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2012-08-28 09:02:51 AM
"They'll be fine. We tithe!"

downloads.thedaily.com
 
2012-08-28 09:11:44 AM
"...hygiene kits that will be distributed by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, possibly to storm victims."

Possibly to storm victims? We MIGHT give these to storm victims.... if they vote GOP and pray to Jesus?
 
2012-08-28 09:26:32 AM
little do they know, that little bottle of what looks like cologne in the hygiene kit is actually holy water, and if it is used automatically baptizes the user as a Mormon, whether they like it or not.
 
2012-08-28 09:49:28 AM

ManateeGag: little do they know, that little bottle of what looks like cologne in the hygiene kit is actually holy water, and if it is used automatically baptizes the user as a Mormon, whether they like it or not.


Yeah, when I got to the line about them being distributed by LDS people, I immediately assumed it was just good-PR-generating cover for pushy proselytizing and donation solicitation.

Naw, I'm not cynical or anything.
 
2012-08-28 10:00:54 AM
The group sang songs while packing plastic bags with toothbrushes, soap, towels and other items, including, "God Bless America" and the fight songs for both Brigham Young University and the University of Utah.

Good on them for helping out in their own creepy, Mormon way.
 
2012-08-28 10:01:27 AM

LRA61380: "...hygiene kits that will be distributed by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, possibly to storm victims."

Possibly to storm victims? We MIGHT give these to storm victims.... if they vote GOP and pray to Jesus?


Well, 'victims' is a little strong. They were asking for it; their intentions were very clear by where they chose to live and what kind of protections they took. By calling these people 'victims', it demeans the people who have no choice and are forcibly the victim of natural disaster.
 
2012-08-28 10:01:29 AM
When stories first came out about the hurricane heading that way I was saying it would be a good opportunity for the GOP to show off how people can help eachother in place of the government, they could have organized all 50k delegates into doing something like this. Looks like the Mormans were the only ones with a brain, that could see this as a good PR opportunity... Or they just genuinely like helping people...
 
2012-08-28 10:03:05 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

Why don't you give them jobs pruning your temple bushes?
 
2012-08-28 10:03:55 AM

Headso: When stories first came out about the hurricane heading that way I was saying it would be a good opportunity for the GOP to show off how people can help eachother in place of the government, they could have organized all 50k delegates into doing something like this. Looks like the Mormans were the only ones with a brain, that could see this as a good PR opportunity... Or they just genuinely like helping people...


They do like helping people. As long as you weren't a black person from 1977.
 
2012-08-28 10:04:32 AM

coeyagi: [upload.wikimedia.org image 800x600]

Why don't you give them jobs pruning your temple bushes?


Why is their wading pool full of dirty carpets?
 
2012-08-28 10:04:37 AM
On the one hand I am a cynical bastard because my first thought was....

graphics8.nytimes.com

On the other hand, kits of clean water, bandages and other needed supplies are more useful than "healing touches" and other nonsense, I would expect that there's very little preaching from the LDS people and a lot of actual helping.

On the OTHER two hands...

www.goddessgift.com
 
2012-08-28 10:04:47 AM

Headso: When stories first came out about the hurricane heading that way I was saying it would be a good opportunity for the GOP to show off how people can help eachother in place of the government, they could have organized all 50k delegates into doing something like this. Looks like the Mormans were the only ones with a brain, that could see this as a good PR opportunity... Or they just genuinely like helping people...


They genuinely like helping people. The religion is crazy, and the followers seem delusional to think that its the one true form of Christianity. but for the most part, all the Mormons I know are super nice and out going.

Link
 
2012-08-28 10:04:51 AM

Headso: Looks like the Mormans were the only ones with a brain


ICWUDT.
 
2012-08-28 10:04:55 AM
Anyone else notice the picture caption? What we imagine nice people from Utah look like.
Someone in the art department is a Farker.
 
2012-08-28 10:05:12 AM

coeyagi: [upload.wikimedia.org image 800x600]

Why don't you give them jobs pruning your temple bushes?


I like the modesty and understatement in this.
 
2012-08-28 10:05:26 AM
I can't read TFA because it's blocked at work, but I know it's fairly common for our church (United Methodists) to gather materials for kits like that and send them on to be turned into kits and distributed in times like those. I'd never heard of the Mormons doing anything like that, but then, we don't exactly advertise that we do, either. Good for them.
 
2012-08-28 10:05:59 AM

coeyagi: [upload.wikimedia.org image 800x600]

Why don't you give them jobs pruning your temple bushes?


I don't know that I'd let any GOPers around my temple bush. NTTAWWT for others.
 
2012-08-28 10:06:23 AM

coeyagi: They do like helping people. As long as you weren't a black person from 1977.


Or a family headed by two people of the same gender in 2012.
 
2012-08-28 10:06:50 AM

sprawl15: coeyagi: [upload.wikimedia.org image 800x600]

Why don't you give them jobs pruning your temple bushes?

Why is their wading pool full of dirty carpets?


Dunno, just noticed that. These Mormons are freaks! Probably like cum stains out the wazoo on those carpets! Dead fetuses maybe from spontaneous abortions during their ecstasy-infused chicken dances at weddings.
 
2012-08-28 10:07:36 AM

LRA61380: "...hygiene kits that will be distributed by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, possibly to storm victims."

Possibly to storm victims? We MIGHT give these to storm victims.... if they vote GOP and pray to Jesus?


They also might possibly go to victims of other disasters. Earthquakes, wildfires, Godzilla, President Romney...
 
2012-08-28 10:08:58 AM

Brandyelf: I can't read TFA because it's blocked at work, but I know it's fairly common for our church (United Methodists) to gather materials for kits like that and send them on to be turned into kits and distributed in times like those.


The way they phrased it, it sounds more likely that the kits are for members of the GOP to clean off the stink of the poors.

When Mormons aren't including clean underwear, something's up.
 
2012-08-28 10:11:00 AM

moistD: They genuinely like helping people. The religion is crazy, and the followers seem delusional to think that its the one true form of Christianity. but for the most part, all the Mormons I know are super nice and out going.


It's kind of a David Lynch inspired "super nice" though, as if at any moment the veneer will crack and dark insanity will spew forth.
 
2012-08-28 10:11:23 AM
Old story.

LDS Humanitarian Initiatives

Emergency Response is the part of the LDS Church's humanitarian efforts of which most people are aware. Funds and supplies in this area are used to help victims of natural disasters such as earthquakes, floods, droughts, tornadoes, and hurricanes, as well as other disasters such as wars or political unrest. Supplies in this area are gathered and stored before a crisis so supplies can be sent literally within hours of an emergency. Volunteers are also on call so if they are needed they can be reached and organized within a few hours. The LDS Church is renowned for its ability to organize its members in various regions of the world to respond to emergency and facilitate distributing goods immediately after a crisis, often before aid programs such as the Red Cross or the Salvation Army come to assist. In 2008, the LDS Church responded to 124 disasters in 48 countries.[2]

Wheelchair Distribution is another program of the LDS Church crucial to helping those in need. Studies estimate that only one percent of the disabled in the world have wheelchairs. For the rest, being without a wheelchair means for adults that they can not provide for themselves or their families, and for children it often means not being able to attend school. By providing wheelchairs to those in need, the LDS Church hopes to help people become more self-reliant which is an important tenant of LDS beliefs.[3]

The Clean Water Service provides clean water and wells to people who otherwise would most likely contract deadly diseases because of the dirty water. It is estimated that one billion people lack clean water. The clean water program is designed to partner with local community agencies to provide sustainable clean water.[4]

The Neonatal Resuscitation program sends doctors and volunteers to areas where infant mortality rate is high. They are able to teach people in the area how to resuscitate newborns as well as provide simple medical equipment. This service is greatly needed as it is estimated that nearly 1 million newborns die each year due to birth difficulties. Up to 10% of newborns have breathing difficulties.[5]

The Vision Treatment Training program teaches facilities and medical personnel in developing countries how to treat preventable or reversible blindness. There are 37 million people in the world who are blind, and up to 75 % of blindness is treatable. The vision care program works with local vision health care centers to help treat and prevent blindness for the poor.[6]

In addition to these efforts, the LDS Church also has over 300 job development and placement centers around the world. In 2001, the LDS Church began the Perpetual Education Fund which provides money to cover tuition and other school expenses to people in developing nations. As of 2007, tens of thousands of individuals had been given assistance. So far this program has operated primarily in South America and Oceana. The LDS Church has also begun producing a nutrition-rich porridge named Atmit to help during acute famines. The LDS Church Welfare program owns farms, ranches, canneries, and other food producing facilities to provide temporary food relief for families and individuals. LDS Humanitarian Services frequently works with other charities and NGOs such as the Red Cross, Catholic charities and even various Islamic charities for which the LDS Church has produced halaal food.[7]
 

Truly history's greatest monsters.
 
2012-08-28 10:13:53 AM

LRA61380: Possibly to storm victims? We MIGHT give these to storm victims.... if they vote GOP and pray to Jesus?


No, 'possibly', as in 'We haven't found anyone who needs them yet, but we're ready if there is a need.'
 
2012-08-28 10:16:39 AM

Mikey1969: LRA61380: Possibly to storm victims? We MIGHT give these to storm victims.... if they vote GOP and pray to Jesus?

No, 'possibly', as in 'We haven't found anyone who needs them yet, but we're ready if there is a need.'


No, let him hate the religious people. Let him think all religious people and members of the GOP are bad.
 
2012-08-28 10:18:07 AM

canyoneer: Old story.

LDS Humanitarian Initiatives...

Truly history's greatest monsters.


Yeah, came here to say pretty much this. The LDS helping out people is nothing new, and it has nothing to do with converting new followers. They have a phenomenal charity, and I believe they were on the ground before both The US Govt. aid and the Red Cross in Haiti. Being in Utah, this is old news. I don't like them owning 80% of the Legislature here and using their religion to play with my laws, but there is no way that they can ever be faulted for their charitable giving.

And this happens on a more granular level, too. They've rebuilt houses lost in fire for single families, taken them into their homes, and given them food.

Whether members of the church or not.

People just don't get this.
 
2012-08-28 10:21:54 AM

Mikey1969: canyoneer: Old story.

LDS Humanitarian Initiatives...

Truly history's greatest monsters.

Yeah, came here to say pretty much this. The LDS helping out people is nothing new, and it has nothing to do with converting new followers. They have a phenomenal charity, and I believe they were on the ground before both The US Govt. aid and the Red Cross in Haiti. Being in Utah, this is old news. I don't like them owning 80% of the Legislature here and using their religion to play with my laws, but there is no way that they can ever be faulted for their charitable giving.

And this happens on a more granular level, too. They've rebuilt houses lost in fire for single families, taken them into their homes, and given them food.

Whether members of the church or not.

People just don't get this.


That's all fine and dandy. Wouldn't it be amazing though if people gave of their time and wealth without the boot of religion on their throats? You know, without the threat of eternal damnation.

//buncha religious fur burgers
 
2012-08-28 10:25:00 AM

moistD: the followers seem are delusional to think that its the one true form of Christianity


That part is redundant.
 
2012-08-28 10:27:20 AM

Mikey1969: People just don't get this.


who, exactly, doesn't "get this"
 
2012-08-28 10:27:36 AM

coeyagi: That's all fine and dandy. Wouldn't it be amazing though if people gave of their time and wealth without the boot of religion on their throats? You know, without the threat of eternal damnation.


1: People DO give.

2: While tithing is a 'thing' in the Church, if you can't pay, you don't, and they don't tell you that you are "eternally damned". Also, the people who help don't do it under pressure, they help when they can, and don't when they can't.


You know what? Never mind, I don't have this kind of time.

/Hate on!
 
2012-08-28 10:28:37 AM
Hygiene kits to help wash the black off?
 
2012-08-28 10:31:44 AM

Mikey1969: coeyagi: That's all fine and dandy. Wouldn't it be amazing though if people gave of their time and wealth without the boot of religion on their throats? You know, without the threat of eternal damnation.

1: People DO give.

2: While tithing is a 'thing' in the Church, if you can't pay, you don't, and they don't tell you that you are "eternally damned". Also, the people who help don't do it under pressure, they help when they can, and don't when they can't.

You know what? Never mind, I don't have this kind of time.

/Hate on!


You're the one playing the hate card, bro. I don't hate them, I just think it's silly. Seriously, drop religion, it's a waste. Join the Peace Corps, join the American Red Cross, just join something that has value to society and that doesn't scramble your brain with a bunch of nonsensical dogma. Or don't. Be retarded and make me feel better about myself that I can be spiritual without being religious like you sheeple.
 
2012-08-28 10:31:56 AM

Mikey1969: People just don't get this.


People just don't know much about Mormons or the Mormon Church. Ignorance breeds fear, and fear breeds bigotry.

I don't agree with typical Mormon politics (although even this is more complex and nuanced than widely assumed), but Mormons are not evil beasts, disloyal, or un-American freaks. They're fellow citizens, generally law-abiding, constructive, and patriotic, by-and-large. This exposure of Mormonism on the national stage has been more interesting for the bigotry and ignorance revealed on the part of many non-Mormons, really. You know, it's OK to disagree with people over policy and politics, but the thinly-veiled hatred that's being exposed is depressing. It's the alter-ego of the racism displayed against Barack Obama. This country is balkanizing. It's bad news.
 
2012-08-28 10:34:32 AM
BTW, don't let my defense of the people of a whole and my admiration for the humanitarian practices of the church, imply that I want that flip flopping farknut in office. ROmney I don't trust as far as I can throw a golf ball with the wind at my back and downhill...
 
2012-08-28 10:35:00 AM

canyoneer: You know, it's OK to disagree with people over policy and politics, but the thinly-veiled hatred that's being exposed is depressing.


What sort of thinly-veiled hatred have you seen?
 
2012-08-28 10:35:51 AM

Mikey1969: canyoneer: Old story.

LDS Humanitarian Initiatives...

Truly history's greatest monsters.

Yeah, came here to say pretty much this. The LDS helping out people is nothing new, and it has nothing to do with converting new followers. They have a phenomenal charity, and I believe they were on the ground before both The US Govt. aid and the Red Cross in Haiti. Being in Utah, this is old news. I don't like them owning 80% of the Legislature here and using their religion to play with my laws, but there is no way that they can ever be faulted for their charitable giving.

And this happens on a more granular level, too. They've rebuilt houses lost in fire for single families, taken them into their homes, and given them food.

Whether members of the church or not.

People just don't get this.


All in effort to tell them about the All-American Prophet.
 
2012-08-28 10:36:05 AM
It is nice to see some folks trying to help. I don't care about their motives, political affiliations, religious beliefs, and so on, if at the end of the day they've fed someone, bandaged the injured, and actually spent even a few minutes caring for their fellow person for no reason other than their fellow person needed care.

If these folks then attempt to exploit such care for their own purposes, then I'll biatch - but right now, I'd much rather see people get cleaned up, bandaged, fed, and reassured.
 
2012-08-28 10:45:14 AM

Jackson Herring: Mikey1969: People just don't get this.

who, exactly, doesn't "get this"


Everybody who thinks that this is only 'for members', or that there is some kind of convert-to-Mormonism agenda to all of this. There are also people who don't believe this at all, and also those you think this is either for publicity, or to help Romney.

Those people don't get it. And they make a high percentage of the population.
 
2012-08-28 10:46:17 AM

Jackson Herring: Mikey1969: People just don't get this.

who, exactly, doesn't "get this"


Sorry, here's an example of a statement form one of the people I just mentioned:

All in effort to tell them about the All-American Prophet.
 
2012-08-28 10:48:59 AM

canyoneer: I don't agree with typical Mormon politics (although even this is more complex and nuanced than widely assumed), but Mormons are not evil beasts, disloyal, or un-American freaks. They're fellow citizens, generally law-abiding, constructive, and patriotic, by-and-large. This exposure of Mormonism on the national stage has been more interesting for the bigotry and ignorance revealed on the part of many non-Mormons, really. You know, it's OK to disagree with people over policy and politics, but the thinly-veiled hatred that's being exposed is depressing. It's the alter-ego of the racism displayed against Barack Obama. This country is balkanizing. It's bad news.


I'm not worried about a Mormon being President(Just this particular one), but once they have the type of control that they have in Utah, things get stupid. 80% of the Legislature represents 60% of the population, and makes decisions for all based on their religious beliefs. That's the part I have a problem with. Kuckily, it would never get this extensive across the country, so I still don't specifically care about the religion of a Presidential candidate.
 
2012-08-28 10:54:50 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: What sort of thinly-veiled hatred have you seen?


Why, just a couple of threads down there are some people doing Romney Birther-ism, claiming he a is a secret polygamist who paid no taxes, and the like. And here in this thread there's a fellow letting out a constant stream of thinly-veiled hatred, raising the spectre of past racism, as if no one else or no other organization in America was racist in the past, without a hint of irony. "Cum-stained carpets" and "chicken dances," the religious "boot on the throat." You can read through for yourself. If similar language was used regarding, say, the sitting President, such a user would be banned and the comments deleted, I bet. It seems that reverse-Birtherism is the new thing around here. Smear, innuendo, and bigotry. Maybe a new Hoveround Power Chair Brigade of disgruntled liberal Baby Boomers has been unleashed? A sort of leftist Tea Party? It's weirdly appropriate, I guess. The American political spectrum has finally wrapped around to meet itself, like a snake eating its tail...a continuum of derp and futility.
 
2012-08-28 10:58:01 AM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Anyone else notice the picture caption? What we imagine nice people from Utah look like.
Someone in the art department is a Farker.


FTFA "Aww, that's actually really sweet. We probably would have been saddling up to the Airport Hilton bar on our day off."

Apparently it's not limited to the art department.
 
2012-08-28 11:07:51 AM

Mikey1969: I'm not worried about a Mormon being President(Just this particular one), but once they have the type of control that they have in Utah, things get stupid. 80% of the Legislature represents 60% of the population, and makes decisions for all based on their religious beliefs. That's the part I have a problem with. Kuckily, it would never get this extensive across the country, so I still don't specifically care about the religion of a Presidential candidate.


I don't give a rat's ass who wins this election. No matter who wins, the bombs will keep dropping in SW Asia, the roads and bridges will continue to crumble, and Goldman Sachs will still be running the Treasury Department. I do find it very illuminating, however, to see the Democrats resorting to the same sort of low-brow sleaze for which they routinely (and rightly) criticize the Republicans. Way to go, Democrats and liberals.

Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.

Politics is dead in this country, and the two-party system has killed it.
 
2012-08-28 11:12:12 AM

canyoneer: I do find it very illuminating, however, to see the Democrats resorting to the same sort of low-brow sleaze for which they routinely (and rightly) criticize the Republicans. Way to go, Democrats and liberals.


Difference?

The "low brow sleaze" you're citing in the Democrats and liberals comes from anonymous internet posters.

The "low brow sleaze" you're citing in the Republicans comes from party leaders and is said from the stage while the crowds cheer.

Can you imagine what the reaction would be if Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid or Hillary Clinton said "MItt Romney SAYS his religion won't impact his ability to govern so I'll just take him at his word" or "I haven't seen anything that says MItt Romney wasn't born in Mexico but I'm just asking questions"?

Cuz those are the kinds of things that Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin and even the current Republican candidate for president HAVE said in public with regards to the president's religion and place of birth. And the crowds cheered......
 
2012-08-28 11:18:24 AM
When my nephew, an atheist, joined the army, they had a choice during Basic: attend a church service and get stuff or sit in the barracks with no privileges. After trying a few, he settled on the Mormons because they gave out candy and phone cards, and they weren't too pushy. He's still an atheist (yes, they exist in foxholes).
 
2012-08-28 11:25:18 AM
So since its just 'possibly' storm victims, that the Utah delegation just feels that Tampa needs improved hygiene in a more general sense.
 
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2012-08-28 11:27:09 AM

SFSailor: Yeah, when I got to the line about them being distributed by LDS people, I immediately assumed it was just good-PR-generating cover for pushy proselytizing and donation solicitation.


In person, they are genuinely likable people. It's when they're voting in groups that they become assholes. This is true for most social conservatives.
 
2012-08-28 11:28:35 AM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: canyoneer: I do find it very illuminating, however, to see the Democrats resorting to the same sort of low-brow sleaze for which they routinely (and rightly) criticize the Republicans. Way to go, Democrats and liberals.

Difference?

The "low brow sleaze" you're citing in the Democrats and liberals comes from anonymous internet posters.

The "low brow sleaze" you're citing in the Republicans comes from party leaders and is said from the stage while the crowds cheer.

Can you imagine what the reaction would be if Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid or Hillary Clinton said "MItt Romney SAYS his religion won't impact his ability to govern so I'll just take him at his word" or "I haven't seen anything that says MItt Romney wasn't born in Mexico but I'm just asking questions"?

Cuz those are the kinds of things that Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin and even the current Republican candidate for president HAVE said in public with regards to the president's religion and place of birth. And the crowds cheered......


Yeah, but, see, they're just joking. That's their usual defense - "what, chicks/queers/minorities/kids/Muslims - can'tcha take a joke?"
 
2012-08-28 11:29:55 AM

canyoneer: Politics is dead in this country, and the two-party system has killed it.


My biggest problem with the two Party system is these giant shifts the system takes when one Party gets too much control. No matter what people try and assert, they are not "the same", so as a result, we have a bunch of time wasted trying to get pet projects off the ground. Money is spent, time is spent, the project(For good or bad) starts to finally be something we can(usually) live with either way, then the other Party gets in control, spends the beginning of their power shift eliminating all of these things, and then putting their own agenda in place. The cycle starts again, and nothing ever farking gets accomplished. 4 or 5 vialble Parties would at least create a type of equilibrium, these shifts would be much smaller, less frequent and far less damaging. Sure, eventually one Party might end up with power for a year or two. Right now, it's like being a 90 pound dude sitting on the Tilt-A-Whirl with a 400 lb moron who insists on slamming that thing in one direction the absolute instant you get used to it heading in the other. All that happens at the end of the ride is that you get off dazed, bruised, bloddy and totally confused as to your own name.
 
2012-08-28 11:30:52 AM
I'm gonna go ahead and look a gift horse in the mouth, and just say, while the gesture is appreciated, they use these operations to proselytizing and convert the masses.
 
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