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2012-08-27 03:59:53 PM  

Nightsweat: Yes.


Disney Princesses: responsible for farking with the minds and lives of whomsoever shall fall for a suburbanite white chick and isn't a Psychic ATM.
 
2012-08-27 04:00:07 PM  

SphericalTime: They've been mostly gender stereotypes (and I'm kind of surprised that the author of article is just realizing that). Disney found a formula and bought into it wholeheartedly: take a classic fairy tale and make the central focus a love story (if it wasn't already). And, with that formula, the princesses were mostly objects to be rescued.

However, some of their recent princesses are great symbols. Merida from Brave is an awesome example, her storyline was basically, "You don't need a man to do awesome stuff and control your own destiny. " I loved the fact that she didn't even have a love interest.


Actually, Merida *does* have a love interest, as seen in the very last scene of the movie. It was subtle, but it was there.
 
2012-08-27 04:00:14 PM  

fireclown: RsquaredW: Better than the guys version.

1) be rich and good looking
2) be rich and good looking
3) be rich and good looking cursed to be ugly until good looking again
4) be rich and good looking
5) pretend to be rich and good looking
6) be rich and good looking

Quick, name the movies!

Well, you have to admit that with the exception of #3, those are all pretty good bits of advice.


#5 is cheaper.
 
2012-08-27 04:01:08 PM  

PeterPipersPickledPecker: [blog.pigtailpals.com image 300x318]
First princess that was worth a damn


Ok, this.
 
2012-08-27 04:03:21 PM  
I would so fark the ever living shiat out of Jasmine. But then I realize her real life counterpart would be wearing a burka and plotting to bomb my testicles off.

Kinda takes the fun out it.
 
2012-08-27 04:03:47 PM  
So the take-home message is that single-parent families are both disastrously painful for little girls, and also magical catalysts to enchanted lives.
 
2012-08-27 04:03:51 PM  

Masterstuff: I said that I would only watch Disney movies if it had an original story... looks like i'll have to find this in one of the theaters that show old movies around here.


During my quick check through the Disney princess wiki and Wikipedia. Inasmuch as there is no other source listed for the character. Having seen the movie, I don't know that there is any one fairy tale or myth that it draws from more than others.
 
2012-08-27 04:04:23 PM  

brigid_fitch: SphericalTime: However, some of their recent princesses are great symbols. Merida from Brave is an awesome example, her storyline was basically, "You don't need a man to do awesome stuff and control your own destiny. " I loved the fact that she didn't even have a love interest.

And the first Disney Princess whose mother is still alive.

But, yeah, Brave was definitely a departure from the Disney formula and more relatable to a LOT of kids. "See, Mom's really just looking out for you and does love you. Please don't turn her into a bear."


www.fromscreentotheme.com

*eyebrow*
 
2012-08-27 04:04:54 PM  

glass_ibis: brigid_fitch: ThatGuyGreg: brigid_fitch: And the first Disney Princess whose mother is still alive.

[disney-blog.com image 550x302]

Nope.

Which Disney movie is that? I must have missed one.

Tangled


Tiana from "Princess and the Frog" and Mulan both have their mothers still, too, if not already mentioned.
 
2012-08-27 04:04:57 PM  

PsychoLaurie: Actually, Merida *does* have a love interest, as seen in the very last scene of the movie. It was subtle, but it was there.


Yeah, but the entire film didn't revolve around her and Mr. Love Interest. If anything, it was more a subversion of the movie about the princess finding the right love interest. She was finding herself and her place in the world, not a man... having found that, at the end she feels more comfortable with entertaining suitors.
 
2012-08-27 04:06:00 PM  

glass_ibis: brigid_fitch: ThatGuyGreg: brigid_fitch: And the first Disney Princess whose mother is still alive.

[disney-blog.com image 550x302]

Nope.

Which Disney movie is that? I must have missed one.

Tangled


This text is now purple: brigid_fitch: And the first Disney Princess whose mother is still alive.

Aurora's mother never dies.


I stand corrected. Sleeping Beauty's mother & Rapunzel's mother are still alive.

/Saw Sleeping Beauty at the drive-in when I was 6. The only thing I remember is that the dragon scared me
//Never saw Tangled--had to look it up on Wiki.
 
2012-08-27 04:06:55 PM  
They should rename Beauty and the Beast "Disney presents: Stockholm Syndrome"
 
2012-08-27 04:07:04 PM  

texdent: What princesses look like
[trend911.com image 300x300]
[www.blogcdn.com image 250x315]

What an evil queen looks like
[blog.zap2it.com image 530x350]


YAY.

SOmeday my show will come....

and that day is September 3oth.

/WOOT
 
2012-08-27 04:07:37 PM  

brigid_fitch: ThatGuyGreg: brigid_fitch: And the first Disney Princess whose mother is still alive.

[disney-blog.com image 550x302]

Nope.

Which Disney movie is that? I must have missed one.


Tangled. It's super cute, and the paper lantern sequence is gorgeous.
 
2012-08-27 04:08:38 PM  

vudukungfu: Nightsweat: Yes.

Disney Princesses: responsible for farking with the minds and lives of whomsoever shall fall for a suburbanite white chick and isn't a Psychic ATM.


You never go Psychic A2M.
 
2012-08-27 04:08:43 PM  
Disney Princesses: Classic Fairy Tales Or Gender Sterotypes and stuff little girls really like
 
2012-08-27 04:09:12 PM  

glass_ibis: brigid_fitch: ThatGuyGreg: brigid_fitch: And the first Disney Princess whose mother is still alive.

[disney-blog.com image 550x302]

Nope.

Which Disney movie is that? I must have missed one.

Tangled


Rapunzel is her name.

The show is pretty good too.

And by pretty good I mean "you can watch it with your daughter and not want to pull your hair out".
 
2012-08-27 04:09:26 PM  
Well I for one would appreciate more realistic kids movies where the characters look like regular people and are focused on for their intelligence, wit and abilities.
I grew up on all that Disney princess crap and felt completely inferior as a tomgirl stuck in a boyish body with buck teeth and bad skin. I could get caught up in the dream of finding Mr. Wonderful one day only to have reality set in and realize that was for the petite pretty girls, not for a homely kid like me. Imagination and fantasy is fine but making kids feel like they will never measure up is just not cool. I would have been so much better off with movies where every girl didn't look beyond perfect and whose happy ending didn't always include Mr. Wonderful coming to "rescue" her. I also think boys deserve the same.
 
2012-08-27 04:09:46 PM  

Cymbal: I would so fark the ever living shiat out of Jasmine. But then I realize her real life counterpart would be wearing a burka and plotting to bomb my testicles off.

Kinda takes the fun out it.


freyssinet.f.r.pic.centerblog.net

Only SFW one I could find in a GIS for "sexy burqa"
 
2012-08-27 04:09:57 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Then there is the one where 7 guys live with one woman.

But what a woman!


Much like the prince I fell in love with her when she was a corpse.
 
2012-08-27 04:10:40 PM  
The next Disney Princess is going to be an outraged, 300 pound lesbian named Glorioa (voiced by Rosie O'Donnell).

She will be fighting against the oppressive Hegemonic Patriarchy with the help of her magical friends:
- Kitsune, an outraged, trans-gendered POC who's into serious kink
- Mary-Ann, an outraged, bi-sexual (lesbian leaning) woman who constantly and deliberately puts her self into dangerous situations. Her wacky catchphrase is "stop blaming the victim"
- Loosey-Goosie, the outraged Slut Without Shame
- Jean Sixpack, a young, outraged character with no real convictions or mind of her own but who follows whatever the outraged Queen of Gender Studies tells her to believe without question

The movie will culminate with Gloria magically transforming into a trans-gendered man...

They're still working on a title, but it's scheduled for release in Christmas of 2013.
 
2012-08-27 04:10:44 PM  
Classic fairy tales ARE gender stereotypes, in case nobody ever noticed before.
 
2012-08-27 04:10:49 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: brigid_fitch: ThatGuyGreg: brigid_fitch: And the first Disney Princess whose mother is still alive.

[disney-blog.com image 550x302]

Nope.

Which Disney movie is that? I must have missed one.

Tangled. It's super cute, and the paper lantern sequence is gorgeous.


What they don't show you are the thousands of acres of woodland burned to the ground because of their festival.

I keed. Yea, it's a pretty fun movie. The whole damn thing looks great.
 
2012-08-27 04:10:55 PM  

texdent: What princesses look like
[trend911.com image 300x300]
[www.blogcdn.com image 250x315]

What an evil queen looks like
[blog.zap2it.com image 530x350]

 

Mmmm. More like this really
upload.wikimedia.org

news.bbc.co.uk
 
2012-08-27 04:11:14 PM  
Belle was independent, smart, and liked to read books.

The other listed princesses in that article sucked.
 
2012-08-27 04:12:17 PM  
Why must we continue to search for the deeper, ruinous meaning in everything? Can't we just relax, unplug, and continue viewing them as sex objects like decent people?

I mean, *really!*
 
2012-08-27 04:13:19 PM  

jst3p: Masterstuff: So Brave was an Original idea? As in wasn't directly related to some fairy tale?

I said that I would only watch Disney movies if it had an original story... looks like i'll have to find this in one of the theaters that show old movies around here.

Isn't Toy Story original? I hope so because those are pretty cool movies.


As far as I know, yeah. I've seen 1 and 2 but not 3 yet.
 
2012-08-27 04:15:43 PM  

RsquaredW: Better than the guys version.

1) be rich and good looking
2) be rich and good looking
3) be rich and good looking cursed to be ugly until good looking again
4) be rich and good looking
5) pretend to be rich and good looking
6) be rich and good looking

Quick, name the movies!


So, pretty much like reality then?
 
2012-08-27 04:15:52 PM  

CygnusDarius: Fark Disney.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 504x370]


This is why I hate peter jackson.

Princess 1: Elf that sits around being inspiration-grade pretty.

Princess 2: Parents die at 7, learns to ride a horse and stab shiat, kills the second most badass guy in the armies of shadowevilwhatever with a surprise lolz, at the same time avenging her adoptive fathers death and only gets outshone when the guy she fell in love with but turned her down shows up with an army of ghosts in pirate ships.

Arwen was not Princess 2.
 
2012-08-27 04:17:17 PM  

WhippingBoy: The next Disney Princess is going to be an outraged, 300 pound lesbian named Glorioa (voiced by Rosie O'Donnell).

She will be fighting against the oppressive Hegemonic Patriarchy with the help of her magical friends:
- Kitsune, an outraged, trans-gendered POC who's into serious kink
- Mary-Ann, an outraged, bi-sexual (lesbian leaning) woman who constantly and deliberately puts her self into dangerous situations. Her wacky catchphrase is "stop blaming the victim"
- Loosey-Goosie, the outraged Slut Without Shame
- Jean Sixpack, a young, outraged character with no real convictions or mind of her own but who follows whatever the outraged Queen of Gender Studies tells her to believe without question

The movie will culminate with Gloria magically transforming into a trans-gendered man...

They're still working on a title, but it's scheduled for release in Christmas of 2013.


Is it wrong that I laughed really hard at this. I could see this being a spoof coming out on the internet with a Rosie O'Donnell sound alike.
 
2012-08-27 04:19:17 PM  

AgentKGB: Cymbal: I would so fark the ever living shiat out of Jasmine. But then I realize her real life counterpart would be wearing a burka and plotting to bomb my testicles off.

Kinda takes the fun out it.

[freyssinet.f.r.pic.centerblog.net image 350x409]

Only SFW one I could find in a GIS for "sexy burqa"


Oh yeah baby, show me them sexy ankles and knees! You know what I like!
 
2012-08-27 04:19:19 PM  
Brave was excellent. Highly recommended.
 
2012-08-27 04:19:27 PM  

25.media.tumblr.com

 
2012-08-27 04:19:46 PM  

Drubell: Belle was independent, smart, and liked to read books.

The other listed princesses in that article sucked.


Belle was an incredible role model for the exact reasons you said.
 
2012-08-27 04:20:04 PM  

Masterstuff: So Brave was an Original idea? As in wasn't directly related to some fairy tale?


No, it's based on Queen Boadicea of ancient Britain. When she grows up she'll be flogged and raped and her daughters raped and eaten by Romans. Don't worry. Nothing good can come of her treacherous feminist ways.
 
2012-08-27 04:20:53 PM  

RsquaredW: Better than the guys version.

1) be rich and good looking
2) be rich and good looking
3) be rich and good looking cursed to be ugly until good looking again
4) be rich and good looking
5) pretend to be rich and good looking
6) be rich and good looking

Quick, name the movies!


1. Sleeping Beauty
2. Cinderella
3. Beauty and the Beast
4. Little Mermaid
5. Aladdin
6. Mulan?

I guess Li Shang was probably a richer than John Smith or Naveen.
 
2012-08-27 04:21:56 PM  

StaleCoffee: CygnusDarius: Fark Disney.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 504x370]

This is why I hate peter jackson.

Princess 1: Elf that sits around being inspiration-grade pretty.

Princess 2: Parents die at 7, learns to ride a horse and stab shiat, kills the second most badass guy in the armies of shadowevilwhatever with a surprise lolz, at the same time avenging her adoptive fathers death and only gets outshone when the guy she fell in love with but turned her down shows up with an army of ghosts in pirate ships.

Arwen was not Princess 2.


Nevermind that Princess 1 barely figured in LoTR except as someone Aragorn wanted to marry; and Princess 2 not only wasn't a princess, she was actively suicidal and wanted to die in battle because she had so little in her life.

Movies that try to throw girls in to the mix when they weren't there to start with usually fail miserably, at least on the gender-equality level.
 
2012-08-27 04:22:06 PM  

StaleCoffee: CygnusDarius: Fark Disney.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 504x370]

This is why I hate peter jackson.

Princess 1: Elf that sits around being inspiration-grade pretty.

Princess 2: Parents die at 7, learns to ride a horse and stab shiat, kills the second most badass guy in the armies of shadowevilwhatever with a surprise lolz, at the same time avenging her adoptive fathers death and only gets outshone when the guy she fell in love with but turned her down shows up with an army of ghosts in pirate ships.

Arwen was not Princess 2.


To be fair, Princess 1 had DSLs, so I think they match up pretty evenly.
 
2012-08-27 04:22:08 PM  
StaleCoffee
This is why I hate peter jackson.
Princess 1: Elf that sits around being inspiration-grade pretty.


Well, he made her look pretty bad-ass in the first movie.
 
2012-08-27 04:23:00 PM  
I've often wondered... instead of complaining about what Disney does, why don't people make their own movies? That way, they can make the heroes/heroines whatever way they want them to be.
 
2012-08-27 04:23:55 PM  

AngryJailhouseFistfark: Masterstuff: So Brave was an Original idea? As in wasn't directly related to some fairy tale?

No, it's based on Queen Boadicea of ancient Britain. When she grows up she'll be flogged and raped and her daughters raped and eaten by Romans. Don't worry. Nothing good can come of her treacherous feminist ways.


I can't wait for the sequel.
 
2012-08-27 04:25:36 PM  

RsquaredW: Better than the guys version.

1) be rich and good looking - Cinderella
2) be rich and good looking - Snow White
3) be rich and good looking cursed to be ugly until good looking again - Beauty and the Beast
4) be rich and good looking - Bambi
5) pretend to be rich and good looking - Up the Butt Sluts 14
6) be rich and good looking - Gigli

Quick, name the movies!


How'd I do?
 
2012-08-27 04:26:00 PM  
t2.gstatic.com


"Yes suh Little Massa an Missy, I done had 'em all. Snow White? We called her Ho White... that was one freaky, gang banging white girl., Sleepin' Beauty... that girl was mo like Sleepin' Booty... that girl wasn't sleepin' she was just frigid, stuck up white girl.. That mermaid girl had a funny smell but once she got some legs she sho' nuff knew how to spread 'em. An Pocahontas, well I sho nuff showed her 'How'."
 
2012-08-27 04:26:25 PM  
So we should deprive children the movies they may love and have no desire to know about hidden meanings that they really don't understand?
 
2012-08-27 04:26:35 PM  
I've been seeing that picture floating around the Net for years. But yeah, to some degree, the Disney Princesses are about gender stereotypes. Considering the source material, this should come as no surprise.

What is surprising is how much those stereotypes are softened as compared to the original tales. The original Little Mermaid, for example, is rewarded not with her man, but with a lifetime of serving others through which she might be able to forge a soul for herself. In comparison with stuff like that, Disney seems downright progressive.
 
2012-08-27 04:26:39 PM  

Masterstuff: AngryJailhouseFistfark: Masterstuff: So Brave was an Original idea? As in wasn't directly related to some fairy tale?

No, it's based on Queen Boadicea of ancient Britain. When she grows up she'll be flogged and raped and her daughters raped and eaten by Romans. Don't worry. Nothing good can come of her treacherous feminist ways.

I can't wait for the sequel.


Starring Jar Jar Binks as Merida.
 
2012-08-27 04:26:48 PM  

StaleCoffee: Princess 2: Parents die at 7, learns to ride a horse and stab shiat, kills the second most badass guy in the armies of shadowevilwhatever with a surprise lolz, at the same time avenging her adoptive fathers death and only gets outshone when the guy she fell in love with but turned her down shows up with an army of ghosts in pirate ships.


And she looked pretty badass in the Rankin & Bass version.
 
2012-08-27 04:27:19 PM  

StaleCoffee: CygnusDarius: Fark Disney.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 504x370]

This is why I hate peter jackson.

Princess 1: Elf that sits around being inspiration-grade pretty.

Princess 2: Parents die at 7, learns to ride a horse and stab shiat, kills the second most badass guy in the armies of shadowevilwhatever with a surprise lolz, at the same time avenging her adoptive fathers death and only gets outshone when the guy she fell in love with but turned her down shows up with an army of ghosts in pirate ships.

Arwen was not Princess 2.


You're forgetting the scene pictured, where she draws off the enemy by herself to save the others.
 
2012-08-27 04:27:33 PM  

WhippingBoy: I've often wondered... instead of complaining about what Disney does, why don't people make their own movies? That way, they can make the heroes/heroines whatever way they want them to be.


Because it would be half-assed and under-funded shiat that we'd all lose money on to the point of bankruptcy.

Then we'd turn to making reality porn.
 
2012-08-27 04:28:17 PM  
Disney Princesses: Classic Fairy Tales Or Gender Stereotypes?

Um... both?

Is this a trick question? I was told there would be no math.
 
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