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2012-08-27 10:26:43 AM
Actually I had a question about that long shot of walt pulling up in his 300, the very long shot with all those trees. Was that supposed to spell something/represent something?
 
2012-08-27 10:43:12 AM

Homer Elmer: There is something strange about Todd and how he was acting with Walt on cooking meth. It is almost like he is playing dumb. I think he is smarter then he is making it look like he is


He'd farking have to be. Todd strikes me as a particularly simple man. The type of man that has to remind himself to breathe. If you were to place a light tight burlap sack over Todd's head, there would be no struggle or panic. He would assume it was night out and his mind would start to shut down and he'd fall asleep.

/The actor playing Todd is doing a great job of acting/looking simple. There has to be more going on in Todd's head than what we are privy to.
 
2012-08-27 10:49:36 AM
Walt's goose is cooked. Did no-one else not see the camera angle when Gomie arrives at Hank's office to tell him about Mike's warrant--right after Walt removed the bugs. It was from up in the corner of the room, where a cam might be. Walt's on tape removing the bugs and Hank looking at the tape will be next week's climax.
 
2012-08-27 10:51:28 AM

MagSeven: There has to be more going on in Todd's head than what we are privy to.


I wouldn't be surprised if Todd is writing down the Meth recipe and then is going to try and sell it to the Phoenix crew. With Jesse, Walt had loyalty I can't see Todd be loyal to anyone, and with Mike out the the picture, there's no one to keep him in line..
 
2012-08-27 10:53:03 AM
I can't believe none of you are wondering what the hell Hank was seeing in those photos while his boss was trying to get his attention. I freeze framed them but couldn't see anything notable, but I am not a master detective like Hank.
 
2012-08-27 11:00:18 AM

desertmouse: Anyone have a picture of the cake popsicles? I'm wondering if they represent the characters in some way.


They focused on one that was shaped like a pig. At first I thought it was a fat joke, but it made more sense once Smilin' Gomie and the DEA showed up.
 
2012-08-27 11:11:42 AM

MagSeven: Homer Elmer: There is something strange about Todd and how he was acting with Walt on cooking meth. It is almost like he is playing dumb. I think he is smarter then he is making it look like he is

He'd farking have to be. Todd strikes me as a particularly simple man. The type of man that has to remind himself to breathe. If you were to place a light tight burlap sack over Todd's head, there would be no struggle or panic. He would assume it was night out and his mind would start to shut down and he'd fall asleep.

/The actor playing Todd is doing a great job of acting/looking simple. There has to be more going on in Todd's head than what we are privy to.


I disagree with the analysis of him as simple, only because he was introduced to us as the only guy who was astute enough to catch the nanny cam.
 
2012-08-27 11:18:20 AM

SundaesChild: MagSeven: Homer Elmer: There is something strange about Todd and how he was acting with Walt on cooking meth. It is almost like he is playing dumb. I think he is smarter then he is making it look like he is

He'd farking have to be. Todd strikes me as a particularly simple man. The type of man that has to remind himself to breathe. If you were to place a light tight burlap sack over Todd's head, there would be no struggle or panic. He would assume it was night out and his mind would start to shut down and he'd fall asleep.

/The actor playing Todd is doing a great job of acting/looking simple. There has to be more going on in Todd's head than what we are privy to.

I disagree with the analysis of him as simple, only because he was introduced to us as the only guy who was astute enough to catch the nanny cam.


Oh, I don't think he IS simple, he just LOOKS simple.
 
2012-08-27 11:18:44 AM

drongozone: Walt's goose is cooked. Did no-one else not see the camera angle when Gomie arrives at Hank's office to tell him about Mike's warrant--right after Walt removed the bugs. It was from up in the corner of the room, where a cam might be. Walt's on tape removing the bugs and Hank looking at the tape will be next week's climax.


Yeah, I noticed that, too. It's the exact angle you'd expect from a security camera.
 
2012-08-27 11:26:30 AM
-Was Walt thinking clearly enough to wipe his prints off of Mike's tan "get out of town" bag or take it with him? His prints may be on record from his previous arrest...

- Is little Kaylee's trust now in the hands of the DEA? It would suck if they seized that. That's all Mike was really in it for. Maybe Jesse will do right by her assuming Walt doesn't fark his life up as well.
 
2012-08-27 11:28:31 AM
I don't usually comment in these threads, though I do read every comment every monday because I love the analysis. Well, most of the time.

Nobody's mentioned it yet, but, what happens next? Does Walter turn Mike into soup like all the others and bury the barrel of Mike soup in the desert? What about Mike's car? If Walter doesn't turn Mike into Mike soup, does he make Mike's death look like a suicide? The motive is there, but what about the forensics? It'll be obvious Mike was shot through the car window, and from a distance. No way that wound was self-inflicted. He'd have to enlist Todd to assist in disposal, at least of Mike. Can't just saws-all a car and put that in a barrel and make car soup, can you?
 
2012-08-27 11:32:10 AM

Confabulat: I can't believe none of you are wondering what the hell Hank was seeing in those photos while his boss was trying to get his attention. I freeze framed them but couldn't see anything notable, but I am not a master detective like Hank.


THIS!

I honestly couldn't figure it out. The only theory I came up with, and this is a total shot in the dark, is that Hank was doing a double take on Mike slight resemblance to Walt. But again, that's a theory smothered in weak sauce, since I couldn't see anything that jumped up and grabbed me about the pics.
 
2012-08-27 11:32:17 AM

Confabulat: I can't believe none of you are wondering what the hell Hank was seeing in those photos while his boss was trying to get his attention. I freeze framed them but couldn't see anything notable, but I am not a master detective like Hank.


I thought that the last one he looked at was Mike sitting at the table in the diner (from the first or second episode this season). There is a woman standing in the picture, with her back to the camera, presumably walking towards the table. I think that the woman is Lydia, the attorney for Madrigal. (This was the meeting where she freaked out and told Mike he needed to kill his crew). My guess is that Hank eventually figures this out and then leans on Lydia for information. Given her disposition, she likely will spill the beans on her involvement in providing methylamine to Walter & Jesse.
 
2012-08-27 11:37:01 AM

EddieMoscone: I don't usually comment in these threads, though I do read every comment every monday because I love the analysis. Well, most of the time.

Nobody's mentioned it yet, but, what happens next? Does Walter turn Mike into soup like all the others and bury the barrel of Mike soup in the desert? What about Mike's car? If Walter doesn't turn Mike into Mike soup, does he make Mike's death look like a suicide? The motive is there, but what about the forensics? It'll be obvious Mike was shot through the car window, and from a distance. No way that wound was self-inflicted. He'd have to enlist Todd to assist in disposal, at least of Mike. Can't just saws-all a car and put that in a barrel and make car soup, can you?


I think Walt will lapse back into simple Walt for a brief moment. Realizing what he's done, and forget to properly dispose of Mike. Then there will be a news story on someone finding Mike's body. Jess will know it was Walt, and we'll end the 1st half with Jesse going after Skyler as payback, and Hank finding out it was Walt all along.

I had put my money on Jesse dying at the end of the 1st half, but with Mike killed by Walt's hand, I see Jesse and Walt being the penultimate conflict going into what the 1 year flash forward is all about.
 
2012-08-27 11:43:47 AM
Mike made the piss-poor decision of having Walt get his travel bag instead of Jesse. Why would Mike trust Walt for anything at that point, when the only chemistry Walt is good at is turning everything into shiat.

Mike made a biggie-sized mistake and got what he deserved
 
2012-08-27 11:46:03 AM

Confabulat: I can't believe none of you are wondering what the hell Hank was seeing in those photos while his boss was trying to get his attention. I freeze framed them but couldn't see anything notable, but I am not a master detective like Hank.


I don't think he was looking at anything specific. I think he was just lost in thought, thinking "why can't I get anything on this guy?" instead of listening to his boss, which led to his boss chewing him out for his costly obsession with Mike.
 
2012-08-27 11:51:31 AM

EddieMoscone: I don't usually comment in these threads, though I do read every comment every monday because I love the analysis. Well, most of the time.

Nobody's mentioned it yet, but, what happens next? Does Walter turn Mike into soup like all the others and bury the barrel of Mike soup in the desert? What about Mike's car? If Walter doesn't turn Mike into Mike soup, does he make Mike's death look like a suicide? The motive is there, but what about the forensics? It'll be obvious Mike was shot through the car window, and from a distance. No way that wound was self-inflicted. He'd have to enlist Todd to assist in disposal, at least of Mike. Can't just saws-all a car and put that in a barrel and make car soup, can you?


Maybe he'll take Mike and his car to the guy that crushes cars (the guy Walt and co. bought the magnet from).
 
2012-08-27 11:54:08 AM

gunga galunga: Confabulat: I can't believe none of you are wondering what the hell Hank was seeing in those photos while his boss was trying to get his attention. I freeze framed them but couldn't see anything notable, but I am not a master detective like Hank.

I don't think he was looking at anything specific. I think he was just lost in thought, thinking "why can't I get anything on this guy?" instead of listening to his boss, which led to his boss chewing him out for his costly obsession with Mike.


I thought about that too, but with the music and the way Hank was looking back and forth, like he was piecing something together, and the way the camera focused on those three photos in turn, makes me think he saw something, or we could see something. Might be reading too much into it, but Breaking Bad doesn't usually do things without a purpose.

My guess: His left- or right-handedness (I can't really tell from the photos but I'm no master detective) which may come into play if Walt tries to play this off as a suicide next week.

Shot in the dark.
 
2012-08-27 11:55:21 AM

Gunderson: Mike made the piss-poor decision of having Walt get his travel bag instead of Jesse. Why would Mike trust Walt for anything at that point, when the only chemistry Walt is good at is turning everything into shiat.

Mike made a biggie-sized mistake and got what he deserved


I think it was obvious that he didn't have a choice. Mike really wanted Saul to do it, so as not to involve Jesse, but Walt knew that Jesse would keep insisting that he bring the bag. Walt couldn't allow that since it was already obvious from the earlier scene that Jesse and Mike were bonding to the point where Walt didn't fully think he could trust him. I think Mike realized from listening to the conversation was that he could either take a chance on Walt bringing the bag, or there wouldn't be anybody bringing it.
 
2012-08-27 11:56:48 AM

FinFangFark: EddieMoscone:

Jess will know it was Walt, and we'll end the 1st half with Jesse going after Skyler as payback, and Hank finding out it was Walt all along.


After the last looks between Skylar and Jesse at the car wash showed, I think it's dawned on both of them that they are two sides of the same coin; Walt's hostages. If anything, Jesse will help Skylar kill Walt or give her the means/info to disappear herself and her kids.

The second time I watched last night's episode, the more it looks like this whole damn show has been a big, crazy complicated love story between two men, Walt and Jesse. The reason Walt flips out and kills Mike is b/c Jesse respected and liked Mike more than Walt. You could see the lover's jealousy in those eyes looking out when Jesse shakes Mike's hand for the last time. The knowing glances between Skylar and Jesse, realizing they are in the same position. Hell, Walt seemed to get more pissed off when Gus tried to butter up Jesse than when Ted Beneke slept w/ his farking wife. He killed Gus, didn't kill Ted. The last real emotion Walt has shown to another character was when he accidentally called his son Jesse; those were real tears, not the crap Walt usually throws around Hank or Skylar. I'm betting some liberal arts professor who specializes in homosexual/relationship themes is writing a real doozy.
 
2012-08-27 11:57:09 AM

Confabulat: gunga galunga: Confabulat: I can't believe none of you are wondering what the hell Hank was seeing in those photos while his boss was trying to get his attention. I freeze framed them but couldn't see anything notable, but I am not a master detective like Hank.

I don't think he was looking at anything specific. I think he was just lost in thought, thinking "why can't I get anything on this guy?" instead of listening to his boss, which led to his boss chewing him out for his costly obsession with Mike.

I thought about that too, but with the music and the way Hank was looking back and forth, like he was piecing something together, and the way the camera focused on those three photos in turn, makes me think he saw something, or we could see something. Might be reading too much into it, but Breaking Bad doesn't usually do things without a purpose.

My guess: His left- or right-handedness (I can't really tell from the photos but I'm no master detective) which may come into play if Walt tries to play this off as a suicide next week.

Shot in the dark.


I can't see Walt trying to play it as a suicide. Who kills themselves with a gut-wound? Also, if it became known that Mike died (which Saul would definitely hear about), there's no way Jesse and Saul wouldn't be able to piece that together.

Walt needs to make Mike disappear. Burying him in the desert is probably good enough for now. The problem is getting rid of the car.
 
2012-08-27 11:58:59 AM
Why put your go bag in a place that is unretrieveable when you have to go?
 
2012-08-27 12:00:45 PM

NeoCortex42: I can't see Walt trying to play it as a suicide. Who kills themselves with a gut-wound? Also, if it became known that Mike died (which Saul would definitely hear about), there's no way Jesse and Saul wouldn't be able to piece that together.

Walt needs to make Mike disappear. Burying him in the desert is probably good enough for now. The problem is getting rid of the car.


Yeah I know, implausible. I was just trying to think of anything that connects those three photos. All three of them have Mike holding something in one hand, that's all I can tell that they have in common.

Ha, it's probably just a throw-away scene but it's always fun to speculate on little minutae. Only one more episode this year, may as well get a bit obsessive.
 
2012-08-27 12:09:16 PM
The Walt / Jesse relationship is more father / son than anything. Walt Jr. is damaged in Walt's eyes. He loves him, but he is never going to be the man that Walt wanted to carry on his legacy. Jesse is the son that Walt believes he should have had. That is what hurts him so much about seeing him respecting Mike, and why he refuses to let Jesse go.

As to hiding / disposing the body. Don't think Walt has to do either. Hank knows that some elements of the old Fring crew are still in business. He'll write it up to a drug hit because they were getting close too Mike, and in the words of Saul, anybody can be flipped. Walt's real issue is going to be with Jesse, because he will know, or Walt will tell him himself as a way to reassert his status as top dog.

Also, Todd. He's up to something and no way is as dumb as he is playing it.
 
2012-08-27 12:12:14 PM

jimpoz: Remember when Hank wanted to watch "Heat"?

"A guy told me one time, 'Don't let yourself* get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on** in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat*** around the corner.'"

* Mike
** his granddaughter
*** Albuquerque PD


Good one.

I felt that Mike would have at least called his son?/daughter? to pick her up.

If that was ever made known to us, let me know because I don't think it ever was.

That is a great movie .
 
2012-08-27 12:12:44 PM

Otto_E_Rodika: The Walt / Jesse relationship is more father / son than anything. Walt Jr. is damaged in Walt's eyes. He loves him, but he is never going to be the man that Walt wanted to carry on his legacy. Jesse is the son that Walt believes he should have had. That is what hurts him so much about seeing him respecting Mike, and why he refuses to let Jesse go.

As to hiding / disposing the body. Don't think Walt has to do either. Hank knows that some elements of the old Fring crew are still in business. He'll write it up to a drug hit because they were getting close too Mike, and in the words of Saul, anybody can be flipped. Walt's real issue is going to be with Jesse, because he will know, or Walt will tell him himself as a way to reassert his status as top dog.

Also, Todd. He's up to something and no way is as dumb as he is playing it.


Taking care of Mike's body would be more of an issue for Jesse and Saul than the DEA. If Mike is dead or on the run, the DEA would still be certain that there's more left of Fring's crew, and it wouldn't change their investigation all that much. However, if he turns up dead, Saul would find out (and tell Jesse). It would be obvious to both of them that Walt killed him. I don't think Walt can afford to have both Saul and Jesse turn on him. If he hides the body, then everybody just assumes things went as planned and Mike is in hiding.
 
2012-08-27 12:13:54 PM

rc3ntexas: jimpoz: Remember when Hank wanted to watch "Heat"?

"A guy told me one time, 'Don't let yourself* get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on** in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat*** around the corner.'"

* Mike
** his granddaughter
*** Albuquerque PD

Good one.

I felt that Mike would have at least called his son?/daughter? to pick her up.

If that was ever made known to us, let me know because I don't think it ever was.

That is a great movie .


Probably not necessary. The cops were all over the area, and were probably aware of the granddaughter. They'd simply take her down to the station and notify the parent. Mike new she'd be alright.
 
2012-08-27 12:14:01 PM

Trocadero: The reason Walt flips out and kills Mike is b/c Jesse respected and liked Mike more than Walt.


That's not why Walt killed Mike.

Am I even watching the same show as some of you people? I gotta be honest, I get a kick out of reading some of these theories, and agree it's fun to speculate, but holy cow some of you are out there. I'm just going to throw this out there: Walter White didn't buy a giagntic machine gun one year from now for an epic showdown with his wife and/or protege, yo.

All I can offer you is this: Whatever you're thinking? It's probably wrong. That's what's so great about this show, it's really hard to predict most things that happen. It wasn't just last week that half the people on here were predicting some sort of Epic showdown where Mike takes out walt to end the season or series.

But what happened? Everything and nothing instead. Mike didn't go out with a proverbial "bang," he went out with a wimper. There was no great reckoning, there was no epic showdown, no one got their come-uppance. Big, Bad Mike died a lonely old man staring at a river, having been shot by a former Chemistry teacher turned wannabe drug kingpin for little more than insulting his pride. How many of your called that for the penultimate episode of the second to last "season?" Not many, I bet.

Now, Say my name.
 
2012-08-27 12:16:25 PM

Confabulat: Yeah I know, implausible. I was just trying to think of anything that connects those three photos. All three of them have Mike holding something in one hand, that's all I can tell that they have in common.

Ha, it's probably just a throw-away scene but it's always fun to speculate on little minutae. Only one more episode this year, may as well get a bit obsessive.



I think it was just to illustrate the difference between the kind of cop who he is (which his obsessiveness was an asset), versus the role he has now as A.S.A.C. where it is a major liability. He's not a Cop anymore, he's a politician.
 
2012-08-27 12:16:54 PM

Trocadero: FinFangFark: EddieMoscone:

Jess will know it was Walt, and we'll end the 1st half with Jesse going after Skyler as payback, and Hank finding out it was Walt all along.


After the last looks between Skylar and Jesse at the car wash showed, I think it's dawned on both of them that they are two sides of the same coin; Walt's hostages. If anything, Jesse will help Skylar kill Walt or give her the means/info to disappear herself and her kids.

The second time I watched last night's episode, the more it looks like this whole damn show has been a big, crazy complicated love story between two men, Walt and Jesse. The reason Walt flips out and kills Mike is b/c Jesse respected and liked Mike more than Walt. You could see the lover's jealousy in those eyes looking out when Jesse shakes Mike's hand for the last time. The knowing glances between Skylar and Jesse, realizing they are in the same position. Hell, Walt seemed to get more pissed off when Gus tried to butter up Jesse than when Ted Beneke slept w/ his farking wife. He killed Gus, didn't kill Ted. The last real emotion Walt has shown to another character was when he accidentally called his son Jesse; those were real tears, not the crap Walt usually throws around Hank or Skylar. I'm betting some liberal arts professor who specializes in homosexual/relationship themes is writing a real doozy.


A lot of Walt's plan depends on Jesse. When Jesse doesn't follow Walt's plans, things get a little hectic for Walt. Walt has sought to not only control Jesse, but to prevent other people from influencing him as well. The motivation for this has changed over the course of the show. At first from some kind of admiration, and then from self preservation, and then from necessity. Kind of like Lord Krishna counsels Arjuna as a teacher, and a friend, and a master; Breaking Bad is the Bhagavad-Gita of the meth business.
 
2012-08-27 12:20:25 PM

Confabulat: I can't believe none of you are wondering what the hell Hank was seeing in those photos while his boss was trying to get his attention. I freeze framed them but couldn't see anything notable, but I am not a master detective like Hank.


I was watching that scene and thought the next pic would have Walt or Jessie with Mike.Then the Television started talking to Hank and he lost his train of thought so he quit looking at them.
 
2012-08-27 12:25:36 PM

Otto_E_Rodika: The Walt / Jesse relationship is more father / son than anything. Walt Jr. is damaged in Walt's eyes. He loves him, but he is never going to be the man that Walt wanted to carry on his legacy. Jesse is the son that Walt believes he should have had. That is what hurts him so much about seeing him respecting Mike, and why he refuses to let Jesse go.

As to hiding / disposing the body. Don't think Walt has to do either. Hank knows that some elements of the old Fring crew are still in business. He'll write it up to a drug hit because they were getting close too Mike, and in the words of Saul, anybody can be flipped. Walt's real issue is going to be with Jesse, because he will know, or Walt will tell him himself as a way to reassert his status as top dog.

Also, Todd. He's up to something and no way is as dumb as he is playing it.


Real good points. It's true, there's really nothing compelling Walter to do anything with Mike or the car, as long as there's nothing connecting Walter to the death.

And I said to my wife during Todd's first cooking experience, "That kid is major trouble."
 
2012-08-27 12:26:28 PM

rc3ntexas: Confabulat: I can't believe none of you are wondering what the hell Hank was seeing in those photos while his boss was trying to get his attention. I freeze framed them but couldn't see anything notable, but I am not a master detective like Hank.

I was watching that scene and thought the next pic would have Walt or Jessie with Mike.Then the Television started talking to Hank and he lost his train of thought so he quit looking at them.


I kind of thought he would see Mike with the laptop, and then notice no laptop in the inventory of his apartment... and then piece together the counter-surveillance thing. However, Walt took care of the bug issue pretty easily... almost too easy as it were.
 
2012-08-27 12:26:34 PM

desertmouse: Anyone have a picture of the cake popsicles? I'm wondering if they represent the characters in some way.


I don't think they look like any of the BB characters, but the one in the back row\far right sorta looks like Mr. Bill.

i.imgur.com

/OOOOOH NOOOOOOO
 
2012-08-27 12:27:46 PM
I'm split now on whether the flash-forward from the beginning of this season is from the end of the series or will be skipped to after the cliffhanger next week. Now that Mike is gone and Jesse is (for all intents and purposes) out of the meth business, Walt really doesn't have that many people left. All it would take would be Hank discovering Walt removing the bugs (there's a shot from the POV of what could be a security camera in Hank's office while Walt is removing the listening devices) and the death of either Skyler or Walt Jr. to send Walt into hiding, and that could easily in the span of a single episode.
 
2012-08-27 12:30:01 PM

The Homer Tax: Now, Say my name.


Douche. For using "penultimate," if nothing else.
 
2012-08-27 12:35:13 PM

daRog: desertmouse: Anyone have a picture of the cake popsicles? I'm wondering if they represent the characters in some way.

I don't think they look like any of the BB characters, but the one in the back row\far right sorta looks like Mr. Bill.

[i.imgur.com image 720x406]

/OOOOOH NOOOOOOO


Maybe they represent the loose ends left to clear up? I think there's 7 of Mike's guys left (accounting for the two that were already killed), plus Lydia.

Just a random guess based on the number of people there. You could also argue that the two pigs represent Hank and Gomez as DEA agents, with the rest of the group representing the body count through the rest of the series, or something.
 
2012-08-27 12:39:13 PM

elvisaintdead: Douche. For using "penultimate," if nothing else.


Sorry, I didn't know it was a douche word. I listen to a lot of podcasts, and read TV recaps for the shows I really like. The notion of the "Penultimate Episode" to a season is a common theme of one where someone dies, usually someone unsuspected and Important. It's most notable use was probably in every season of "The Wire," A.K.A the "Pelecanos Episode," named after the guy who usually wrote them.
 
2012-08-27 12:45:08 PM
We've now entered the "burning the furniture" phase of BB where all major characters are in play. I wouldn't put it past Gilligan to kill off Walt well before the series finale. Heisenberg is like the dread pirate Roberts -- a bogeyman to keep rivals in check. There's no reason Jesse can't become Heisenberg.

My theory? Through an incredible series of events Marie becomes the new Heisenberg and the blue meth starts coming out purple.
 
2012-08-27 12:53:21 PM

NeoCortex42: rc3ntexas: jimpoz: Remember when Hank wanted to watch "Heat"?

"A guy told me one time, 'Don't let yourself* get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on** in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat*** around the corner.'"

* Mike
** his granddaughter
*** Albuquerque PD

Good one.

I felt that Mike would have at least called his son?/daughter? to pick her up.

If that was ever made known to us, let me know because I don't think it ever was.

That is a great movie .

Probably not necessary. The cops were all over the area, and were probably aware of the granddaughter. They'd simply take her down to the station and notify the parent. Mike new she'd be alright.


I dunno,I mean if you have children the logical thing IMO would be to let the parents know where to pick up the child.It would be less drama for the child to have the parents pick her up in a park as opposed to being picked up in a police station.

This just how I feel.I don't know if have children and it's not my business to know.

That is the way I see the situation.If it was my daughter or grand daughter then I would feel like I should call someone.

Even the Actor said he felt like he would not have left his Grand Daughter alone.
 
2012-08-27 01:16:50 PM

daRog: desertmouse: Anyone have a picture of the cake popsicles? I'm wondering if they represent the characters in some way.

I don't think they look like any of the BB characters, but the one in the back row\far right sorta looks like Mr. Bill.

[i.imgur.com image 720x406]

/OOOOOH NOOOOOOO


Front and center could be a "meth-head"

Also, pig on the left is wearing the heisenberg hat (pork pie, heh.)
 
2012-08-27 01:56:26 PM
So why would the DEA send local PD to pick Mike up at the park? I would think they wouldn't want to share the kudos with some local amateurs in nabbing the guy who is their best bet at cracking the Heisenberg ring.
 
2012-08-27 01:59:29 PM

Trocadero: FinFangFark: EddieMoscone:

Jess will know it was Walt, and we'll end the 1st half with Jesse going after Skyler as payback, and Hank finding out it was Walt all along.


After the last looks between Skylar and Jesse at the car wash showed, I think it's dawned on both of them that they are two sides of the same coin; Walt's hostages. If anything, Jesse will help Skylar kill Walt or give her the means/info to disappear herself and her kids.

The second time I watched last night's episode, the more it looks like this whole damn show has been a big, crazy complicated love story between two men, Walt and Jesse. The reason Walt flips out and kills Mike is b/c Jesse respected and liked Mike more than Walt. You could see the lover's jealousy in those eyes looking out when Jesse shakes Mike's hand for the last time. The knowing glances between Skylar and Jesse, realizing they are in the same position. Hell, Walt seemed to get more pissed off when Gus tried to butter up Jesse than when Ted Beneke slept w/ his farking wife. He killed Gus, didn't kill Ted. The last real emotion Walt has shown to another character was when he accidentally called his son Jesse; those were real tears, not the crap Walt usually throws around Hank or Skylar. I'm betting some liberal arts professor who specializes in homosexual/relationship themes is writing a real doozy.


I think it's a father son thing. Walt wants a Michael to carry on his legacy, but Walt Jr is Fredo.
Jesse was abandonded by his father and always appreciates every little compliment Walt gives him. Like tonight when Walt told the Phoenix guys he and Jesse were the best meth cooks in America. Jesse had to thank him. Walt didn't want Jesse bonding with Mike for the simple reason he didn't want to lose his son. I think soon Walt will tell Skylar he wishes he had a son like Jesse, to help him, and that will push Skylar over the edge. She'll threaten to go to Hank to prevent Walt from destroying Walt Jr's life by pulling him into the business and Walt will kill her, making it look like suicide.

But what do I know. I also think Walt's return with the big time weapon is to break Jesse out of jail. Walt is arrogant enough to believe he could do it. He'll die in the process and the last shot will be a well disguised Jesse, sometime in the future, putting flowers on Walt's grave. Blue ones
 
2012-08-27 02:07:41 PM

The Homer Tax: Trocadero: The reason Walt flips out and kills Mike is b/c Jesse respected and liked Mike more than Walt.

That's not why Walt killed Mike.

Am I even watching the same show as some of you people? I gotta be honest, I get a kick out of reading some of these theories, and agree it's fun to speculate, but holy cow some of you are out there. I'm just going to throw this out there: Walter White didn't buy a giagntic machine gun one year from now for an epic showdown with his wife and/or protege, yo.

All I can offer you is this: Whatever you're thinking? It's probably wrong. That's what's so great about this show, it's really hard to predict most things that happen. It wasn't just last week that half the people on here were predicting some sort of Epic showdown where Mike takes out walt to end the season or series.

But what happened? Everything and nothing instead. Mike didn't go out with a proverbial "bang," he went out with a wimper. There was no great reckoning, there was no epic showdown, no one got their come-uppance. Big, Bad Mike died a lonely old man staring at a river, having been shot by a former Chemistry teacher turned wannabe drug kingpin for little more than insulting his pride. How many of your called that for the penultimate episode of the second to last "season?" Not many, I bet.

Now, Say my name.


He's going to blow up Grey Matter headquarters
 
2012-08-27 02:12:31 PM

daRog: desertmouse: Anyone have a picture of the cake popsicles? I'm wondering if they represent the characters in some way.

I don't think they look like any of the BB characters, but the one in the back row\far right sorta looks like Mr. Bill.

[i.imgur.com image 720x406]

/OOOOOH NOOOOOOO


Thanks for the pic guys. I was hoping the characters would be a bit more obvious -- maybe a line-up of the ones that die, but I guess that would have been giving away too much.

Mr. Bill in back reminds me of Gale. I hope it's not the ones who die since the second from right in front looks like baby Hope.
 
2012-08-27 02:13:07 PM
When it all comes down to it, Walt's life changed when he sold his share of Grey Matter.
He becomes more bitter each week he looks at the stock market and sees it become more expensive.

I can see him launching rockets at headquarters, or shooting guards with guns to get in to the boardroom and killing all the major shareholders including his 2 old friends.
 
2012-08-27 02:14:37 PM

ontariolightning: The Homer Tax: Trocadero: The reason Walt flips out and kills Mike is b/c Jesse respected and liked Mike more than Walt.

That's not why Walt killed Mike.

Am I even watching the same show as some of you people? I gotta be honest, I get a kick out of reading some of these theories, and agree it's fun to speculate, but holy cow some of you are out there. I'm just going to throw this out there: Walter White didn't buy a giagntic machine gun one year from now for an epic showdown with his wife and/or protege, yo.

All I can offer you is this: Whatever you're thinking? It's probably wrong. That's what's so great about this show, it's really hard to predict most things that happen. It wasn't just last week that half the people on here were predicting some sort of Epic showdown where Mike takes out walt to end the season or series.

But what happened? Everything and nothing instead. Mike didn't go out with a proverbial "bang," he went out with a wimper. There was no great reckoning, there was no epic showdown, no one got their come-uppance. Big, Bad Mike died a lonely old man staring at a river, having been shot by a former Chemistry teacher turned wannabe drug kingpin for little more than insulting his pride. How many of your called that for the penultimate episode of the second to last "season?" Not many, I bet.

Now, Say my name.

He's going to blow up Grey Matter headquarters


With a machine gun? He'd better hope there's lots of strategically placed barrels for him to shoot.
 
2012-08-27 02:15:22 PM
Walt's destiny is to become a psycho that CNN analysts analyzes for days after he's committed an atrocity and killed dozens of people, and then after a week, most of the nation will forget about him and then they'll move on to the next psychopath that commits an atrocity.
 
2012-08-27 02:16:28 PM

MagSeven: ontariolightning: The Homer Tax: Trocadero: The reason Walt flips out and kills Mike is b/c Jesse respected and liked Mike more than Walt.

That's not why Walt killed Mike.

Am I even watching the same show as some of you people? I gotta be honest, I get a kick out of reading some of these theories, and agree it's fun to speculate, but holy cow some of you are out there. I'm just going to throw this out there: Walter White didn't buy a giagntic machine gun one year from now for an epic showdown with his wife and/or protege, yo.

All I can offer you is this: Whatever you're thinking? It's probably wrong. That's what's so great about this show, it's really hard to predict most things that happen. It wasn't just last week that half the people on here were predicting some sort of Epic showdown where Mike takes out walt to end the season or series.

But what happened? Everything and nothing instead. Mike didn't go out with a proverbial "bang," he went out with a wimper. There was no great reckoning, there was no epic showdown, no one got their come-uppance. Big, Bad Mike died a lonely old man staring at a river, having been shot by a former Chemistry teacher turned wannabe drug kingpin for little more than insulting his pride. How many of your called that for the penultimate episode of the second to last "season?" Not many, I bet.

Now, Say my name.

He's going to blow up Grey Matter headquarters

With a machine gun? He'd better hope there's lots of strategically placed barrels for him to shoot.


That's all he'd really need to get in the board room of Grey Matter and kill or injure everyone there
 
2012-08-27 02:19:29 PM

ontariolightning: When it all comes down to it, Walt's life changed when he sold his share of Grey Matter.
He becomes more bitter each week he looks at the stock market and sees it become more expensive.

I can see him launching rockets at headquarters, or shooting guards with guns to get in to the boardroom and killing all the major shareholders including his 2 old friends.


Nah, I think it would be more about trying to "get the girl." Didn't he have a big-time crush on one of the guy's wives? That's why he sold his share in the first place, because of that conflict.
 
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