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2012-08-28 10:47:14 AM
Can't let those pesky facts get in the way of our campaign.
 
2012-08-28 10:51:31 AM
these guys are borderline obscene.

the welfare attack is pure racist dog whistle shiat. not only is it completely untrue - romney himself lobbied for the same provisions as governor of mass.

romney is a racist, lying sack of shiat. that's all.
 
2012-08-28 10:53:54 AM
piano wire

town square

then burn the bodies
 
2012-08-28 10:57:23 AM
We gutted welfare back in the 90's. There's not much left to get upset about. Maybe the GOP would be happier if we just brought back indentured servitude.
 
2012-08-28 11:01:42 AM

Marcus Aurelius: Maybe the GOP would be happier if we just brought back indentured servitude.


There's no "maybe" about it.
 
2012-08-28 11:03:41 AM
nah, the Romney people can't possibly be that stupid! the headline is probably just and exaggeration.

*reads article*

Oh my f*cking gods....you said...with reporters standing....

*blink* *blink*

you people are screwed. completely, totally and in every possibly way...screwed.
 
2012-08-28 11:09:39 AM
They never let the facts get in the way of anything before, why start now?
 
2012-08-28 11:10:25 AM
For years we've been saying that reality has a liberal bias.

It's nice to see a campaign admit that.
 
2012-08-28 11:14:23 AM

Weaver95:
you people are screwed. completely, totally and in every possibly way...screwed.


i181.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-28 11:14:29 AM

Weaver95: nah, the Romney people can't possibly be that stupid! the headline is probably just and exaggeration.

*reads article*

Oh my f*cking gods....you said...with reporters standing....

*blink* *blink*

you people are screwed. completely, totally and in every possibly way...screwed.


No they aren't. 30% of the voters will automatically check his name off, and he's got enough money to convince 10-15% of the voters that Obama did something bad to them, personally.

I worry about that last 5-6%
 
2012-08-28 11:16:35 AM

Marcus Aurelius: Maybe the GOP would be happier if we just brought back indentured servitude.


Maybe? Newt Gingrich ran on a plan of "fire school janitors and replace them with the poor kids."
 
2012-08-28 11:17:28 AM

Weaver95: you people are screwed. completely, totally and in every possibly way...screwed.


How are they screwed? Those same reporters aren't entirely stupid; they know about Willard's disdain of the truth already. They can't call him out on that without at least half of their audience tuning out because they're now "liberal journalists."
 
2012-08-28 11:21:02 AM
"Our most effective ad is our welfare ad," a top television advertising strategist for Romney, Ashley O'Connor, said at a forum Tuesday hosted by ABCNews and Yahoo! News. "It's new information."

True, when you pull shat out of your arse it is indeed "new," but it doesn't actually qualify as "information."
 
2012-08-28 11:24:05 AM
Romney/Ryan 2012: By Any Means Necessary
 
2012-08-28 11:31:42 AM
Lie to everyone, just like Jesus wanted.
 
2012-08-28 11:36:56 AM
If what they spout out reinforces their bases preconceived notions, the fact that it's a lie is irrelevant. And they know that most of the undecideds are too lazy, too involved in non-political things to pay any attention to the fact-checkers.
 
2012-08-28 11:40:14 AM

palladiate:

How are they screwed? Those same reporters aren't entirely stupid; they know about Willard's disdain of the truth already. They can't call him out on that without at least half of their audience tuning out because they're now "liberal journalists."


They call him on it plenty. The difference is that most candidates have some sort of moral or ethical core that could be impacted by being called a liar, or pointed out how something they said was untrue. The Romneybot 2012 has no such weaknesses; it feels no emotion, no greater sense of purpose, no love for it's fellow man. He knows he is lying. It is a calculated gamble to simply ignore reality until they win.
 
2012-08-28 11:42:35 AM
It has got to suck to have to vote for Romney.
 
2012-08-28 11:44:05 AM
Facts? Who needs facts, when you have narrative?

This is the issue that I have with the willful misconstrueance of subjective reality, and sadly, they live by this willful misdirection of the concept...
 
2012-08-28 11:45:21 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: It has got to suck to have to vote for Romney.


That's the thing: folks don't have to. They will choose to, and curse their luck, as opposed to voting for better candidates, because team matters more than good men and women in office...
 
2012-08-28 11:47:27 AM
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-28 11:49:17 AM

vartian: It is a calculated gamble to simply ignore reality until they win.


And the problem for Romney is that the rest of the country has figured out he's just lying his ass off as much as possible.
 
2012-08-28 11:52:27 AM
Is there a link elsewhere for this story? For some reason, Buzzfeed is blocked at my work.
 
2012-08-28 12:00:13 PM

Weaver95: nah, the Romney people can't possibly be that stupid! the headline is probably just and exaggeration.

*reads article*

Oh my f*cking gods....you said...with reporters standing....

*blink* *blink*

you people are screwed. completely, totally and in every possibly way...screwed.


I can't decide if this year's GOP campaign is some elaborate sociological experiment like "The Wave", or... if our nation is crumbling.
 
2012-08-28 12:05:41 PM

flaEsq: They never let the facts get in the way of anything before, why start now?


No kidding.

"For years, the GOP has been burdened with facts stopping us from getting public support for our insane ideas. But what if we simply ignore facts from here on out? What if we just make up a whole bunch of crazy shiat, and say that it's true, and say that the people who say that our lies aren't true are just part of the liberal conspiracy? This is our best game plan, and we're moving forward with it."
 
2012-08-28 12:08:21 PM

Weaver95: vartian: It is a calculated gamble to simply ignore reality until they win.

And the problem for Romney is that the rest of the country has figured out he's just lying his ass off as much as possible.


I sure farking hope so :)
 
2012-08-28 12:14:34 PM
The interview this morning with Steve Inskeep and Rich Beeson was hilariously uncomfortable when they touched on this issue.

But, I do agree so-called "fact checkers" have jumped the shark (not sure that's the best term for it), a while ago.
 
2012-08-28 12:22:20 PM
McCain quote. Lied.
Build that. Lied.
Welfare. Lied.

Tax returns?

www.crushi.com
 
2012-08-28 12:59:08 PM

tallguywithglasseson: But, I do agree so-called "fact checkers" have jumped the shark (not sure that's the best term for it), a while ago.


Politifact certainly fell apart in a hurry.

/the funny thing is that the gop's bullshiat/whining is what destroyed the place
 
2012-08-28 01:02:30 PM
"Our most effective ad is our welfare ad," a top television advertising strategist for Romney, Ashley O'Connor, said at a forum Tuesday hosted by ABCNews and Yahoo! News. "It's new information."

farking kill yourselves, you disgusting farking human trash cans
 
2012-08-28 01:05:36 PM

Jackson Herring: "Our most effective ad is our welfare ad," a top television advertising strategist for Romney, Ashley O'Connor, said at a forum Tuesday hosted by ABCNews and Yahoo! News. "It's new information."

farking kill yourselves, you disgusting farking human trash cans


remember - this is the party of 'moral values'.
 
2012-08-28 01:07:55 PM

Weaver95: remember - this is the party of 'moral values'.


I am seriously going to have a farking aneurysm this election season. Every time the Romney campaign doubles down on an easily disproved lie about objective observable reality, my blood pressure rises measurably.
 
2012-08-28 01:09:07 PM
Obama should do an ad where he sticks Rafalca's head in the freezer and farks her from behind.0
 
2012-08-28 01:15:44 PM

FlashHarry: romney is a racist, lying sack of shiat. that's all.


No. Romney just wants to be President. Everything he does is in service of that. If he lies, it's not because he is a liar (although the act of lying makes him one) it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president. If he acts like a sack of sh*t, it's not because he is a sack of sh*t (although the act of acting like a sack of sh*t does make him one), it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president.

My only question is why. Why in the hell does he want to be President?
 
2012-08-28 01:15:48 PM

Via Infinito: Can't let those pesky facts get in the way of our campaign.


Yes, this was being bandied about last week on some AM radio and some comments. Those "fact checkers" are partisan, derp, derp, derp.

The GOP hasn't figured out that not everyone is under their echo chamber control. That's a great message for the base, but it will do nothing for the swing voter. This isn't 2001, nobody is cowed by 9/11 or any other event. The GOP still thinks they can just bully the electorate into complying with them.

What a load of fail.
 
2012-08-28 01:15:57 PM
Anything to distract from those tax returns, eh Team Willard? Too bad they'll keep bobbing back up.
 
2012-08-28 01:16:11 PM
Is the "obvious" tag on vacation or something?
 
2012-08-28 01:16:14 PM
"We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by facts checkers"

FTFY
 
2012-08-28 01:16:40 PM
Their racist winking could only be less subtle if it was the eye of Sauron doing the winking.
 
2012-08-28 01:17:06 PM
Anybody else still floored that there are still independent voters? How f-ing stupid are people?

/Don't answer that.
 
2012-08-28 01:17:20 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: FlashHarry: romney is a racist, lying sack of shiat. that's all.

No. Romney just wants to be President. Everything he does is in service of that. If he lies, it's not because he is a liar (although the act of lying makes him one) it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president. If he acts like a sack of sh*t, it's not because he is a sack of sh*t (although the act of acting like a sack of sh*t does make him one), it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president.

My only question is why. Why in the hell does he want to be President?


Because he wants to be president. He appears to crave power for power's sake; hence why his explanation of what he would do with that power is so... fluid.
 
2012-08-28 01:17:20 PM
Oh Poe's Law, you cheeky bastard!

*reads article*

God dammit.
 
2012-08-28 01:17:44 PM

Weaver95: And the problem for Romney is that the rest of the country has figured out he's just lying his ass off as much as possible.


No. We haven't.. Some of us want to be lied to, because we want to hate Obama. Some of us are very stupid and will believe what we're told.
 
2012-08-28 01:17:45 PM

Jackson Herring: Weaver95: remember - this is the party of 'moral values'.

I am seriously going to have a farking aneurysm this election season. Every time the Romney campaign doubles down on an easily disproved lie about objective observable reality, my blood pressure rises measurably.


don't sweat it, the liberal-drive-by-lamestream-media-conspiracy will make sure all of Romney's lies are exposed!
 
2012-08-28 01:18:07 PM
Lies: It's the Republican way.
 
2012-08-28 01:18:12 PM

Weaver95: vartian: It is a calculated gamble to simply ignore reality until they win.

And the problem for Romney is that the rest of the country has figured out he's just lying his ass off as much as possible.


Not enough of them have, for my liking. We still have a few months and 3 debates though, to make it happen.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2012-08-28 01:18:31 PM
They're not screwed. If the U.S. public cared about honesty, logic, and facts then Willard would of been flat out on his ass months ago.

It's the most illogical and unfair campaign season since the gilded age. Mittens could release a video where if screws a black boy on the hood of his car and he would still get the right-wing nutter vote.
 
2012-08-28 01:18:38 PM
"Fact checkers have jumped the shark."

Fantastic
 
2012-08-28 01:19:14 PM
....but it's Obama that's running the "negative" campaign right Mitt?
 
2012-08-28 01:19:50 PM

The Romney team: ignoring fact checkers so much, its site has mentioned them 70+ times in 4 mos. bit.ly/PpgyKH

- Greg Greene (@ggreeneva) August 28, 2012
 
2012-08-28 01:20:17 PM

HeartBurnKid: He appears to crave power for power's sake


I agree. I see no reason for him to want power other than a desire to accumulate it. I'm not saying I think he is an evil man and will do bad things with power - though I do see him attempting to enrich himself further, because that's what he does: pile up wealth and power. Seemingly for their own sake. I really have no use for such a nihilist. There's just no point to Romney. He is a machine, designed and built to accumulate things for himself.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2012-08-28 01:21:31 PM
He doesn't crave power for power's sake.

There is a huge payoff for Romney if he wins. There has to be.
 
2012-08-28 01:21:42 PM

d23: They're not screwed. If the U.S. public cared about honesty, logic, and facts then Willard would of been flat out on his ass months ago.

It's the most illogical and unfair campaign season since the gilded age. Mittens could release a video where if screws a black boy on the hood of his car and he would still get the right-wing nutter vote.


I think that is called a sandsusky continental.
 
2012-08-28 01:21:56 PM

what_now: Weaver95: nah, the Romney people can't possibly be that stupid! the headline is probably just and exaggeration.

*reads article*

Oh my f*cking gods....you said...with reporters standing....

*blink* *blink*

you people are screwed. completely, totally and in every possibly way...screwed.

No they aren't. 30% of the voters will automatically check his name off, and he's got enough money to convince 10-15% of the voters that Obama did something bad to them, personally.

I worry about that last 5-6%


I don't like to cloud my head full of "facts" and "a coherent understanding of my best interests". No, Sir, just a bunch of elitist nonsense. I like to call myself a "streamlined information" voter, in that I like to let as little actual information sway me as possible. Shiat, I don't even follow the news until about 2-3 hours the morning of election day.
 
2012-08-28 01:22:19 PM
If Romney somehow ekes out a win I think we Canadians should build a fence along our southern border...
 
2012-08-28 01:23:19 PM

clevershark: If Romney somehow ekes out a win I think we Canadians should build a fence along our southern border...


so you will be hiring?
 
2012-08-28 01:24:09 PM
"Fact checkers come to this with their own sets of thoughts and beliefs, and we're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact checkers,"

If this were the case they wouldn't be fact checkers, they would be spin doctors.
 
2012-08-28 01:24:09 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Why in the hell does he want to be President?


Gordon Gekko bet him $10,000 that he couldn't do it.
 
2012-08-28 01:24:17 PM

Marcus Aurelius: We gutted welfare back in the 90's. There's not much left to get upset about. Maybe the GOP would be happier if we just brought back indentured servitude.


I know a Republican who has actually, seriously suggested that very thing, on multiple occasions.
 
2012-08-28 01:25:10 PM

d23: He doesn't crave power for power's sake.

There is a huge payoff for Romney if he wins. There has to be.


Romney has been given everything his entire life. it is not out of the realm of possibility that he truly believes that"deserves" the presidency in his mind. Just like his inheritance, he was born for this.
 
2012-08-28 01:25:21 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-28 01:25:34 PM

clevershark: If Romney somehow ekes out a win I think we Canadians should build a fence along our southern border...


Maybe we could reach an accord of some kind... build the wall at the Mason-Dixon line and just have a fully open border between the northern U.S. and Canada.
 
2012-08-28 01:26:34 PM
Cons don't need their facts checked. They would never lie.

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2009/09/hbc-90005789

In an interview, the late Irving Kristol stated he was deeply indebted to Leo Strauss for an understanding of the "noble lie."
 
2012-08-28 01:26:50 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: FlashHarry: romney is a racist, lying sack of shiat. that's all.

No. Romney just wants to be President. Everything he does is in service of that. If he lies, it's not because he is a liar (although the act of lying makes him one) it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president. If he acts like a sack of sh*t, it's not because he is a sack of sh*t (although the act of acting like a sack of sh*t does make him one), it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president.

My only question is why. Why in the hell does he want to be President?


He is the Chosen One.
 
2012-08-28 01:27:05 PM
Obviously the Romney campaign is to be commended for knowing the difference between Libfacts™ (verifiable data which runs counter to The Holy Narrative) and The Truth™ (rumors, innuendo and falsehoods that support The Holy Narrative).
 
2012-08-28 01:27:11 PM

d23: There is a huge payoff for Romney if he wins. There has to be.


Why? Why can't he just be in it for the win? If anything, his apparent inability to prepare for simple complications in the future - such as the inevitable questions about his finances, and the fact that he only held companies long enough to rape the sh*t out of them and suck the marrow from their bones - describes a man that just wants what he wants when he wants it. He piles up his treasure higher and higher, with seemingly no greater purpose than to stack paper to the ceiling. He doesn't build anything. He hasn't created anything. What is he, then, if not simply an accumulation machine?
 
2012-08-28 01:27:15 PM
Who needs to worry bother with measly facts when you have one of these:

assets.nydailynews.com
 
2012-08-28 01:27:36 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: HeartBurnKid: He appears to crave power for power's sake

I agree. I see no reason for him to want power other than a desire to accumulate it. I'm not saying I think he is an evil man and will do bad things with power - though I do see him attempting to enrich himself further, because that's what he does: pile up wealth and power. Seemingly for their own sake. I really have no use for such a nihilist. There's just no point to Romney. He is a machine, designed and built to accumulate things for himself.


I don't think he, himself, is an evil man-- but I think he's probably going to be easily manipulated by people who maybe aren't such boring glasses of milk.
 
2012-08-28 01:27:41 PM
Romney camp: "We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact"

Brietbarted.... but horrifyingly still accurate, apparently....
 
2012-08-28 01:28:35 PM
Jackson Herring 2012-08-28 01:07:55 PM

Weaver95: remember - this is the party of 'moral values'.

I am seriously going to have a farking aneurysm this election season. Every time the Romney campaign doubles down on an easily disproved lie about objective observable reality, my blood pressure rises measurably.


PINK FLOYD, BOOZE, CATNIP, NASA TV - 2012
 
2012-08-28 01:28:42 PM
 
2012-08-28 01:29:36 PM
I'll say it again: it's surreal to see the right in such a froth over the president giving decision making responsibility back to the states.
 
2012-08-28 01:29:46 PM

violetvolume: I don't think he, himself, is an evil man-- but I think he's probably going to be easily manipulated by people who maybe aren't such boring glasses of milk.


He could be just as easily manipulated by good people, too. All he needs is more for himself and it will happen. But I don't think that's how it will go down. You're probably right.
 
2012-08-28 01:29:54 PM

Marcus Aurelius: We gutted welfare back in the 90's. There's not much left to get upset about. Maybe the GOP would be happier if we just brought back indentured servitude.


Indentured servitude is a slander term for servitude of personal responsibility. If you can't pay your debts by your own means you will be made responsible and your creditor will get to decide how you will live up to your responsibility. No debt no problem. Don't let people steal by not paying back loans.
 
2012-08-28 01:29:55 PM
You know, I try my very hardest not to look at Mitt Romney as an evil person because, in many respects, I don't think he is evil. I just don't see any possible viewpoint that makes this kind of behavior not sociopathic and egotistical.
 
2012-08-28 01:29:57 PM

gameshowhost: Politifact certainly fell apart in a hurry.

/the funny thing is that the gop's bullshiat/whining is what destroyed the place


Most "fact checking" is just opinion / editorial anyway. Not so much combing over speeches / debates for stated facts, then checking for accuracy. Washington Post is particularly bad. Granted, it's not made easy by the language politicians use.
 
2012-08-28 01:30:22 PM
"Fact checkers come to this with their own sets of thoughts and beliefs, and we're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact checkers," he said. The fact-checkers - whose institutional rise has been a feature of the cycle - have "jumped the shark," he added after the panel.

Yeah, the "thoughts and beliefs" of making sure that your claims are based in reality, you stupid moron.

Seriously, Obama need to use this damn quote, that's all the campaign has to say.
 
2012-08-28 01:31:07 PM
"Our most effective ad is our welfare ad," a top television advertising strategist for Romney, Ashley O'Connor, said at a forum Tuesday hosted by ABCNews and Yahoo! News. "It's new information."

ie, a total fabrication.

When Romney's own campaign is outright making stuff up, they give up any right to whine about something a pro-Obama superpac puts out (not that that will stop them).
 
2012-08-28 01:31:27 PM
Leo Strauss was right you know. We really do need "noble lies"

Just remember all the "good" and "noble" consequences of the WMDs lie.

Half a million dead Iraqis for no farking reason was a noble accomplishment.
 
2012-08-28 01:31:34 PM
The election, Fehrnstrom said, "will be a referendum on the president's handling of the economy."

Good luck with that, rapist.
 
2012-08-28 01:31:52 PM

Jackson Herring: Obama should do an ad where he sticks Rafalca's head in the freezer and farks her from behind.0


YOU LEAVE RAFALCA ALONE!!!
 
2012-08-28 01:32:16 PM

DeaH: "The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality-judiciously, as you will-we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."


I've always been fascinated by that notion. The universe proves time and again it has absolutely no use for people that believe such things, but they go on believing it anyway. Right up until the universe points them in the direction of a place like Afghanistan or drops a tumor on their brain stem.
 
2012-08-28 01:32:25 PM

Jackson Herring: "Our most effective ad is our welfare ad," a top television advertising strategist for Romney, Ashley O'Connor, said at a forum Tuesday hosted by ABCNews and Yahoo! News. "It's new information."

farking kill yourselves, you disgusting farking human trash cans


Please don't insult cans like this.
 
2012-08-28 01:33:51 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: DeaH: "The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality-judiciously, as you will-we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

I've always been fascinated by that notion. The universe proves time and again it has absolutely no use for people that believe such things, but they go on believing it anyway. Right up until the universe points them in the direction of a place like Afghanistan or drops a tumor on their brain stem.


Oh, I agree. But I would like to point out that less than a month later, Bush won a second term.
 
2012-08-28 01:34:01 PM

Serious Black: You know, I try my very hardest not to look at Mitt Romney as an evil person because, in many respects, I don't think he is evil. I just don't see any possible viewpoint that makes this kind of behavior not sociopathic and egotistical.


That's what I'm saying. Unless you believe that nihilism is, itself, evil - and I can certainly see the merit in such an argument - then Mitt Romney is not evil. He's just piling up honors and wealth for himself, for no other reason than that is what he does.
 
2012-08-28 01:35:52 PM
Lies and hyperbole.......it is ALL the GOP has.
 
2012-08-28 01:37:55 PM

Erix: I'll say it again: it's surreal to see the right in such a froth over the president giving decision making responsibility back to the states.


Also, didn't Romney lobby the WH as governor of MA for such a waiver back in 2005?

Why yes. Yes he did.

// that last link is a PDF copy of a letter from the RGA - including one Willard Chesterforth Mittens Montgomery Framingham Romney IV - to then-Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist asking for "increased waiver authority" in administering TANF
 
2012-08-28 01:38:08 PM

Lando Lincoln:
"For years, the GOP has been burdened with facts stopping us from getting public support for our insane ideas. But what if we simply ignore facts from here on out? What if we just make up a whole bunch of crazy shiat, and say that it's true, and say that the people who say that our lies aren't true are just part of the liberal conspiracy? This is our best game plan, and we're moving forward with it."


That's been the plan for the couple of years or so, it seems.
 
2012-08-28 01:38:30 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: That's what I'm saying. Unless you believe that nihilism is, itself, evil - and I can certainly see the merit in such an argument - then Mitt Romney is not evil. He's just piling up honors and wealth for himself, for no other reason than that is what he does.


Well, while I don't believe Mitt Romney himself is evil (in part because that, in some ways, obviates him of responsibility: He only does bad things because that's all he can do, like a rabbiatchewing on crap), I will say that the way he does such is evil. But that's because I think I've gained a good bit of my definition of sin/evil from a Terry Pratchett book.

"And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That's what sin is."
"It's a lot more complicated than that--"
"No it ain't. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they're getting worried that they won't like the truth. People as things, that's where it starts."
"Oh, I'm sure there are worse crimes-"
"But they Starts with thinking about people as things..."
 
2012-08-28 01:39:32 PM
I hope that in the future, our children will all be able to look back on the GOP of 2012 and just shake their heads in disbelief that people actually thought that way.
 
2012-08-28 01:40:07 PM

FlashHarry: these guys are borderline obscene.

the welfare attack is pure racist dog whistle shiat. not only is it completely untrue - romney himself lobbied for the same provisions as governor of mass.

romney is a racist, lying sack of shiat. that's all.


Forgive him, see, his wife had a miscarriage in 1989. Somehow, they felt this was also relevant to his qualifications for President. Facts have no place in politics.
 
2012-08-28 01:40:17 PM

Felgraf: "And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That's what sin is."
"It's a lot more complicated than that--"
"No it ain't. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they're getting worried that they won't like the truth. People as things, that's where it starts."
"Oh, I'm sure there are worse crimes-"
"But they Starts with thinking about people as things..."


I like that. But that makes me a sinner, because I believe Mitt Romney is a thing - in the same sense that Bender is a thing.
 
2012-08-28 01:40:43 PM
I would turn right around and make this an ad, if I were a Democratic strategist. And broaden it -- apply it to everything Romney has said or done. And punctuate it hard, with the closing:

"The fact is, Romney is unfit to lead."
 
2012-08-28 01:42:09 PM

Wyalt Derp: they give up any right to whine about something a pro-Obama superpac puts out (not that that will stop them).


I forgot where in the Constitution you give up your free speech rights based on complaining about a superpac ad.
Can you remind me where that is?
 
2012-08-28 01:42:26 PM
It wouldn't take much to persuade me that Romney is actually a decent human being in person. Not nearly as charismatic and suave as Obama, but not a greedy, selfish bastard.

But he's going to lose this campaign because he has surrounded himself with the most blatantly incompetent morons. Every day I think I have a handle on how retarded they can be, and almost every day they surprise the living shiat out of me.
 
2012-08-28 01:43:12 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Felgraf: "And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That's what sin is."
"It's a lot more complicated than that--"
"No it ain't. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they're getting worried that they won't like the truth. People as things, that's where it starts."
"Oh, I'm sure there are worse crimes-"
"But they Starts with thinking about people as things..."

I like that. But that makes me a sinner, because I believe Mitt Romney is a thing - in the same sense that Bender is a thing.


I dunno, I think of Bender as a person, in some ways. A mechanical person, but still a person.
/Plus, everyone screws up/thinks evil things/sins etc. It's part of the human condition! The key is to realizing your doing it, I think...
 
2012-08-28 01:43:55 PM

teeny: It wouldn't take much to persuade me that Romney is actually a decent human being in person. Not nearly as charismatic and suave as Obama, but not a greedy, selfish bastard.


How much would it take to convince you I am a Nigerian prince and I need you to give me your bank account numbers so I can hide some of my vast wealth with you for a little while?
 
2012-08-28 01:44:05 PM
Ignoring all semblance of tact
Romney's aides have finally cracked.
They said, right out loud
"Our campaign won't be cowed
by people who choose to check facts.

Link
 
2012-08-28 01:45:29 PM
Even though the facts show that Romney is a pathological liar, my gut feelings are telling me that he would be a great President.
 
2012-08-28 01:46:44 PM

what_now: Weaver95: nah, the Romney people can't possibly be that stupid! the headline is probably just and exaggeration.

*reads article*

Oh my f*cking gods....you said...with reporters standing....

*blink* *blink*

you people are screwed. completely, totally and in every possibly way...screwed.

No they aren't. 30% of the voters will automatically check his name off, and he's got enough money to convince 10-15% of the voters that Obama did something bad to them, personally.

I worry about that last 5-6%



Case in point:

Link

DeadAsshole.com's headline reads "Hallelujah! Romney to Media Fact-Checkers: Drop Dead" for this story.

The idiots are literally jubilant about the fact that Romney's campaign just said they aren't affected by facts in any way. At this point it's literally impossible to get any dumber than that.
 
2012-08-28 01:47:23 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Wyalt Derp: they give up any right to whine about something a pro-Obama superpac puts out (not that that will stop them).

I forgot where in the Constitution you give up your free speech rights based on complaining about a superpac ad.
Can you remind me where that is?


I think he was trying to say it would be extremely hypocritical, this is a word you wouldn't understand so I can see why you responded the way you did.
 
2012-08-28 01:51:07 PM
 
2012-08-28 01:51:52 PM
So, serious question. The article mentions it and it's been echoed here a couple times... When/why/how did the fact checking websites jump the shark?
 
2012-08-28 01:52:20 PM

Mr.Tangent: "Fact checkers come to this with their own sets of thoughts and beliefs, and we're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact checkers,"

If this were the case they wouldn't be fact checkers, they would be spin doctors.


It's like they think Ryan and Romney are above critique. Like two princes or something.
 
2012-08-28 01:53:08 PM
Why shouldn't the federal government be spending a lot on welfare programs during the worst economic downturn since the 30s? Go fark yourself GOP, you ignorant, sadistic bastards.
 
2012-08-28 01:53:09 PM
There's a list of things floating around on fark that are deliberately biased against the GOP. I guess someone needs to add 'fact-checkers' to the list.
 
2012-08-28 01:53:31 PM

Darkwing: So, serious question. The article mentions it and it's been echoed here a couple times... When/why/how did the fact checking websites jump the shark?


You realize you're attempting to analyze the nature of a statement made by a guy who just said that the campaign he works on isn't going to limit itself to truthful statements, yes?
 
2012-08-28 01:56:40 PM
Once again the Romney campaign shows that the only thing they're capable of being honest about is how farking evil they are.

Disgusting.
 
2012-08-28 01:59:55 PM

gameshowhost: "The Wave"


Are you talking about the 30 yr old after school special???

ARE YOU???
 
2012-08-28 02:05:25 PM
FTFA: "Fact checkers come to this with their own sets of thoughts and beliefs, and we're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact checkers," he said.

They've gone so far off the derp end that they don't even know what a fact is anymore. No wonder its impossible to reason with them.
 
2012-08-28 02:06:17 PM
"To lie in the service of God is not a sin." Liars are just doing God's work. Well, the Protestant God's work. That Catholic God can go nail himself to a door.
 
2012-08-28 02:07:30 PM
The questions asking why Romney is running for president got me thinking a little. Not much, just a little.

Maybe this is Romney's mid-life crisis. As he famously said, he's 'unemployed.' He's got no prospects of future employment. I guess he could go back to Bain or start some kind of consulting firm, but essentially he's just a retiree sitting around bored looking for something to do.

Whereas some might go through a mid-life crisis and buy a sports car, or pick up a silly little drug habit or something, Mitt has decided he wants to be president. He has the money to do it and he'll just kind of robot his way on through, despite the gaffes, the lack of charisma and lack of ideas, because when he gets down to it, the alternative is just sitting around on his big, fat, pile of money and contemplating how he could possibly spend it all in one lifetime.

Running for president gives him something to do with his time.
 
2012-08-28 02:09:18 PM

sabreWulf07: what_now: I worry about that last 5-6%

No problem, they'll just transfer the entirety of Ohio's vote count late on election night to a partisan Republican server site in Chattanooga, Tennessee owned by SmarTech. Perform a moderate vote shift, ignore and downplay the wild discrepancy with the exit polls and declare surprise victory.


From your link:

That is when the vote shift happened, not predicted by the exit polls, that led to Bush's unexpected victory. Connell died a month and a half after giving this deposition in a suspicious small plane crash.

That's creepy but it also smacks of conspiracy theory.
 
2012-08-28 02:15:22 PM

clevershark: If Romney somehow ekes out a win I think we Canadians should build a fence along our southern border...


It'll never happen. The last time we spent money on border security all we got was a fake lake and some new gazebos hundreds of miles away from any border.
 
2012-08-28 02:16:02 PM
The website PolitiFact is going to be truth-squadding the Republican convention speakers this week, delivering verdicts on which claims are "mostly true" and which deserve a "pants on fire" rating. Our advice: Pay no attention to those ratings. PolitiFact can't be trusted to get the story right.

Well, it's official. Mark your calendars: AUGUST 28, 2012 - the day Republicans officially declared war on facts.

Who has the "People/things conspiring against the GOP, and therefore America" list? We can finally add "Facts" to the list in a serious and non-joking matter.
 
2012-08-28 02:17:06 PM

impaler: Well, it's official. Mark your calendars: AUGUST 28, 2012 - the day Republicans officially declared war on facts.


It's nice to finally have it official, though.
 
2012-08-28 02:19:46 PM
I guess the forget that boolean equality operator in c++ is ==, not =.

if(value = false) always evaluates true.

//They should be using strncmp anyways.
 
2012-08-28 02:20:00 PM

impaler: The website PolitiFact is going to be truth-squadding the Republican convention speakers this week, delivering verdicts on which claims are "mostly true" and which deserve a "pants on fire" rating. Our advice: Pay no attention to those ratings. PolitiFact can't be trusted to get the story right.

Well, it's official. Mark your calendars: AUGUST 28, 2012 - the day Republicans officially declared war on facts.

Who has the "People/things conspiring against the GOP, and therefore America" list? We can finally add "Facts" to the list in a serious and non-joking matter.


Remember: when Politifact decides the facts benefits Republicans, like when they said Paul Ryan wasn't ending Medicare, they're good. But when Politifact decides the facts benefit Democrats, like when they said there were no death panels in ObamaCares, they're worse than Satan.
 
2012-08-28 02:21:37 PM

Darkwing: So, serious question. The article mentions it and it's been echoed here a couple times... When/why/how did the fact checking websites jump the shark?


When one of them declared that because the voucher system proposed by Paul Ryan to replace Medicare is still a program called Medicare, that it wasn't fundamentally changing Medicare as we know it.
 
2012-08-28 02:26:28 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: FlashHarry: romney is a racist, lying sack of shiat. that's all.

No. Romney just wants to be President. Everything he does is in service of that. If he lies, it's not because he is a liar (although the act of lying makes him one) it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president. If he acts like a sack of sh*t, it's not because he is a sack of sh*t (although the act of acting like a sack of sh*t does make him one), it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president.

My only question is why. Why in the hell does he want to be President?


Because if he isn't, the black guy is?
 
2012-08-28 02:31:42 PM
In the '08 crash, Mitt Romney, like many others, took losses in his investments. With a net zero income, Romney applied for and received food stamps from the state of Massachusetts.

Real Americans don't fact-check.
 
2012-08-28 02:35:47 PM
"We're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact[s]"

FTFY
 
2012-08-28 02:40:24 PM

imontheinternet: In the '08 crash, Mitt Romney, like many others, took losses in his investments. With a net zero income, Romney applied for and received food stamps from the state of Massachusetts.

Real Americans don't fact-check.


Hmmm. I'm trying to spice it up some. Does this work better, or is it too information heavy?

In the '08 crash, Mitt Romney, like many others, took losses in his U.S. investments. With a net zero income inside the United States, Romney applied for and received food stamps from the state of Massachusetts, despite making over $4 billion dollars in China that year.
 
2012-08-28 02:43:51 PM
I can tell you right now that there are plenty of "conservatives" who have already adopted this strategy. I've rebutted points on FB with an acquaintance of mine. He will say in the comments, "No reason to read this as I can tell by the headline what points it's trying to make." And that's to politifact article.

When he posts a CBO link and claims Obama is cutting medicare by 700billion and the "blood of children" will be on Obama's plans I point out to him that it's b/c Republican governors are opting out of the medicaid expansion. After a FB thread that went on for probably a good 30 comments he suddenly vanished (it's his link/page!!!) and I haven't heard about that again.

So this is absolutely not surprising.
 
2012-08-28 02:44:09 PM

paidhima: Mr.Tangent: "Fact checkers come to this with their own sets of thoughts and beliefs, and we're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact checkers,"

If this were the case they wouldn't be fact checkers, they would be spin doctors.

It's like they think Ryan and Romney are above critique. Like two princes or something.


You bastard. You clever bastard.

/that's what I said now
 
2012-08-28 02:44:59 PM
Mitt Romney knows he cant release 10 years of tax returns, because in 2002 Bain capital made $32,203,924,234 from managing Iraq's oil-for-food program.
 
2012-08-28 02:46:55 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: FlashHarry: romney is a racist, lying sack of shiat. that's all.

No. Romney just wants to be President. Everything he does is in service of that. If he lies, it's not because he is a liar (although the act of lying makes him one) it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president. If he acts like a sack of sh*t, it's not because he is a sack of sh*t (although the act of acting like a sack of sh*t does make him one), it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president.

My only question is why. Why in the hell does he want to be President?


Honestly, my guess is Mitt wants to be President because his dad never was, and Mitt needs that as some sort of weird validation thing.
 
2012-08-28 02:47:00 PM

impaler: In the '08 crash, Mitt Romney, like many others, took losses in his U.S. investments. With a net zero income inside the United States, Romney applied for and received food stamps from the state of Massachusetts, despite making over $4 billion dollars in China that year.


Copypaste it to an email, add pictures of Romney looking evil and/or stupid, and forward it to every crazy uncle you can find.
 
2012-08-28 02:47:05 PM

Bob16: Leo Strauss was right you know. We really do need "noble lies"


Well, I guess if you follow Strauss then there is no such thing as an assassination, just a "noble murder".

Actually there really is no such thing as assassinations now, although the world would be better off with a few.
 
2012-08-28 02:47:10 PM
All right, Romney has clearly made his emotional peace with losing in the wake of literally everyone but Ryan turning him down when he asked if they'd run for VP.

Now he's just farking with us.

//I kind of approve, I think. Though he should have tried Herman Cain and really thrown it in our faces.
 
2012-08-28 02:48:12 PM

impaler: imontheinternet: In the '08 crash, Mitt Romney, like many others, took losses in his investments. With a net zero income, Romney applied for and received food stamps from the state of Massachusetts.

Real Americans don't fact-check.

Hmmm. I'm trying to spice it up some. Does this work better, or is it too information heavy?

In the '08 crash, Mitt Romney, like many others, took losses in his U.S. investments. With a net zero income inside the United States, Romney applied for and received food stamps from the state of Massachusetts, despite making over $4 billion dollars in China that year.


Mitt Romney says that he lost millions of dollars in the Wall Street crash and was left broke by investment losses. He claims that he was forced to apply for food stamps in Massachusetts in order to keep his family fed. The only problem? He actually made millions of dollars from the Wall Street crash and stashed them all in overseas accounts in Switzerland and the Cayman Islands. Can you trust a man who lies to his government and steals money from you?

I think you could make that into a 30-second TV ad.
 
2012-08-28 02:48:37 PM

RumsfeldsReplacement: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: FlashHarry: romney is a racist, lying sack of shiat. that's all.

No. Romney just wants to be President. Everything he does is in service of that. If he lies, it's not because he is a liar (although the act of lying makes him one) it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president. If he acts like a sack of sh*t, it's not because he is a sack of sh*t (although the act of acting like a sack of sh*t does make him one), it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president.

My only question is why. Why in the hell does he want to be President?

Honestly, my guess is Mitt wants to be President because his dad never was, and Mitt needs that as some sort of weird validation thing.


On that note, I think Obama should mention Mitt's tax returns in the first 5 minutes of the first debate, and close the comment by saying "Your father would be so ashamed of you". Mitt would be completely flustered for the rest of it.
 
2012-08-28 02:50:55 PM

RumsfeldsReplacement: RumsfeldsReplacement: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: FlashHarry: romney is a racist, lying sack of shiat. that's all.

No. Romney just wants to be President. Everything he does is in service of that. If he lies, it's not because he is a liar (although the act of lying makes him one) it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president. If he acts like a sack of sh*t, it's not because he is a sack of sh*t (although the act of acting like a sack of sh*t does make him one), it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president.

My only question is why. Why in the hell does he want to be President?

Honestly, my guess is Mitt wants to be President because his dad never was, and Mitt needs that as some sort of weird validation thing.

On that note, I think Obama should mention Mitt's tax returns in the first 5 minutes of the first debate, and close the comment by saying "Your father would be so ashamed of you". Mitt would be completely flustered for the rest of it.


Mittens would attack President Obama with scissors, & not the round tip ones his wife puts in his pocket for him.
 
2012-08-28 02:58:42 PM

Serious Black: I think you could make that into a 30-second TV ad.


"In 2008, Mitt Romney claimed to be 61 years old. Now, he claims to be 65.

Which is it, Mitt? Better keep your story straight..."

// what every ad starts to sound like
// Mitt's a tot-muncher
 
2012-08-28 03:03:50 PM

Dr Dreidel: // what every ad starts to sound like
// Mitt's a tot-muncher


Romney's the guy who lied to Wolf Blitzer about Mitt being his first name. You can't lampoon a guy like that oblivious.
 
2012-08-28 03:04:14 PM

RumsfeldsReplacement: RumsfeldsReplacement: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: FlashHarry: romney is a racist, lying sack of shiat. that's all.

No. Romney just wants to be President. Everything he does is in service of that. If he lies, it's not because he is a liar (although the act of lying makes him one) it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president. If he acts like a sack of sh*t, it's not because he is a sack of sh*t (although the act of acting like a sack of sh*t does make him one), it's because he is ambitious and wants to be president.

My only question is why. Why in the hell does he want to be President?

Honestly, my guess is Mitt wants to be President because his dad never was, and Mitt needs that as some sort of weird validation thing.

On that note, I think Obama should mention Mitt's tax returns in the first 5 minutes of the first debate, and close the comment by saying "Your father would be so ashamed of you". Mitt would be completely flustered for the rest of it.



Even my Republican friends on FB agree he needs to at least publish as many years as his dad. They are Hannity/Rush mouthbreathers and this notion that he wont is driving them nuts. Of course Tommy Thompson flat out said no to publishing his until "after I'm elected" I cant believe more people are pissed about not sharing his tax returns
 
2012-08-28 03:09:24 PM
Mitt says he released his 2010 tax returns for transparency to the American people, but he now admits he only did it because journalists fact checking his taxes for him was cheaper than hiring an accountant.
 
2012-08-28 03:11:56 PM

Serious Black: impaler: imontheinternet: In the '08 crash, Mitt Romney, like many others, took losses in his investments. With a net zero income, Romney applied for and received food stamps from the state of Massachusetts.

Real Americans don't fact-check.

Hmmm. I'm trying to spice it up some. Does this work better, or is it too information heavy?

In the '08 crash, Mitt Romney, like many others, took losses in his U.S. investments. With a net zero income inside the United States, Romney applied for and received food stamps from the state of Massachusetts, despite making over $4 billion dollars in China that year.

Mitt Romney says that he lost millions of dollars in the Wall Street crash and was left broke by investment losses. He claims that he was forced to apply for food stamps in Massachusetts in order to keep his family fed. The only problem? He actually made millions of dollars from the Wall Street crash and stashed them all in overseas accounts in Switzerland and the Cayman Islands. Can you trust a man who lies to his government and steals money from you?

I think you could make that into a 30-second TV ad.


Are you suggesting that MITT ROMNEY IS A WELFARE QUEEN!? I can't help but wonder what Fox News' primary audience would think if they believed that in addition to being an alleged tax cheat, there's also the possibility that MITT ROMNEY IS A WELFARE QUEEN!
 
2012-08-28 03:12:02 PM

RumsfeldsReplacement: Honestly, my guess is Mitt wants to be President because his dad never was, and Mitt needs that as some sort of weird validation thing.


Great - another patsy for the rich with daddy issues.
 
2012-08-28 03:13:34 PM
api.photoshop.com
 
2012-08-28 03:21:24 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Darkwing: So, serious question. The article mentions it and it's been echoed here a couple times... When/why/how did the fact checking websites jump the shark?

You realize you're attempting to analyze the nature of a statement made by a guy who just said that the campaign he works on isn't going to limit itself to truthful statements, yes?


I'm just curious if it's a legitimate feeling by logical thinking folks or if it's a simply a case where a particular site did not parrot someone's personal interpretation of the "facts" and therefore the whole fact checking game is invalid. I frequent Politifact and they seems to upset folks on both sides... Which implies to me they are doing their jobs quite well.
 
2012-08-28 03:30:20 PM

Darkwing: Vegan Meat Popsicle: Darkwing: So, serious question. The article mentions it and it's been echoed here a couple times... When/why/how did the fact checking websites jump the shark?

You realize you're attempting to analyze the nature of a statement made by a guy who just said that the campaign he works on isn't going to limit itself to truthful statements, yes?

I'm just curious if it's a legitimate feeling by logical thinking folks or if it's a simply a case where a particular site did not parrot someone's personal interpretation of the "facts" and therefore the whole fact checking game is invalid. I frequent Politifact and they seems to upset folks on both sides... Which implies to me they are doing their jobs quite well.


They tend to get into trouble when they consider context. A fact is a fact and shouldn't be vulnerable to interpretation based on context. It opens the door to "what was really meant...." At which point your factual accuracy is diminished.
 
2012-08-28 03:34:39 PM

Jackson Herring: Weaver95: remember - this is the party of 'moral values'.

I am seriously going to have a farking aneurysm this election season. Every time the Romney campaign doubles down on an easily disproved lie about objective observable reality, my blood pressure rises measurably.


THIS. Me too. It pisses me off because the faith-based crowd I know gobbles it up. They'll take anything on faith and it just might ruin the goddamned world.
 
2012-08-28 03:46:54 PM
Romneybot, you need an update.
 
2012-08-28 03:57:45 PM

impaler: Mitt Romney knows he cant release 10 years of tax returns, because in 2002 Bain capital made $32,203,924,234 from managing Iraq's oil-for-food program.


I looked it up. That's not actually a real number. They don't go that high. Farking libs, making shiat up again. This is why no one trusts you.
 
2012-08-28 04:00:25 PM

King Something: Serious Black: impaler: imontheinternet: In the '08 crash, Mitt Romney, like many others, took losses in his investments. With a net zero income, Romney applied for and received food stamps from the state of Massachusetts.

Real Americans don't fact-check.

Hmmm. I'm trying to spice it up some. Does this work better, or is it too information heavy?

In the '08 crash, Mitt Romney, like many others, took losses in his U.S. investments. With a net zero income inside the United States, Romney applied for and received food stamps from the state of Massachusetts, despite making over $4 billion dollars in China that year.

Mitt Romney says that he lost millions of dollars in the Wall Street crash and was left broke by investment losses. He claims that he was forced to apply for food stamps in Massachusetts in order to keep his family fed. The only problem? He actually made millions of dollars from the Wall Street crash and stashed them all in overseas accounts in Switzerland and the Cayman Islands. Can you trust a man who lies to his government and steals money from you?

I think you could make that into a 30-second TV ad.

Are you suggesting that MITT ROMNEY IS A WELFARE QUEEN!? I can't help but wonder what Fox News' primary audience would think if they believed that in addition to being an alleged tax cheat, there's also the possibility that MITT ROMNEY IS A WELFARE QUEEN!


I'm sure it would go over gangbusters with that crew, just like how well the accusations of Mitt Romney being a heartless asshole went over with them.
 
2012-08-28 04:11:45 PM

MithrandirBooga: what_now: Weaver95: nah, the Romney people can't possibly be that stupid! the headline is probably just and exaggeration.

*reads article*

Oh my f*cking gods....you said...with reporters standing....

*blink* *blink*

you people are screwed. completely, totally and in every possibly way...screwed.

No they aren't. 30% of the voters will automatically check his name off, and he's got enough money to convince 10-15% of the voters that Obama did something bad to them, personally.

I worry about that last 5-6%


Case in point:

Link

DeadAsshole.com's headline reads "Hallelujah! Romney to Media Fact-Checkers: Drop Dead" for this story.

The idiots are literally jubilant about the fact that Romney's campaign just said they aren't affected by facts in any way. At this point it's literally impossible to get any dumber than that.


I wouldn't put it past them. One always thinks it can't get dumber... and then it does. I've given up on setting a floor for the depths of human stupidity.
 
2012-08-28 04:15:08 PM

MithrandirBooga: what_now: Weaver95: nah, the Romney people can't possibly be that stupid! the headline is probably just and exaggeration.

*reads article*

Oh my f*cking gods....you said...with reporters standing....

*blink* *blink*

you people are screwed. completely, totally and in every possibly way...screwed.

No they aren't. 30% of the voters will automatically check his name off, and he's got enough money to convince 10-15% of the voters that Obama did something bad to them, personally.

I worry about that last 5-6%


Case in point:

Link

DeadAsshole.com's headline reads "Hallelujah! Romney to Media Fact-Checkers: Drop Dead" for this story.

The idiots are literally jubilant about the fact that Romney's campaign just said they aren't affected by facts in any way. At this point it's literally impossible to get any dumber than that.


DON'T challenge them that way! They'll feel the need to prove you wrong and the rest of humanity will have strokes due to the sheer magnitude of the stupidity.

/then again perhaps that's the plan makes as much sense as anything else the republicans have said and done lately.
 
2012-08-28 04:49:07 PM

Felgraf: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: That's what I'm saying. Unless you believe that nihilism is, itself, evil - and I can certainly see the merit in such an argument - then Mitt Romney is not evil. He's just piling up honors and wealth for himself, for no other reason than that is what he does.

Well, while I don't believe Mitt Romney himself is evil (in part because that, in some ways, obviates him of responsibility: He only does bad things because that's all he can do, like a rabbiatchewing on crap), I will say that the way he does such is evil. But that's because I think I've gained a good bit of my definition of sin/evil from a Terry Pratchett book.

"And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That's what sin is."
"It's a lot more complicated than that--"
"No it ain't. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they're getting worried that they won't like the truth. People as things, that's where it starts."
"Oh, I'm sure there are worse crimes-"
"But they Starts with thinking about people as things..."


Pratchett really does have a way of cutting through the crap,doesn't he?
 
2012-08-28 05:08:52 PM

BrotherKalashnikov: Felgraf: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: That's what I'm saying. Unless you believe that nihilism is, itself, evil - and I can certainly see the merit in such an argument - then Mitt Romney is not evil. He's just piling up honors and wealth for himself, for no other reason than that is what he does.

Well, while I don't believe Mitt Romney himself is evil (in part because that, in some ways, obviates him of responsibility: He only does bad things because that's all he can do, like a rabbiatchewing on crap), I will say that the way he does such is evil. But that's because I think I've gained a good bit of my definition of sin/evil from a Terry Pratchett book.

"And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That's what sin is."
"It's a lot more complicated than that--"
"No it ain't. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they're getting worried that they won't like the truth. People as things, that's where it starts."
"Oh, I'm sure there are worse crimes-"
"But they Starts with thinking about people as things..."

Pratchett really does have a way of cutting through the crap,doesn't he?


Yes, yes he is.

He is my favorite author, and I began to read his books at a very influential time in my life. I need to get off my butt and finish my letter to him, while I can still send it to 'im.
 
2012-08-28 05:14:31 PM
I'm really not surprised about any of this...

The right is very commonly known for it's religious zealotry, especially in relation to Christianity. The first pages of their holy text basically points out we're all damned for eternity because we dared to garner knowledge. That's the joke.

Repubs & Conserves have made a platform out of talking about how teachers are overpaid (I still can't believe that) and how colleges are liberal institutions polluting our children's minds. Mike Huckabee, a revered mouthpiece of the right, has made a significant business market targeting home-schooled children who are trying to avoid the filth of education outside of the home.

Why is it shocking that (A) they abhor facts and (B) they are commended for doing so?

Ignorance is often times bliss. I'm fairly certain I'd be happier if I just drank moonshine, prayed to the Jesus and didn't question anything. In some way I envy them.
 
2012-08-28 07:32:33 PM

missiv: Forgive him, see, his wife had a miscarriage in 1989. Somehow, they felt this was also relevant to his qualifications for President. Facts have no place in politics.


You mean he raped her, and her body found a way of "shutting it down"?
 
2012-08-28 07:43:59 PM
Why not, the Obama champaign sure doesn't.
 
2012-08-28 08:06:53 PM
All this was inspired by the principle--which is quite true within itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.
 
2012-08-28 08:08:54 PM

tony41454: Why not, the Obama champaign sure doesn't.


[citation needed]
 
2012-08-28 09:59:40 PM

Via Infinito: Can't let those pesky facts get in the way of our campaign.


Reality has a well-known liberal bias. Romney has no time for that, not if he's going to fool whitey into voting for him.
 
2012-08-28 11:22:22 PM

Marcus Aurelius: We gutted welfare back in the 90's. There's not much left to get upset about. Maybe the GOP would be happier if we just brought back indentured servitude.


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Likes where this is going.
 
2012-08-29 01:58:02 AM
Obvious tag was going to be here but it got chloroformed by sick tag
 
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