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2012-08-27 10:53:28 AM

Cletus C.: I am confident that Romney is moderate enough to not let social issues derp get in the way of fixing this country's economic mess.


There are probably tens of people who agree
 
2012-08-27 10:55:12 AM

Notabunny: Crist readies Democratic convention speech


Honestly I can't wait to see what Santorum says* at the keynote speech.

Because there's a spiteful f#cker who would gladly burn Romney at the price of this election. I predict a metaphorical Caesaring of Romney.**

/* "spew" is too easy of a joke and anything else might glide off the tongue but would leave a bad taste.
/** a literal Caesaring would be less funny***
/*** and so is the obvious salad tossing reference. Good Lord, Santorum is just a celebration of perversion.
 
2012-08-27 10:57:30 AM

Notabunny: Crist readies Democratic convention speech


I wonder. If Crist had thrown his support behind the Democrats after losing the Senate primary in 2010, would Rick Scott or Marco Rubio have won their elections?

If Crist had run for the Senate as a Democrat, one assumes he would have gotten at least Kendrick Meek's votes; combined with his Independent votes this would have given him 49.7% to Rubio's 48.9%.
 
2012-08-27 10:58:22 AM

Notabunny: Crist readies Democratic convention speech


Nothing like alienating a wildly popular politician in a critical swing state, Republicans
 
2012-08-27 10:59:21 AM

Notabunny: Cletus C.: I am confident that Romney is moderate enough to not let social issues derp get in the way of fixing this country's economic mess.

There are probably tens of people who agree


Romney can ignore the right wing now, cause what are they going to do, vote Obamao?

He has shown his religiously rooted anti-gay and anti-abortion personal views do not interfere in his governing. It's all about the economy and the contrived War on Women and all the rest will fall by the wayside by November.
 
2012-08-27 11:00:05 AM
Bill's Summer Fantasy:

A last-minute decision opens up the town-hall style Presidential candidates' debate to unrehearsed spontaneous questions from the audience. A very good looking young black male in a $4,000 suit stands at the microphone and asks, "Governor Romney, your party has launched many, many anti-voter fraud laws in states across America, despite there having been no cases of fraud since 1936 in some of those states. If elected President, would you also support giving children the smallpox vaccine, a much more recent threat?"

Of course, without saying much more than the word vaccine, the man is tackled by a flying leap from Charles Krauthammer.


/Also, Reince Priebus? Is that a name?
//Sounds like the model name of the 2013 Trabant four-door.
 
2012-08-27 11:04:43 AM

Cletus C.: He has shown his religiously rooted anti-gay and anti-abortion personal views do not interfere in his governing.


Because he was in a state where it was politically expedient to do so, if pandering to the religious nutters will move his agenda forward he will do that.
 
2012-08-27 11:07:46 AM
How far to the extremist right has the republican party moved?

In 1964, George Romney, then the governor of Michigan, walked out of the Republican National Convention during Barry Goldwater's acceptance speech. He was protesting his party's sharp turn rightward and its weak platform plank on civil rights.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ej-dionne-mitt-romneys-image-p r oblem/2012/08/26/654398d0-ee17-11e1-b0eb-dac6b50187ad_story.html?wp_lo gin_redirect=0
 
2012-08-27 11:10:47 AM

shastacola: How far to the extremist right has the republican party moved?

In 1964, George Romney, then the governor of Michigan, walked out of the Republican National Convention during Barry Goldwater's acceptance speech. He was protesting his party's sharp turn rightward and its weak platform plank on civil rights.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ej-dionne-mitt-romneys-image-p r oblem/2012/08/26/654398d0-ee17-11e1-b0eb-dac6b50187ad_story.html?wp_lo gin_redirect=0


I love that; it illustrates how deep and profound the rightward shift has been over the last half-century.

Barry Goldwater was too far right for 1960s Republicans.
2010 Republicans are too far right for Barry Goldwater.
 
2012-08-27 11:11:23 AM
Its the RNC2012 EtchAScketch edition!  i47.tinypic.com
 
2012-08-27 11:11:43 AM

Cletus C.: He has shown his religiously rooted anti-gay and anti-abortion personal views do not interfere in his governing.


Right... Which is why he fought the issuing of marriage licenses to homosexuals in MA tooth and nail and eventually gave up because the MA legislature had the votes to over rule him.
 
2012-08-27 11:15:54 AM
"wenty years ago this month, Republicans convened at the Astrodome, in Houston, to nominate George H. W. Bush for reëlection to the Presidency."

I like how the article writer and his editor used an umlaut rather than a hyphen. Very professional.
 
2012-08-27 11:18:56 AM

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Notabunny: Crist readies Democratic convention speech

Honestly I can't wait to see what Santorum says* at the keynote speech.

Because there's a spiteful f#cker who would gladly burn Romney at the price of this election. I predict a metaphorical Caesaring of Romney.**

/* "spew" is too easy of a joke and anything else might glide off the tongue but would leave a bad taste.
/** a literal Caesaring would be less funny***
/*** and so is the obvious salad tossing reference. Good Lord, Santorum is just a celebration of perversion.


I'm now thinking santorum with croutons and have to go throw-up now
 
2012-08-27 11:24:19 AM

mrshowrules: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Notabunny: Crist readies Democratic convention speech

Honestly I can't wait to see what Santorum says* at the keynote speech.

Because there's a spiteful f#cker who would gladly burn Romney at the price of this election. I predict a metaphorical Caesaring of Romney.**

/* "spew" is too easy of a joke and anything else might glide off the tongue but would leave a bad taste.
/** a literal Caesaring would be less funny***
/*** and so is the obvious salad tossing reference. Good Lord, Santorum is just a celebration of perversion.

I'm now thinking santorum with croutons and have to go throw-up now


Yikes.

Well, try not to think of the croutons as dead-ass compacted dried up little gerbils.
 
2012-08-27 11:26:44 AM

Bob16: I guess this is suppose to mean that there is something new in the retard republican platform which is obviously a lie.

Its been the same "we hate anybody thats not rich" platform since the 1870's.


There's been a few changes over the years.

i983.photobucket.com

I haven't looked. Is it worth adding a 2012 update?
 
2012-08-27 11:27:37 AM

Headso: Cletus C.: He has shown his religiously rooted anti-gay and anti-abortion personal views do not interfere in his governing.

Because he was in a state where it was politically expedient to do so, if pandering to the religious nutters will move his agenda forward he will do that.


Like I said, they got nowhere else to go, so pandering is not needed after wading through the hellfires of the nomination process. He lives in a country where it is politically expedient to focus on the economy.
 
2012-08-27 11:28:30 AM

Gergesa: I think the Republican party just needs to be more honest in why they are pursuing voter ID laws. The party should just come out and say "We only want WASPs voting. You others don't vote the way we like."


Reagan hated Democratic elections. He worked to overturn them all over Latin America.
 
2012-08-27 11:28:48 AM

PreMortem: PreMortem: The question needs to be asked if he would veto a no-exclusion abortion bill if it got before him.

Catch 22.

Oh and if he were forced to answer, say in a debate, he would lose the election. Guaranteed.


Good thing he probably won't ask, and he won't answer.
 
2012-08-27 11:36:13 AM

Cletus C.: Headso: Cletus C.: He has shown his religiously rooted anti-gay and anti-abortion personal views do not interfere in his governing.

Because he was in a state where it was politically expedient to do so, if pandering to the religious nutters will move his agenda forward he will do that.

Like I said, they got nowhere else to go, so pandering is not needed after wading through the hellfires of the nomination process. He lives in a country where it is politically expedient to focus on the economy.


He will need to pander to them if he gets elected, you can expect religious freak supreme court justices and signing of bigotry bills and indecency laws in exchange for lower taxes for Mitt Romney's tax bracket at the expense of the poor and middle class.
 
2012-08-27 11:41:05 AM

Headso: Cletus C.: Headso: Cletus C.: He has shown his religiously rooted anti-gay and anti-abortion personal views do not interfere in his governing.

Because he was in a state where it was politically expedient to do so, if pandering to the religious nutters will move his agenda forward he will do that.

Like I said, they got nowhere else to go, so pandering is not needed after wading through the hellfires of the nomination process. He lives in a country where it is politically expedient to focus on the economy.

He will need to pander to them if he gets elected, you can expect religious freak supreme court justices and signing of bigotry bills and indecency laws in exchange for lower taxes for Mitt Romney's tax bracket at the expense of the poor and middle class.


Also a zombie apocalypse.
 
2012-08-27 12:02:51 PM
I assumed that the platform of Mitt Romney was Windows ME...
 
2012-08-27 12:11:34 PM

Cythraul: Who knows what Mitt's 'platform' is since he's made it obvious that he'll switch whatever opinion he has in order to get elected.


Thread should have been over after this.
 
2012-08-27 12:13:21 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: The New Yorker is one of the few places that still employs real journalists and real writers.


agreed.

as a member of the recently formed 'formerly conservative, socially liberal, but completely disappointed with any and all prospects' party, I find that the new yorker has the best writing, and can present controversial, or politically charged issues with a reverence for facts, such that the existence of bias is at least supported and explained by the author's interpretation and presentation of fact. 

/ i miss my subscription... might have to renew now that I have time to read the magazine again
// i prefer the magazine, because I read on the bus where my phone is not very capable of getting the internets.
 
2012-08-27 12:17:28 PM
This is what I would attack Romney of if I was Obama.

"How does Romney plan on leading the whole country when he can't even manage or lead his own party".

Then just cite a gazillion examples of how the Party is a mess.
 
2012-08-27 12:23:55 PM

MacEnvy: Lost Thought 00: He'll be signing laws created by a Republican Congress. His specific views are irrelevant

You know, he still gets to choose whether or not to sign them.


Is that what you're running with? Rmoney is a mavericky maverick who will go against the Republican agenda and will in no way be a rubber stamp for their bills?
 
2012-08-27 12:33:37 PM

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Well, try not to think of the croutons as dead compacted dried up little ass-gerbils.


ftfy
 
2012-08-27 12:34:58 PM
This made me lol:
After the 1992 Convention, the columnist Molly Ivins wrote that Pat Buchanan's speech "probably sounded better in the original German."


...I was 7-years-old in 1992...
 
2012-08-27 12:37:19 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: The New Yorker is one of the few places that still employs real journalists and real writers.


And the editors to support them, which is how quality control happens. The New Yorker still employs fact-checkers, when Time and Newsweek did away with those jobs almost 20 years ago.
 
2012-08-27 12:41:52 PM

Muta: ... and even if Romney disagrees with the bigots in the Republican party, he will need the support of the bigots. If Romney wants to move his economic policies forward he'll need Teabagger support to do so. To gain Teabag support, Romney will need to concede on social issues to them. A vote for Romney is a vote for the Teabaggers.



I disagree.
You think a Tea Partier will vote for a black, Democrat from Chicago? Un-farking-likely
 
2012-08-27 12:47:02 PM
media.avclub.com


Zathaas sees difference
 
2012-08-27 12:58:31 PM

More_Like_A_Stain: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Well, try not to think of the croutons as dead compacted dried up little ass-gerbils.

ftfy


Hmm. I could've sworn I used the hyphen responsibly there.

Which indicates that I've used the phrase "dead-ass" before on my phone.

/probably concluding a long texting conversation while on the toilet
//mom complained I never made time for her; I think it's an efficient use.
 
2012-08-27 01:13:53 PM

BLeap: No that's not right. It's not just non-WASPs they want to disenfranchise, it's the young too. I forget who, but some Repub politician once said that youth shouldn't be allowed to vote because they don't make good choices (don't vote Republican).

On a side note as a resident of PA, I'd like to say how sad it is that our nation is going from a place where everyone has a say to a place where only people with the "correct" beliefs have a say.



It was Coulter, if that counts as someone. And you don't have a country where everyone has a say because you don't hear from everyone. You hear from what, half the population, in a really good election cycle?

You guys may have started the democracy ball rolling, but you're using such a primitive form of it.
 
2012-08-27 01:22:41 PM

coco ebert: JulezM: [sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net image 600x460]

Speaking of the poor, here's a piece on the hate Republicans have for the poor: Link


Thanks mate. I like Goodman.
 
2012-08-27 01:25:38 PM
I just want a TV news camera at the GOP convention to swing through the crowd, focus on a boisterous rabble-rouser holding forth in his corner, or maybe at the podium, and record him saying the N-word against the President of the United States.

The President at that point could be fitted in his tux for his next inaugural ball.
 
2012-08-27 01:59:17 PM
Mitt Romney has been for and against virtually everything multiple times. So ok.
 
2012-08-27 01:59:42 PM
 
2012-08-27 03:21:53 PM

bigevildan: Aren't all platforms the platform of Mitt Romney?


cmro.travis-starnes.com

I am of all platforms, in my fashion.
 
2012-08-27 03:46:19 PM

Darth Macho: Bob16: I guess this is suppose to mean that there is something new in the retard republican platform which is obviously a lie.

Its been the same "we hate anybody thats not rich" platform since the 1870's.

There's been a few changes over the years.

[i983.photobucket.com image 648x562]

I haven't looked. Is it worth adding a 2012 update?


Notice how things really start to go off the rails right around the time of Reagan.
 
2012-08-27 11:38:21 PM

spman: Gergesa: I think the Republican party just needs to be more honest in why they are pursuing voter ID laws. The party should just come out and say "We only want WASPs voting. You others don't vote the way we like."

Oh yeah, it definitely has NOTHING to do with curbing voter fraud, right? Even if it doesn't occur in any sort of statistically significant fashion, it's still a problem.

You can say that with a straight face, when 2/3 of the states are running insecure diebold voting machines without a paper backup. You're either a 1) a moron, 2) overhaul wearing, out house using, trash burning in the front yard ignorant, or 3) a republican shill.

Which is it?
 
2012-08-28 06:56:14 AM

Cletus C.: Notabunny: Cletus C.: I am confident that Romney is moderate enough to not let social issues derp get in the way of fixing this country's economic mess.

There are probably tens of people who agree

Romney can ignore the right wing now, cause what are they going to do, vote Obamao?


Yet they all seem to think that lefties who did not get all they wanted from Obama will now vote for Romney? I hear that from a lot of people. Including this guy:

"Obama duped young people by not doing every single thing they want, so now, they'll all vote Republican. It's like when I want some bread, I won't settle for half a loaf. Instead, I will have a muffin made of broken glass." -Stephen Colbert
 
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