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2012-08-27 10:48:38 PM  
Your opinion man, that's just well, like.
 
2012-08-27 10:49:28 PM  
The first 5 or so results for "trimming sucks" on google are cannabis related, and echo my sentiments about trimming buds, and seem to end with "get some buddies to help."

"My fingers hurt. I've been trimming for 5 hours off and on and still yet to finish one plant. Wet weight all trimmed up so far is over 6oz so i'm expecting at least to zips from this one, i think i will do just one more tonight, ...but fark that right now.:

"It makes my fingers cramp and sore plus its just a pain to do it."

"...bottom line..trimming (sux) is my least favorite part of growing. I used to trim like I was entering a poodle in an akc dog show..now, unless I am really (rarely) in the mood I don't bother trimming the sweetleaf from buds..I don't think the sweetleaf declines enough to warrant the time and effort trimming....opinions?"
 
2012-08-27 10:51:14 PM  

Indubitably: I just had a brilliant idea.

Just brilliant.

All religios/lawbies must imbibe LSD/psilocybin immediately.

Politics in twenty four hours: priceless.

;)


I've said that for years.
 
2012-08-27 10:51:17 PM  

lewismarktwo: I have a feeling we're in agreement and just don't know it.



More than likely, my apologies if so. I had a bhang bar and a couple kinds of wax earlier.
 
2012-08-27 10:54:00 PM  

jackiepaper: Point02GPA: Well. that helps explain President Obama.

the guy who graduated summa from Harvard Law? Ya, that devil weed sure did a number on him


You may have mis-read my post. I was trying to give "The Pres" props for knowing when to quit being "Berry", and having the drive to become "The son of his father's dreams".

Sorry I wasn't more clear on my props.

/larry
 
2012-08-27 10:55:54 PM  

Umfufu: Ummm...couple of nice points...BUT...can you get arrested for driving under the influence of cigarettes? I imagine the taxes alone on pot cigarettes sets up a price that could be beaten illicitly. There would have to be whole infrastructure, or greatly enhanced the current infrastructure, just to enforce this aspect. Several states have agencies to enforce liquor and cigarettes, and adding pot just adds that much more. Driving Under the Influence takes a serious jump. Not only will drunk drivers be on the road, but stoned drivers as well, or even both.


No, the taxes would not make illicit products competitive.

Based on current cigarette costs, the actual cost of an industrially produced joint would probably be at most - 5 cents each. Five Cents, and that's on the high end. My guess it that it would probably only cost half of that, 2.5 cents - or less. Weed is easy to grow, cheap to grow and much easier and cheaper to process than cigarette tobacco.

So the tobacco company mark up their product 100%, to 5 cents per joint. even at a farking massive 2000% tax rate you'd get a One Dollar joint. Add in state and local taxes, move it up to 4000% tax - 4000 PERCENT - and you get a $2 joint. Not just a $2 joint, but a high quality, reliable, fresh, additive free, consistent, joint. Each brand, exactly the same, every single time.

The illicit vendors would be destroyed.

As for DUI, there are already tests to determine levels of drug impairment. OTC drug abuse is far worse problem in that regard. Breathalyzers aren't perfect. Were weed legalized, you can be sure the market would respond with an abundance of new testing apparatus for law enforcement.
 
2012-08-27 10:56:17 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Studies like this just piss me off, mainly because I'm looking in the freezer for some ice pops and the box is in there with a tear in its side from that time i went to grab it by the lip and it tore because the bag of frozen chicken legs was sort of on top of it even though I couldn't tell at first and so when i pulled the bag it tore and a couple of ice pops fell out on the floor and my dog got two of them and ran outside. She doesn't have a dog door but she tore the screen and my friend judy said I'd better fix it because, man, squirrels. Can you imagine how a squirrel would be in a house? Running around all frantic and hopping on stuff. I heard once that squirrels can make noise but I've never heard one do anything but scamper, and that's not really noise if you think about that's just their claws on tree bark. Squirrel claw. Squirrel Claw. Squirrelclaw. That would make an awesome name for a superhero or something, maybe not a superhero but like a super power, like the guy can make his hand take the shape of a squirrel's claw and scamper up a building. Like spiderman, but not a spider, you know? Man, I want an ice pop.


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Kim Deal is a Fark member?
 
2012-08-27 10:57:17 PM  
www.420magazine.com
 
2012-08-27 10:57:42 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Studies like this just piss me off, mainly because I'm looking in the freezer for some ice pops and the box is in there with a tear in its side from that time i went to grab it by the lip and it tore because the bag of frozen chicken legs was sort of on top of it even though I couldn't tell at first and so when i pulled the bag it tore and a couple of ice pops fell out on the floor and my dog got two of them and ran outside. She doesn't have a dog door but she tore the screen and my friend judy said I'd better fix it because, man, squirrels. Can you imagine how a squirrel would be in a house? Running around all frantic and hopping on stuff. I heard once that squirrels can make noise but I've never heard one do anything but scamper, and that's not really noise if you think about that's just their claws on tree bark. Squirrel claw. Squirrel Claw. Squirrelclaw. That would make an awesome name for a superhero or something, maybe not a superhero but like a super power, like the guy can make his hand take the shape of a squirrel's claw and scamper up a building. Like spiderman, but not a spider, you know? Man, I want an ice pop.


That was farkin brilliant :)
 
2012-08-27 11:01:08 PM  
Why do people [esp. non smokers] assume all pot smokers just sit and watch shiatty tv?

Myself, I enjoy a good hike, a stimulating documentary, sex with my gf, painting, reading books, going dancing, playing with my 3yo niece and reading to her, teaching her about the world and nature....not watching the idiot box....and I love all of these even more on weed.
Not to mention it works far better for my slipped discs in the lower back than vicodin [seriously fark that shiat].

I was recently hit by a truck while walking...shattered my tibula and fibula. As soon as I got home from a week of intensive care and physical therapy, I stopped taking the Vic's and smoked my weed. Recovered in slightly under the expected 3months...I'm up walking, working, hiking, etc again...doc was amazed...and maybe the fact that I work out daily and take a 5 mile walk each day helped speed the recovery up..but I honestly believe the mj was beneficial as well...my pysch evaluation came back with flying colors..so smoking weed for the past decade didn't seem to affect THAT either...
 
2012-08-27 11:01:29 PM  
Will read the thread after I post...

A bit scary for me as I started tokin' at ten...When I started college at thirty eight I took many tests including IQ tests tested out at 124, I graduated with a 3.999 GPA.

To think I could have been at 132.. I'm rather ambivalent about this. It could have helped me, yet I adored college, studied hard, did well, had/have a small core of real friends. I love what I do, things are hard and getting harder. But I've done without more things most people could imagine and have survived and thrived in spite of adversity.

I would probably be in a better spot financially but you play the hand your dealt I guess.
 
2012-08-27 11:04:02 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Studies like this just piss me off, mainly because I'm looking in the freezer for some ice pops and the box is in there with a tear in its side from that time i went to grab it by the lip and it tore because the bag of frozen chicken legs was sort of on top of it even though I couldn't tell at first and so when i pulled the bag it tore and a couple of ice pops fell out on the floor and my dog got two of them and ran outside. She doesn't have a dog door but she tore the screen and my friend judy said I'd better fix it because, man, squirrels. Can you imagine how a squirrel would be in a house? Running around all frantic and hopping on stuff. I heard once that squirrels can make noise but I've never heard one do anything but scamper, and that's not really noise if you think about that's just their claws on tree bark. Squirrel claw. Squirrel Claw. Squirrelclaw. That would make an awesome name for a superhero or something, maybe not a superhero but like a super power, like the guy can make his hand take the shape of a squirrel's claw and scamper up a building. Like spiderman, but not a spider, you know? Man, I want an ice pop.


SQUIRRELCLAW!! YEAA!!

That would make a fantastic meme.

You're good man. Real good.
 
2012-08-27 11:09:15 PM  
Have to check with Jim Anchower to see what his thoughts on this study are.
 
2012-08-27 11:09:52 PM  

OK So Amuse Me: I took many tests including IQ tests tested out at 124, To think I could have been at 132


If you're so smart, why haven't you realized that an average 8 point drop for a person of average IQ - 100, is a rather more dramatic decrease that you may have suffered?

For the average person, it could bring the potential for a substantial decrease in mental acuity.  Even worse, for those innately at the limits of the competency barrier, this could result in a debilitating IQ loss.
 
2012-08-27 11:13:04 PM  

sparkeyjames: StuffAnAll sounds like a new fark drug.


Stuffinole
Stephinaliumide bicitrate

"That's too bad that that happened, but maybe we can chill out later. I'll be here, just enjoying this. Hope it all goes alright. I'm here for ya, man. We got nachos."
 
2012-08-27 11:15:48 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I'm totally pro-legalization, but the responses from stoners to these studies is always hilarious. "Hey man, that's like, so not true. Pot cures my fibromyalgia and increases my brain function, dude."

Just be honest pot-heads, being high feels awesome. That's all the justification you need. Stop trying to rationalize that it's just miracle drug, it makes you look like a kinda dumb burn-out.


It does feel awesome, it can either give me energy and motivation to deal with life, housework, etc, or help me relax so i can sleep at night. If that doesn't make it a wonderdrug, what does?
 
2012-08-27 11:18:50 PM  

apres_ski_god: Have to check with Jim Anchower to see what his thoughts on this study are.


For some unknown reason, when I read Anchower, my eyes tear up.
 
2012-08-27 11:20:26 PM  

The Ghost of Tom Ace: So people lose a few IQ points in exchange for being able to cope with life's lemons and enjoying life's lemonade just that much more?

I'd say it's a fair trade. Besides, people should have the right to do whatever the fark they want.


I smoke weed to help keep me from burning life's house down. With the lemons.
 
2012-08-27 11:22:47 PM  

mekki: FloydA: What's ironic is that these data will probably be used to try to support a "tough on drugs" stance, when in fact, the most effective way to reduce teenagers' access to pot would be to legalize it and treat it like alcohol or tobacco- no ID, no sale. The street corner pot dealers don't ask for ID, but shop clerks do. Legalize it for sale to adults and the profit will drop out of the bottom, so the criminal gangs won't sell it anymore. Immediately, teenagers' access to pot would be dramatically diminished.

Yeah, because underaged kids never drink or smoke or find ways to get alcohol and cigarettes. This will decrease drug use for sure.


They steal liquor and beer from their parents' refrigerators and cabinets, and pay older siblings and classmates who are legal to buy them smokes. Plus, there are any number of parents who gladly allow their kids to drink and smoke because thank god they're not doing drugs.

Legalize pot, and you'll see a drop in pot smoking but I suspect a great increase in booze and alcohol.
 
2012-08-27 11:26:10 PM  

dopekitty74: If that doesn't make it a wonderdrug, what does?


It enlarges the size of your breasts, I hear.*I can't say I've seen visual evidence of this myself ;-)

*IF you're a guy
 
2012-08-27 11:36:16 PM  

IronJelly: Seriously?

I use pot for this exact effect, and I have been since I discovered it at 14 years old. Smoking is the ONLY way I have found to get my brain to shut up. It cures my migraines faster than Excedrin, and it relaxes my mind enough that I can actually fall asleep or watch non intellectual TV (for example, I can't stand Family Guy unless I'm baked). My IQ might maybe be lower while I am under the influence, but it certainly doesn't stay that way.

I can't possibly be the only one to use it for this purpose. I thought for like 6 years after I started that this was what it's for.


Def helped me get a good night of sleep. brain dont stop either..
 
2012-08-27 11:40:35 PM  

UsikFark: dopekitty74: If that doesn't make it a wonderdrug, what does?

It enlarges the size of your breasts, I hear.*I can't say I've seen visual evidence of this myself ;-)

*IF you're a guy


It may also work on women :)

/started toking at 15, 40F
 
2012-08-27 11:48:24 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Just be honest pot-heads, being high feels awesome. That's all the justification you need. Stop trying to rationalize that it's just miracle drug, it makes you look like a kinda dumb burn-out.


Exactly.

And when real science proves real consequences, don't deny them, just weigh the benefits versus the costs.

Is pot worth being a little dumber? Is heavy put use worth a substantial increase in respiratory diseases? An occasional smoke (once weekly or less) doesn't seem to carry substantial respiratory risks, but heavy smoking? Yeah, it does seem to. Some studies have indicated a substantial risk of lung cancer among heavy smokers. Doctors I know say the only young lung cancer patients they see are heavy pot smokers. (yeah, completely anecdotal, but still, CANCER, ugh).
 
2012-08-27 11:48:25 PM  

dopekitty74: UsikFark: dopekitty74: If that doesn't make it a wonderdrug, what does?

It enlarges the size of your breasts, I hear.*I can't say I've seen visual evidence of this myself ;-)

*IF you're a guy

It may also work on women :)

/started toking at 15, 40F


*bows to queen of breasts.*
 
2012-08-27 11:53:20 PM  
Thought I would have found this in a Ric Romero thread.

Repetitive cognitive disruptions over time = dysfunction. Wow, I'm impressed. Go researchers! After that topic I would really like a political poll number or a Florida hurricane update.

Blagahhh!
 
2012-08-27 11:56:09 PM  
Suggestion: Take ANY mind altering substance -- legal, illegal -- do similar tests and see how many will do brain damage, among other things.

Especially in the 'legal' area.

Booze tears your arss up, but few biatch about that.

Take a group of kids from a heavily industrialized city and compare their tests with those from one with few industries. You'll find brain and organ damage in higher amounts among those who live in the heavily industrialized city -- along with traces of a LOT of heavy metals not found in the other group.
 
2012-08-28 12:15:05 AM  
Dude, it's not the 70s, man. Why don't you study the lasting effects of smoking crack or huffing daily? You might as well have studied the effects of wearing your spats too tight.
 
2012-08-28 12:24:20 AM  
Boudica's War Tampon~

Some recent studies suggest "Drive-Bys" may decrease IQ's.
 
2012-08-28 12:36:04 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: If you want to trade a few IQ points and other mental faculties for relief of migraines and other maladies, go ahead



Excercise sharpens the mind. How many IQ points are lost to sitting on your ass and watching stupid tv for hours?

Fish is brain food. How many IQ points are lost to not eating fish every day?

Jigsaw puzzles and card games such as poker may make the mind more alert. How many IQ points are lost to not doing jigsaw puzzles and playing cards daily?

Cruciferous vegetables have been proven to prevent cancer. How many deaths are due to not eating broccoli daily?

There oughta be a law to enforce all of these activities to enforce a 8 point gain...or else!
 
2012-08-28 12:37:44 AM  
FTFA: The decline in IQ among persistent cannabis users could not be explained by alcohol or other drug use or by having less education, Moffitt said.

Citation needed!
 
2012-08-28 12:39:30 AM  

Point02GPA: Boudica's War Tampon~

Some recent studies suggest "Drive-Bys" may decrease IQ's.


See? Modern statistics.

Thanks again for the free subscription. Very nice of you.
 
2012-08-28 12:51:15 AM  

FloydA: What's ironic is that these data will probably be used to try to support a "tough on drugs" stance, when in fact, the most effective way to reduce teenagers' access to pot would be to legalize it and treat it like alcohol or tobacco- no ID, no sale. The street corner pot dealers don't ask for ID, but shop clerks do. Legalize it for sale to adults and the profit will drop out of the bottom, so the criminal gangs won't sell it anymore. Immediately, teenagers' access to pot would be dramatically diminished.


I am sorry, but this just plain makes way too much sense and is way too straight forward... Change everything about this plan and then get back to us...
 
2012-08-28 12:52:40 AM  

RandomRandom: An occasional smoke (once weekly or less) doesn't seem to carry substantial respiratory risks


In fact, recent studies have shown that occasional pot use INCREASES respiratory function, and that social tokers breathe better and suffer from fewer respiratory problems than not only tobacco smokers, but even people who have never had a puff of anything at all.

/the more you know
 
2012-08-28 12:52:41 AM  

Indubitably: /i could teach japanese to a monkey if i knew how to relate the material

*symbol-symbol, symbol*


www.uniquely-portland-oregon.com
 
2012-08-28 12:54:54 AM  

WeenerGord: Indubitably: /i could teach japanese to a monkey if i knew how to relate the material

*symbol-symbol, symbol*

[www.uniquely-portland-oregon.com image 400x269]


That little dude looks soooooooo baked right now...
 
2012-08-28 12:59:56 AM  

Rik01: Suggestion: Take ANY mind altering substance -- legal, illegal -- do similar tests and see how many will do brain damage, among other things.

Especially in the 'legal' area.

Booze tears your arss up, but few biatch about that.



Perhaps you should cut down on butt-chugging.
 
2012-08-28 01:00:08 AM  
Science Daily is to science as Fox News is to news.
 
2012-08-28 01:01:23 AM  

jvl: Oznog: And you'll, like, marvel at the stars and shiat. STARS, man... we're all, like, MADE of them. hehehehe.... whoa.

When discussing Carl Sagan's use of marijuana, it is important to point out that you are not Carl Farking Sagan and should not attempt to draw conclusions from his use.



Maybe he's not a heavily dependent user since childhood from New Zealand, either.

You could lose 8 points of IQ just from having left school, and been stuck in a boring, dead end job for years, too.
 
2012-08-28 01:30:19 AM  

Rik01: Booze tears your arss up, but few biatch about that.


Few except the thousands of studies that show that frequent alcohol abuse is bad for your body and your social life. The difference is that alcoholics and most harder drug addicts will readily admit they know what they're doing isn't great for their long term prognosis.
 
2012-08-28 02:04:59 AM  
Remember kids, poke smot every day.
 
2012-08-28 02:19:24 AM  

radarlove: In fact, recent studies have shown that occasional pot use INCREASES respiratory function, and that social tokers breathe better and suffer from fewer respiratory problems than not only tobacco smokers, but even people who have never had a puff of anything at all.


True, there have been studies that indicated increased respiratory function for "occasional" users. They suspect it may have to do with frequent deep breathing involved in smoking up. This suggests that deep breathing exercises could accomplish the same result, that would be an interesting study.

Here's the key though, the studies defined "occasional use" as smoking once a week or less.

I'd bet that a lot of people who consider themselves to be "occasional users", are in fact heavy users. If that once-a-week smoke is a 4 hours of bong hits, yeah, that's not "occasional". Only smoking on weekends isn't occasional either, not by the definition of those studies.

Most smokers I know definitely qualify as medium to heavy users. Heavy users risk a variety of respiratory diseases, up to and including Lung Cancer.
 
2012-08-28 02:30:18 AM  

RandomRandom: radarlove: In fact, recent studies have shown that occasional pot use INCREASES respiratory function, and that social tokers breathe better and suffer from fewer respiratory problems than not only tobacco smokers, but even people who have never had a puff of anything at all.

True, there have been studies that indicated increased respiratory function for "occasional" users. They suspect it may have to do with frequent deep breathing involved in smoking up. This suggests that deep breathing exercises could accomplish the same result, that would be an interesting study.

Here's the key though, the studies defined "occasional use" as smoking once a week or less.

I'd bet that a lot of people who consider themselves to be "occasional users", are in fact heavy users. If that once-a-week smoke is a 4 hours of bong hits, yeah, that's not "occasional". Only smoking on weekends isn't occasional either, not by the definition of those studies.

Most smokers I know definitely qualify as medium to heavy users. Heavy users risk a variety of respiratory diseases, up to and including Lung Cancer.


You know, if they burn it with fire, which you are under no obligation to do. Vapes pay for themselves because they're so efficient I don't know why 'heavy' users wouldn't buy one.
 
2012-08-28 02:36:24 AM  

FloydA: What's ironic is that these data will probably be used to try to support a "tough on drugs" stance, when in fact, the most effective way to reduce teenagers' access to pot would be to legalize it and treat it like alcohol or tobacco- no ID, no sale. The street corner pot dealers don't ask for ID, but shop clerks do. Legalize it for sale to adults and the profit will drop out of the bottom, so the criminal gangs won't sell it anymore. Immediately, teenagers' access to pot would be dramatically diminished.


You sir are a moron. Kids get alcohol easier than just about anything else besides cigarettes. You at least have to know someone to get pot.

Locally our prosecutor says Heroin is the biggest factor in crime. Can you really tell me that legalizing heroin will mean the addicts have access to it without needing to commit crimes? Their habits are more than their federal checks can support by a long run. They will continue to use crime to obtain it.

The same goes for kids and Pot, if its legal then all you need is someone over 18 to buy it for you, which is a damn sight easier than finding someone who will sell a kid marijuana. And no i dont care that you know fifty people you can get a joint from in five minutes....all that establishes is that you are a stain on the civic underoos.

In any case drugs are in their heyday in this century. As soon as there is such a thing as nano-drones there will be trillions of them that have a hunger for the various drug plants. Then you can kiss em goodbye.

RandomRandom: radarlove: In fact, recent studies have shown that occasional pot use INCREASES respiratory function, and that social tokers breathe better and suffer from fewer respiratory problems than not only tobacco smokers, but even people who have never had a puff of anything at all.

True, there have been studies that indicated increased respiratory function for "occasional" users. They suspect it may have to do with frequent deep breathing involved in smoking up. This suggests that deep breathing exercises could accomplish the same result, that would be an interesting study.

Here's the key though, the studies defined "occasional use" as smoking once a week or less.

I'd bet that a lot of people who consider themselves to be "occasional users", are in fact heavy users. If that once-a-week smoke is a 4 hours of bong hits, yeah, that's not "occasional". Only smoking on weekends isn't occasional either, not by the definition of those studies.

Most smokers I know definitely qualify as medium to heavy users. Heavy users risk a variety of respiratory diseases, up to and including Lung Cancer.


You cant teach pot heads. They are convinced what they are doing is not wrong. And yes they are hurting their lungs, there is no such thing as a beneficial particulate introduced to the lungs in the same way as there are very very few harmless plant derived compounds that can be safely introduced to the blood stream. Most of the things we call plant derived medicines are actually toxins created by plants to keep us from eating them. They can be damn useful toxins, but I dont think MJ is on the list of things that are safe to convert to burned particulate and then introduce to your blood stream via inhaled particulates. Doing that with any whole natural material is probably a VERY bad idea from the standpoint of lung function and brain development.
 
2012-08-28 02:40:16 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: namegoeshere: - The persistent, dependent use of marijuana before age 18 has been shown to cause lasting harm to a person's intelligence, attention and memory, according to an international research team.

Among a long-range study cohort of more than 1,000 New Zealanders, individuals who started using cannabis in adolescence and used it for years afterward showed an average decline in IQ of 8 points when their age 13 and age 38 IQ tests were compared.


So we're talking about the heaviest, long-term users here. Anyone got a study about the effects of recreational use?

Especially for actual adults?

FTA: "Study subjects who didn't take up pot until they were adults with fully-formed brains did not show similar mental declines."

Another article mentioned that study subjects who started smoking pot during college and later quit had their mental faculties return to nearly their previous levels after a year.

Recent research suggests that the brain is not fully developed until the mid-20s.

If you want to trade a few IQ points and other mental faculties for relief of migraines and other maladies, go ahead. I understand perfectly.

But don't deny that a developing brain is more vulnerable to chemical damage than a mature, stable one. You'll end up sounding like creationists.



Yeah, pretty much this.
Neurological impairment due to pot use has been shown to be relatively short term and reversible in adults, but I wouldn't doubt at all that the highly plastic brain of a teenager is susceptible to permanent damage from regularly futzing around with neurotransmitter-like cannabinoids.


FloydA: What's ironic is that these data will probably be used to try to support a "tough on drugs" stance, when in fact, the most effective way to reduce teenagers' access to pot would be to legalize it and treat it like alcohol or tobacco- no ID, no sale. The street corner pot dealers don't ask for ID, but shop clerks do. Legalize it for sale to adults and the profit will drop out of the bottom, so the criminal gangs won't sell it anymore. Immediately, teenagers' access to pot would be dramatically diminished.


I'm not sure how much this would actually help, but it's readily available anyway so it certainly couldn't hurt.
While I don't smoke myself, I've always been for legalization. It isn't particularly harmful stuff, and there are so many benefits to legalization that it seems silly not to.
 
2012-08-28 02:47:03 AM  

lewismarktwo:

You know, if they burn it with fire, which you are under no obligation to do. Vapes pay for themselves because they're so efficient I don't know why 'heavy' users wouldn't buy one.


LOVE my vaporizer. Best money we ever spent. Uses less herb, too. And your vaped weed can be recycled. I'd much rather vape than smoke any day. VaporBrothers makes a damn fine box n' whip style one. Highly recommended. I even have an 18mm ground glass adapter for it that fits into my many bongs. So awesome! =)

RandomRandom: radarlove: In fact, recent studies have shown that occasional pot use INCREASES respiratory function, and that social tokers breathe better and suffer from fewer respiratory problems than not only tobacco smokers, but even people who have never had a puff of anything at all.

True, there have been studies that indicated increased respiratory function for "occasional" users. They suspect it may have to do with frequent deep breathing involved in smoking up. This suggests that deep breathing exercises could accomplish the same result, that would be an interesting study.

Here's the key though, the studies defined "occasional use" as smoking once a week or less.

I'd bet that a lot of people who consider themselves to be "occasional users", are in fact heavy users. If that once-a-week smoke is a 4 hours of bong hits, yeah, that's not "occasional". Only smoking on weekends isn't occasional either, not by the definition of those studies.

Most smokers I know definitely qualify as medium to heavy users. Heavy users risk a variety of respiratory diseases, up to and including Lung Cancer.


Yeah, I said occasional. I was very clear.

Though personally, I don't even mind the risks associated with heavy use. VERY heavy use.
 
2012-08-28 02:58:47 AM  
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2012-08-28 03:07:50 AM  

archichris: Blah, blah, drugs are bad, mmkay?


You must be a blast at parties. Keep crusading against that devil weed, you totally don't sound like a raving religious fanatic. You might as well wrap yourself up in that security blanket of smugness and self-righteousness. Clinging onto it with that white-knuckled death grip must be exhausting.
 
2012-08-28 03:22:00 AM  

Boudica's War Tampon: Dude, it's not the 70s, man. Why don't you study the lasting effects of smoking crack or huffing daily? You might as well have studied the effects of wearing your spats too tight.


Bunyons and gout?
 
2012-08-28 04:19:06 AM  
ONE WORD Piracetam (pops)
 
2012-08-28 04:24:26 AM  
Don't condescend me, man.

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