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2012-08-27 02:24:10 PM

desertmouse: ontariolightning: When it all comes down to it, Walt's life changed when he sold his share of Grey Matter.
He becomes more bitter each week he looks at the stock market and sees it become more expensive.

I can see him launching rockets at headquarters, or shooting guards with guns to get in to the boardroom and killing all the major shareholders including his 2 old friends.

Nah, I think it would be more about trying to "get the girl." Didn't he have a big-time crush on one of the guy's wives? That's why he sold his share in the first place, because of that conflict.


last time Gretchen and him were in the same room... he about bit her head off
I don't think he wants her back, I think he wants her dead
 
2012-08-27 02:25:51 PM

ontariolightning: MagSeven: ontariolightning: The Homer Tax: Trocadero: The reason Walt flips out and kills Mike is b/c Jesse respected and liked Mike more than Walt.

That's not why Walt killed Mike.

Am I even watching the same show as some of you people? I gotta be honest, I get a kick out of reading some of these theories, and agree it's fun to speculate, but holy cow some of you are out there. I'm just going to throw this out there: Walter White didn't buy a giagntic machine gun one year from now for an epic showdown with his wife and/or protege, yo.

All I can offer you is this: Whatever you're thinking? It's probably wrong. That's what's so great about this show, it's really hard to predict most things that happen. It wasn't just last week that half the people on here were predicting some sort of Epic showdown where Mike takes out walt to end the season or series.

But what happened? Everything and nothing instead. Mike didn't go out with a proverbial "bang," he went out with a wimper. There was no great reckoning, there was no epic showdown, no one got their come-uppance. Big, Bad Mike died a lonely old man staring at a river, having been shot by a former Chemistry teacher turned wannabe drug kingpin for little more than insulting his pride. How many of your called that for the penultimate episode of the second to last "season?" Not many, I bet.

Now, Say my name.

He's going to blow up Grey Matter headquarters

With a machine gun? He'd better hope there's lots of strategically placed barrels for him to shoot.

That's all he'd really need to get in the board room of Grey Matter and kill or injure everyone there


Oh. I thought you meant "blow up" in the literal sense, as in KABOOM.
 
2012-08-27 02:45:56 PM
I think you guys have missed one very important question.....

What is the recipe for the bacon cookies????
 
2012-08-27 03:39:06 PM
Anybody got this guy's cameo during the cooking montage? I just bursted out laughing. They definitely did it on purpose to break up a very tense episode with some comic relief.

www.rellimzone.com
knifefightingjesus.com
 
2012-08-27 03:50:25 PM

rocky_howard: Anybody got this guy's cameo during the cooking montage? I just bursted out laughing. They definitely did it on purpose to break up a very tense episode with some comic relief.

[www.rellimzone.com image 641x355]
[knifefightingjesus.com image 487x500]


That's a real commercial, it wasn't done special for the show "Schticky" was his follow-up to Sham-wow.
 
2012-08-27 03:52:39 PM

EddieMoscone: And I said to my wife during Todd's first cooking experience, "That kid is major trouble."


Oh yeah, Todd is a red strobe light with a foghorn attached. There's nothing about that character that isn't trouble. I can very easily imagine him taking Walt's recipe now that he has it, trying to off (or muscle out) Walt and take over as cook, especially considering the Vamonos company is already doing 90% of the labor, Walt's just cooking and has no friends/muscle of his own.
 
2012-08-27 04:08:58 PM

The Homer Tax: Trocadero: The reason Walt flips out and kills Mike is b/c Jesse respected and liked Mike more than Walt.

That's not why Walt killed Mike.

Am I even watching the same show as some of you people? I gotta be honest, I get a kick out of reading some of these theories, and agree it's fun to speculate, but holy cow some of you are out there. I'm just going to throw this out there: Walter White didn't buy a giagntic machine gun one year from now for an epic showdown with his wife and/or protege, yo.

All I can offer you is this: Whatever you're thinking? It's probably wrong. That's what's so great about this show, it's really hard to predict most things that happen. It wasn't just last week that half the people on here were predicting some sort of Epic showdown where Mike takes out walt to end the season or series.

But what happened? Everything and nothing instead. Mike didn't go out with a proverbial "bang," he went out with a wimper. There was no great reckoning, there was no epic showdown, no one got their come-uppance. Big, Bad Mike died a lonely old man staring at a river, having been shot by a former Chemistry teacher turned wannabe drug kingpin for little more than insulting his pride. How many of your called that for the penultimate episode of the second to last "season?" Not many, I bet.

Now, Say my name.


Yup, that was about Walt's stupid inferiority complex/ego. Mike reminds him of what a schmuck he is under the Heisenberg shell. My already considerable respect for Bryan Cranston grew bounds when he basically transforms from Heisenberg back into pre-Meth Kingpin Walt (hell, into Hal from Malcolm in the Middle) in the moment when he realises what he's done.

Mike's mistake here was that he *knew* Walt was a time bomb but didn't see the specifics of how dangerous that made him to him personally. Mike who can see a trap set by rational enemies a mile away somehow didn't see that poking Walt's fragile little ego would lead to a moment of shear stupidity that would end him.

Walt's farked now (well, more farked). Most of the contacts he has were Mike's people. If he thought that having the Phoenix crew meant it was safe to dispose of Mike, he's about to prove himself very wrong. (If he thought at all. There's premeditation in what he did - he stole the gun - but a second's rational thought would have told him killing Mike was a BAD idea) Not to Mention that Jessie's already started to figure out Walt's number, just not the extent yet. It's only a matter of time before he figures out just what Walt's done to him. Maybe not Jane (how could he ever know Walt was there) but possibly Brock. And while Walt will probably try to make it look like Mike managed to disappear without a trace, I don't see him being able to do that without involving someone else. Maybe Saul (risky, since Mike was Saul's guy. Saul's scared of Walt, but if he sees a way to get rid of him, he will.) I don't see it holding up for long.
 
2012-08-27 04:39:21 PM
Walt has essentially ostracized himself and now only has Todd to rely on. Todd's motives are unknown but I highly doubt he gives a rat's a$$ about Walt. Once he has the formula down - I can see him trying to push Walter out of his own "empire"
 
2012-08-27 04:51:20 PM

Secundus: Walt has essentially ostracized himself and now only has Todd to rely on. Todd's motives are unknown but I highly doubt he gives a rat's a$$ about Walt. Once he has the formula down - I can see him trying to push Walter out of his own "empire"


My bet is that Todd's connections in prison are connected to the Phoenix guys.
 
2012-08-27 05:03:40 PM

drongozone: Walt's goose is cooked. Did no-one else not see the camera angle when Gomie arrives at Hank's office to tell him about Mike's warrant--right after Walt removed the bugs. It was from up in the corner of the room, where a cam might be. Walt's on tape removing the bugs and Hank looking at the tape will be next week's climax.


Why wouldn't Walt already be on tape planting the bug And why wouldn't he notice a camera in the room? It was just an "artsy" camera angle.
 
2012-08-27 05:08:52 PM

eddiesocket: drongozone: Walt's goose is cooked. Did no-one else not see the camera angle when Gomie arrives at Hank's office to tell him about Mike's warrant--right after Walt removed the bugs. It was from up in the corner of the room, where a cam might be. Walt's on tape removing the bugs and Hank looking at the tape will be next week's climax.

Why wouldn't Walt already be on tape planting the bug And why wouldn't he notice a camera in the room? It was just an "artsy" camera angle.


He would be on tape, but it's unlikely someone would watch the footage unless something was wrong or they suspected they were being bugged. When they do their routine bug sweep and there is no bug found, no one watches the tape. Business as usual. The data from those tapes is probably re-written over constantly as well.
 
2012-08-27 05:09:33 PM
I hope the scene with Walt and the big gun turns into a Tony Montana homage with Walt smoking some of his own gear and going bat shiat meth head terminator.
 
2012-08-27 05:12:04 PM

angrycrank: since Mike was Saul's guy.


I think it has been made abundantly clear that Mike was not Saul's guy.

"Saul, don't make me beat you until your legs don't work"
 
2012-08-27 05:14:49 PM

MagSeven: eddiesocket: drongozone: Walt's goose is cooked. Did no-one else not see the camera angle when Gomie arrives at Hank's office to tell him about Mike's warrant--right after Walt removed the bugs. It was from up in the corner of the room, where a cam might be. Walt's on tape removing the bugs and Hank looking at the tape will be next week's climax.

Why wouldn't Walt already be on tape planting the bug And why wouldn't he notice a camera in the room? It was just an "artsy" camera angle.

He would be on tape, but it's unlikely someone would watch the footage unless something was wrong or they suspected they were being bugged. When they do their routine bug sweep and there is no bug found, no one watches the tape. Business as usual. The data from those tapes is probably re-written over constantly as well.


There's no security camera. Walt wouldn't plant a bug in full view of a security camera. And there's no point in having a security camera if no one watches it.
 
2012-08-27 05:18:36 PM

The Homer Tax: Trocadero: The reason Walt flips out and kills Mike is b/c Jesse respected and liked Mike more than Walt.

That's not why Walt killed Mike.


That's precisely why he killed Mike, plus throw in a bit of "Mike never respected me!". But he was mostly just jealous. Look at his expression when he sees them shaking hands goodbye.
 
2012-08-27 05:24:22 PM

libranoelrose: angrycrank: since Mike was Saul's guy.

I think it has been made abundantly clear that Mike was not Saul's guy.

"Saul, don't make me beat you until your legs don't work"


Well, ok, yeah. Except at one point Mike ostensibly worked for Saul (it was Saul who sent Mike to Jessie's to clean up after Jane's death) while really working for Gus. Maybe it would be more accurate to say Saul was to some extent Mikes's guy. The broader point - Saul will be made very unhappy and skittish by Mike's death. And while he's not really the type to *plot* Walt's death, if he sees an opportunity he'll absolutely take it.
 
2012-08-27 05:25:39 PM

angrycrank: The broader point - Saul will be made very unhappy and skittish by Mike's death


There's no reason for Saul or Jesse to ever know Mike died.
 
2012-08-27 05:35:07 PM

eddiesocket: angrycrank: The broader point - Saul will be made very unhappy and skittish by Mike's death

There's no reason for Saul or Jesse to ever know Mike died.


I don't think Walt can effectively cover it up.
 
2012-08-27 05:39:10 PM
POSSIBLE GIGANTIC SPOILER Link
/about the flash-forward opening.
 
2012-08-27 05:41:08 PM
Anyone know roughly how much time has passed in the show? Nobody has a smartphone yet, but Walt is buying newish model cars.
 
2012-08-27 05:41:48 PM

eddiesocket: angrycrank: The broader point - Saul will be made very unhappy and skittish by Mike's death

There's no reason for Saul or Jesse to ever know Mike died.


Mike pays Saul. Saul may think Mike may have just left town at first, but I'm sure he'd expect him to call to check up on personal affairs (particularly matters that relate to Kaylee that the other lawyer dropped the ball on).
 
2012-08-27 05:43:41 PM

MarkMartinFan: Still not sure about the m60 - just looked at the dvd again to see. Both ammo cans are labeled tracer, you don't kill people with tracers, you set things on fire with them....


No sir.

A tracer round is exactly as lethal as a regular round.

It's only purpose is to see where your shots are actually going at night.

Tracers are used mostly air craft gun fire.
 
2012-08-27 05:45:26 PM

angrycrank: eddiesocket: angrycrank: The broader point - Saul will be made very unhappy and skittish by Mike's death

There's no reason for Saul or Jesse to ever know Mike died.

I don't think Walt can effectively cover it up.


To elaborate - Walt needs to and will try to cover this and has covered up murders before, but not by himself, and not from the very people who helped him dispose of the previous bodies. He'll absolutely try to make it look like Mike skipped town and covered his traces, but I think somewhere along the way he misses something and Jesse and/or Saul figures out that Mike's dead, and they know Walt went out to meet him.

Also, Walt unwisely bragged about Fring's murder in this very episode. I don't think he's stupid enough to brag to Jesse or Saul, but I don't put it past him to reveal it to someone else.
 
2012-08-27 05:46:22 PM

MagSeven: eddiesocket: angrycrank: The broader point - Saul will be made very unhappy and skittish by Mike's death

There's no reason for Saul or Jesse to ever know Mike died.

Mike pays Saul. Saul may think Mike may have just left town at first, but I'm sure he'd expect him to call to check up on personal affairs (particularly matters that relate to Kaylee that the other lawyer dropped the ball on).


Mike was leaving town for good. That's why he wanted the bag with the money and passport. Neither Jesse nor Saul ever expected to hear from Mike again.

angrycrank: I don't think Walt can effectively cover it up.


Todd and a barrel ought to do the trick.
 
2012-08-27 05:46:26 PM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Anyone know roughly how much time has passed in the show? Nobody has a smartphone yet, but Walt is buying newish model cars.


What's that have to do with anything? They don't have smart phones because they use cheap, disposable, non traceable phones.

But to answer your question: just over a year.
 
2012-08-27 05:47:24 PM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Anyone know roughly how much time has passed in the show? Nobody has a smartphone yet, but Walt is buying newish model cars.


Just over one year. His birthday episode early this season was exactly one year from the premiere. The flashforward is one year ahead of the current episodes.
 
2012-08-27 05:52:47 PM

eddiesocket: MagSeven: eddiesocket: angrycrank: The broader point - Saul will be made very unhappy and skittish by Mike's death

There's no reason for Saul or Jesse to ever know Mike died.

Mike pays Saul. Saul may think Mike may have just left town at first, but I'm sure he'd expect him to call to check up on personal affairs (particularly matters that relate to Kaylee that the other lawyer dropped the ball on).

Mike was leaving town for good. That's why he wanted the bag with the money and passport. Neither Jesse nor Saul ever expected to hear from Mike again.

angrycrank: I don't think Walt can effectively cover it up.

Todd and a barrel ought to do the trick.


I would think still think Saul would. He knows Mike's lawyer is in custody. He knows Kaylee's trust is probably with the DEA. He knows Kaylee is all Mike really cares about. He has a drawer full of burner phones, one is probably Mike's line to him. Mike had many hiding places and drop spots, I would think that if he were alive, he'd eventually reach out to Saul to make sure his granddaughter is taken care of.
 
2012-08-27 05:55:26 PM

MagSeven: eddiesocket: MagSeven: eddiesocket: angrycrank: The broader point - Saul will be made very unhappy and skittish by Mike's death

There's no reason for Saul or Jesse to ever know Mike died.

Mike pays Saul. Saul may think Mike may have just left town at first, but I'm sure he'd expect him to call to check up on personal affairs (particularly matters that relate to Kaylee that the other lawyer dropped the ball on).

Mike was leaving town for good. That's why he wanted the bag with the money and passport. Neither Jesse nor Saul ever expected to hear from Mike again.

angrycrank: I don't think Walt can effectively cover it up.

Todd and a barrel ought to do the trick.

I would think still think Saul would. He knows Mike's lawyer is in custody. He knows Kaylee's trust is probably with the DEA. He knows Kaylee is all Mike really cares about. He has a drawer full of burner phones, one is probably Mike's line to him. Mike had many hiding places and drop spots, I would think that if he were alive, he'd eventually reach out to Saul to make sure his granddaughter is taken care of.


And if Mike doesn't "eventually" reach out to Saul, Saul will know Walt killed him? Nah. Dumb,. There's nothing Saul could tell Mike that Mike couldn't google from the island he escaped to (in Saul's mind).
 
2012-08-27 06:05:05 PM

eddiesocket: MagSeven: eddiesocket: MagSeven: eddiesocket: angrycrank: The broader point - Saul will be made very unhappy and skittish by Mike's death

There's no reason for Saul or Jesse to ever know Mike died.

Mike pays Saul. Saul may think Mike may have just left town at first, but I'm sure he'd expect him to call to check up on personal affairs (particularly matters that relate to Kaylee that the other lawyer dropped the ball on).

Mike was leaving town for good. That's why he wanted the bag with the money and passport. Neither Jesse nor Saul ever expected to hear from Mike again.

angrycrank: I don't think Walt can effectively cover it up.

Todd and a barrel ought to do the trick.

I would think still think Saul would. He knows Mike's lawyer is in custody. He knows Kaylee's trust is probably with the DEA. He knows Kaylee is all Mike really cares about. He has a drawer full of burner phones, one is probably Mike's line to him. Mike had many hiding places and drop spots, I would think that if he were alive, he'd eventually reach out to Saul to make sure his granddaughter is taken care of.

And if Mike doesn't "eventually" reach out to Saul, Saul will know Walt killed him? Nah. Dumb,. There's nothing Saul could tell Mike that Mike couldn't google from the island he escaped to (in Saul's mind).


Not that Walt killed him, but that something is wrong.The guy disappears into the ether abandoning the only person in the world he really cares about and has been working all these years to provide for? Doesn't fit Mike's character. He would gladly do time or die if Kaylee was taken care of. Google wouldn't let Mike wire large sums of money from a federal fugitive to a new trust account Saul could set up for Kaylee, either.
 
2012-08-27 06:07:07 PM

MagSeven: Not that Walt killed him, but that something is wrong.The guy disappears into the ether abandoning the only person in the world he really cares about and has been working all these years to provide for? Doesn't fit Mike's character. He would gladly do time or die if Kaylee was taken care of. Google wouldn't let Mike wire large sums of money from a federal fugitive to a new trust account Saul could set up for Kaylee, either.


How would he get his hands on any money? He was out. That was the whole point. There's no reason for him to call Saul, ever.
 
2012-08-27 06:09:24 PM
SwingingJohnson

MarkMartinFan: Still not sure about the m60 - just looked at the dvd again to see. Both ammo cans are labeled tracer, you don't kill people with tracers, you set things on fire with them....

No sir.
A tracer round is exactly as lethal as a regular round.
It's only purpose is to see where your shots are actually going at night.
Tracers are used mostly air craft gun fire.

and on twin 50's atop a swift boat
vietnam class of '68 to '72
but they don't mushroom so I stand by 'ain't as lethal as ball m2' if you are going to go for kills

/obviously lethal since I can't buy them in Ca
//ammoman has them on sale right now too
 
2012-08-27 06:14:17 PM

eddiesocket: MagSeven: Not that Walt killed him, but that something is wrong.The guy disappears into the ether abandoning the only person in the world he really cares about and has been working all these years to provide for? Doesn't fit Mike's character. He would gladly do time or die if Kaylee was taken care of. Google wouldn't let Mike wire large sums of money from a federal fugitive to a new trust account Saul could set up for Kaylee, either.

How would he get his hands on any money? He was out. That was the whole point. There's no reason for him to call Saul, ever.


Mike had drops and contacts all over. He didn't put his 5 million into ONE bank account that was seized by the feds. Plus, he is pretty goddamned resourceful, as any scene he was in on the show would tell you.
 
2012-08-27 06:18:12 PM

MagSeven: eddiesocket: MagSeven: Not that Walt killed him, but that something is wrong.The guy disappears into the ether abandoning the only person in the world he really cares about and has been working all these years to provide for? Doesn't fit Mike's character. He would gladly do time or die if Kaylee was taken care of. Google wouldn't let Mike wire large sums of money from a federal fugitive to a new trust account Saul could set up for Kaylee, either.

How would he get his hands on any money? He was out. That was the whole point. There's no reason for him to call Saul, ever.

Mike had drops and contacts all over. He didn't put his 5 million into ONE bank account that was seized by the feds. Plus, he is pretty goddamned resourceful, as any scene he was in on the show would tell you.


He did in fact put the 5 million in one account. That's exactly what he did.
 
2012-08-27 06:32:58 PM

eddiesocket: MagSeven: eddiesocket: MagSeven: Not that Walt killed him, but that something is wrong.The guy disappears into the ether abandoning the only person in the world he really cares about and has been working all these years to provide for? Doesn't fit Mike's character. He would gladly do time or die if Kaylee was taken care of. Google wouldn't let Mike wire large sums of money from a federal fugitive to a new trust account Saul could set up for Kaylee, either.

How would he get his hands on any money? He was out. That was the whole point. There's no reason for him to call Saul, ever.

Mike had drops and contacts all over. He didn't put his 5 million into ONE bank account that was seized by the feds. Plus, he is pretty goddamned resourceful, as any scene he was in on the show would tell you.

He did in fact put the 5 million in one account. That's exactly what he did.


Um no he didn't unless all those safety deposit boxes were in his name and families NOT in his name had access to them (lawyer said they came in to collect the cash). Also, when you place 5 million dollars into a bank account, the IRS quickly takes notice.
 
2012-08-27 06:39:52 PM

MagSeven: eddiesocket: MagSeven: eddiesocket: MagSeven: Not that Walt killed him, but that something is wrong.The guy disappears into the ether abandoning the only person in the world he really cares about and has been working all these years to provide for? Doesn't fit Mike's character. He would gladly do time or die if Kaylee was taken care of. Google wouldn't let Mike wire large sums of money from a federal fugitive to a new trust account Saul could set up for Kaylee, either.

How would he get his hands on any money? He was out. That was the whole point. There's no reason for him to call Saul, ever.

Mike had drops and contacts all over. He didn't put his 5 million into ONE bank account that was seized by the feds. Plus, he is pretty goddamned resourceful, as any scene he was in on the show would tell you.

He did in fact put the 5 million in one account. That's exactly what he did.

Um no he didn't unless all those safety deposit boxes were in his name and families NOT in his name had access to them (lawyer said they came in to collect the cash). Also, when you place 5 million dollars into a bank account, the IRS quickly takes notice.


If he hasd other money for Kaylee, he never would've gone into business with Walt in the first place. Are you even watching the show? Jesus. The DEA took all his money that Gus set up for him. The IRS didn't notice because it was a secret offshore account. The sum total of Mike's earnings were in that duffel bag. He never would've called Saul or Jesse again. That was made crystal clear. The only way anyone finds out Mike is dead is if Walt farks up in the body disposal.
 
2012-08-27 06:55:13 PM

eddiesocket: MagSeven: eddiesocket: MagSeven: eddiesocket: MagSeven: Not that Walt killed him, but that something is wrong.The guy disappears into the ether abandoning the only person in the world he really cares about and has been working all these years to provide for? Doesn't fit Mike's character. He would gladly do time or die if Kaylee was taken care of. Google wouldn't let Mike wire large sums of money from a federal fugitive to a new trust account Saul could set up for Kaylee, either.

How would he get his hands on any money? He was out. That was the whole point. There's no reason for him to call Saul, ever.

Mike had drops and contacts all over. He didn't put his 5 million into ONE bank account that was seized by the feds. Plus, he is pretty goddamned resourceful, as any scene he was in on the show would tell you.

He did in fact put the 5 million in one account. That's exactly what he did.

Um no he didn't unless all those safety deposit boxes were in his name and families NOT in his name had access to them (lawyer said they came in to collect the cash). Also, when you place 5 million dollars into a bank account, the IRS quickly takes notice.

If he hasd other money for Kaylee, he never would've gone into business with Walt in the first place. Are you even watching the show? Jesus. The DEA took all his money that Gus set up for him. The IRS didn't notice because it was a secret offshore account. The sum total of Mike's earnings were in that duffel bag. He never would've called Saul or Jesse again. That was made crystal clear. The only way anyone finds out Mike is dead is if Walt farks up in the body disposal.


If he had ENOUGH (or what he thought was enough) money for Kaylee, he would have never worked for Fring. Mike had 2 big paydays when he was with Walt. One that covered the legacy payment and left him with a a little under a hundred grand and one that netted him 5 MILLION. If it was in a "secret offshore account" how the fark would the DEA get to it? We also don't know for sure the DEA seized anything in the safety deposit boxes. For all we know they just seized the money in front of them and don't know a thing about the boxes. Stop making shiat up and treating it as gospel. You can't shoot down anyone's theories and ask "are you even watching the show. Jesus" when you don't write the show and you don't know what's coming next anymore than I do. You say Mike's got no reason to reach out to Saul, I say he has reason to now more than ever. Maybe one of us is right, maybe neither.
 
2012-08-27 07:03:05 PM
When the magnet made all the evidence move in the first episode it revealed an offshore account number in Fring's picture frame.

That money was taken, that's why Mike decided to change his mind and work with Walt.

Since Mike's lawyer flipped I'm sure he has told the DEA about the safety deposit boxes. Even if he didn't we have to assume that the DEA will have the authority to confiscate the money from the boxes.
 
2012-08-27 07:05:49 PM

libranoelrose: When the magnet made all the evidence move in the first episode it revealed an offshore account number in Fring's picture frame.

That money was taken, that's why Mike decided to change his mind and work with Walt.

Since Mike's lawyer flipped I'm sure he has told the DEA about the safety deposit boxes. Even if he didn't we have to assume that the DEA will have the authority to confiscate the money from the boxes.


Would they all share the offshore account? Wouldn't Gus want one for himself? Wouldn't Mike want his own account?
 
2012-08-27 07:06:27 PM

MagSeven: eddiesocket: MagSeven: eddiesocket: MagSeven: eddiesocket: MagSeven: Not that Walt killed him, but that something is wrong.The guy disappears into the ether abandoning the only person in the world he really cares about and has been working all these years to provide for? Doesn't fit Mike's character. He would gladly do time or die if Kaylee was taken care of. Google wouldn't let Mike wire large sums of money from a federal fugitive to a new trust account Saul could set up for Kaylee, either.

How would he get his hands on any money? He was out. That was the whole point. There's no reason for him to call Saul, ever.

Mike had drops and contacts all over. He didn't put his 5 million into ONE bank account that was seized by the feds. Plus, he is pretty goddamned resourceful, as any scene he was in on the show would tell you.

He did in fact put the 5 million in one account. That's exactly what he did.

Um no he didn't unless all those safety deposit boxes were in his name and families NOT in his name had access to them (lawyer said they came in to collect the cash). Also, when you place 5 million dollars into a bank account, the IRS quickly takes notice.

If he hasd other money for Kaylee, he never would've gone into business with Walt in the first place. Are you even watching the show? Jesus. The DEA took all his money that Gus set up for him. The IRS didn't notice because it was a secret offshore account. The sum total of Mike's earnings were in that duffel bag. He never would've called Saul or Jesse again. That was made crystal clear. The only way anyone finds out Mike is dead is if Walt farks up in the body disposal.

If he had ENOUGH (or what he thought was enough) money for Kaylee, he would have never worked for Fring. Mike had 2 big paydays when he was with Walt. One that covered the legacy payment and left him with a a little under a hundred grand and one that netted him 5 MILLION. If it was in a "secret offshore account" how the fark would the DEA get to it? We also don't know for sure the DEA seized anything in the safety deposit boxes. For all we know they just seized the money in front of them and don't know a thing about the boxes. Stop making shiat up and treating it as gospel. You can't shoot down anyone's theories and ask "are you even watching the show. Jesus" when you don't write the show and you don't know what's coming next anymore than I do. You say Mike's got no reason to reach out to Saul, I say he has reason to now more than ever. Maybe one of us is right, maybe neither.


So, you don't watch or watch casually, fine. Jesus. If you don't know how the DEA found out about his secret, offshore account, I don't know what else to say.
 
2012-08-27 07:08:28 PM

libranoelrose: When the magnet made all the evidence move in the first episode it revealed an offshore account number in Fring's picture frame.

That money was taken, that's why Mike decided to change his mind and work with Walt.

Since Mike's lawyer flipped I'm sure he has told the DEA about the safety deposit boxes. Even if he didn't we have to assume that the DEA will have the authority to confiscate the money from the boxes.


Plus Saul flat out said all of Mike's money for Kaylee was taken away twice in this very episode.
 
2012-08-27 07:10:05 PM

MagSeven: libranoelrose: When the magnet made all the evidence move in the first episode it revealed an offshore account number in Fring's picture frame.

That money was taken, that's why Mike decided to change his mind and work with Walt.

Since Mike's lawyer flipped I'm sure he has told the DEA about the safety deposit boxes. Even if he didn't we have to assume that the DEA will have the authority to confiscate the money from the boxes.

Would they all share the offshore account? Wouldn't Gus want one for himself? Wouldn't Mike want his own account?


There were multiple accounts discovered by the DEA. One was in Kaylee's name. Watch the show, then opine. That's how it works.
 
2012-08-27 07:10:27 PM
Didn't read all the comments but I'll add this.

Walt didn't kill Mike because of the 9 names. Walt is smart enough to have already known he could get the names from Lydia.
Maybe because Mike and Jesse were getting along too well, don't know. As far as letting Mike ride off into the suset or
killing him off, either was no danger to Walt or Jesse. The 9 guys are the problem. Walt just wanted Mike gone.

Notice the way Walt was dressed when he killed Mike? Went back to the chemistry teacher look. I guess to try and make you feel sorry for Walt
for messing up.

Mike was one of my favorite characters and as much as I hated to see him get killed, he was a murderer and a scumbag just like Walt and Jesse
and deserved what he got just like Jesse and Walt deserve the same. The look on Mikes face as his granddaughter was playing between him and the cops crushed me. Like a part of Mike had died because he knew he'd never see her again.
 
2012-08-27 07:13:48 PM

NeoCortex42: Otto_E_Rodika: The Walt / Jesse relationship is more father / son than anything. Walt Jr. is damaged in Walt's eyes. He loves him, but he is never going to be the man that Walt wanted to carry on his legacy. Jesse is the son that Walt believes he should have had. That is what hurts him so much about seeing him respecting Mike, and why he refuses to let Jesse go.

As to hiding / disposing the body. Don't think Walt has to do either. Hank knows that some elements of the old Fring crew are still in business. He'll write it up to a drug hit because they were getting close too Mike, and in the words of Saul, anybody can be flipped. Walt's real issue is going to be with Jesse, because he will know, or Walt will tell him himself as a way to reassert his status as top dog.

Also, Todd. He's up to something and no way is as dumb as he is playing it.

Taking care of Mike's body would be more of an issue for Jesse and Saul than the DEA. If Mike is dead or on the run, the DEA would still be certain that there's more left of Fring's crew, and it wouldn't change their investigation all that much. However, if he turns up dead, Saul would find out (and tell Jesse). It would be obvious to both of them that Walt killed him. I don't think Walt can afford to have both Saul and Jesse turn on him. If he hides the body, then everybody just assumes things went as planned and Mike is in hiding.


MIKE'S BODY is going down the same well as the lap top and guns went.
 
2012-08-27 07:18:57 PM

eddiesocket: MagSeven: eddiesocket: MagSeven: eddiesocket: MagSeven: eddiesocket: MagSeven: Not that Walt killed him, but that something is wrong.The guy disappears into the ether abandoning the only person in the world he really cares about and has been working all these years to provide for? Doesn't fit Mike's character. He would gladly do time or die if Kaylee was taken care of. Google wouldn't let Mike wire large sums of money from a federal fugitive to a new trust account Saul could set up for Kaylee, either.

How would he get his hands on any money? He was out. That was the whole point. There's no reason for him to call Saul, ever.

Mike had drops and contacts all over. He didn't put his 5 million into ONE bank account that was seized by the feds. Plus, he is pretty goddamned resourceful, as any scene he was in on the show would tell you.

He did in fact put the 5 million in one account. That's exactly what he did.

Um no he didn't unless all those safety deposit boxes were in his name and families NOT in his name had access to them (lawyer said they came in to collect the cash). Also, when you place 5 million dollars into a bank account, the IRS quickly takes notice.

If he hasd other money for Kaylee, he never would've gone into business with Walt in the first place. Are you even watching the show? Jesus. The DEA took all his money that Gus set up for him. The IRS didn't notice because it was a secret offshore account. The sum total of Mike's earnings were in that duffel bag. He never would've called Saul or Jesse again. That was made crystal clear. The only way anyone finds out Mike is dead is if Walt farks up in the body disposal.

If he had ENOUGH (or what he thought was enough) money for Kaylee, he would have never worked for Fring. Mike had 2 big paydays when he was with Walt. One that covered the legacy payment and left him with a a little under a hundred grand and one that netted him 5 MILLION. If it was in a "secret offshore account" how the fark would the DEA g ...


When did I say I didn't know about Fring's account? Putting words in my mouth as well as the show's I see.
 
2012-08-27 07:19:38 PM

SwingingJohnson: MIKE'S BODY is going down the same well as the lap top and guns went.


Is Mike's corpse going to drag itself to the well?

Who else knows about it?
 
2012-08-27 07:21:41 PM

eddiesocket: libranoelrose: When the magnet made all the evidence move in the first episode it revealed an offshore account number in Fring's picture frame.

That money was taken, that's why Mike decided to change his mind and work with Walt.

Since Mike's lawyer flipped I'm sure he has told the DEA about the safety deposit boxes. Even if he didn't we have to assume that the DEA will have the authority to confiscate the money from the boxes.

Plus Saul flat out said all of Mike's money for Kaylee was taken away twice in this very episode.


Saul flat out said "this is the second time the DEA has confiscated his "bankroll". A bankroll, by definition is not all of your money.
 
2012-08-27 07:25:09 PM

MagSeven: When did I say I didn't know about Fring's account? Putting words in my mouth as well as the show's I see.


If it was in a "secret offshore account" how the fark would the DEA get to it?
 
2012-08-27 07:27:11 PM

MagSeven: eddiesocket: libranoelrose: When the magnet made all the evidence move in the first episode it revealed an offshore account number in Fring's picture frame.

That money was taken, that's why Mike decided to change his mind and work with Walt.

Since Mike's lawyer flipped I'm sure he has told the DEA about the safety deposit boxes. Even if he didn't we have to assume that the DEA will have the authority to confiscate the money from the boxes.

Plus Saul flat out said all of Mike's money for Kaylee was taken away twice in this very episode.

Saul flat out said "this is the second time the DEA has confiscated his "bankroll". A bankroll, by definition is not all of your money.


Okay, we're farking done here. Jesus. You're a farking troll. Shame on me.
 
2012-08-27 07:27:11 PM

eddiesocket: MagSeven: When did I say I didn't know about Fring's account? Putting words in my mouth as well as the show's I see.

If it was in a "secret offshore account" how the fark would the DEA get to it?


FRING HAD THE OFFSHORE ACCOUNT! FRING!!!!!! WHY WOULD MIKE HAVE THE SAME ACCOUNT AS FRING?!!
 
2012-08-27 07:27:58 PM

eddiesocket: MagSeven: eddiesocket: libranoelrose: When the magnet made all the evidence move in the first episode it revealed an offshore account number in Fring's picture frame.

That money was taken, that's why Mike decided to change his mind and work with Walt.

Since Mike's lawyer flipped I'm sure he has told the DEA about the safety deposit boxes. Even if he didn't we have to assume that the DEA will have the authority to confiscate the money from the boxes.

Plus Saul flat out said all of Mike's money for Kaylee was taken away twice in this very episode.

Saul flat out said "this is the second time the DEA has confiscated his "bankroll". A bankroll, by definition is not all of your money.

Okay, we're farking done here. Jesus. You're a farking troll. Shame on me.

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You're a farking asshole. We are done.
 
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