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(The Sun)   Nanny state bans doormats and framed wall pictures because they pose a fire hazard   (thesun.co.uk ) divider line
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2012-08-28 12:24:31 AM  
I love how they snipped the rest of the letter off so you don't get to see what the offending items actually were. My bullshiat detector was already going off, but that clinched it. Though I don't know why I would expect anything else from The Sun.
 
2012-08-28 01:13:13 AM  
Fire! Fire! Fire!
 
2012-08-28 01:14:29 AM  
The other story on that page was funnier.

How the police were scrambled to a report of 2 live rounds lying on the pavement somewhere, so they had a big police response. . .only to find they were two plastic missiles to a toy.

That kind of response for just a couple of unspent rounds lying on the ground? Seriously?

All it takes to make England shiat itself is a few unspent rounds of .22 in a parking lot?
 
2012-08-28 01:15:00 AM  
"Nanny state" would be if the UK Government or a regional government nixed these pictures and doormats.

From the article, it sounds like it was just the Apartment Manager....

But bosses at Stockport Homes landed a Non-Sense award from The Sun after warning that anyone disobeying the rules will be in breach of their tenancy agreement.
 
2012-08-28 01:19:28 AM  
'we all think of the corridors as part of our homes'

well now you know that they are not. I'm sure plenty of tenants would rather not have shared areas clogged up with old lady's pieces of tat as well.
 
2012-08-28 01:26:50 AM  
News flash government has and always will have the power to ban anything.
 
2012-08-28 01:27:13 AM  

XplodedSynapses: Fire! Fire! Fire!


One dark night, when we were all in bed...
 
2012-08-28 01:27:43 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

hotlink sticky
 
2012-08-28 01:28:12 AM  

fusillade762: I love how they snipped the rest of the letter off so you don't get to see what the offending items actually were. My bullshiat detector was already going off, but that clinched it. Though I don't know why I would expect anything else from The Sun.


"Fire safety is important, but we don't even have fire exits or fire extinguishers in the corridors - so it seems ridiculous that they'd focus on frames and doormats rather than that."

Yeah, I'm thinking not so much bullshiat. No freakin' FIRE EXTINGUISHERS? I don't think you can sell or rent a house or apartment in NY without one.
 
2012-08-28 01:28:20 AM  

Silverstaff: The other story on that page was funnier.

How the police were scrambled to a report of 2 live rounds lying on the pavement somewhere, so they had a big police response. . .only to find they were two plastic missiles to a toy.

That kind of response for just a couple of unspent rounds lying on the ground? Seriously?

All it takes to make England shiat itself is a few unspent rounds of .22 in a parking lot?


I don't remember the exact timeframe, but a year or so ago I read that they shut down an entire block when someone found a single .25 round in the gutter.
 
2012-08-28 01:28:49 AM  
Draco's mom is going to get nekkid.
 
2012-08-28 01:32:21 AM  

RoyBatty: "Nanny state" would be if the UK Government or a regional government nixed these pictures and doormats.

From the article, it sounds like it was just the Apartment Manager....

But bosses at Stockport Homes landed a Non-Sense award from The Sun after warning that anyone disobeying the rules will be in breach of their tenancy agreement.


Nanny state is the lamest meme on this site. 90% of the time it's a deceiving daily fail or sun link.

News flash: government has and always will have the power to ban anything it wants.
 
2012-08-28 01:38:01 AM  

PDid: RoyBatty: "Nanny state" would be if the UK Government or a regional government nixed these pictures and doormats.

From the article, it sounds like it was just the Apartment Manager....

But bosses at Stockport Homes landed a Non-Sense award from The Sun after warning that anyone disobeying the rules will be in breach of their tenancy agreement.

Nanny state is the lamest meme on this site. 90% of the time it's a deceiving daily fail or sun link.

News flash: government has and always will have the power to ban anything it wants.


YA! Take that Free Speech and Press!
 
2012-08-28 01:38:22 AM  
They can get my "NO SPRAYING" sign I have in my bathroom when they pry it from my smoking, burnt, dead hand.
 
2012-08-28 01:46:15 AM  
Nanny state

Hurdee hurrdee there takin our RIGHTS durrrr
 
2012-08-28 01:51:15 AM  
"Nanny state would be if the UK Government or a regional government nixed these pictures and doormats."

Yeah right! Maybe if they are not busy fapping on Prince Harry's naked pics, they can focus on more sensical things.
 
2012-08-28 01:52:07 AM  
It always amazes me that Farkers cannot understand that the South Penrith Council Estate Board =/= the British Parliament
 
2012-08-28 01:53:44 AM  
Believe it or not, this is already te rule for rental properties in many American jurisdictions, including Prince George Cty. MD, where I live. Both of those items are stipulated in my lease. Both rules are for "fire safety" reasons. I truly don't understand the connection.
 
2012-08-28 01:54:17 AM  
i49.tinypic.com

Fahrenheit 451
 
2012-08-28 02:01:55 AM  

Kalyco Jack: Believe it or not, this is already te rule for rental properties in many American jurisdictions, including Prince George Cty. MD, where I live. Both of those items are stipulated in my lease. Both rules are for "fire safety" reasons. I truly don't understand the connection.


Holes in the walls. "Fire safety" is just the excuse that they use and can get away with.
 
2012-08-28 02:07:58 AM  
Rockets? From a toy plane? I'm listening.
 
2012-08-28 02:08:37 AM  

Silverstaff: The other story on that page was funnier.

How the police were scrambled to a report of 2 live rounds lying on the pavement somewhere, so they had a big police response. . .only to find they were two plastic missiles to a toy.

That kind of response for just a couple of unspent rounds lying on the ground? Seriously?

All it takes to make England shiat itself is a few unspent rounds of .22 in a parking lot?


shiat, I'm in Dallas and I bet that if you sifted the contents of an average street sweeper you'd get a pound of brass and at least a little lead.
 
2012-08-28 02:26:32 AM  

phalamir: It always amazes me that Farkers cannot understand that the South Penrith Council Estate Board =/= the British Parliament


It amazes me that Farkers cannot understand that authority = authority.
 
2012-08-28 02:31:33 AM  
COMING SOON TO AMERICA!
 
2012-08-28 02:37:32 AM  

RoyBatty: "Nanny state" would be if the UK Government or a regional government nixed these pictures and doormats.

From the article, it sounds like it was just the Apartment Manager....


THIS

The Sun is always trying to make the Nanny State look worse than it is. This was a decision by a private business. It's the same in the US. Doormats are commonly prohibited by the private owners of rental units, so are wall decorations in common areas.

Most of them probably aren't fire hazards, but it just takes one idiot to put out a door mat made out of dried straw- and another idiot to drop a cigarette butt on it. So two idiots. But yeah, this is a thing, and it's not a "Nanny State" thing. It's a Private Industry thing.
 
2012-08-28 02:46:52 AM  

Kalyco Jack: Believe it or not, this is already te rule for rental properties in many American jurisdictions, including Prince George Cty. MD, where I live. Both of those items are stipulated in my lease. Both rules are for "fire safety" reasons. I truly don't understand the connection.


The general idea is that if you let people put any shiat in the hallways they will put all kinds of shiat in the hallways. Hallways are the main fire exit routes, so stuff that obstructs them is bad.. a picture frame might not but you must know from experience that you give people an inch they take a mile.
 
2012-08-28 02:58:45 AM  

stiletto_the_wise: It amazes me that Farkers cannot understand that authority = authority.


Stockport Homes is a private company that operates independently from the Council whose housing it manages (Google ALMO)
 
2012-08-28 03:01:32 AM  

gaspode: 'we all think of the corridors as part of our homes'

well now you know that they are not. I'm sure plenty of tenants would rather not have shared areas clogged up with old lady's pieces of tat as well.


This. I've lived in many old buildings like that and it is always the old ladies with the clutter in the hallway that will wait for new tenants to tell them they have shut their door too firmly or some such.
 
2012-08-28 03:40:29 AM  
I'm surprised this isn't the Daily Mail running the story. Maybe in a few days time. Sounds like this mad woman started decorating the corridors around her flat in her council owned block and is surprised the council has a problem with this.
 
2012-08-28 03:41:06 AM  
I find this no less asinine and probably true in all its particulars than the admitted fact that schools in the US cannot put pictures on the walls of elementary classrooms any more, and for the exact same reason.
 
2012-08-28 03:59:09 AM  

Silverstaff: The other story on that page was funnier.

How the police were scrambled to a report of 2 live rounds lying on the pavement somewhere, so they had a big police response. . .only to find they were two plastic missiles to a toy.

That kind of response for just a couple of unspent rounds lying on the ground? Seriously?

All it takes to make England shiat itself is a few unspent rounds of .22 in a parking lot?


Oh noes.
www.pacoa.com
 
2012-08-28 04:51:44 AM  
Actually they banned doormats because it might annoy Pakistanis

It's political correctness gone mad
 
2012-08-28 05:40:58 AM  
If anyone is actually offended by this misleading story then I have some great land to sell you in my butt.
 
2012-08-28 05:44:27 AM  

RoyBatty: "Nanny state" would be if the UK Government or a regional government nixed these pictures and doormats.

From the article, it sounds like it was just the Apartment Manager....

But bosses at Stockport Homes landed a Non-Sense award from The Sun after warning that anyone disobeying the rules will be in breach of their tenancy agreement.


Wrong. Nanny state is an attitude. It originates from a combination of bullying, Orwellian local councils and the compensation culture (which result from central government failing to keep councils and courts in check). Once established, it pervades everywhere, with everyone who has some "turf" under their control (or just feel ike they do) "nannying" it up over anyone who sets foot on that turf.

It's part of our slide back to the old feudal system.
 
2012-08-28 05:49:23 AM  
Meanwhile, back in the real world, the Health and Safety Executive has published a list of ridiculous decisions blamed on regulations (look at number 30) as reported by the BBC 4 days ago.
 
2012-08-28 05:53:18 AM  

whidbey: Nanny state

Hurdee hurrdee there takin our RIGHTS durrrr


Rights are actually rather important, and must be actively protected.

Presumably, you are a lib, and so you identify with your fellow libs, who are usually the low-level government operatives who implement all this nanny-state rubbish, and because you identify withthem you don't see them as a threat.

History says you are dead wrong.
 
2012-08-28 05:55:26 AM  

Spiralmonkey: Meanwhile, back in the real world, the Health and Safety Executive has published a list of ridiculous decisions blamed on regulations (look at number 30) as reported by the BBC 4 days ago.


So a government department that has made itself unpopular is now spending government money on propoganda to make itself look good? Well colour me surprised.
 
2012-08-28 06:00:46 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: Spiralmonkey: Meanwhile, back in the real world, the Health and Safety Executive has published a list of ridiculous decisions blamed on regulations (look at number 30) as reported by the BBC 4 days ago.

So a government department that has made itself unpopular is now spending government money on propoganda to make itself look good? Well colour me surprised.


Am I missing something here? Where's the propaganda? Government department publishes examples of urban myths to show people they don't have to comply with random made-up stuff - is that a bad thing?
 
2012-08-28 06:15:23 AM  

Spiralmonkey: THE GREAT NAME: Spiralmonkey: Meanwhile, back in the real world, the Health and Safety Executive has published a list of ridiculous decisions blamed on regulations (look at number 30) as reported by the BBC 4 days ago.

So a government department that has made itself unpopular is now spending government money on propoganda to make itself look good? Well colour me surprised.

Am I missing something here? Where's the propaganda? Government department publishes examples of urban myths to show people they don't have to comply with random made-up stuff - is that a bad thing?


Its selective. They're picking out less than 20 examples per month and listing them all together so it looks like a long list. But its a fraction of what actually goes on. Just enough to be persuasive but a drop in the ocean. Is case 30 the actual same case as in the article? Probably not. The tenents in the artile will still be forced to comply, and pervasive nanny-statism will continue to thrive. In fact it will benefit from its proponentshaving a new apologist counterargument thanks to this propoganda site.
 
2012-08-28 06:24:25 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: Spiralmonkey: THE GREAT NAME: Spiralmonkey: Meanwhile, back in the real world, the Health and Safety Executive has published a list of ridiculous decisions blamed on regulations (look at number 30) as reported by the BBC 4 days ago.

So a government department that has made itself unpopular is now spending government money on propoganda to make itself look good? Well colour me surprised.

Am I missing something here? Where's the propaganda? Government department publishes examples of urban myths to show people they don't have to comply with random made-up stuff - is that a bad thing?

Its selective. They're picking out less than 20 examples per month and listing them all together so it looks like a long list. But its a fraction of what actually goes on. Just enough to be persuasive but a drop in the ocean. Is case 30 the actual same case as in the article? Probably not. The tenents in the artile will still be forced to comply, and pervasive nanny-statism will continue to thrive. In fact it will benefit from its proponentshaving a new apologist counterargument thanks to this propoganda site.


As trolling goes it's not bad, but by not addressing the actual point - which is that the site is there to stop people complying with random farkwit rules which are not supported by law, and are imposed by random farkwit groups - you're missing out on a great opportunity for blaming the government for not having these rules. Where's your outrage that the government wants little old ladies to die horribly by putting tat on the walls?
 
2012-08-28 06:48:18 AM  

LewDux: It's political correctness gone mad


You can't say that any more. It's political correctness gone mentally ill.
 
2012-08-28 07:12:25 AM  

Wicked Kitty: Where's your outrage that the government wants little old ladies to die horribly by putting tat on the walls?


I left it on your mamma's dresser.
 
2012-08-28 07:32:57 AM  
They let them keep the walls and roofs, though? Couldn't those be considered fire hazards as well?
 
2012-08-28 08:13:42 AM  
can one of my fellow farkers from across the pond explain the "nanny state" to me?


cheers
 
2012-08-28 08:28:05 AM  
You also better ban matches, lighters, and using the stove/oven
 
2012-08-28 09:15:49 AM  

Freakin Rican: can one of my fellow farkers from across the pond explain the "nanny state" to me?


The right wing papers over here get into a froth about various petty regulations, supposedly implemented by over-zealous authorities for our own good. There's some truth in it, particularly when 'health and safety' is used by firms and organisations as an easy way to get out of expensive, inconvenient or difficult decisions, or by clueless petty employees to cover their rear ends.

In most cases, however the stories are one-sided, wildly exaggerated, perfectly sensible in retrospect or just plain made up. They are still published as they fit in with the average Daily Mail reader's need to get into a regular self-righteous froth over some manufactured outrage, and also with the need for some US farkers to have a sneer at other nations whose inferiority is manifested by their 1) giving free medical care to undeserving poor people and 2) lack of weekly mass shootings. There are bonus points in these stories for pictures of grumpy mums with their arms folded or feisty pensioners who served in the WW2.
 
2012-08-28 09:35:32 AM  

Wicked Kitty: Freakin Rican: can one of my fellow farkers from across the pond explain the "nanny state" to me?

The right wing papers over here get into a froth about various petty regulations, supposedly implemented by over-zealous authorities for our own good. There's some truth in it, particularly when 'health and safety' is used by firms and organisations as an easy way to get out of expensive, inconvenient or difficult decisions, or by clueless petty employees to cover their rear ends.

In most cases, however the stories are one-sided, wildly exaggerated, perfectly sensible in retrospect or just plain made up. They are still published as they fit in with the average Daily Mail reader's need to get into a regular self-righteous froth over some manufactured outrage, and also with the need for some US farkers to have a sneer at other nations whose inferiority is manifested by their 1) giving free medical care to undeserving poor people and 2) lack of weekly mass shootings. There are bonus points in these stories for pictures of grumpy mums with their arms folded or feisty pensioners who served in the WW2.


thanks!
 
2012-08-28 09:42:43 AM  
The UK peeked in 1940 and it has been downhill ever since. Churchill was correct.
 
2012-08-28 10:02:25 AM  

chuckufarlie: The UK peeked in 1940 and it has been downhill ever since. Churchill was correct.


The UK's problem was over-expansion. It got to the point it was so large it couldn't govern, any more.

Same could be said of the Romans, as well.
 
2012-08-28 10:05:10 AM  
Just recently here in So Cal, i got a strongly worded letter telling me the dangers of my doormat and that i need to remove it. they dont seem to mind my oven though. damn thing has fire shooting out of it.
 
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