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(WorldNetDaily)   "Six reasons Gog is the anti-Christ." Is Gog that creepy guy down at the gas station with the craggly beard and missing teeth? Because if so, I could totally see that   (wnd.com) divider line 269
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2012-08-27 10:01:06 AM
although this sounds like an amusing read, I'm not clicking on a world nut daily link...
 
2012-08-27 10:01:11 AM
Gog?
http://www.gog.com/ ????

//DNRTFA
 
2012-08-27 10:01:21 AM
There was a hole here. It's gone now.
 
2012-08-27 10:01:38 AM
I understood very little about that article. It's almost as if it was written in a different language.
 
2012-08-27 10:02:49 AM
Gog, Magog, let's call the whole thing off.
 
2012-08-27 10:03:25 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-27 10:03:32 AM
I need to do more research on the subject.

(first I'll check out the TimeCube guy and then read the label on a bottle of Dr Bronner's soap)
 
2012-08-27 10:03:40 AM
Gynecologic Oncology Group?
 
2012-08-27 10:03:50 AM
As a Christian, I have to say: "WUT?"
 
2012-08-27 10:04:56 AM
But I thought Obama was the Antichrist!

/As well as being a Jew
//And a Secret Muslim
 
2012-08-27 10:05:44 AM

Counter_Intelligent: There was a hole here. It's gone now.


LOL

/that whole game needs a college level course devoted to it
 
2012-08-27 10:05:46 AM
Don't click on WND but I'm curious. What the hell is gog?
 
2012-08-27 10:06:52 AM
FTA:"the Antichrist and his blasphemous hoards"

Is that different from a horde? I'm assuming my porn is a blashpemous hoard.
 
2012-08-27 10:07:10 AM
The only Gog that matters is the one from DC comics.
 
2012-08-27 10:07:45 AM
Girl on Girl? The hell you say!
 
2012-08-27 10:08:03 AM
Somebody copy-paste the article for our amusement.

I don't have enough spyware protection to click on a worldnutdaily link.
 
2012-08-27 10:08:19 AM

Gergesa: The only Gog that matters is the one from DC comics.


JSA doesn't get enough love.
 
2012-08-27 10:08:47 AM
He was GOG, back from '92, from the first EP?
 
2012-08-27 10:09:02 AM
At first I was thinking "Wow...someone is putting a lot of thought into over analyzing this work of fiction" (the Bible).

Then I realized I've had long debates over things like "Who would win in a fight; Captain Kirk or John Wayne?"
 
2012-08-27 10:09:26 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Don't click on WND but I'm curious. What the hell is gog?


Kind of like a pre-historic cthuthlu.
 
2012-08-27 10:09:27 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-08-27 10:09:39 AM

LS1Bird: Somebody copy-paste the article for our amusement.

I don't have enough spyware protection to click on a worldnutdaily link.


"World Nut Daily" sounds like it could be a porn site...
 
2012-08-27 10:09:58 AM
I think this means Superman beats Thor in a fight.
 
2012-08-27 10:10:27 AM

Mega Steve: But I thought Obama was the Antichrist!

/As well as being a Jew
//And a Secret Muslim


Obviously, Obama is Gog.

/G0g?
 
2012-08-27 10:10:29 AM
In my new book, "Mideast Beast: The Scriptural Case For an Islamic Antichrist," not only is this prophecy examined in careful detail, but also the massive prophetic implications of Gog as the Antichrist.

Ah, it's a guy promoting a book. Makes sense.

I can remember back when the Antichrist was supposed to have been the Soviet Union, then it was the European Union, then the UN, and yes, even Fartbongo. IMO, preachers like this guy need to stick to preaching salvation, and let God worry about who the Antichrist will end up being.
 
2012-08-27 10:10:53 AM

wrs1864: although this sounds like an amusing read, I'm not clicking on a world nut daily link...


tldr; scan - basically, the Anti-Christ is a Muslim, so we need Jesus to return to defeat them. Oh, and the Jews have to all be back in Israel, whereupon they'll all come to know Jesus.

In other words, biblical scholars have injected enough historical context into Revelations, so we have to go back a little further to explain why we need to kill all the Muslims out there, because our current version of Apocalypse doesn't make public enemy number 1.

I'm guessing the subtext is that the Antichrist is some sort of Secret Muslim too. Not sure who they're talking about there.
 
2012-08-27 10:11:01 AM
Could be worse, could be Zalgo.
 
2012-08-27 10:11:35 AM

abfalter: Then I realized I've had long debates over things like "Who would win in a fight; Captain Kirk or John Wayne?"


Depends. Phaser vs. six shooter, or hand to hand?
 
2012-08-27 10:12:27 AM
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For years, students of Bible prophecy have been taught that "Gog," spoken of in Ezekiel 38 and 39, cannot be the same as the Antichrist/Beast spoken of in the New Testament. Among the reasons set forth to argue that the two cannot be the same, none carry any weight.

In fact, any examination of the text will establish that the two are, in fact, one and the same individual. If this is the case, however, this changes everything within the world of popular biblical prophecy. If it can be shown that Gog is the Antichrist/Beast, then it is also clear that the Antichrist and his armies are from the Middle East and not Europe, as is popularly taught. But more importantly, it means that until Jesus returns, Islam is not going away. Instead of being a system of belief that is about to be "eliminated," as so many actually claim, Islam represents the single greatest challenge that the church will ever face. What then are some of the reasons to view Gog and the Antichrist/Beast as one and the same character?


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The answer lies in the specific results of the destruction of Gog and his armies as detailed within the Scriptures. When we turn to Ezekiel 38 and 39, we find that as a direct result of the destruction of Gog and his armies, the following six events take place:

God's name will never again be profaned (Ezekiel 39:7)

I will send fire on Magog and on those who live in safety in the coastlands, and they will know that I am the LORD. I will make known my holy name among my people Israel. I will no longer let my holy name be profaned, and the nations will know that I the LORD am the Holy One in Israel. It is coming! It will surely take place, declares the Sovereign LORD. This is the day I have spoken of.

- Ezekiel 39:6-8

How could it be said that from that day forward, the LORD will "no longer let [His] holy name be profaned" literally right before the Antichrist and his worldwide movement of blasphemy erupt throughout the earth? Not only would this make the LORD a liar, but also impotent. Clearly, when the LORD says that His name would no longer be profaned or blasphemed, it is speaks of the time when the Antichrist and his blasphemous hoards are silenced, at the end of his brief reign of arrogance and profanity.

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The surviving Gentile nations will come to a saving knowledge of God (Ezekiel 39:6-7)

In keeping with the LORD's many promises to someday bring the many Gentile nations of the earth fully to Himself (Isaiah 11:9, 60:14, Psalm 22:27), as a direct result of the destruction of Gog and his armies, the LORD says that, "the nations shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel" (Ezekiel 39:7). Some have attempted to diminish the significance of this statement, treating it as a shallow intellectual acknowledgment of God. But this doesn't nearly do justice to language of the passage. How can it be said that the nations come to know and acknowledge that the LORD God, the Holy One in Israel, is the one and only true God, at a time immediately before they all come together to blaspheme His name, invade His land and kill His people? This simply wouldn't make any sense. This passage only makes sense if it occurs at the end of the great tribulation, not at the beginning.

The captives of Israel will be delivered (Ezekiel 39:25-28)

After the destruction of Gog and his armies, those Jews who were previously held captive among the Gentile nations will be all delivered - every single last one. According to the text, every living Jew will return to the land of Israel. There is simply no way that this event could be placed just before the time when Jesus said many would "fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations". (Luke 21:24). Zechariah says that half of the city of Jerusalem will be "exiled" (14:2). So when God says that not a single Jewish captive will remain in exile anymore, that all will be returned from that day forward, this can only be a reference to the time when Jesus returns and delivers the Jewish captives from among the Gentile nations.

God will pour out His Spirit on Israel (Ezekiel 39:29)

Not only will the LORD deliver the Jewish captives from among the nations, but He also promises to pour out His Spirit on them. Again, this occurs immediately after the destruction of Gog and his hoards. A parallel passage is found in Isaiah, who says:

"A Redeemer will come to Zion, and to those who turn from transgression in Jacob," declares the LORD. "As for Me, this is My covenant with them," says the LORD: "My Spirit which is upon you, and My words which I have put in your mouth shall not depart from your mouth, nor from the mouth of your offspring, nor from the mouth of your offspring's offspring," says the LORD, "from now and forever."

- Isaiah 59:19-20

In very similar language, other prophets also spoke of this final outpouring of the Holy Spirit on the Jewish people in the context of the return of the Messiah (cf. Zech 12:10). Any claim that the grand outpouring of the Spirit of God on Israel precedes the coming of the Antichrist results in "prophecy chaos." The only way that this event can be reconciled with the Scriptures is if it occurs at the end of the great tribulation when the Messiah returns.

The survivors of Israel will come to know the LORD forevermore (39:22)

In accordance with the LORD pouring out His Holy Spirit on the whole house of Israel, Ezekiel also states that after the destruction of Gog and his hoards, the long awaited national salvation and redemption of all Israel will finally take place.

John the Apostle spoke of what it means to know the LORD: "And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent" (John 17:3). Any claim that the national salvation of Israel, their coming to know the LORD forevermore, "from that day forward" takes place several years before the return of the Messiah is simply not possible. The only way one can do this passage any justice and see it align with numerous other biblical passages is to see it as the grand capstone of the final seven years. According to the Scriptures, the salvation of Israel will occur when their Messiah arrives.

Israel will dwell securely in their land forevermore (Ezekiel 39:26-28)

Finally, as a direct result of the destruction of Ezekiel and his invading armies, all of Israel is fully restored to their land forevermore. As Old Testament scholar Daniel Block comments concerning this passage:

Ezekiel's declaration that not a single individual will be left behind when Yahweh restores his people is without parallel in the OT. Yahweh's restoration is not only total, however, it is permanent. He promises never again to hide his face from his people.

How anyone can place this event before the time when the Antichrist would invade Israel, trample upon Jerusalem and many of its inhabitants is simply beyond explanation. The only way that these events can be properly understood is in the context of the return of Jesus and the destruction of all of the enemies of the LORD and His people.

Because all of these descriptions can only be applied to the time of the return of Jesus and the establishment of His messianic kingdom, it is impossible that Gog and his armies are anything other than the Antichrist and his armies. In my new book, "Mideast Beast: The Scriptural Case For an Islamic Antichrist," not only is this prophecy examined in careful detail, but also the massive prophetic implications of Gog as the Antichrist. As I said, within the world of popular biblical prophecy, this absolutely changes everything. It is time to begin working through the dramatic implications.
 
2012-08-27 10:12:52 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Don't click on WND but I'm curious. What the hell is gog?


Gog is either another word for the anti-christ, or the anti-christ's powerful servant, depending on who you ask.

If you read the comments in the article, you can watch real life crazy people argue whether or not Gog is Vladimir Putin, Iran, or the entire religion of Islam.

What's really funny is how willing to kill people are based on some baseless interpretation of a infinitely translated, third hand account of an oral history! Fun!
 
2012-08-27 10:12:53 AM
because our current version of Apocalypse doesn't make Islam public enemy number 1.

Okay, I need coffee.
 
2012-08-27 10:14:16 AM
hELLS yEAH!!
i141.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-27 10:14:42 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Don't click on WND but I'm curious. What the hell is gog?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_Magog
 
2012-08-27 10:15:05 AM
When the Anti-Christ comes, I imagine him looking an awful lot like Paul Ryan. Young, charismatic, nominally religious, but spreading a false gospel of harmony and material abundance.
 
2012-08-27 10:15:16 AM

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: As a Christian, I have to say: "WUT?"


Don't believe in free will, huh?
 
2012-08-27 10:15:27 AM

Wade_Wilson: abfalter: Then I realized I've had long debates over things like "Who would win in a fight; Captain Kirk or John Wayne?"

Depends. Phaser vs. six shooter, or hand to hand?


Either scenario is a valid debate.

Phaser certainly overpowers a six-shooter ---if Kirk can draw it in time...
 
2012-08-27 10:17:48 AM
I read that whole article (well, as much as I read of it anyway) in Hank Azaria's voice from Year One.
 
2012-08-27 10:17:50 AM
Gog? He's harmless.

www.danielbowen.com
 
2012-08-27 10:19:19 AM

abfalter: Wade_Wilson: abfalter: Then I realized I've had long debates over things like "Who would win in a fight; Captain Kirk or John Wayne?"

Depends. Phaser vs. six shooter, or hand to hand?

Either scenario is a valid debate.

Phaser certainly overpowers a six-shooter ---if Kirk can draw it in time...


As for hand-to-hand, that might depend on what era of Wayne and Kirk. As they get older, I favor Kirk.
 
2012-08-27 10:20:13 AM
Great. More 'wack' from the right.

To paraphrase Jim Morrison, their brains must be squirming like toads.
 
2012-08-27 10:20:21 AM
images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-08-27 10:21:01 AM
Scott Baio is the Anti Christ.
 
2012-08-27 10:21:22 AM

Impasse: He was GOG, back from '92, from the first EP?


I wonder how many people got that Tool reference ;)
 
2012-08-27 10:22:05 AM
It's a very logical article, but starts with a few assumptions not mentioned by the author:

1. God exists
2. The bible is that god's only true and inspired text
3. Muslims only do the Safety Dance
4. Captain Crunch kicks Count Chocula's ass

Once these detail are understood, totally logical.
 
2012-08-27 10:22:13 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Don't click on WND but I'm curious. What the hell is gog?


from the wiki (so who knows)......

Genesis

...Noah has three sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth, and Magog is one of the sons (the second) of Japheth...

Book of Revelation

By the end of the 1st century, Jewish tradition had long since changed Ezekiel's Gog from Magog into Gog and Magog, the ultimate enemies of God's people, to be destroyed in the final battle...Ezkiel's Gog from Magog was a symbol of the evil darkness of the north and the powers hostile to God, but in Revelation, Gog and Magog have no geographic location, and instead represent the nations of the world, banded together for the final assault on Christ and those who follow him

Josephus

...Josephus identified the offspring of Magog as the Scythians, a name used in antiquity for peoples north of the Black Sea.According to him, the Greeks called Scythia Magogia (Ant., bk. I, 6). An alternate identification derived from a close examination of the order in which tribal names are listed in Ezekiel 38, "would place Magog between Cappadocia and Media."...

So I a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japheth" target="_blank">guess it fits, if Ham is African, Shem is Middle Eastern, and Japeth is an IndoEuropean ( "....Genesis 10:5 was often interpreted to mean that the peoples of Europe were descended from Japheth. Clearly, then, any two Englishmen must have at least this one ancestor in common, and thus any individual could claim kinship with the king...")

upload.wikimedia.org

Then the Euros (or Russians, or Indians, whatever) will cause the end of the world.


Another map: Ham's sons in Blue, Shem's sons in Green, Japeth's sons in Red



Magog's at the tippy top. Why Laud and UI decided they'd rather chill with Japeth's sons than their brothers Shem's sons, who knows.
 
2012-08-27 10:22:20 AM
Christians are a funny bunch. Constantly trying to figure out "new" interpretations of what "god" really meant. Isn't his word supposedly infallible? Unchangeable? Set in stone? Never will under how grown people can believe in such tripe.
 
2012-08-27 10:22:34 AM
No, subby.
An Antichrist is someone who leads men down the path against God through persuasion and deception.

So if it's someone who would put most people off, that's probably not him.
I'd sooner guess he's going to be a well dressed and slick talking motherfarker.
Not the kind of person you would suspect so quickly.
 
2012-08-27 10:22:48 AM
Let's try that map again

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-08-27 10:23:20 AM

abfalter: At first I was thinking "Wow...someone is putting a lot of thought into over analyzing this work of fiction" (the Bible).

Then I realized I've had long debates over things like "Who would win in a fight; Captain Kirk or John Wayne?"


John Wayne, hands down.
 
2012-08-27 10:24:32 AM
So I get to sentence number 5...

If it can be shown that Gog is the Antichrist/Beast, then it is also clear that the Antichrist and his armies are from the Middle East and not Europe, as is popularly taught.

And I'm like, "ok, there it is". And I glance over to the side to see a link for Chuck Norris giving the top 10 reasons not to reelect Obama. And for some reason it all suddenly makes sense. But then I lost it.
 
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