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2012-08-28 10:01:41 AM

HeartBurnKid: tfresh: OMG its for an incoming hurricane! What's wrong with you people?!

What's wrong with us is we're sick of hearing farkers like Jindal scream about "SMALL GOVERNMENT!" and "OBAMA'S BLOOD MONEY!" until they actually need help, and then it's all "GIMME! GIMME! GIMME!"


and all this spending will be used to thrash him over the head with later on. just like all their tax cut debt. tarp debt. medicare part d debt. war debt. like it's somehow all attributed to Obama's socialist agenda and it was all given to blacks of welfare.
 
2012-08-28 10:01:59 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: Funny how the red state Goopers always have their hands out for gubmint-taxpayer money.


"Goopers," I'm going to use that.
 
2012-08-28 10:03:57 AM

Hobodeluxe: HeartBurnKid: tfresh: OMG its for an incoming hurricane! What's wrong with you people?!

What's wrong with us is we're sick of hearing farkers like Jindal scream about "SMALL GOVERNMENT!" and "OBAMA'S BLOOD MONEY!" until they actually need help, and then it's all "GIMME! GIMME! GIMME!"

and all this spending will be used to thrash him over the head with later on. just like all their tax cut debt. tarp debt. medicare part d debt. war debt. like it's somehow all attributed to Obama's socialist agenda and it was all given to blacks on welfare.


my bad. still on my first cup of coffee.
 
2012-08-28 10:04:42 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: President to speak on Isaac at 10AM EDT. Link


he's late
 
2012-08-28 10:04:57 AM

RyogaM: You apparently do not. That's and honest difference of opinion, hardly worthy of saying someone is psychotic and needs meds


That wasn't the issue. We can disagree whether it's politics or not but other claimed it was political. Saying they didn't say that is what you did.
 
2012-08-28 10:05:06 AM

Hobodeluxe: HeartBurnKid: tfresh: OMG its for an incoming hurricane! What's wrong with you people?!

What's wrong with us is we're sick of hearing farkers like Jindal scream about "SMALL GOVERNMENT!" and "OBAMA'S BLOOD MONEY!" until they actually need help, and then it's all "GIMME! GIMME! GIMME!"

and all this spending will be used to thrash him over the head with later on. just like all their tax cut debt. tarp debt. medicare part d debt. war debt. like it's somehow all attributed to Obama's socialist agenda and it was all given to blacks of welfare.


FeFiFoFark: the best thing to do, IMHO, would be to evacuate ALL of NO, break all the levees and let the water find its level. Then rebuild on higher ground. Think of all the jobs that would create!


Especially since in another thread the GW deniers spent so much time showing how easy it is to move, even giving examples of how buildings were moved. I think that moving is a good idea, spend no more money on it and let them move.
 
2012-08-28 10:06:24 AM

Hobodeluxe: Dusk-You-n-Me: President to speak on Isaac at 10AM EDT. Link

he's late


The moment of quiet had me thinking he was coming, but then...
 
2012-08-28 10:07:29 AM

Barricaded Gunman: gaspode: He is asking the feds to guarantee to pay for literally everything the state spends associated with the storm. This from someone from a statist party who openly mocks federal spending on important emergency related issues.

This cannot be repeated enough. Once again, it's the hypocricy of the GOP that is drawing the fire in here, not the expense of helping Louisiana (again) fix a problem that they should have foreseen and prepared for (again).

Louisiana will be helped, just not by airlifting Governor Jindal pallets of no-strings-attached money to do with as he sees fit. He can stamp his tiny little feet all he wants, but it's not gonna happen.


If Jindal was a Democrat, he'd make the same request and get the same response. It's not (R-LA) or (D-LA), it's (LA)
 
2012-08-28 10:08:27 AM

FeFiFoFark: the best thing to do, IMHO, would be to evacuate ALL of NO, break all the levees and let the water find its level. Then rebuild on higher ground. Think of all the jobs that would create!


What are you trying to do, pollute the Gulf?
 
2012-08-28 10:08:31 AM

GooberMcFly: andhravodu: Lost Thought 00: It's not wasteful spending if it benefits Republicans.

Please don't be obtuse. The dude is asking for help to the state he governs. It's an entire state with people who have experienced tragedy not too far out. This isn't a my party vs. other party moment

You should tell Jindal that.


Actually, he isn't asking for "help to the state he governs" - he's already getting that. What he is asking for, according to the article, is that the federal government pay not just for the direct federal assistance his state is already receiving, but also that the federal government reimburse his state government for the help his government was already paid to provide (y'know, that whole "taxes" thing.)

That's the embarrassment here. After his bootstrappy posturing, he now thinks it's OK to tell the federal goverment to support his state in its entirety because it had an unforeseen emergency. He doesn't just want "help", he wants Big Guv'mint to make it all better at the expense of the taxpayers from the rest of the country - one of the very things about which he and others of his ilk whine incessantly.
 
2012-08-28 10:08:53 AM
If Jindal really, really wants this money, no strings attached, a big ol' black check, he does have other options than Obama. He is free to write a letter to the Republican leadership in the House and the Senate and request that they provide the funds he seeks. It's not that hard.
 
2012-08-28 10:10:10 AM
Nice to see the little right-wing biatches in here. HELLO biatchES
 
2012-08-28 10:10:24 AM

Mrbogey: RyogaM: You apparently do not. That's and honest difference of opinion, hardly worthy of saying someone is psychotic and needs meds

That wasn't the issue. We can disagree whether it's politics or not but other claimed it was political. Saying they didn't say that is what you did.


What? I claimed others said it was not political? Where?
 
2012-08-28 10:10:49 AM

RyogaM: Now, if Jindal goes with plan 2, and tries to blame Obama, he is an ass. Let's see what happens.


This is precisely where I'm at with it. Except he's already an ass. But being an ass isn't too bad. Being an irresponsible ass when lives are at stake is unacceptable behavior.
 
2012-08-28 10:10:57 AM

Mrbogey: trotsky: The idiots on the right made stupid shiat like "federal aid for emergencies" a partisan issue. Hell the idiots on the right make everything a partisan issue.

Because it was right-wingers who flooded this thread and started the political talk.

Jackass.


Wait, we can't talk politics on a thread that is clearly a political topic? You really must be a Tea Party member.
 
2012-08-28 10:11:21 AM

Barricaded Gunman: gaspode: He is asking the feds to guarantee to pay for literally everything the state spends associated with the storm. This from someone from a statist party who openly mocks federal spending on important emergency related issues.

This cannot be repeated enough. Once again, it's the hypocricy of the GOP that is drawing the fire in here, not the expense of helping Louisiana (again) fix a problem that they should have foreseen and prepared for (again).

Louisiana will be helped, just not by airlifting Governor Jindal pallets of no-strings-attached money to do with as he sees fit. He can stamp his tiny little feet all he wants, but it's not gonna happen.


This. Brand new walnut desks and Mont Blanc pens for managers and a new Mercedes for regional department heads can be hidden in the expense sheets as office supplies and transportation, but it doesn't do a thing for actual disaster relief. Allowing contractors to send old, worn out heavy equipment to be destroyed in the aftermath, only to be replaced by shiny new equipment at federal gov expense doesn't do shiat for disaster relief.
 
2012-08-28 10:12:23 AM

The Muthaship: Who complains about federal spending when it is for disaster aid?

Nobody. It's one thing that people don't mind having their tax dollars used for.

The fact that people need federal assistance in emergencies doesn't disqualify them from saying the government overreaches in other areas. The money the feds spend comes from the people they are helping to begin with.


Eric Cantor, for one.
 
2012-08-28 10:13:14 AM

dofus: Barricaded Gunman: gaspode: He is asking the feds to guarantee to pay for literally everything the state spends associated with the storm. This from someone from a statist party who openly mocks federal spending on important emergency related issues.

This cannot be repeated enough. Once again, it's the hypocricy of the GOP that is drawing the fire in here, not the expense of helping Louisiana (again) fix a problem that they should have foreseen and prepared for (again).

Louisiana will be helped, just not by airlifting Governor Jindal pallets of no-strings-attached money to do with as he sees fit. He can stamp his tiny little feet all he wants, but it's not gonna happen.

If Jindal was a Democrat, he'd make the same request and get the same response. It's not (R-LA) or (D-LA), it's (LA)


I'm trying to find any evidence that any governor of LA has made a request like the one Jindal is making, or any other state, for that matter, and what the normal response to these requests have been. I don't see it.
 
2012-08-28 10:15:06 AM
This is the same moron who approved barrier islands because he complained that Obama wasn't doing enough to halt the BP oil spill despite scientists telling him it was a dumb idea. He got to grandstand about taking state initiative over the Feds only to watch his expensive project wash away. Why the fark would anyone give this man a blank check?
 
2012-08-28 10:15:17 AM

BeesNuts: RyogaM: Now, if Jindal goes with plan 2, and tries to blame Obama, he is an ass. Let's see what happens.

This is precisely where I'm at with it. Except he's already an ass. But being an ass isn't too bad. Being an irresponsible ass when lives are at stake is unacceptable behavior.


At least give Obama an opportunity to completely mishandle the government's reaction to the devastation of Hurricane Hayes before pointing fingers. Sheesh.
 
2012-08-28 10:15:58 AM

RyogaM: If Jindal really, really wants this money, no strings attached, a big ol' black check, he does have other options than Obama. He is free to write a letter to the Republican leadership in the House and the Senate and request that they provide the funds he seeks. It's not that hard.


No, they won't. The Congress may appropriate money for such a purpose, but they have no authority to disburse it. That authority resides solely with the Office of the President of the United States. He is the chief executive and he runs the government, not Congress.
 
2012-08-28 10:17:34 AM
I'm sure that somewhere along the line, considering the complexions of both Obama and Jindal, someone's gonna make a "heckuva job, Brownie" joke, right?

/too soon?
 
2012-08-28 10:18:01 AM

propasaurus: Eric Cantor, for one.


Now, while I do think that was bad, he was not against Joplin getting aid. He just wanted some offsetting cuts in what he viewed as wasteful spending. Damn bad time to try that maneuver though.
 
2012-08-28 10:19:09 AM

impaler: Jindal, a Republican, shot back late Monday in a letter to the Obama administration that the declaration fell short of the help he was requesting.

It's nice to see Republicans be all bootstrappy and shat.

Give him all he asks and more, and make sure there is a bumper sticker on every piece of equipment that says "WE built this."


Obama wants to deny funds paid by taxpayers in the first place? Fine. The state can declare its citizens immune from federal income tax.

Man, libs are dumbasses.
 
2012-08-28 10:21:03 AM

Thunderpipes: Obama wants to deny funds paid by taxpayers in the first place? Fine. The state can declare its citizens immune from federal income tax.

Man, libs are dumbasses.


they are a welfare state, not a good idea to try to hold the nation hostage like that if you get back more than you put in...
 
2012-08-28 10:21:14 AM
From my (limited) experience working Federal emergency response operations, I don't think Federal aid works that wthe way Mr. Jindal thinks it does.

If Louisiana and the Fedearl Government had agreements on preventative measures that the Federal government is now refusing to reimburse, that'd be one thing. If the State just decided they were going to build a bunch of stuff and then charge the Federal government later, that's another thing entirely.

Generally speaking, any emergency response requests get coordinated and requested through the State, then routed up to the appropriate Federal agency for distribution and payment. The State doesn't get to provide whatever they want and then expect the Feds to reimburse everything, no questions asked.

Granted, I don't know the full story, but it sounds like Jindal is asking for a blank check, which isn't just a waste of many, it could lead to gross mismanagement of finite resources and manpower that could do a lot of damage and potentially get people hurt.
 
2012-08-28 10:25:13 AM
Full reimbursment? Nah. Let's say 30% additional funding for a photo-op shaking hands with the president under a turbulent sky.
 
2012-08-28 10:26:38 AM

Thunderpipes: impaler: Jindal, a Republican, shot back late Monday in a letter to the Obama administration that the declaration fell short of the help he was requesting.

It's nice to see Republicans be all bootstrappy and shat.

Give him all he asks and more, and make sure there is a bumper sticker on every piece of equipment that says "WE built this."

Obama wants to deny funds paid by taxpayers in the first place? Fine. The state can declare its citizens immune from federal income tax.

Man, libs are dumbasses.


On a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being stick your dick in a light socket and 10 being that you think you can shiat play-doh, how stupid are you?
 
2012-08-28 10:29:06 AM
Let's try to look at the facts, and see if there is evidence to support the contention that Jindal is trying to make a political statement by asking Obama for reimbursement of state preparation funds.

Fact: Jindal is a Republican, Obama is a Democrat. Obviously, Jindal would like to make Obama look bad just for this reason.

Fact: We are in the midst of a closely contested presidential race, making Obama look bad is especially important right now.

Fact: Obama has already pledged direct federal assistance to the area, the type of assistance standard in emergencies of this sort.

Fact: Jindal appears to be asking for extraordinary assistance in the request for a black check to pay back state funds.

Fact: Jindal is asking Obama for these funds, and, if Obama refuses these funds, could be construed as not helping LA enough.

Fact: Jindal has apparently not asked the Republicans in the House or the Senate for a special disbursement of emergency "Blank check" funds.

Fact: It's odd that Jindal would ask for a reimbursement now, rather than concentrate on doing what is needed and worrying about the money later. However, Jindal could be doing both at the same time, so not too much should be made of this.

These facts strongly support the assertion that Jindal has political reasons to ask for the black check from Obama, rather than Congress directly.
 
2012-08-28 10:29:20 AM

Thunderpipes: impaler: Jindal, a Republican, shot back late Monday in a letter to the Obama administration that the declaration fell short of the help he was requesting.

It's nice to see Republicans be all bootstrappy and shat.

Give him all he asks and more, and make sure there is a bumper sticker on every piece of equipment that says "WE built this."

Obama wants to deny funds paid by taxpayers in the first place? Fine. The state can declare its citizens immune from federal income tax.

Man, libs are dumbasses.


Where did you see this?
 
2012-08-28 10:32:01 AM

More_Like_A_Stain: On a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being stick your dick in a light socket and 10 being that you think you can shiat play-doh, how stupid are you?


Please don't engage the performance artist playing the stereotypical angry rightwing dumbfark, maybe he'll finally go away.
 
2012-08-28 10:34:30 AM
Doh: Link
 
2012-08-28 10:36:41 AM

JackieRabbit: RyogaM: If Jindal really, really wants this money, no strings attached, a big ol' black check, he does have other options than Obama. He is free to write a letter to the Republican leadership in the House and the Senate and request that they provide the funds he seeks. It's not that hard.

No, they won't. The Congress may appropriate money for such a purpose, but they have no authority to disburse it. That authority resides solely with the Office of the President of the United States. He is the chief executive and he runs the government, not Congress.


Right, but it's more likely to be disbursed if the Congress authorizes it first. Can the president even refuse to disburse funds appropriated by the Congress? I thought that was settled with a no.

In fact, what Jindal is requesting marks a dangerous precedent. He's basically saying the president should have sole discretion to disburse federal money to states to reimburse a state for ordinary state expenses, ordinary meaning, a state in a hurricane prone area should ordinary be preparing for hurricanes, without any Congressional oversight. Sees dangerous to me.
 
2012-08-28 10:37:07 AM
Bobby Jindal is the bum who asks you for a dollar outside the Newark Penn Station McDonald's so he can get a burger, and then when you're kind enough to give him one he asks for another dollar for some fries.

Fark him.
 
2012-08-28 10:37:45 AM

andhravodu: Lost Thought 00: It's not wasteful spending if it benefits Republicans.

Please don't be obtuse. The dude is asking for help to the state he governs. It's an entire state with people who have experienced tragedy not too far out. This isn't a my party vs. other party moment


the dude has a long history of bemoaning the federal aid he gets. see the pictures above of the stimulus checks. those reflect what many republicans did, piss and moan and spend the money. he has also turned down the federal medicaid help that come with the ACA because socialism or some crap. actually he doesn't like that it make us pay some downstream in year 3 or 4.

and i said us because i live in LA and will be getting real wet in the next 36 hours. bobby has done every tea party thing you can do with a budget and now we have no money and he's complaining that Obama isn't helping enough.

it's disgusting.
 
2012-08-28 10:39:34 AM

memtastic: Doh: Link

FTA: But the damage in the other three counties was significant too: In Cleveland County, 154 homes were damaged, including 141 destroyed. Of those, 127 were uninsured. In Oklahoma County, 38 homes were damaged, including 33 destroyed. Of those, 31 were uninsured. In Payne County, 63 homes were damaged, including 53 destroyed. Of those, 59 were uninsured.


What the hell? Are we becoming a nation of morons?
 
2012-08-28 10:41:10 AM

RyogaM: memtastic: Doh: Link

FTA: But the damage in the other three counties was significant too: In Cleveland County, 154 homes were damaged, including 141 destroyed. Of those, 127 were uninsured. In Oklahoma County, 38 homes were damaged, including 33 destroyed. Of those, 31 were uninsured. In Payne County, 63 homes were damaged, including 53 destroyed. Of those, 59 were uninsured.

What the hell? Are we becoming a nation of morons?


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2012-08-28 10:41:29 AM

RyogaM: What? I claimed others said it was not political? Where?


Now you're just purposefully being obtuse and trying to divert the issue.

Your claim is that Jindal is making this a political issue even though he didn't. That the posters here making it political aren't the ones starting it.

Because Republicans make you do things.
 
2012-08-28 10:42:14 AM
Hey, Bobby, don't you have some actual work to do? Link: Isaac before landfall
 
2012-08-28 10:42:59 AM
Seriously, every single one of these right wing ideas should be implemented immediately.

LA does not want to pay Federal taxes? DO IT! the US would save billions.

"just move N.O.". DO IT!.

Need their tax money back. DO IT! pay to each state in proportion to what they put in. The USA would save a ton of money, and states like Texas would get a little more.

Don't want the weather service or other government program, DO IT! Start your own weather service or just die, I don't care. No cheating and using federal data. Maybe you can privatize it.

Don't want health care, DO IT! Your state won't have to pay in, and you won't get any benefits. Just die instead, I don't care.

Want to spend all your money on Jindalberms or hurricane deflection prayer centers or rapture preparation centers for pets , DO IT. No help for you when they don't work. Seriously, states should be able to opt out of all federal benefits.
 
2012-08-28 10:43:21 AM
The Muthaship: Now, while I do think that was bad, (Eric Cantor) was not against Joplin getting aid. He just wanted some offsetting cuts in what he viewed as wasteful spending. Damn bad time to try that maneuver though.

When is it ever a "damn bad time" to try and push the GOP agenda? The Republicans have shown time and again that they're willing to hold anyone (population of Joplin, Missouri) or anything (America's credit rating) hostage if it means furthering the Right Wing agenda. And all while praising Jebus and wearing a lapel flag and telling each other they love their country.
 
2012-08-28 10:45:23 AM

Mrbogey: Your claim is that Jindal is making this a political issue even though he didn't.


However, this is unquestionably the first step towards that goal. He can't blame Obama for not helping when the aid is already authorized. He has to make an unreasonable request that is certain to be denied before he can claim that his pleas fell on deaf ears.
 
2012-08-28 10:45:26 AM

KarmicDisaster: Seriously, every single one of these right wing ideas should be implemented immediately.

LA does not want to pay Federal taxes? DO IT! the US would save billions.

"just move N.O.". DO IT!.

Need their tax money back. DO IT! pay to each state in proportion to what they put in. The USA would save a ton of money, and states like Texas would get a little more.

Don't want the weather service or other government program, DO IT! Start your own weather service or just die, I don't care. No cheating and using federal data. Maybe you can privatize it.

Don't want health care, DO IT! Your state won't have to pay in, and you won't get any benefits. Just die instead, I don't care.

Want to spend all your money on Jindalberms or hurricane deflection prayer centers or rapture preparation centers for pets , DO IT. No help for you when they don't work. Seriously, states should be able to opt out of all federal benefits.


Can we just let everything south of I-10 and I-12 be part of a new state instead? I could give a flying fark what happens north of I-10.
 
2012-08-28 10:45:33 AM

smitty04: photos1.blogger.com


I'm pretty sure that there are some homes designed to float in Denmark.
 
2012-08-28 10:45:41 AM

Fart_Machine: This is the same moron who approved barrier islands because he complained that Obama wasn't doing enough to halt the BP oil spill despite scientists telling him it was a dumb idea. He got to grandstand about taking state initiative over the Feds only to watch his expensive project wash away. Why the fark would anyone give this man a blank check?


Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about that. I didn't even know who the guy was until he did that, exposing himself as a first-class dick. The smarmy asshole was all over the news, pontificating about how HE would save everybody, since the federal government was too incompetent. it was obvious that he didn't give a fark about the real issue, and just needed some disaster so he could put himself in the spotlight.

And what do you know--here he is again, doing the exact same thing.
 
2012-08-28 10:46:22 AM

Mrbogey: RyogaM: What? I claimed others said it was not political? Where?

Now you're just purposefully being obtuse and trying to divert the issue.

Your claim is that Jindal is making this a political issue even though he didn't. That the posters here making it political aren't the ones starting it.

Because Republicans make you do things.


Soooo, you're saying that GOP "political reality" is in apposite to reality? Color me shocked.
 
2012-08-28 10:50:54 AM

Mrbogey: RyogaM: What? I claimed others said it was not political? Where?

Now you're just purposefully being obtuse and trying to divert the issue.

Your claim is that Jindal is making this a political issue even though he didn't. That the posters here making it political aren't the ones starting it.

Because Republicans make you do things.


No, I think the facts are such that there is strong evidence that Jindal is politicizing the request for a blank check. I think Jindal did start it, and that the posters who recognize Jindal's attempt should be applauded for their astute observation of the political sphere we now find ourselves in. I think people who fail to see that Jindal's request seems to be an attempt to make Obama look bad, in addition to being an attempt to make LA's budget look better, probably are a little naive or are Republican apologists. Neither side should be insulted or made to feel they have some mental health concerns, except for the Republican apologists, who are clearly nuts.
 
2012-08-28 10:57:52 AM
THis looks like one of those "politics ends at the waters edge" things. No matter what Jindals politics are, he's looking at the likelihood of a whold mess of destruction, and is trying to take advantage of every tool out there. That's not crazy, it's practical. If I were drowning, I'd grab onto a life preserver from HItler.
 
2012-08-28 10:58:25 AM

cryinoutloud: Fart_Machine: This is the same moron who approved barrier islands because he complained that Obama wasn't doing enough to halt the BP oil spill despite scientists telling him it was a dumb idea. He got to grandstand about taking state initiative over the Feds only to watch his expensive project wash away. Why the fark would anyone give this man a blank check?

Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about that. I didn't even know who the guy was until he did that, exposing himself as a first-class dick. The smarmy asshole was all over the news, pontificating about how HE would save everybody, since the federal government was too incompetent. it was obvious that he didn't give a fark about the real issue, and just needed some disaster so he could put himself in the spotlight.

And what do you know--here he is again, doing the exact same thing.



This pipsqueak needs to shut up and let the grown ups do their jobs.
 
2012-08-28 11:00:54 AM

Aarontology: 2wolves: The Muthaship: Who complains about federal spending when it is for disaster aid?

The GOP.

Specifically, Gov Jindal in his post State Of The Union official GOP response to President Obama.


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