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(The New Yorker)   The Koch brothers' daddy worked for Joseph Stalin and thought welfare was a plot to start a race war. Then it gets weird   (newyorker.com) divider line 82
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2012-08-27 12:44:24 PM
A spoiled crazy rich guy raised crazy spoiled rich children.... I'm shocked!
 
2012-08-27 12:45:48 PM
In fairness, when Stalin told you to believe something, you believed it. It was easier than 10 years in Siberia.
 
2012-08-27 12:48:07 PM
August 30, 2010
 
2012-08-27 12:48:39 PM

FarkedOver: A spoiled crazy rich guy raised crazy spoiled rich children.... I'm shocked!


Exactly. It's like the Bush dynasty, only with more Stalin and less Hitler.
 
2012-08-27 12:50:01 PM
Gutless, born rich scumbags.
 
2012-08-27 12:50:05 PM
Stalin's a hero, the only one in this town who can ski the K-12.
 
2012-08-27 12:50:11 PM
I don't disagree with the article. Just post something more recent. Besides, it's probably already been greenlit.
 
2012-08-27 12:53:18 PM
Fred Koch was also a founding member of the John Birch Society. As we all know, that is a reputable organization.
 
2012-08-27 12:53:54 PM
Schindler and I are like peas in a pod! We're both factory owners, we both made shells for the Nazis, but mine worked, damn it!
 
2012-08-27 12:54:22 PM

FarkedOver: Fred Koch was also a founding member of the John Birch Society. As we all know, that is a reputable organization.


It didn't used to be quite as disreputable as it is now. Of course, that's in the same way a rotten egg was slightly less rotten yesterday.
 
2012-08-27 12:54:22 PM
Hmm, yeah, I didn't see anything I didn't know on the first 2 pages. Some of it may be out of date. Sheldon Attleson may be the big dog now.
 
2012-08-27 12:54:58 PM
"In a self-published broadside, Koch claimed that "the Communists have infiltrated both the Democrat and Republican Parties." He wrote admiringly of Benito Mussolini's suppression of Communists in Italy, and disparagingly of the American civil-rights movement. "The colored man looms large in the Communist plan to take over America," he warned. Welfare was a secret plot to attract rural blacks to cities, where they would foment "a vicious race war." In a 1963 speech that prefigures the Tea Party's talk of a secret socialist plot, Koch predicted that Communists would "infiltrate the highest offices of government in the U.S. until the President is a Communist, unknown to the rest of us."


Dude was a prophet.
 
2012-08-27 12:55:12 PM
It was their dad. Who cares?
 
2012-08-27 12:55:55 PM

Gyrfalcon: FarkedOver: Fred Koch was also a founding member of the John Birch Society. As we all know, that is a reputable organization.

It didn't used to be quite as disreputable as it is now. Of course, that's in the same way a rotten egg was slightly less rotten yesterday.


The pretty much derped it up from the get go..... They said the Civil Rights Movement was a communist plot. It's always been an ultra right shiat organization.
 
2012-08-27 12:56:36 PM

FarkedOver: Fred Koch was also a founding member of the John Birch Society. As we all know, that is a reputable organizationthe Republican party of 2012.

 
2012-08-27 12:59:58 PM
I laugh openly at anyone who's afraid of Communism in this day and age.

Seriously. Those people are just so easy to mock.
 
2012-08-27 01:00:58 PM
"The Koch brothers' daddy worked for Joseph Stalin"- there's actually people that didn't know this? I mean, other than those that suck tea flavored elephant dick.
 
2012-08-27 01:01:27 PM

Alphax: Hmm, yeah, I didn't see anything I didn't know on the first 2 pages. Some of it may be out of date. Sheldon Attleson may be the big dog now.



What kind of a world is it where Sheldon Adelson and his Zionist Minions are conspiring with the Koch Brothers, the Mormons, the KKK, the Israelis, Pat Robertson, and the ghosts of Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler and Beniito Mussolini to get one Oreo tossed from the White House?

WHAT KIND OF WORLD???
 
2012-08-27 01:01:47 PM

Vodka Zombie: I laugh openly at anyone who's afraid of Communism in this day and age.

Seriously. Those people are just so easy to mock.


Don't be so sure, socialism is making a comeback. An organization I work with just opened a branch in Mobile Alabama. Truth be told we were shocked that happened.
 
2012-08-27 01:02:19 PM

Mart Laar's beard shaver: It was their dad. Who cares?


Bill Ayers?
 
2012-08-27 01:02:34 PM

RevBigfoot: "The Koch brothers' daddy worked for Joseph Stalin"- there's actually people that didn't know this? I mean, other than those that suck tea flavored elephant dick.



So, is that like worse or better than working for / with Hitler?
 
2012-08-27 01:06:37 PM

Amos Quito: RevBigfoot: "The Koch brothers' daddy worked for Joseph Stalin"- there's actually people that didn't know this? I mean, other than those that suck tea flavored elephant dick.


So, is that like worse or better than working for / with Hitler?


In Koch, Sr.'s defense, the only alternative was to work with FDR, and he had the audacity to create job programs and social safety nets for the serfs. They've been uppity ever since.
 
2012-08-27 01:07:05 PM

Amos Quito: Alphax: Hmm, yeah, I didn't see anything I didn't know on the first 2 pages. Some of it may be out of date. Sheldon Attleson may be the big dog now.


What kind of a world is it where Sheldon Adelson and his Zionist Minions are conspiring with the Koch Brothers, the Mormons, the KKK, the Israelis, Pat Robertson, and the ghosts of Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler and Beniito Mussolini to get one Oreo tossed from the White House?

WHAT KIND OF WORLD???


This one?
 
2012-08-27 01:08:57 PM

Amos Quito: RevBigfoot: "The Koch brothers' daddy worked for Joseph Stalin"- there's actually people that didn't know this? I mean, other than those that suck tea flavored elephant dick.


So, is that like worse or better than working for / with Hitler?


One would believe, worse.
 
2012-08-27 01:10:00 PM
I don't need to read ten pages of the New Yorker for me to not like the economic leanings of a couple spoiled billionaires.

/this coming from a spoiled thousandaire
 
2012-08-27 01:10:12 PM

FarkedOver: Don't be so sure, socialism is making a comeback.


::sigh::

Socialism does NOT equal Communism.
 
2012-08-27 01:10:37 PM
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
 
2012-08-27 01:11:05 PM
They all suck a mean Koch.
 
2012-08-27 01:11:41 PM

Vodka Zombie: FarkedOver: Don't be so sure, socialism is making a comeback.

::sigh::

Socialism does NOT equal Communism.


What is it Socialists are trying to achieve?
 
2012-08-27 01:12:32 PM

Vodka Zombie: I laugh openly at anyone who's afraid of Communism in this day and age.

Seriously. Those people are just so easy to mock.


The fact people are so afraid and mad at Cuba today is hilarious. The country's a wreck and Fidel Castro is about half-dead but we still make him seem like a comicbook supervillian. I say give them a break and lift the embargo.
 
2012-08-27 01:13:23 PM
Koch suckers!
Koch suckers!
Koch Suckers, Incorporated!
 
2012-08-27 01:13:24 PM

Twilight Spark: Amos Quito: RevBigfoot: "The Koch brothers' daddy worked for Joseph Stalin"- there's actually people that didn't know this? I mean, other than those that suck tea flavored elephant dick.


So, is that like worse or better than working for / with Hitler?

One would believe, worse.



Make that two.
 
2012-08-27 01:14:25 PM

imontheinternet: Amos Quito: RevBigfoot: "The Koch brothers' daddy worked for Joseph Stalin"- there's actually people that didn't know this? I mean, other than those that suck tea flavored elephant dick.


So, is that like worse or better than working for / with Hitler?

In Koch, Sr.'s defense, the only alternative was to work with FDR, and he had the audacity to create job programs and social safety nets for the serfs. They've been uppity ever since.


So Koch was a war profiteer via Stalin?
 
2012-08-27 01:15:39 PM
So Sarah Palin is automatically the nominee and will do a pole dance on the main stage of the GOP
convention this Thursday, followed by $30 Polaroids and $50 lap dances?
 
2012-08-27 01:15:55 PM

whither_apophis: So Koch was a war profiteer via Stalin?


Not really. It was more of building infrastructure and educating a rural populous to become industrialized and modernized. He accepted commie bucks while at the same time being a libertarian anti-communist.
 
2012-08-27 01:16:38 PM
I don't know from bad fallout by throwing your lot in with Stalin; we did it in WW2. However, everybody who was conned into siding and collaborating with Hitler bit off way more than they could chew. All bets are off when you align yourself with the Nazis. As Stalin himself eventually learned.
 
2012-08-27 01:16:46 PM
But diZerega believes that the Koch brothers have followed a wayward intellectual trajectory, transferring their father's paranoia about Soviet Communism to a distrust of the U.S. government, and seeing its expansion, beginning with the New Deal, as a tyrannical threat to freedom.



Ya think?
 
2012-08-27 01:16:56 PM

Amos Quito: Twilight Spark: Amos Quito: RevBigfoot: "The Koch brothers' daddy worked for Joseph Stalin"- there's actually people that didn't know this? I mean, other than those that suck tea flavored elephant dick.


So, is that like worse or better than working for / with Hitler?

One would believe, worse.


Make that two.


Amos, I'm shocked that you'd think working with Hitler was a bad thing at all.
 
2012-08-27 01:17:01 PM

FarkedOver: Vodka Zombie: I laugh openly at anyone who's afraid of Communism in this day and age.

Seriously. Those people are just so easy to mock.

Don't be so sure, socialism is making a comeback. An organization I work with just opened a branch in Mobile Alabama. Truth be told we were shocked that happened.


Well, with the "anti-Communist" right having completely discredited themselves with their endless polishing of China's knob, the resurgence of anarchist thought and the general failures of capitalism over the last 30 years, left-wing thought is making a comeback. It's still nothing to be afraid of unless you happen to, like, actually be the Koch brothers.
 
2012-08-27 01:17:52 PM
Right-wingers sure love their Stalin.
 
2012-08-27 01:18:35 PM

theorellior: Right-wingers sure love their Stalin.


Right-wingers love tyrants in general. It's the product of a wholly authoritarian mindset.
 
2012-08-27 01:19:27 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: FarkedOver: Vodka Zombie: I laugh openly at anyone who's afraid of Communism in this day and age.

Seriously. Those people are just so easy to mock.

Don't be so sure, socialism is making a comeback. An organization I work with just opened a branch in Mobile Alabama. Truth be told we were shocked that happened.

Well, with the "anti-Communist" right having completely discredited themselves with their endless polishing of China's knob, the resurgence of anarchist thought and the general failures of capitalism over the last 30 years, left-wing thought is making a comeback. It's still nothing to be afraid of unless you happen to, like, actually be the Koch brothers.


haha true! We've had at least 5 new members join in the past 5 months, which is typically unheard of. These people are actually paying dues and stuff! It's amazing!
 
2012-08-27 01:22:44 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Amos Quito: Twilight Spark: Amos Quito: RevBigfoot: "The Koch brothers' daddy worked for Joseph Stalin"- there's actually people that didn't know this? I mean, other than those that suck tea flavored elephant dick.


So, is that like worse or better than working for / with Hitler?

One would believe, worse.


Make that two.

Amos, I'm shocked that you'd think working with Hitler was a bad thing at all.


He never said it was bad.
 
2012-08-27 01:23:01 PM

WizardofToast: Vodka Zombie: I laugh openly at anyone who's afraid of Communism in this day and age.

Seriously. Those people are just so easy to mock.

The fact people are so afraid and mad at Cuba today is hilarious. The country's a wreck and Fidel Castro is about half-dead but we still make him seem like a comicbook supervillian. I say give them a break and lift the embargo.


Yeah. But, I'm pretty sure opening Havana would inevitably make Vegas look like a Minnesota North Woods Indian gaming casino.

But, you're right. Cuba is absolutely powerless, and the people there really could use some help. And, we need friends in the Caribbean. .
 
2012-08-27 01:23:27 PM

James F. Campbell: I don't disagree with the article. Just post something more recent. Besides, it's probably already been greenlit.


If you care so much, tell an admin; there's a link at the bottom right corner of the page. Otherwise, let the rest of us take a break from Romney's tax returns, m'kay?
 
2012-08-27 01:29:12 PM

Amos Quito: What kind of a world is it where Sheldon Adelson and his Zionist Minions are conspiring with the Koch Brothers, the Mormons, the KKK, the Israelis, Pat Robertson, and the ghosts of Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler and Beniito Mussolini to get one Oreo tossed from the White House?


You forgot Catholics who have among other things taken over the Supreme Court.

Its funny. The old Republican establishment was WASP and Jews, Mormons, and Catholics were often not considered true Americans. Currently there seems to be no Republican establishment. As Charles Pierce says "There is nothing in the Republican party but invasive species.".

See his Esquire piece: At Mouth of the Rivers of Power, a New GOP Species
... For about a decade now, wild hogs have been running amok in the wilds of Florida. (This appears to be the one thing that the newly expanding Florida python problem cannot quite control.)

... a party that, at this point, is something like the Everglades. From a distance, it looks as timeless and unchanging as it ever has. Go deep into the weeds, though, and there are creatures in the muck that never belonged there. The invasive species are the ecosystem now, and, eventually, they will take to devouring each other.
 
2012-08-27 01:30:24 PM

James F. Campbell: August 30, 2010


RIPPED FROM TODAY'S HEADLINES!
 
2012-08-27 01:31:53 PM
He and his brother Charles are lifelong libertarians and have quietly given more than a hundred million dollars to right-wing causes.

One of these things is not like the other.
 
2012-08-27 01:32:16 PM

FarkedOver: Vodka Zombie: FarkedOver: Don't be so sure, socialism is making a comeback.

::sigh::

Socialism does NOT equal Communism.

What is it Socialists are trying to achieve?


A functional society, unlike the one which was present during the first great depression.
 
2012-08-27 01:34:55 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Amos Quito: Twilight Spark: Amos Quito: RevBigfoot: "The Koch brothers' daddy worked for Joseph Stalin"- there's actually people that didn't know this? I mean, other than those that suck tea flavored elephant dick.


So, is that like worse or better than working for / with Hitler?

One would believe, worse.


Make that two.

Amos, I'm shocked that you'd think working with Hitler was a bad thing at all.



Do you know who ELSE worked with Hitler?
 
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