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(Cleveland Plain Dealer)   Lexmark to print out 1,700 pink slips and send their inkjet printers to the junk heap, as most of their customers have already done   (cleveland.com) divider line 27
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2012-08-28 10:36:41 AM
This can't be right. For the cost of the ink that it would take to print those pink slips, they could save most of those jobs in the first place.
 
2012-08-28 11:05:33 AM
With the new LED laser printers catching up in quality to the inkjets, this is a smart move on their part. You can demand a higher premium from laser printers. Inkjet printers have to be sold at a loss and the margin is made up with cartridge sales. Since the public has gotten savvy about the cost of ink, move on to the next technology they don't know so much about. There hasn't been a backlash yet about toner costs.
 
2012-08-28 11:56:42 AM

semiotix: This can't be right. For the cost of the ink that it would take to print those pink slips, they could save most of those jobs in the first place.


Don't be silly, Lexmark knows better than to use their own products. They use Japanese calligraphers to hand paint each pink slip on silk. It's cheaper that way.
 
2012-08-28 11:56:44 AM

Lsherm: With the new LED laser printers catching up in quality to the inkjets, this is a smart move on their part. You can demand a higher premium from laser printers. Inkjet printers have to be sold at a loss and the margin is made up with cartridge sales. Since the public has gotten savvy about the cost of ink, move on to the next technology they don't know so much about. There hasn't been a backlash yet about toner costs.


If you're upset about the costs of inkjet ink, you are buying the wrong printers. My OfficeJet 8500 does around 2000 prints off of a XL sized black cartridge, so its in the same price per print range as laser of comparable cost.
 
2012-08-28 12:08:45 PM
I guess there's less and less of those managers out there who print out every email on their personal inkjet in their office.
 
2012-08-28 12:09:41 PM

Mad_Radhu: Lsherm: With the new LED laser printers catching up in quality to the inkjets, this is a smart move on their part. You can demand a higher premium from laser printers. Inkjet printers have to be sold at a loss and the margin is made up with cartridge sales. Since the public has gotten savvy about the cost of ink, move on to the next technology they don't know so much about. There hasn't been a backlash yet about toner costs.

If you're upset about the costs of inkjet ink, you are buying the wrong printers. My OfficeJet 8500 does around 2000 prints off of a XL sized black cartridge, so its in the same price per print range as laser of comparable cost.


My problem is that the ink always dries out before I use it all up. Just plugged in an old cheapo laser pritner that I haven't used in 2 years at work and it printed right away. An ink jet would need all new cartridges .
 
2012-08-28 12:13:26 PM
Inkjets are for short-sighted, cheap bastards. If you're ever asked to fix a relative's bottom-of-the-barrel PC with some shiatball version of Windows Home, not enough RAM, and 2 GB of adware, chances are there's gonna be an inkjet printer with a dried-out cartridge sitting right next to it.
 
2012-08-28 12:18:53 PM
IIRC, some years ago some guy did a calculation showing that HP inkjet ink was the most expensive fluid available for retail sale, at some several thousand times the cost per ml of the rarest and most expensive wines, perfumes, etc.
 
2012-08-28 12:27:49 PM
I quite buying printers after the last cartridges dried up in my all-in-one scanner. Now, for the one or two times a year I need prints, I just run down to the local office store and pay six cents a page. I'm saving $50 a year, easy.
 
2012-08-28 12:31:15 PM

Lsherm: With the new LED laser printers catching up in quality to the inkjets, this is a smart move on their part. You can demand a higher premium from laser printers. Inkjet printers have to be sold at a loss and the margin is made up with cartridge sales. Since the public has gotten savvy about the cost of ink, move on to the next technology they don't know so much about. There hasn't been a backlash yet about toner costs.


Right. And Lexmark's laser toner is the most expensive I've seen.

That said, they're good printers.
 
2012-08-28 12:55:52 PM

hurdboy: Lsherm: With the new LED laser printers catching up in quality to the inkjets, this is a smart move on their part. You can demand a higher premium from laser printers. Inkjet printers have to be sold at a loss and the margin is made up with cartridge sales. Since the public has gotten savvy about the cost of ink, move on to the next technology they don't know so much about. There hasn't been a backlash yet about toner costs.

Right. And Lexmark's laser toner is the most expensive I've seen.

That said, they're good printers.


Lexmark good printers??? Bwhahahahahahahah! Bought a Lexmark OfficeEdge Pro 5500 and wish I'd stuck with HP. My old HP G-85 never gave me as much trouble as this piece of shiat, ink swallowing, plastic hog did. I understand why Lexmark would dump these pieces of garbage and I'm sorry I ever bought this farker.
 
2012-08-28 12:59:18 PM

hurdboy: Lsherm: With the new LED laser printers catching up in quality to the inkjets, this is a smart move on their part. You can demand a higher premium from laser printers. Inkjet printers have to be sold at a loss and the margin is made up with cartridge sales. Since the public has gotten savvy about the cost of ink, move on to the next technology they don't know so much about. There hasn't been a backlash yet about toner costs.

Right. And Lexmark's laser toner is the most expensive I've seen.

That said, they're good printers.


They are the biggest hunks of shiat ever made, the one I had went out of alignment in under 2 years and their service said its not their problem we must have dropped it. Fu*k them never buying them again.
 
2012-08-28 01:01:45 PM
When I click the "print" button I have 12-18 pages done by the time I can reach for it.

I love my color laser printer. It's the guts of a color copier, just warms up the fixer and prints smudge free quickly and fairly cheap. At least compared to my label stock, which is about 30 cents a page.

I don't know why people put up with slow and noisy ink based printing. The only thing I wish I had was three paper trays so I didn't have to load my special label stock on demand.
 
2012-08-28 01:04:51 PM
There was a guy online a few years ago, can't remember where, who wanted to save ink by not printing out the allignment page every time he fitted a new cartridge. He wanted to keep using the original one as it would "save ink". People tried to point out the flaw in his brilliant plan but he didn't get it.

/Love my HP colour laser.
//Buys cheap unbranded toner and refills the cartridges.
 
2012-08-28 01:10:39 PM

Slaves2Darkness: Lexmark good printers??? Bwhahahahahahahah! Bought a Lexmark OfficeEdge Pro 5500 and wish I'd stuck with HP. My old HP G-85 never gave me as much trouble as this piece of shiat, ink swallowing, plastic hog did. I understand why Lexmark would dump these pieces of garbage and I'm sorry I ever bought this farker.


steamingpile: They are the biggest hunks of shiat ever made, the one I had went out of alignment in under 2 years and their service said its not their problem we must have dropped it. Fu*k them never buying them again.


Hmph. I never had problems, other than a consumer-grade one wearing out from overuse. But it's been nearly a decade since I worried about stuff like network laser printers.
 
2012-08-28 01:16:08 PM
I do IT work in a school, and when I started 11 years ago the guy before me had had the brilliant idea of getting every single teacher a dirt cheap Lexmark inkjet for their classrooms so that they wouldn't have to walk 50 ft. down the hallway to pick up something they wanted printed. I eliminated those the second year I was here. I put one color laser in each hallway and saved a ton of money on ink and a lot of time on maintenance. The great thing about those were the expensive ink cartridges that would dry up in a month or two if you didn't use them. They also had all of the colors together in a single cartridge, so if you ran out of cyan but the magenta and the yellow were still half full, tough shiat. Buy a whole new cartridge. They also went through a cleaning cycle every time you printed, so if you sent a lot of small jobs, most of your ink went right into the little reservoir below the head cleaner, which I then got to scrap out on a regular basis. Fun stuff. I should have buried one of them outside my office window so I could piss on its grave regularly.
 
2012-08-28 01:24:16 PM
F*ck lexmark, I bought a b/w laser printer from them for personal use -- cost me $250, i thought it was a very wise investment on my part -- the f*ckin' thing stops workin' after it sat a few years after it'd run out of toner, I didn't get a replacement cartridge for a while -- tried to replace it -- f*cking printer still won't f*cking work, piece of sh*t lexmark.
 
2012-08-28 02:10:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSK1D3bZhRs

"Lexmark shiat!"
 
2012-08-28 02:16:22 PM
It was a Lexmark Z11 that got me to swear off inkjet printers forever. I didn't print a whole lot of stuff and the cartridge would dry out in a month. I figured it cost me about $10 per page printed.
 
2012-08-28 02:57:11 PM
When our HP all-in-one died, I did some research and came across a comparison showing Lexmark Pinnacle Pro with the lowest (B&W) printing costs among a passel of inkets. I'd like to track down that source and make a few choice comments. It's been an incredible hassle since day one. Many, many calls to customer service; lots of smudged copies; I'll be incredibly happy when this POS totally gives up the ghost.
 
2012-08-28 03:25:47 PM
I've invented a less costly printer ink that's ambergris based.
 
2012-08-28 03:55:56 PM
I haven't even seen Lexmark printers being sold in the past few years. They used to be "bundled" with every cheap Compaq/eMachines Best Buy special. Out of all the awful inkjet printer makers, Lexmark was the worst, and the most expensive ink-wise.

\Dumped a Lexmark All-In-One I had and switched to Brother....what a difference! The units actually have some weight to them. Printers are slightly more money, but ink costs under a dollar if you buy large refill bottles. Never an issue with clogging/drying out/other B.S
\Would get a Laser, but I really only print out coupons and basic documents, so it isn't worth it.
 
2012-08-28 03:56:47 PM
Also, I wonder who is going to make "Dell" printers now...all were rebadged Lexmark models with slightly different-shaped ink cartridges.
 
2012-08-28 09:26:33 PM

Mad_Radhu: Lsherm: With the new LED laser printers catching up in quality to the inkjets, this is a smart move on their part. You can demand a higher premium from laser printers. Inkjet printers have to be sold at a loss and the margin is made up with cartridge sales. Since the public has gotten savvy about the cost of ink, move on to the next technology they don't know so much about. There hasn't been a backlash yet about toner costs.

If you're upset about the costs of inkjet ink, you are buying the wrong printers. My OfficeJet 8500 does around 2000 prints off of a XL sized black cartridge, so its in the same price per print range as laser of comparable cost.


For black ink. The LED lasers are making grounds in color prints, too, and that's where it counts. Plus you don't have to worry about banding on cheap paper.

Color toner is still crazy expensive for laser printers, but cost per print is now almost on par with inkjets, and you don't have to put up with some of the inkjet limitations, like slower print speed, dried out ink, calibration, or a large footpad.

Inkjets are still slightly ahead on cost, but laser printers offer more convenience and reliability overall because they have less moving parts. Lexmark doesn't necessarily make a great printer, but a bad laser printer is still better than a good inkjet unless you're printing color. Once they get the color printing figured out, inkjets are going to look like dot matrix.
 
2012-08-28 11:52:24 PM

semiotix: This can't be right. For the cost of the ink that it would take to print those pink slips, they could save most of those jobs in the first place.


It's Lexmark. They figured out that the ink is more expensive than the printer with ink, so instead of replacing the ink they just replace the whole printer instead.
 
2012-08-29 02:21:13 AM
I had exactly one inkjet printer, an Epson that I bought in 1998 when I went to college. I learned my lesson and I only use B&W laser at home. I had to get rid of my last printer because Sharp never made 64-bit drivers for it and I couldn't find anything compatible. I even downgraded my laptop back to 32 bit so I could run it a while longer. I now have a new Brother B&W that does duplex printing. Never knew how much I love duplex till I had it. Fark inkjets. If I really need color I can pay to print it somewhere.
 
2012-08-30 04:24:43 AM
Lexmark printers are such total pieces if sh*t. They suck down ink like crazy and always have one problem or another, either from misaligned rollers to impossible to calibrate cartridges.

Got an HP printer and never had a problem since.
 
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