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2012-08-27 05:09:48 PM  

Sticky Hands: bunner: I suppose the trick is to not be so pigsh*t thick that you allow animated films to dictate your world view.

my worldview is dictated by Wizards and I'll be dammed if'n I'm going to let the internet change that.


That movie sucked, man. I know it hurts, but it's true. Yeah, Elinore is a Babe among Babes... but it takes more than The Sexiest Elf To Ever Be Committed To Drawing to make a movie.
 
2012-08-27 05:11:22 PM  

Cymbal: I would so fark the ever living shiat out of Jasmine. But then I realize her real life counterpart would be wearing a burka and plotting to bomb my testicles off.

Kinda takes the fun out it.


When I was last in Disneyland, around end of 2001, they had a fifteen minute or so outdoor stage show of Aladdin. During the reveal of the princess from her begger disguise, her robes came off revealing her movie outfit. The actress playing Jasmine that day was incredibly hot and had the most perfect body. When that stomach and shoulders were exposed, every guy in the audience hollered.
 
2012-08-27 05:11:36 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: WhippingBoy: The next Disney Princess is going to be an outraged, 300 pound lesbian named Glorioa (voiced by Rosie O'Donnell).

She will be fighting against the oppressive Hegemonic Patriarchy with the help of her magical friends:
- Kitsune, an outraged, trans-gendered POC who's into serious kink
- Mary-Ann, an outraged, bi-sexual (lesbian leaning) woman who constantly and deliberately puts her self into dangerous situations. Her wacky catchphrase is "stop blaming the victim"
- Loosey-Goosie, the outraged Slut Without Shame
- Jean Sixpack, a young, outraged character with no real convictions or mind of her own but who follows whatever the outraged Queen of Gender Studies tells her to believe without question

The movie will culminate with Gloria magically transforming into a trans-gendered man...

They're still working on a title, but it's scheduled for release in Christmas of 2013.

Those feminazi websites you go to have permanently damaged you... more so, I mean.


You mean like this one?
 
2012-08-27 05:11:55 PM  
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Go to Studio Ghibli for better-written female characters. Who do NOT set out as "marrying a prince" as their ultimate goal in life. "Getting the boy" is never the point of the plot.

Nor do they fit the mold for an Action Girl, although they do contain elements of it at times.

Action Girl is like Laura Croft, where they're just taking an action hero role and adapting it to a female character, and assuming that's somehow feminist. Often we get a Faux Action Girl who we're TOLD is "badass" through dialogue and other characters' reactions, but never actually kills anyone or does anything especially hardcore or morally questionable. Your standard fantasy female "warrior".

Reason #3 of #1000 why Ghibli is SO much better than Disney.
 
2012-08-27 05:13:33 PM  

skilbride: Basically, I wanted people to rewrite Disney fairytales - for example, instead of Prince Charming marrying Sleeping Beauty - he gets arrested for date rape.

;)

Read other examples here


Other than the arrest part, that's the French adaptation of the story. By the time she wakes up, she's got two kids.
 
2012-08-27 05:16:01 PM  

solaufein: Classic fairy tales, mostly:

Princess - Year of origin (mostly) followed by source in parentheses.

Snow White - 1812-1864 (Bros Grimm)
Cinderella - 1697 (Charles Perrault and older myths)
Aurora (Sleeping Beauty) - 1697 (Charles Perrault and Bros Grimm)
Ariel - 1837 (Hans Christian Anderson)
Belle - 1740 (Gabrielle-Suzanne Babot de Villeneuve)
Jasmine - 9th Century (Ancient Middle East)
Pocahontas - 1613 (loosely History based)
Mulan - between 1368 and 1644 (ancient Chinese legend of Hua Mulan - 386 to 534 A.D)
Tiana - 1812-1864 Bros Grimm / E.D Baker's 2002 novel "The Frog Princess"
Rapunzel - 1698 (French tale and Bros Grimm)
Merida - 2012 (Original)

source: http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Disney_Princess and http://www.wikipedia.org/ 

Only two really don't fit. Tiana (if you go with the 2002 origin) and Merida.


Of course the Disney versions have literally no resemblance to the original fairy tales. Didn't want to kids having nightmares by all the graphic violence, slaughter, rape, and nasty stuff that happen in them I am guessing.
 
2012-08-27 05:16:59 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: A relationship with Tink would be problematic.


Awww, you jizzed on Tink.
 
2012-08-27 05:17:57 PM  
WTF?
i141.photobucket.com
From the people who give us a talking mouse.
 
2012-08-27 05:18:21 PM  
My girlfriend dressed up as Poka-hotass last halloween.
 
2012-08-27 05:18:48 PM  
This thread needs more hot cosplay chicks in Disney princess garb.
 
2012-08-27 05:19:00 PM  

WhippingBoy: You mean like this one?


I'm not sullying my browser or brain, thanks though!
 
2012-08-27 05:19:35 PM  

otto the bull: My girlfriend dressed up as Poka-hotass last halloween.


Pics or it didn't happen. 8)
 
2012-08-27 05:21:25 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Then there is the one where 7 guys live with one woman.

But what a woman!
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Hey, who hasn't wanted to see seen a woman gangbanged by 7 midgets?


Fixed for 4Chan
 
2012-08-27 05:22:09 PM  
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Or something else completely?
 
2012-08-27 05:22:14 PM  
cdn01.dailycaller.com

I prefer the Mel Brooks princess.
 
2012-08-27 05:22:24 PM  

Cymbal: Then we'd turn to making reality porn.


img593.imageshack.us

half way there
 
2012-08-27 05:22:39 PM  

Gyrfalcon: In the parts of Tolkein that never made it into the published trilogy, there's a whole backstory about Eowyn and Eomer and why she was so distraught. Turns out the brother and sister were the children of Theoden's sister and a warrior who died young; Eowyn passionately loved her cousin, Theoden's son, who had been killed at the Battle of the Fords of Isen...so she latched onto Aragorn as the next best thing. It also explains why she turned to Faramir later--he was much closer to her cousin, personality-wise.


Pretty sure that was all in Two Towers and Return of the King, and that's not why she fell for Aragorn, and Faramir went after her. I admit I haven't read it in years but the only other book I read by Tolkien besides the Hobbit was Silmarillion, and I'm fairly certain it isn't in that.
 
2012-08-27 05:23:17 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: ExperianScaresCthulhu: pedalphile: Pickled Pepper reminded me of another Disney 'princess' whose parents were still alive:

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I hope the movie version of 'Peter and the Starcatchers' doesn't fark up the story line. First Peter plays the mother, then the daughter, and all the while has Tink on the side. There are perks to never growing up.

That's what bothers me. He had Tink. Why would he need anyone else? Yeah, I get it, he wants a Mom, someone to lead him and cuddle him and tell him it's going to be alright when he gets sick of being a Leader of Boys doing the leading and cuddling and telling his crew it's going to be alright, himself. Tink is so hardcore, though. She's his equal and more than his equal. But he can never fall in love with an equal. He can only fall in love with someone who.. what?

[i45.tinypic.com image 600x670]

A relationship with Tink would be problematic.


I imagine it would be like the scene from UHF where the kid gets to drink from the firehose.
 
2012-08-27 05:30:29 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Abe Vigoda's Ghost:
A relationship with Tink would be problematic.

I imagine it would be like the scene from UHF where the kid gets to drink from the firehose.


I can't stop laughing.... wtf was that??
 
2012-08-27 05:33:27 PM  

Gyrfalcon: HalEmmerich: CygnusDarius: Fark Disney.

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Fark Peter Jackson.

/I was going to suggest Eowyn out of Tolkien if you're looking for a female role model, but I guess outside the 'I am no man' bit she's no better, what with the whole 'Aragorn doesn't like me so I want to go die in battle' business..or was that part more Jackson nonsense?
//I have some rereading to do.StaleCoffee: CygnusDarius: Fark Disney.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 504x370]

This is why I hate peter jackson.

Princess 1: Elf that sits around being inspiration-grade pretty.

Princess 2: Parents die at 7, learns to ride a horse and stab shiat, kills the second most badass guy in the armies of shadowevilwhatever with a surprise lolz, at the same time avenging her adoptive fathers death and only gets outshone when the guy she fell in love with but turned her down shows up with an army of ghostshis fellow rangers and the freed people from the coastal cities in pirate ships.

Arwen was not Princess 2.

Eowyn's big moment was all farked up because they couldn't just stick with the order of events from the books. And hell, other than the fact it's someone flying the banner of the king that shows up she doesn't even really get outshone, killing the witch king basically broke the back of the army, it was largely cleanup work after that.

/my memory of the books may be a bit fuzzy and muddled by the movies
//I think I'm due for a re-reading

In the parts of Tolkein that never made it into the published trilogy, there's a whole backstory about Eowyn and Eomer and why she was so distraught. Turns out the brother and sister were the children of Theoden's sister and a warrior who died young; Eowyn passionately loved her cousin, Theoden's son, who had been killed at the Battle of the Fords of Isen...so she latched onto Aragorn as the next best thing. It also explains why she turned to Faramir later--he was much closer to her cousin, personality-wise.

As for why she killed the Witch-Ki ...


Well, MOST sci-fi/fantasy writing has difficulty writing for women. In Star Trek TOS, we had Uhuru, who took messages and was basically the secretary, and bridge bunnies. It wasn't entirely by choice, though. The test pilot had Majel Barrett as Number One and commanded the crew when the Captain was away, but the networks deemed that as unlikely to be popular and canned Roddenberry's original idea.

Star Wars has TWO women in it. Your sister, and Mon Mothma, who has little to do with the plot. Although Leia IS a strong female character.

laceysfilms.files.wordpress.com
Bechdel Test notes the problem, that two women talking almost NEVER occurs in movies. Seriously. Almost none. Or, IF they do, it's solely to muse upon the riddle of how a male character can be so handsome and awesome. Sometimes it's because of the Smurfette Principle of only having one woman in the key cast, but then you have a movie like X-Men First Class with a number of "powerful" female characters, but they never speak to one another on-camera. Statistically odd, there definitely seems to be an unwritten law here that women talking together turns off an audience.
 
2012-08-27 05:34:02 PM  

StaleCoffee: Gyrfalcon: In the parts of Tolkein that never made it into the published trilogy, there's a whole backstory about Eowyn and Eomer and why she was so distraught. Turns out the brother and sister were the children of Theoden's sister and a warrior who died young; Eowyn passionately loved her cousin, Theoden's son, who had been killed at the Battle of the Fords of Isen...so she latched onto Aragorn as the next best thing. It also explains why she turned to Faramir later--he was much closer to her cousin, personality-wise.

Pretty sure that was all in Two Towers and Return of the King, and that's not why she fell for Aragorn, and Faramir went after her. I admit I haven't read it in years but the only other book I read by Tolkien besides the Hobbit was Silmarillion, and I'm fairly certain it isn't in that.


Some of it is in the Appendix; there's more in Unfinished Tales. I think that's where the whole story of Eowyn being in love with Theodred was given.

Anyhoo, the point was that NONE of that showed up in the movie; all her story got shoved aside with the idea she was just there to be a secondary love-interest.
 
2012-08-27 05:34:44 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Had better female characters than Tolkien.
 
2012-08-27 05:35:43 PM  

meow said the dog: Listen I am the individual upon which can see two sides of each issue and I will say to you this very much if you think about this Jasmine was the biatch and we can probably all have agreement that Snow White was the glutton. Also what was funny was the movie adaptation of this Snow White movie where Snow White was the investigator who was solving the murder and there was the person who was killed by the sleeping pills and the shy person was killed by being forced to attend the party and one was killed by being forced to do the inhalation of sneezing powder. And at the end of this movie what has happened is the woman who is Agent Snow White goes to the dock to find the head of the husband of she under this. Maybe I am having confusion upon two movies however.

Okay let us also think of the movie the Lady and the Tramp. Lady was certainly the biatch. I mean really she was this as she is the dog which is female LAUGHTER OL. But also she did the leading on of the Tramp so two strikes and she is out.

So yes it does appear of which the stereotypes are present. Perhaps Disney would do much better to work with someone who has known to do the gap bridging of different groups without the stereotypes. Prepare for the next movie of the Walt Disney Company:

Tyler Perry's Old Mutha Hubbard


This.
 
2012-08-27 05:35:51 PM  
As a youth counselor, I dealt with a kid just like that. Her mom was a middle-school, high-school, and college cheerleader, then a cheerleader instructor in college. Her kid was thoroughly convinced that if she just looked pretty enough, and could cheerlead, she would attract a guy who would give her money and gifts, and she would never have to worry about anything ever again. I informed her that she would not be pretty forever, and the guy was never a guarantee, so it might be wise to learn some lucrative skills she could practice on her own. She sort of snorted and dismissed me, and she was in fourth grade. I'd love to see her life when she's 40.
 
mjg
2012-08-27 05:36:57 PM  
jirkavinse.files.wordpress.com

I'm OK with this.
 
2012-08-27 05:37:46 PM  

Oznog: [t0.gstatic.com image 280x180][www.northarc.com image 850x536][swordofelysium.files.wordpress.com image 768x576][www.weirdasianews.com image 640x480]

Go to Studio Ghibli for better-written female characters. Who do NOT set out as "marrying a prince" as their ultimate goal in life. "Getting the boy" is never the point of the plot.

Nor do they fit the mold for an Action Girl, although they do contain elements of it at times.

Action Girl is like Laura Croft, where they're just taking an action hero role and adapting it to a female character, and assuming that's somehow feminist. Often we get a Faux Action Girl who we're TOLD is "badass" through dialogue and other characters' reactions, but never actually kills anyone or does anything especially hardcore or morally questionable. Your standard fantasy female "warrior".

Reason #3 of #1000 why Ghibli is SO much better farking overrated than Disney.


Fixed.
 
2012-08-27 05:38:37 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: FirstNationalBastard: Abe Vigoda's Ghost:
A relationship with Tink would be problematic.

I imagine it would be like the scene from UHF where the kid gets to drink from the firehose.

I can't stop laughing.... wtf was that??


A scene from Weird Al Yankovic's 1989 film, UHF. It's about Al running a UHF station, and had a surprisingly famous cast (or, a cast that went on to be famous)... Michael Richards, Fran Drescher, Kevin McCarthy, Victoria Jackson, and of course, Weird Al.
 
2012-08-27 05:38:45 PM  

WhippingBoy: The next Disney Princess is going to be an outraged, 300 pound lesbian named Glorioa (voiced by Rosie O'Donnell).


Crap man, you expect Rosie to lose weight just to star in a Disney picture? Un-farking-likely
 
2012-08-27 05:39:38 PM  

Oznog: Bechdel Test notes the problem, that two women talking almost NEVER occurs in movies. Seriously. Almost none.


This is a common misconception. In fact, more than half of mainstream movies pass the Bechdel Test

The perception that most movies don't is basically a trick of memory.
 
2012-08-27 05:42:22 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: crzybtch: Well I for one would appreciate more realistic kids movies where the characters look like regular people and are focused on for their intelligence, wit and abilities.
I grew up on all that Disney princess crap and felt completely inferior as a tomgirl stuck in a boyish body with buck teeth and bad skin. I could get caught up in the dream of finding Mr. Wonderful one day only to have reality set in and realize that was for the petite pretty girls, not for a homely kid like me. Imagination and fantasy is fine but making kids feel like they will never measure up is just not cool. I would have been so much better off with movies where every girl didn't look beyond perfect and whose happy ending didn't always include Mr. Wonderful coming to "rescue" her. I also think boys deserve the same.

Disney tried....


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Tink


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The chick on the left


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Eilonwy

So.. out of three tomboys who can kick ass in their own right, only one is human :\ :( They got better in the 90s with making female characters who could stand up for themselves and weren't just waiting for Mr. Right.


Some would argue that there is no such thing as a strictly-human Daughter of Llyr.

/And I would agree.
//Also, her hair was the wrong color.
 
2012-08-27 05:42:30 PM  
But...it's Disney!

Oznog: Reason #3 of #1000 why Ghibli is SO much better than Disney.


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2012-08-27 05:43:08 PM  
If the cartoons you watched as a child determine how you live your life, you need help. My wife loved princess movies as a little kid. Owned all of them, had her room decorated with pictures of the girls in them, themed birthday parties, the whole nine yards. Right now she's an officer in the Army who has served two combat tours, with a CAB and jump wings tacked on. The only thing that you could really call "girly" about her is a love of the color purple, and the fact that she likes having long hair. My cousin grew up watching GI Joe, John Wayne movies, and playing varsity baseball and football. He grew up to be a gay investment banker married to a poet. Of course, he's also a right wing Republican on everything but gay rights.
 
2012-08-27 05:43:37 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: ExperianScaresCthulhu: pedalphile: Pickled Pepper reminded me of another Disney 'princess' whose parents were still alive:

[profile.ak.fbcdn.net image 180x129]

I hope the movie version of 'Peter and the Starcatchers' doesn't fark up the story line. First Peter plays the mother, then the daughter, and all the while has Tink on the side. There are perks to never growing up.

That's what bothers me. He had Tink. Why would he need anyone else? Yeah, I get it, he wants a Mom, someone to lead him and cuddle him and tell him it's going to be alright when he gets sick of being a Leader of Boys doing the leading and cuddling and telling his crew it's going to be alright, himself. Tink is so hardcore, though. She's his equal and more than his equal. But he can never fall in love with an equal. He can only fall in love with someone who.. what?

[i45.tinypic.com image 600x670]

A relationship with Tink would be problematic.


cdn.static.ovimg.com
Fairies always find a way.

Link
 
2012-08-27 05:45:47 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: FirstNationalBastard: Abe Vigoda's Ghost:
A relationship with Tink would be problematic.

I imagine it would be like the scene from UHF where the kid gets to drink from the firehose.

I can't stop laughing.... wtf was that??


WTF?

Seriously. Netflix. NOW! Sign up for a free account, if you don't already have one, and stream it. Best 100 minutes you will spend for the next week, I promise.

My six year old runs around the house saying, "Today...we're gonna teach poodles how to fly!!"
 
2012-08-27 05:45:59 PM  
Imagine that 100+yr old stories don't meat up to 21st century standards.
 
2012-08-27 05:46:23 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: FirstNationalBastard: Abe Vigoda's Ghost:
A relationship with Tink would be problematic.

I imagine it would be like the scene from UHF where the kid gets to drink from the firehose.

I can't stop laughing.... wtf was that??


Put on UHF, roast one, and safely remove abs workout from your routine that week.
 
2012-08-27 05:48:17 PM  

Magnanimous_J: ExperianScaresCthulhu: FirstNationalBastard: Abe Vigoda's Ghost:
A relationship with Tink would be problematic.

I imagine it would be like the scene from UHF where the kid gets to drink from the firehose.

I can't stop laughing.... wtf was that??

Put on UHF, roast one, and safely remove abs workout from your routine that week.


And if you buy the DVD, UHF has one of the best commentaries ever.
 
2012-08-27 05:49:51 PM  

mjg: I'm OK with this.


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2012-08-27 05:50:41 PM  

Skyrmion: Oznog: Bechdel Test notes the problem, that two women talking almost NEVER occurs in movies. Seriously. Almost none.

This is a common misconception. In fact, more than half of mainstream movies pass the Bechdel Test. 

The perception that most movies don't is basically a trick of memory.


That site stretched quite a bit. For example, they rated X-Men First Class as "passing", because of these fleeting exclamations:
"What are you guys doing" CIA female to the team.
"You Can Fly?" Mystique to Angel
"Angel No" Mystique to Angel

That's IT. Which are NOT a "conversation". Many REALLY had to stretch to say there was a single conversation this way. Nobody wants to go through every script, but it appears like 98% of movie dialogue is always man-man or man-woman. You can point out many chick flicks have a preponderance of female-female conversation, but that's chick flicks. It doesn't work well in sci-fi/fantasy/action. Or in most cases romantic comedies... or, well, just about anything outside of "chick flick".

It's kind of odd. It's just a starting point for thought, though, it's pointless to say "this is proof movies are misogynistic and androcentric".
 
mjg
2012-08-27 05:51:50 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: mjg: I'm OK with this.

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Sir,
I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
 
2012-08-27 05:53:15 PM  

mjg: Sir,
I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.


Joke's on you. It's all text.
 
2012-08-27 05:55:07 PM  
I'm a youngster. So I'm gonna ask: Was this an issue in the 70's Feminist movement?
 
2012-08-27 05:57:24 PM  

Marshal805: I'm a youngster. So I'm gonna ask: Was this an issue in the 70's Feminist movement?


No, they were fighting for actual important things.
 
2012-08-27 05:59:34 PM  

Thorak: It's not really fair to call Brave a Disney flick. It's Pixar. Pixar has the stones to tell Disney to piss off and GTFO their writing, and the industry clout to just up and walk if Disney doesn't listen. Heck, they did that, and were wildly succesful on their own.

Tangled was a marginal step forward (Princess' mother still alive), but it still suffers a TON from "princess needs a man to accomplish anything". And he's no better; the one saving grace is that he's not attractive AND good-hearted AND wealthy, just two of the three. A marginal step up from Aladdin who was the same two, but faked the third to try and get the girl.


Seriously, don't point at Brave and say "Disney's getting better!" That was all Pixar. Pixar's never had that issue.


You didn't pay very good attention to Tangled. Rapunzel knocked Flynn Rider out and saved his ass (the bar, the dam & cave). He only saved her by cutting her hair and in the end it was her tears that resurrected him.

Rapunzel is very modern. Meridia's kind of spoiled & snotty.
 
2012-08-27 06:05:59 PM  

ThatGuyGreg: brigid_fitch: And the first Disney Princess whose mother is still alive.

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Nope.


Sleeping Beauty's mom was still alive.
 
2012-08-27 06:06:14 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Classic fairy tales ARE gender stereotypes, in case nobody ever noticed before.


Uh, no, they aren't.

Gyrfalcon: HalEmmerich: CygnusDarius: Fark Disney.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 504x370]

Fark Peter Jackson.

/I was going to suggest Eowyn out of Tolkien if you're looking for a female role model, but I guess outside the 'I am no man' bit she's no better, what with the whole 'Aragorn doesn't like me so I want to go die in battle' business..or was that part more Jackson nonsense?
//I have some rereading to do.StaleCoffee: CygnusDarius: Fark Disney.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 504x370]

This is why I hate peter jackson.

Princess 1: Elf that sits around being inspiration-grade pretty.

Princess 2: Parents die at 7, learns to ride a horse and stab shiat, kills the second most badass guy in the armies of shadowevilwhatever with a surprise lolz, at the same time avenging her adoptive fathers death and only gets outshone when the guy she fell in love with but turned her down shows up with an army of ghostshis fellow rangers and the freed people from the coastal cities in pirate ships.

Arwen was not Princess 2.

Eowyn's big moment was all farked up because they couldn't just stick with the order of events from the books. And hell, other than the fact it's someone flying the banner of the king that shows up she doesn't even really get outshone, killing the witch king basically broke the back of the army, it was largely cleanup work after that.

/my memory of the books may be a bit fuzzy and muddled by the movies
//I think I'm due for a re-reading

In the parts of Tolkein that never made it into the published trilogy, there's a whole backstory about Eowyn and Eomer and why she was so distraught. Turns out the brother and sister were the children of Theoden's sister and a warrior who died young; Eowyn passionately loved her cousin, Theoden's son, who had been killed at the Battle of the Fords of Isen...so she latched onto Aragorn as the next best thing. It also explains why she turned to Faramir later--he was much closer to her cousin, personality-wise.

As for why she killed the Witch-Ki ...


Galadriel? She's the only remanent of the Noldor of the first age and the keeper of the Ring of Adamant.

There are literally dozens of powerful women in the Tolkien legendarium, why focus on the LotR. Luthien, Melian, the Sun.

/it was Glofindel's prophecy about the Witch King. love glorfindel!
 
2012-08-27 06:08:28 PM  
Okay, so people need good female role models from Disney. How about a single mother and business owner who is in charge of everything that happens around her?
 
2012-08-27 06:09:37 PM  
Classic Fairy Tales
 
2012-08-27 06:09:40 PM  

degenerate-afro: Okay, so people need good female role models from Disney. How about a single mother and business owner who is in charge of everything that happens around her?


Yay for dropping images, let's try again.

images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-08-27 06:11:09 PM  
Oh yeah, I almost forgot. Regarding the article:

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