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(Daily Mail)   Van Gogh, genius of color, color blind? Here comes the science   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 34
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2012-08-27 11:46:08 PM  
Meh, I know no other way to look at it than through the color blind eye.
 
2012-08-27 11:47:13 PM  
As a student of art i never thought of van gogh as a genius of color.

More a genius of form and interpretation.
 
2012-08-27 11:52:06 PM  
He did have an ear for it, didn't he?
 
2012-08-28 12:37:46 AM  
I just don't get art.
 
2012-08-28 01:04:01 AM  
Color blind doesn't mean you can't see all colors, only that some colors look the same.

There was also some cool theory where the old cateract replacement lenses they used would allow you to see UV light. So one artist got that surgery, and then redefined the color blue.
 
2012-08-28 01:06:44 AM  

doglover: Color blind doesn't mean you can't see all colors, only that some colors look the same.

There was also some cool theory where the old cateract replacement lenses they used would allow you to see UV light. So one artist got that surgery, and then redefined the color blue.


it turns out that there are some women who can see a color that most people (and most women) cannot, as well.
 
2012-08-28 02:20:36 AM  

Asa Phelps: doglover: Color blind doesn't mean you can't see all colors, only that some colors look the same.

There was also some cool theory where the old cateract replacement lenses they used would allow you to see UV light. So one artist got that surgery, and then redefined the color blue.

it turns out that there are some women who can see a color that most people (and most women) cannot, as well.


We call it grurple.
 
2012-08-28 02:57:03 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: He did have an ear for it, didn't he?


Hear, hear!
 
2012-08-28 03:12:58 AM  

Asa Phelps: doglover: Color blind doesn't mean you can't see all colors, only that some colors look the same.

There was also some cool theory where the old cateract replacement lenses they used would allow you to see UV light. So one artist got that surgery, and then redefined the color blue.

it turns out that there are some women who can see a color that most people (and most women) cannot, as well.


I think they just have broader a spectrum because of the 4th kind of cones. That was the thread I learned about seeing UV(a personal dream)
 
2012-08-28 06:55:49 AM  

Asa Phelps: doglover: Color blind doesn't mean you can't see all colors, only that some colors look the same.

There was also some cool theory where the old cateract replacement lenses they used would allow you to see UV light. So one artist got that surgery, and then redefined the color blue.

it turns out that there are some women who can see a color that most people (and most women) cannot, as well.


It's tetrachromacy. I have this.
 
2012-08-28 06:58:29 AM  
A Daily Mail article comprised of 85% pictures and 15% story? Say it ain't so.
 
2012-08-28 07:01:12 AM  
www.panicposters.com
 
2012-08-28 07:13:51 AM  

Spoon over Marin: Asa Phelps: doglover: Color blind doesn't mean you can't see all colors, only that some colors look the same.

There was also some cool theory where the old cateract replacement lenses they used would allow you to see UV light. So one artist got that surgery, and then redefined the color blue.

it turns out that there are some women who can see a color that most people (and most women) cannot, as well.

It's tetrachromacy. I have this.


Yep. Mrs. Drongo has it as well. Leads to lots of discussions with me saying "they're the same damn colour, look, it even says so on the label" and her responding "label was written by a man. Probably used different dyes. They look the same to *you* but they're different.".

Wish I had 4 different kinds of cone. UV would be awesome, but then so would IR vision (which IS achievable - if you start eating a lot of food with a variant of vitamin A in it that's NOT vitamin A but close...it causes a different sensitivity in your eyes for red that's much lower. Was an experiment in WW2 on it before they abandoned the whole idea and built IR goggles instead).
 
2012-08-28 07:19:51 AM  

Wizard Drongo: Spoon over Marin: Asa Phelps: doglover: Color blind doesn't mean you can't see all colors, only that some colors look the same.

There was also some cool theory where the old cateract replacement lenses they used would allow you to see UV light. So one artist got that surgery, and then redefined the color blue.

it turns out that there are some women who can see a color that most people (and most women) cannot, as well.

It's tetrachromacy. I have this.

Yep. Mrs. Drongo has it as well. Leads to lots of discussions with me saying "they're the same damn colour, look, it even says so on the label" and her responding "label was written by a man. Probably used different dyes. They look the same to *you* but they're different.".

Wish I had 4 different kinds of cone. UV would be awesome, but then so would IR vision (which IS achievable - if you start eating a lot of food with a variant of vitamin A in it that's NOT vitamin A but close...it causes a different sensitivity in your eyes for red that's much lower. Was an experiment in WW2 on it before they abandoned the whole idea and built IR goggles instead).


You should ask her if she thinks the Van Goghs look better before or after in the article. I think they look better before.
I don't think I would want UV vision. I have a hard enough time pairing shirts and pants that no one but me would notice don't quite match.
 
2012-08-28 07:26:52 AM  
EVERYONE who is colour blind is FAKING IT! i should know because one time i faked being blue-yellow colour blind
 
2012-08-28 08:00:14 AM  
Quick question for you US farkers; why do the great people of your country always murder this guy's name? Van Go ? How did you ever get that?

/Pronunciation enthusiast.
 
2012-08-28 08:07:11 AM  
See, Farkers, this is how its done.
When you are going to make stuff up, aim high!
Van Gogh was color blind you say? Sure! Einstien could never tell his right from his left! Hitler was actually afraid of the dark and always had a light going!
Beethoven was deaf!
 
2012-08-28 08:28:38 AM  

Turbozutek: Quick question for you US farkers; why do the great people of your country always murder this guy's name? Van Go ? How did you ever get that?

/Pronunciation enthusiast.


I had no idea it was pronounced otherwise, so thank you! Maybe I'll sound less like an ignorant fark from now on (unlikely).

Link to actual pronunciation
 
2012-08-28 08:31:07 AM  
that may very well be the dumbest thing Ive ever read. If you look at colorful paintings as a colorblind person they look more muted and understated?
i.imgur.com

Hey! I bet Picasso was colorblind too and his whole blue period was just a paint store mix up.
 
2012-08-28 08:38:29 AM  

TheOriginalEd: that may very well be the dumbest thing Ive ever read. If you look at colorful paintings as a colorblind person they look more muted and understated?
[i.imgur.com image 308x306]

Hey! I bet Picasso was colorblind too and his whole blue period was just a paint store mix up.


forum.i3d.net
 
2012-08-28 08:41:07 AM  
Fell In Love With a Chair:
I had no idea it was pronounced otherwise, so thank you! Maybe I'll sound less like an ignorant fark from now on (unlikely).


You're welcome! I noticed when in Amsterdam that the Americans there were even pronouncing it incorrectly after a guided tour of the Van Gogh museum (facepalm). Ok, next word to practice at home, US? 'Solder' - difficulty level: no such thing as a silent L in the middle of a word!

/More pronunciation fun next time, pals!
 
2012-08-28 08:41:08 AM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-08-28 08:50:05 AM  

doglover: Color blind doesn't mean you can't see all colors, only that some colors look the same.


THIS
I'm colorblind (and an "artist", so I'm getting a kick, etc.), and I could see the differences in the photos in the article very clearly. The paintings, less so. I could see the differences, but I had to look for them.
 
2012-08-28 08:54:19 AM  
 
2012-08-28 09:25:01 AM  

Tarmangani: doglover: Color blind doesn't mean you can't see all colors, only that some colors look the same.

THIS
I'm colorblind (and an "artist", so I'm getting a kick, etc.), and I could see the differences in the photos in the article very clearly. The paintings, less so. I could see the differences, but I had to look for them.


Also colour blind (and also paint, but not for anything other than enjoyment). I couldn't really tell the difference between the paintings at all.

The photo differences were screamingly obvious though.

Odd.
 
2012-08-28 09:39:47 AM  
And El Greco had astigmatism, blah, blah, blah..

/Horseshiat
 
2012-08-28 09:48:12 AM  

footshot: Tarmangani: doglover: Color blind doesn't mean you can't see all colors, only that some colors look the same.

THIS
I'm colorblind (and an "artist", so I'm getting a kick, etc.), and I could see the differences in the photos in the article very clearly. The paintings, less so. I could see the differences, but I had to look for them.

Also colour blind (and also paint, but not for anything other than enjoyment). I couldn't really tell the difference between the paintings at all.

The photo differences were screamingly obvious though.

Odd.


Aside from the first two photo comparisons, I could see no difference between any of the pictures. I'm a confirmed protanomate, so perhaps this indicates a fairly accurate depiction of the vision change if I can't see any difference.
 
2012-08-28 10:12:47 AM  

Turbozutek: Fell In Love With a Chair:
I had no idea it was pronounced otherwise, so thank you! Maybe I'll sound less like an ignorant fark from now on (unlikely).

You're welcome! I noticed when in Amsterdam that the Americans there were even pronouncing it incorrectly after a guided tour of the Van Gogh museum (facepalm). Ok, next word to practice at home, US? 'Solder' - difficulty level: no such thing as a silent L in the middle of a word!

/More pronunciation fun next time, pals!


Yes there is.
 
2012-08-28 10:24:02 AM  

The_Eliminator: Aside from the first two photo comparisons, I could see no difference between any of the pictures. I'm a confirmed protanomate, so perhaps this indicates a fairly accurate depiction of the vision change if I can't see any difference.


Proto-what-now? I don't think we had that when I was a kid. It was "can you see a number in those bubble things kid?"...."No, well you're red/green deficient then, now get back to class" :)

I guess that means it comes in varying degrees of severity?
 
2012-08-28 10:42:56 AM  

The_Eliminator: Aside from the first two photo comparisons, I could see no difference between any of the pictures. I'm a confirmed protanomate, so perhaps this indicates a fairly accurate depiction of the vision change if I can't see any difference.


First time I've seen a test that doesn't involve the bubble things, and it purports to be more accurate too (with the added bonus of giving an indication of severity).

http://www.colblindor.com/rgb-anomaloscope-color-blindness-test/

Apparently, I'm "weak"....no surprise there, that just about sums me up :)
 
2012-08-28 11:48:26 AM  
I read that he may have had cataracts which led to the 'smearing' of light ala 'Starry Night'.

This makes sense.
 
2012-08-28 11:51:52 AM  
Of course he had different vision than everyone else, that's why he could see the Krafayis when even the Doctor could not.
 
2012-08-28 11:52:36 AM  
Also, I set my Fark settings to colourblind link colours a few weeks ago and I'm not colourblind. I haven't changed it back. I have no explanation for my actions.
 
2012-08-28 12:25:51 PM  
It could also be because of the man in the hat: Sacre Bleu
 
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