Actually I had a question about that long shot of walt pulling up in his 300, the very long shot with all those trees. Was that supposed to spell something/represent something?

Walt's goose is cooked. Did no-one else not see the camera angle when Gomie arrives at Hank's office to tell him about Mike's warrant--right after Walt removed the bugs. It was from up in the corner of the room, where a cam might be. Walt's on tape removing the bugs and Hank looking at the tape will be next week's climax.

MagSeven: There has to be more going on in Todd's head than what we are privy to.

I wouldn't be surprised if Todd is writing down the Meth recipe and then is going to try and sell it to the Phoenix crew. With Jesse, Walt had loyalty I can't see Todd be loyal to anyone, and with Mike out the the picture, there's no one to keep him in line..

drongozone: Walt's goose is cooked. Did no-one else not see the camera angle when Gomie arrives at Hank's office to tell him about Mike's warrant--right after Walt removed the bugs. It was from up in the corner of the room, where a cam might be. Walt's on tape removing the bugs and Hank looking at the tape will be next week's climax.

Yeah, I noticed that, too. It's the exact angle you'd expect from a security camera.

I don't usually comment in these threads, though I do read every comment every monday because I love the analysis. Well, most of the time.

Nobody's mentioned it yet, but, what happens next? Does Walter turn Mike into soup like all the others and bury the barrel of Mike soup in the desert? What about Mike's car? If Walter doesn't turn Mike into Mike soup, does he make Mike's death look like a suicide? The motive is there, but what about the forensics? It'll be obvious Mike was shot through the car window, and from a distance. No way that wound was self-inflicted. He'd have to enlist Todd to assist in disposal, at least of Mike. Can't just saws-all a car and put that in a barrel and make car soup, can you?

Confabulat: I can't believe none of you are wondering what the hell Hank was seeing in those photos while his boss was trying to get his attention. I freeze framed them but couldn't see anything notable, but I am not a master detective like Hank.

I thought that the last one he looked at was Mike sitting at the table in the diner (from the first or second episode this season). There is a woman standing in the picture, with her back to the camera, presumably walking towards the table. I think that the woman is Lydia, the attorney for Madrigal. (This was the meeting where she freaked out and told Mike he needed to kill his crew). My guess is that Hank eventually figures this out and then leans on Lydia for information. Given her disposition, she likely will spill the beans on her involvement in providing methylamine to Walter & Jesse.

EddieMoscone: I don't usually comment in these threads, though I do read every comment every monday because I love the analysis. Well, most of the time.

Nobody's mentioned it yet, but, what happens next? Does Walter turn Mike into soup like all the others and bury the barrel of Mike soup in the desert? What about Mike's car? If Walter doesn't turn Mike into Mike soup, does he make Mike's death look like a suicide? The motive is there, but what about the forensics? It'll be obvious Mike was shot through the car window, and from a distance. No way that wound was self-inflicted. He'd have to enlist Todd to assist in disposal, at least of Mike. Can't just saws-all a car and put that in a barrel and make car soup, can you?

I think Walt will lapse back into simple Walt for a brief moment. Realizing what he's done, and forget to properly dispose of Mike. Then there will be a news story on someone finding Mike's body. Jess will know it was Walt, and we'll end the 1st half with Jesse going after Skyler as payback, and Hank finding out it was Walt all along.

I had put my money on Jesse dying at the end of the 1st half, but with Mike killed by Walt's hand, I see Jesse and Walt being the penultimate conflict going into what the 1 year flash forward is all about.

Mike made the piss-poor decision of having Walt get his travel bag instead of Jesse. Why would Mike trust Walt for anything at that point, when the only chemistry Walt is good at is turning everything into shiat.

Mike made a biggie-sized mistake and got what he deserved

Confabulat: I can't believe none of you are wondering what the hell Hank was seeing in those photos while his boss was trying to get his attention. I freeze framed them but couldn't see anything notable, but I am not a master detective like Hank.

I don't think he was looking at anything specific. I think he was just lost in thought, thinking "why can't I get anything on this guy?" instead of listening to his boss, which led to his boss chewing him out for his costly obsession with Mike.

EddieMoscone: I don't usually comment in these threads, though I do read every comment every monday because I love the analysis. Well, most of the time.

Nobody's mentioned it yet, but, what happens next? Does Walter turn Mike into soup like all the others and bury the barrel of Mike soup in the desert? What about Mike's car? If Walter doesn't turn Mike into Mike soup, does he make Mike's death look like a suicide? The motive is there, but what about the forensics? It'll be obvious Mike was shot through the car window, and from a distance. No way that wound was self-inflicted. He'd have to enlist Todd to assist in disposal, at least of Mike. Can't just saws-all a car and put that in a barrel and make car soup, can you?

Maybe he'll take Mike and his car to the guy that crushes cars (the guy Walt and co. bought the magnet from).

FinFangFark: EddieMoscone:

Jess will know it was Walt, and we'll end the 1st half with Jesse going after Skyler as payback, and Hank finding out it was Walt all along.


After the last looks between Skylar and Jesse at the car wash showed, I think it's dawned on both of them that they are two sides of the same coin; Walt's hostages. If anything, Jesse will help Skylar kill Walt or give her the means/info to disappear herself and her kids.

The second time I watched last night's episode, the more it looks like this whole damn show has been a big, crazy complicated love story between two men, Walt and Jesse. The reason Walt flips out and kills Mike is b/c Jesse respected and liked Mike more than Walt. You could see the lover's jealousy in those eyes looking out when Jesse shakes Mike's hand for the last time. The knowing glances between Skylar and Jesse, realizing they are in the same position. Hell, Walt seemed to get more pissed off when Gus tried to butter up Jesse than when Ted Beneke slept w/ his farking wife. He killed Gus, didn't kill Ted. The last real emotion Walt has shown to another character was when he accidentally called his son Jesse; those were real tears, not the crap Walt usually throws around Hank or Skylar. I'm betting some liberal arts professor who specializes in homosexual/relationship themes is writing a real doozy.

Why put your go bag in a place that is unretrieveable when you have to go?

The Walt / Jesse relationship is more father / son than anything. Walt Jr. is damaged in Walt's eyes. He loves him, but he is never going to be the man that Walt wanted to carry on his legacy. Jesse is the son that Walt believes he should have had. That is what hurts him so much about seeing him respecting Mike, and why he refuses to let Jesse go.

As to hiding / disposing the body. Don't think Walt has to do either. Hank knows that some elements of the old Fring crew are still in business. He'll write it up to a drug hit because they were getting close too Mike, and in the words of Saul, anybody can be flipped. Walt's real issue is going to be with Jesse, because he will know, or Walt will tell him himself as a way to reassert his status as top dog.

Also, Todd. He's up to something and no way is as dumb as he is playing it.

Trocadero: The reason Walt flips out and kills Mike is b/c Jesse respected and liked Mike more than Walt.

That's not why Walt killed Mike.

Am I even watching the same show as some of you people? I gotta be honest, I get a kick out of reading some of these theories, and agree it's fun to speculate, but holy cow some of you are out there. I'm just going to throw this out there: Walter White didn't buy a giagntic machine gun one year from now for an epic showdown with his wife and/or protege, yo.

All I can offer you is this: Whatever you're thinking? It's probably wrong. That's what's so great about this show, it's really hard to predict most things that happen. It wasn't just last week that half the people on here were predicting some sort of Epic showdown where Mike takes out walt to end the season or series.

But what happened? Everything and nothing instead. Mike didn't go out with a proverbial "bang," he went out with a wimper. There was no great reckoning, there was no epic showdown, no one got their come-uppance. Big, Bad Mike died a lonely old man staring at a river, having been shot by a former Chemistry teacher turned wannabe drug kingpin for little more than insulting his pride. How many of your called that for the penultimate episode of the second to last "season?" Not many, I bet.

Now, Say my name.

Confabulat: Yeah I know, implausible. I was just trying to think of anything that connects those three photos. All three of them have Mike holding something in one hand, that's all I can tell that they have in common.

Ha, it's probably just a throw-away scene but it's always fun to speculate on little minutae. Only one more episode this year, may as well get a bit obsessive.


I think it was just to illustrate the difference between the kind of cop who he is (which his obsessiveness was an asset), versus the role he has now as A.S.A.C. where it is a major liability. He's not a Cop anymore, he's a politician.

Otto_E_Rodika: The Walt / Jesse relationship is more father / son than anything. Walt Jr. is damaged in Walt's eyes. He loves him, but he is never going to be the man that Walt wanted to carry on his legacy. Jesse is the son that Walt believes he should have had. That is what hurts him so much about seeing him respecting Mike, and why he refuses to let Jesse go.

As to hiding / disposing the body. Don't think Walt has to do either. Hank knows that some elements of the old Fring crew are still in business. He'll write it up to a drug hit because they were getting close too Mike, and in the words of Saul, anybody can be flipped. Walt's real issue is going to be with Jesse, because he will know, or Walt will tell him himself as a way to reassert his status as top dog.

Also, Todd. He's up to something and no way is as dumb as he is playing it.

Real good points. It's true, there's really nothing compelling Walter to do anything with Mike or the car, as long as there's nothing connecting Walter to the death.

And I said to my wife during Todd's first cooking experience, "That kid is major trouble."

elvisaintdead: Douche. For using "penultimate," if nothing else.

Sorry, I didn't know it was a douche word. I listen to a lot of podcasts, and read TV recaps for the shows I really like. The notion of the "Penultimate Episode" to a season is a common theme of one where someone dies, usually someone unsuspected and Important. It's most notable use was probably in every season of "The Wire," A.K.A the "Pelecanos Episode," named after the guy who usually wrote them.

We've now entered the "burning the furniture" phase of BB where all major characters are in play. I wouldn't put it past Gilligan to kill off Walt well before the series finale. Heisenberg is like the dread pirate Roberts -- a bogeyman to keep rivals in check. There's no reason Jesse can't become Heisenberg.

My theory? Through an incredible series of events Marie becomes the new Heisenberg and the blue meth starts coming out purple.

daRog: desertmouse: Anyone have a picture of the cake popsicles? I'm wondering if they represent the characters in some way.

I don't think they look like any of the BB characters, but the one in the back row\far right sorta looks like Mr. Bill.

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/OOOOOH NOOOOOOO

Front and center could be a "meth-head"

Also, pig on the left is wearing the heisenberg hat (pork pie, heh.)

So why would the DEA send local PD to pick Mike up at the park? I would think they wouldn't want to share the kudos with some local amateurs in nabbing the guy who is their best bet at cracking the Heisenberg ring.

The Homer Tax: Trocadero: The reason Walt flips out and kills Mike is b/c Jesse respected and liked Mike more than Walt.

That's not why Walt killed Mike.

Am I even watching the same show as some of you people? I gotta be honest, I get a kick out of reading some of these theories, and agree it's fun to speculate, but holy cow some of you are out there. I'm just going to throw this out there: Walter White didn't buy a giagntic machine gun one year from now for an epic showdown with his wife and/or protege, yo.

All I can offer you is this: Whatever you're thinking? It's probably wrong. That's what's so great about this show, it's really hard to predict most things that happen. It wasn't just last week that half the people on here were predicting some sort of Epic showdown where Mike takes out walt to end the season or series.

But what happened? Everything and nothing instead. Mike didn't go out with a proverbial "bang," he went out with a wimper. There was no great reckoning, there was no epic showdown, no one got their come-uppance. Big, Bad Mike died a lonely old man staring at a river, having been shot by a former Chemistry teacher turned wannabe drug kingpin for little more than insulting his pride. How many of your called that for the penultimate episode of the second to last "season?" Not many, I bet.

Now, Say my name.

He's going to blow up Grey Matter headquarters

When it all comes down to it, Walt's life changed when he sold his share of Grey Matter.
He becomes more bitter each week he looks at the stock market and sees it become more expensive.

I can see him launching rockets at headquarters, or shooting guards with guns to get in to the boardroom and killing all the major shareholders including his 2 old friends.

Walt's destiny is to become a psycho that CNN analysts analyzes for days after he's committed an atrocity and killed dozens of people, and then after a week, most of the nation will forget about him and then they'll move on to the next psychopath that commits an atrocity.

MagSeven: ontariolightning: The Homer Tax: Trocadero: The reason Walt flips out and kills Mike is b/c Jesse respected and liked Mike more than Walt.

That's not why Walt killed Mike.

Am I even watching the same show as some of you people? I gotta be honest, I get a kick out of reading some of these theories, and agree it's fun to speculate, but holy cow some of you are out there. I'm just going to throw this out there: Walter White didn't buy a giagntic machine gun one year from now for an epic showdown with his wife and/or protege, yo.

All I can offer you is this: Whatever you're thinking? It's probably wrong. That's what's so great about this show, it's really hard to predict most things that happen. It wasn't just last week that half the people on here were predicting some sort of Epic showdown where Mike takes out walt to end the season or series.

But what happened? Everything and nothing instead. Mike didn't go out with a proverbial "bang," he went out with a wimper. There was no great reckoning, there was no epic showdown, no one got their come-uppance. Big, Bad Mike died a lonely old man staring at a river, having been shot by a former Chemistry teacher turned wannabe drug kingpin for little more than insulting his pride. How many of your called that for the penultimate episode of the second to last "season?" Not many, I bet.

Now, Say my name.

He's going to blow up Grey Matter headquarters

With a machine gun? He'd better hope there's lots of strategically placed barrels for him to shoot.

That's all he'd really need to get in the board room of Grey Matter and kill or injure everyone there