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(The New Yorker)   "This is the platform of the Republican Party, it is not the platform of Mitt Romney." Inside the Republican culture war   (newyorker.com) divider line 140
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2012-08-27 06:40:00 AM
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2012-08-27 07:35:05 AM
There is no difference. He is the standard bearer of the party. You don't get to claim the guy running to be the most powerful Republican doesn't represent the views of the party platform so you can try to be a hateful little bigot and get independent voters.
 
2012-08-27 07:44:50 AM
The New Yorker is one of the few places that still employs real journalists and real writers.
 
2012-08-27 07:45:14 AM
The question needs to be asked if he would veto a no-exclusion abortion bill if it got before him.

Catch 22.
 
2012-08-27 07:51:05 AM

PreMortem: The question needs to be asked if he would veto a no-exclusion abortion bill if it got before him.

Catch 22.


Oh and if he were forced to answer, say in a debate, he would lose the election. Guaranteed.
 
2012-08-27 07:51:37 AM
There's a culture war within the GOP because many of them realize that a solid chunk of their core beliefs are becoming obsolete and they stand at risk of becoming irrelevant.

Snowe should've stayed in and duked it out, but whatever. It's her life, and I can see how she could become exhausted and exasperated dealing with the more obstinate blockheads within her party.
 
2012-08-27 08:00:06 AM
Who knows what Mitt's 'platform' is since he's made it obvious that he'll switch whatever opinion he has in order to get elected.
 
2012-08-27 08:29:43 AM
Aren't all platforms the platform of Mitt Romney?
 
2012-08-27 08:31:43 AM
He'll be signing laws created by a Republican Congress. His specific views are irrelevant
 
2012-08-27 08:33:34 AM
Articles like this are making me think that The Newsroom finally shamed some journalists into doing actual journalism.
 
2012-08-27 08:37:04 AM
Whah? Romney is not an strick ideological conservative? When did the New Yorker hire Ric Romero.
 
2012-08-27 08:39:20 AM

Lost Thought 00: He'll be signing laws created by a Republican Congress. His specific views are irrelevant


You know, he still gets to choose whether or not to sign them.
 
2012-08-27 08:39:37 AM

Knight of the Woeful Countenance: Articles like this are making me think that The Newsroom finally shamed some journalists into doing actual journalism.


Philip Gourevitch is the guy that wrote We Wish to Inform You etc etc, he's never stopped doing actual journalism.
 
2012-08-27 08:40:34 AM
its a Platform of Big Business and the Rich vs. the other 98% of the American population. that's the platform of the Republican (and some Democrats too) party.


it isn't rocket science. these folks think of this country and its government as their property to do as they please. Democracy be damned.
 
2012-08-27 08:40:54 AM
Pretending that the GOP platform is not Mitt's de facto platform is foolish in the utmost.
The 'Culture Warriors' won, they've got their hand on the till and are guiding the party.

A vote for Romney is a vote for Akin.
 
2012-08-27 08:40:58 AM

MacEnvy: Lost Thought 00: He'll be signing laws created by a Republican Congress. His specific views are irrelevant

You know, he still gets to choose whether or not to sign them.


Not according to GOP puppet master Grover Norquist.
 
2012-08-27 08:42:07 AM

Lost Thought 00: He'll be signing laws created by a Republican Congress. His specific views are irrelevant



he won't be signing anything because he will lose.
 
2012-08-27 08:45:02 AM
... and even if Romney disagrees with the bigots in the Republican party, he will need the support of the bigots. If Romney wants to move his economic policies forward he'll need Teabagger support to do so. To gain Teabag support, Romney will need to concede on social issues to them. A vote for Romney is a vote for the Teabaggers.
 
2012-08-27 08:45:08 AM

Cinaed: Pretending that the GOP platform is not Mitt's de facto platform is foolish in the utmost.
The 'Culture Warriors' won, they've got their hand on the till and are guiding the party.

A vote for Romney is a vote for Akin.


Romney is the white bread outside of the fascism and shiat sandwich that is the modern GOP.
 
2012-08-27 08:45:40 AM
I want everyone who cheered "Viva Bush" at the Republican convention in 1992 come here, into this thread, and explain to me exactly why they were cheering that.
 
2012-08-27 08:46:19 AM
Mittens Rmoney and his Gimp "biggest brown noser" Paul Ryan are both Owned. they answer to their Owners and their Owners are not the American People.
 
2012-08-27 08:47:40 AM

hinten: I want everyone who cheered "Viva Bush" at the Republican convention in 1992 come here, into this thread, and explain to me exactly why they were cheering that.



cause the TV told them too?? and because Bush Sr. was annointed by God himself, Ronnie Raygun.
 
2012-08-27 08:48:08 AM
If he will not stand up to his party on his values (ow...ooohhh...that hurt to say that) then how can he stand up to our enemies? I wouldn't feel safe with him as Prez..

/especially since I'm a woman
 
2012-08-27 08:48:22 AM

MacEnvy: Lost Thought 00: He'll be signing laws created by a Republican Congress. His specific views are irrelevant

You know, he still gets to choose whether or not to sign them.


I don't think he feels strongly enough about any issue in which he diverges from the party in order to veto something. The only exception is probably religious freedom and equality
 
2012-08-27 08:48:50 AM
I think the Republican party just needs to be more honest in why they are pursuing voter ID laws. The party should just come out and say "We only want WASPs voting. You others don't vote the way we like."
 
2012-08-27 08:48:52 AM

Lost Thought 00: He'll be signing laws created by a Republican Congress. His specific views are irrelevant


This being the subject of Elizabeth Warren's campaign makes me smile. Broadly.

"Yeah Scotty-too-Hotty's not the worst republican in the tent, but voting for him because of that is voting for the republican platform as it stands today, simply because of the way our government is working."

/good show.
 
2012-08-27 08:49:34 AM

PonceAlyosha: Cinaed: Pretending that the GOP platform is not Mitt's de facto platform is foolish in the utmost.
The 'Culture Warriors' won, they've got their hand on the till and are guiding the party.

A vote for Romney is a vote for Akin.

Romney is the white bread outside of the fascism and shiat sandwich that is the modern GOP.



and in "the greatest 'democracy' on earth", the more bread you have, the less sh*t you have to eat. everything is for sale, including our 'representative' Legislators.
 
2012-08-27 08:51:42 AM

MacEnvy: Lost Thought 00: He'll be signing laws created by a Republican Congress. His specific views are irrelevant

You know, he still gets to choose whether or not to sign them.


So...elect a guy who might veto laws based on the platform the party has put together for the convention where they nominate him?
 
2012-08-27 08:52:17 AM

hinten: I want everyone who cheered "Viva Bush" at the Republican convention in 1992 come here, into this thread, and explain to me exactly why they were cheering that.


Old school pr0n fans?
 
2012-08-27 08:52:19 AM

PonceAlyosha: Cinaed: Pretending that the GOP platform is not Mitt's de facto platform is foolish in the utmost.
The 'Culture Warriors' won, they've got their hand on the till and are guiding the party.

A vote for Romney is a vote for Akin.

Romney is the white bread outside of the fascism and shiat sandwich that is the modern GOP.


Does that make Ryan the mayo? Or is he bad enough we should call him "Miracle Whip"?
 
2012-08-27 08:53:09 AM

MacEnvy: Lost Thought 00: He'll be signing laws created by a Republican Congress. His specific views are irrelevant

You know, he still gets to choose whether or not to sign them.


I LOL'd!
 
2012-08-27 08:56:40 AM
"This is the platform of the Republican Party, it is not the platform of Mitt Romney." Inside the Republican culture war

New ad: "Romney defiantly runs on non-GOP party platform."
 
2012-08-27 09:02:50 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: hinten: I want everyone who cheered "Viva Bush" at the Republican convention in 1992 come here, into this thread, and explain to me exactly why they were cheering that.

Old school pr0n fans?


Sometimes the funny ones are the ones you don't see coming.
 
2012-08-27 09:05:02 AM

Gergesa: I think the Republican party just needs to be more honest in why they are pursuing voter ID laws. The party should just come out and say "We only want WASPs voting. You others don't vote the way we like."


Oh yeah, it definitely has NOTHING to do with curbing voter fraud, right? Even if it doesn't occur in any sort of statistically significant fashion, it's still a problem.
 
2012-08-27 09:05:10 AM
Sure, I believe that Romney personally is a lot less... objectionable than Generic Republican as far as his personal politics goes. Unfortunately I also believe him when he's repeatedly sworn up and down that he can get past that and enact GOP policy regardless of what he thinks personally.

So... how about no.
 
2012-08-27 09:05:48 AM
I guess this is suppose to mean that there is something new in the retard republican platform which is obviously a lie.

Its been the same "we hate anybody thats not rich" platform since the 1870's.
 
2012-08-27 09:06:24 AM

spman: Gergesa: I think the Republican party just needs to be more honest in why they are pursuing voter ID laws. The party should just come out and say "We only want WASPs voting. You others don't vote the way we like."

Oh yeah, it definitely has NOTHING to do with curbing voter fraud, right? Even if it doesn't occur in any sort of statistically significant fashion, it's still a problem.


I don't think that's how statistical significance works. I also don't think "Cut off your hand because you have a hangnail" is reasonable policy, but what do I know.
 
2012-08-27 09:06:48 AM
Will Mitt Romney publicly and specifically reject the parts of the platform he disagrees with in his acceptance speech?
 
2012-08-27 09:07:08 AM
I'm pretty sure Mitt Romney has declared that we're not allowed to discuss Mitt Romney, Mitt Romney's platform, or differences between Mitt Romney's platform and the GOP platform. Shut the thread down, please.
 
2012-08-27 09:07:22 AM
FTFA: When word got out that the Republican platform called for the criminalization of abortion without reference to exceptions, the Republican National Committee chairman, Reince Priebus, declined to bow to the candidate. "This is the platform of the Republican Party," he told MSNBC. "It is not the platform of Mitt Romney."


This statement makes no sense. Mitt Romney is the Republican candidate for POTUS and being nominated at a convention with the platform you drafted. If it isn't what you truly represent what is its purpose? Either you are lying to your base or to the independent voters. If your core beliefs are so unpaletable to the American voter maybe you should rethink them than try to hide them.

If I were President Obama's election team I would pounce on this. Even at the Republican convention it seems we have no idea what Mitt Romney stands for.
 
2012-08-27 09:07:37 AM

bigevildan: Aren't all platforms the platform of Mitt Romney?


Ah, but simultaneously none of them are the platform of Mitt Romney.
 
2012-08-27 09:09:18 AM

MacEnvy: Lost Thought 00: He'll be signing laws created by a Republican Congress. His specific views are irrelevant

You know, he still gets to choose whether or not to sign them.


But he won't choose. As Grover Norquist said, they only need a President that is capable of holding the pen to sign their legislation. They neither need nor want a President that will think for himself. Ergo, Romney.
 
2012-08-27 09:09:33 AM
Mitt Romney's platform changes when it is observed or measured.
 
2012-08-27 09:10:21 AM

heavymetal: If I were President Obama's election team I would pounce on this. Even at the Republican convention it seems we have no idea what Mitt Romney stands for.


Sure we do; whatever the people in the room that he's in wants. Except if they're black and want welfare.
 
2012-08-27 09:10:35 AM

hinten: I want everyone who cheered "Viva Bush" at the Republican convention in 1992 come here, into this thread, and explain to me exactly why they were cheering that.


You know, as bad as H W was, I'd take a dozen of him over a single person in the current crop. Except John Huntsman that is, and I think he's been thrown out of the GOP anyway.
 
2012-08-27 09:11:11 AM
Romney will do whatever the republican party wants him to do in order to pass his pet agenda of lowering his own taxes. So their agenda is his agenda.
 
2012-08-27 09:12:01 AM
President Obama will have a field day with that position during the debates.

"So, Mr. Romney, you do not specifically accept the GOP policies as accepted at the Convention?"

"That is correct."

"What would you do, then, if a Republican led Congress voted for a bill that would outlaw all abortions no matter what?"

"Uhhh, I would, that is, I may decide to, well, can I get back to you on that?"
 
2012-08-27 09:15:01 AM

spman: Oh yeah, it definitely has NOTHING to do with curbing voter fraud, right? Even if it doesn't occur in any sort of statistically significant fashion, it's still a problem.


Well then, we must immediately perform a cost-benefit analysis on tackling this insignificant problem!
 
2012-08-27 09:15:27 AM

spman: Gergesa: I think the Republican party just needs to be more honest in why they are pursuing voter ID laws. The party should just come out and say "We only want WASPs voting. You others don't vote the way we like."

Oh yeah, it definitely has NOTHING to do with curbing voter fraud, right?


That's correct, it has nothing to do with voter fraud.

Even if it doesn't occur in any sort of statistically significant fashion, it's still a problem.

That actually means it's not a problem.
 
2012-08-27 09:16:57 AM

Bendal: President Obama will have a field day with that position during the debates.

"So, Mr. Romney, you do not specifically accept the GOP policies as accepted at the Convention?"

"That is correct."

"What would you do, then, if a Republican led Congress voted for a bill that would outlaw all abortions no matter what?"

"Uhhh, I would, that is, I may decide to, well, can I get back to you on that?"


The American people don't care about that. Why is the Obama campaign always throwing up these distractions? Let's talk about what's really important to America.
 
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