of them and suck the marrow from their bones - describes a man that just wants what he wants when he wants it. He piles up his treasure higher and higher, with seemingly no greater purpose than to stack paper to the ceiling. He doesn't build anything. He hasn't created anything. What is he, then, if not simply an accumulation machine?
d23 [TotalFark]
2012-08-28 01:21:31 PM
1 votes:
He doesn't crave power for power's sake.

There is a huge payoff for Romney if he wins. There has to be.
2012-08-28 01:19:14 PM
1 votes:
....but it's Obama that's running the "negative" campaign right Mitt?
2012-08-28 01:16:14 PM
1 votes:
"We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by facts checkers"

FTFY
2012-08-28 01:15:57 PM
1 votes:
Anything to distract from those tax returns, eh Team Willard? Too bad they'll keep bobbing back up.
2012-08-28 01:15:48 PM
1 votes:

Via Infinito: Can't let those pesky facts get in the way of our campaign.


Yes, this was being bandied about last week on some AM radio and some comments. Those "fact checkers" are partisan, derp, derp, derp.

The GOP hasn't figured out that not everyone is under their echo chamber control. That's a great message for the base, but it will do nothing for the swing voter. This isn't 2001, nobody is cowed by 9/11 or any other event. The GOP still thinks they can just bully the electorate into complying with them.

What a load of fail.
2012-08-28 01:05:36 PM
1 votes:

Jackson Herring: "Our most effective ad is our welfare ad," a top television advertising strategist for Romney, Ashley O'Connor, said at a forum Tuesday hosted by ABCNews and Yahoo! News. "It's new information."

farking kill yourselves, you disgusting farking human trash cans


remember - this is the party of 'moral values'.
2012-08-28 12:22:20 PM
1 votes:
McCain quote. Lied.
Build that. Lied.
Welfare. Lied.

Tax returns?

www.crushi.com
2012-08-28 12:05:41 PM
1 votes:

flaEsq: They never let the facts get in the way of anything before, why start now?


No kidding.

"For years, the GOP has been burdened with facts stopping us from getting public support for our insane ideas. But what if we simply ignore facts from here on out? What if we just make up a whole bunch of crazy shiat, and say that it's true, and say that the people who say that our lies aren't true are just part of the liberal conspiracy? This is our best game plan, and we're moving forward with it."
2012-08-28 11:47:27 AM
1 votes:
3.bp.blogspot.com
2012-08-28 11:45:21 AM
1 votes:

Dusk-You-n-Me: It has got to suck to have to vote for Romney.


That's the thing: folks don't have to. They will choose to, and curse their luck, as opposed to voting for better candidates, because team matters more than good men and women in office...
2012-08-28 11:44:05 AM
1 votes:
Facts? Who needs facts, when you have narrative?

This is the issue that I have with the willful misconstrueance of subjective reality, and sadly, they live by this willful misdirection of the concept...
2012-08-28 11:42:35 AM
1 votes:
It has got to suck to have to vote for Romney.
2012-08-28 11:40:14 AM
1 votes:

palladiate:

How are they screwed? Those same reporters aren't entirely stupid; they know about Willard's disdain of the truth already. They can't call him out on that without at least half of their audience tuning out because they're now "liberal journalists."


They call him on it plenty. The difference is that most candidates have some sort of moral or ethical core that could be impacted by being called a liar, or pointed out how something they said was untrue. The Romneybot 2012 has no such weaknesses; it feels no emotion, no greater sense of purpose, no love for it's fellow man. He knows he is lying. It is a calculated gamble to simply ignore reality until they win.
2012-08-28 11:31:42 AM
1 votes:
Lie to everyone, just like Jesus wanted.
2012-08-28 11:24:05 AM
1 votes:
Romney/Ryan 2012: By Any Means Necessary
2012-08-28 11:17:28 AM
1 votes:

Weaver95: you people are screwed. completely, totally and in every possibly way...screwed.


How are they screwed? Those same reporters aren't entirely stupid; they know about Willard's disdain of the truth already. They can't call him out on that without at least half of their audience tuning out because they're now "liberal journalists."
2012-08-28 11:10:25 AM
1 votes:
For years we've been saying that reality has a liberal bias.

It's nice to see a campaign admit that.
2012-08-28 11:01:42 AM
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: Maybe the GOP would be happier if we just brought back indentured servitude.


There's no "maybe" about it.
2012-08-28 10:53:54 AM
1 votes:
piano wire

town square

then burn the bodies
 
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