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(Detroit Free Press)   Tropical Storm Isaac set to strike New Orleans as Hurricane Isaac on the 7th anniversary of Hurricane Katrina. This is Obama's Katrina   (freep.com) divider line 401
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2012-08-26 08:21:43 PM
yawn
except that tampa isnt NOLA and obama isnt bush
and whoever is running fema is over 9000 times more qualified than that brown POS who was in charge during fema

so yes
this is just like that
 
2012-08-26 08:26:37 PM
Not even close
 
2012-08-26 08:36:26 PM

namatad: except that tampa isnt NOLA and obama isnt bush


Um, did you miss the part that it's supposed to hit NOLA and not Tampa?

Other than that, I agree.
 
2012-08-26 08:38:53 PM
And the whole country will see Obama doing 100X better job than Bush ever did.
 
2012-08-26 08:58:43 PM

Ambivalence: And the whole country will see Obama doing 100X better job than Bush ever did.


Trust me, there will be some incident of looting, or a FEMA water delivery that doesn't get through or an evacuation center that wasn't properly staffed and FOX, et al will spin it incessantly as an Obama failure.
 
2012-08-26 09:02:56 PM

Ambivalence: And the whole country will see Obama doing 100X better job than Bush ever did.


I just find it hilarious how 1) it is a proven fact the Democrats have a hurricane machine, and 2) there have been more hurricanes in the last four years than there were at any point under Bush. It is called the "false flag" policy. You use the hurricane machine to destroy a major American city and people will vote for you. But the only storm surge they will get is the storm surge of higher taxes and government regulation. Do you get what I am trying to say?
 
2012-08-26 09:06:51 PM

Mike_LowELL: Do you get what I am trying to say?


No.
 
2012-08-26 09:12:44 PM
God I hope it'll never be as bad a Katrina in any city in the US.

/ever again
 
2012-08-26 09:15:03 PM
I wonder if he will do a fly-over... or shoot a message from NOLA with a lovely white spire in the background. (or was that Iraq? I cannot remember)

I guess the big question, well two questions are:

How much will the bowl fill with water?

Did we learn anything from the last time?
 
2012-08-26 09:15:32 PM
So far it's Jindals Katrina. Don't think he's requested federal assistance yet.
 
2012-08-26 09:17:13 PM
Godspeed Lootie!
 
2012-08-26 09:18:30 PM

silo123j: I wonder if he will do a fly-over... or shoot a message from NOLA with a lovely white spire in the background. (or was that Iraq? I cannot remember)

I guess the big question, well two questions are:

How much will the bowl fill with water?

Did we learn anything from the last time?


Pretty sure NOLA got a couple hundred billion (of fed$) to rebuild levees and get new pumps.
 
2012-08-26 09:19:04 PM

doyner: Mike_LowELL: Do you get what I am trying to say?

No.


Just go with it, man. It's like an acid trip, it's worse if you fight it.
 
2012-08-26 09:24:24 PM
When Katrina came through the straits, she had a well defined, very symmetrical inflow and outflow and a deeper pressure than Issac. This will be nothing like Katrina, no matter where it makes landfall.
 
2012-08-26 09:25:25 PM

cretinbob: When Katrina came through the straits, she had a well defined, very symmetrical inflow and outflow and a deeper pressure than Issac. This will be nothing like Katrina, no matter where it makes landfall.


That sounds hot.
 
2012-08-26 09:32:26 PM
You people are just so farking sad.
 
2012-08-26 09:32:34 PM
I am wondering if they have rebuilt all the levees to the specifications they need. Last I remembered, they could only repel something closer to a CAT3. And, with the full moon coming this next week, the tides will not be in their favor.

\sidenote, anyone heard Jimmy Buffett's "Breathe In Breathe Out Move On." Really interesting take on Katrina.
\\Feel for them
\\\ Slashies for levees.
\\\\ Damn, now I have Zeppelin in my head.
 
2012-08-26 09:34:35 PM

Mugato: You people are just so farking sad.


Whaddya mean, "you people"?
 
2012-08-26 09:41:52 PM
I understand that any tropical system in the vicinity of New Orleans is something for them to keep an eye on, but is this supposed to be any stronger than a Cat 1 at landfall? I'm getting the feeling that the news media is hyping this storm up to proportions that far exceed its actual strength. Then again, if there's anything stations like the Weather Channel love, it's the chance to pimp some disaster porn on the nation.
 
2012-08-26 09:48:19 PM
BTW Jim Cantore is in New Orleans.....
 
2012-08-26 09:49:23 PM
Sort of sad that folks are hoping for disaster...
 
2012-08-26 09:50:09 PM
And there's the mayor again saying "well, yeah, it's a state of emergency but it's not, like, an EMERGENCY emergency, so shelter in place".

Shelter in place, below sea level. Sounds like a plan.
 
2012-08-26 09:53:47 PM
But New Orleans now has a vanilla mayor.

/Landrieu looks like he's as dumb as Nagin was.
 
2012-08-26 09:54:41 PM

hubiestubert: Sort of sad that folks are hoping for disaster...


Better than flirting with it, I suppose?
 
2012-08-26 09:56:03 PM

basemetal: God I hope it'll never be as bad a Katrina in any city in the US.

/ever again


pro-tip take away... Stop electing Bush league Republicans...
 
2012-08-26 10:07:41 PM

WhyteRaven74: BTW Jim Cantore is in New Orleans.....


That's never a good sign.
 
2012-08-26 10:08:27 PM

propasaurus: Ambivalence: And the whole country will see Obama doing 100X better job than Bush ever did.

Trust me, there will be some incident of looting, or a FEMA water delivery that doesn't get through or an evacuation center that wasn't properly staffed and FOX, et al will spin it incessantly as an Obama failure.


I"m sure he won't be spending the disaster having cake with a senator or watching some guy playing a guitar with a presidential seal.

Bush couldn't even pretend to be interested until almost a week after the disaster happened. Obama is no George W Bush.
 
2012-08-26 10:09:56 PM

cameroncrazy1984: hubiestubert: Sort of sad that folks are hoping for disaster...

Better than flirting with it, I suppose?


Hey, if they didn't WANT a hurricane, they wouldn't be dressed like that...
 
2012-08-26 10:10:20 PM

Coco LaFemme: I understand that any tropical system in the vicinity of New Orleans is something for them to keep an eye on, but is this supposed to be any stronger than a Cat 1 at landfall? I'm getting the feeling that the news media is hyping this storm up to proportions that far exceed its actual strength. Then again, if there's anything stations like the Weather Channel love, it's the chance to pimp some disaster porn on the nation.


It's currently projected to be a "strong cat 2" hurricane by the time it reaches the gulf coast. Currently...projected.
 
2012-08-26 10:11:04 PM

namatad: yawn
except that tampa isnt NOLA and obama isnt bush
and whoever is running fema is over 9000 times more qualified than that brown POS who was in charge during fema

so yes
this is just like that


Do you know what FEMA does? If you knew, you would know why you are wrong. FEMA is not a first responder. FEMA moves in after the damage is done to help assess damage and assist in processing payments to contractors that are involved in clean up, restoration, and rebuilding.
 
2012-08-26 10:11:38 PM

WhyteRaven74: BTW Jim Cantore is in New Orleans.....


Well, if the Angel of Death is in town, that means the entire city will be leveled. They never send him anywhere unless something bad is going to happen.
 
2012-08-26 10:13:09 PM

PreMortem: So far it's Jindals Katrina. Don't think he's requested federal assistance yet.


Hehasto declare a state of emergency first. This has been done in FL and MS
 
2012-08-26 10:14:48 PM

Ambivalence: Coco LaFemme: I understand that any tropical system in the vicinity of New Orleans is something for them to keep an eye on, but is this supposed to be any stronger than a Cat 1 at landfall? I'm getting the feeling that the news media is hyping this storm up to proportions that far exceed its actual strength. Then again, if there's anything stations like the Weather Channel love, it's the chance to pimp some disaster porn on the nation.

It's currently projected to be a "strong cat 2" hurricane by the time it reaches the gulf coast. Currently...projected.


So, it'll be a legitimate hurricane?
 
2012-08-26 10:17:11 PM

Coco LaFemme: Well, if the Angel of Death is in town, that means the entire city will be leveled. They never send him anywhere unless something bad is going to happen.


I remember when the big blizzard hit Chicago, as soon as I saw he was here I knew it was going to be bad. It ended up being the third greatest single storm snowfall in the history of Chicago.
 
2012-08-26 10:23:39 PM

WhyteRaven74: Coco LaFemme: Well, if the Angel of Death is in town, that means the entire city will be leveled. They never send him anywhere unless something bad is going to happen.

I remember when the big blizzard hit Chicago, as soon as I saw he was here I knew it was going to be bad. It ended up being the third greatest single storm snowfall in the history of Chicago.


I don't know if this story is true or just apocryphal, but quite a few years ago, Jim Cantore and his family were going on vacation and one of the passengers happened to notice him and started freaking out, concerned that if they were both headed to the same place, that meant some ginormous hurricane was close behind. The story goes that he had to reassure her that he was on vacation, not assignment, and that nothing was coming.

I can't imagine it feels good to know that when people see you somewhere, they automatically assume some devastating weather event is about to happen. Hopefully he has a sense of humor about it, otherwise it would probably drive him insane.
 
2012-08-26 10:31:30 PM

EnviroDude: Do you know what FEMA does? If you knew, you would know why you are wrong. FEMA is not a first responder. FEMA moves in after the damage is done to help assess damage and assist in processing payments to contractors that are involved in clean up, restoration, and rebuilding.


So...the Federal Emergency Management Agency doesn't actually manage emergencies, they just pay money to people who do? So who does the actual management of emergencies if not the Federal Emergency Management Agency? Sure FEMA isn't a first responder, but someone has to be responsible for coordinating the response. If not FEMA, who?
 
2012-08-26 10:33:44 PM

Richard Saunders: So, it'll be a legitimate hurricane?


Only if it doesn't penetrate the levees. Levees have a way of shutting down legitimate hurricanes. If the levees fall then the town must have wanted to be flooded.

(I am going to feel really bad if that actually does happen)
 
2012-08-26 10:41:55 PM
FTFA: Other models show the storm going farther east - to the Mississippi and Alabama Gulf coasts, which were also slammed hard by Katrina. Biloxi, Miss., is near the center of where the various computer models predict Isaac will strike.

upload.wikimedia.org

THIS IS MATTHEW BRODERICK'S KATRINA
 
2012-08-26 10:46:00 PM

WhyteRaven74: BTW Jim Cantore is in New Orleans.....


i411.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-26 10:59:48 PM

EnviroDude: namatad: yawn
except that tampa isnt NOLA and obama isnt bush
and whoever is running fema is over 9000 times more qualified than that brown POS who was in charge during fema

so yes
this is just like that

Do you know what FEMA does? If you knew, you would know why you are wrong. FEMA is not a first responder. FEMA moves in after the damage is done to help assess damage and assist in processing payments to contractors that are involved in clean up, restoration, and rebuilding.


Yet FEMA is already there. So, if not first on scene, then who was?
 
2012-08-26 11:00:40 PM

Coco LaFemme: . Hopefully he has a sense of humor about it,


I'm sure he has a sense of humor about it. I'd be willing to bet that's why he keeps going around like he does.
 
2012-08-26 11:05:16 PM

propasaurus: Ambivalence: And the whole country will see Obama doing 100X better job than Bush ever did.

Trust me, there will be some incident of looting, or a FEMA water delivery that doesn't get through or an evacuation center that wasn't properly staffed and FOX, et al will spin it incessantly as an Obama failure.


One FEMA worker who wants Obama to look bad and doesn't care if people die of thirst is all it will take.

Fortunately there's no one who would ever do that.
 
2012-08-26 11:05:48 PM

EnviroDude:
Do you know what FEMA does? If you knew, you would know why you are wrong. FEMA is not a first responder. FEMA moves in after the damage is done to help assess damage and assist in processing payments to contractors that are involved in clean up, restoration, and rebuilding.


The primary purpose of FEMA is to coordinate the response to a disaster that has occurred in the United States and that overwhelms the resources of local and state authorities
 
2012-08-26 11:06:46 PM

Mike_LowELL: Ambivalence: And the whole country will see Obama doing 100X better job than Bush ever did.

I just find it hilarious how 1) it is a proven fact the Democrats have a hurricane machine, and 2) there have been more hurricanes in the last four years than there were at any point under Bush. It is called the "false flag" policy. You use the hurricane machine to destroy a major American city and people will vote for you. But the only storm surge they will get is the storm surge of higher taxes and government regulation. Do you get what I am trying to say?


I'm either inadequately high or this guy is chasing unicorns.
 
2012-08-26 11:07:32 PM

PreMortem: So far it's Jindals Katrina. Don't think he's requested federal assistance yet.


Gustav was Jindal's Katrina, and his performance far exceeded Governor Blanco in that regard. Of course, you know, politics is the most important thing in all of this.
 
2012-08-26 11:09:00 PM
Ambivalence: So...the Federal Emergency Management Agency doesn't actually manage emergencies, they just pay money to people who do? So who does the actual management of emergencies if not the Federal Emergency Management Agency? Sure FEMA isn't a first responder, but someone has to be responsible for coordinating the response. If not FEMA, who?

Actually, FEMA does manage emergencies. They only do so, on the other hand, after receiving a formal request from the State to do so. Their main mission is to empower State and Local response and emergency management agencies to handle as much in-house as possible, and to - at the very least - be able to perform continuity of emergency operations for at least 36 to 72 hours until Federal and State Mutual Aid Assets can be established in the area.

There is a whole, bureaucratically complicated system called the National Incident Management System in placed, based on the Incident Command System, which manages how FEMA interacts with local and state responders, and how and when they can step in.

It's an open and free course, and if you really want to learn more about how and why FEMA does what it does the way it does, it's an eyeopener.

http://training.fema.gov/EMIWeb/is/is700a.asp

They are not intended to be an Weeners agency. That duty falls to the local, regional, and state emergency teams, and the surrounding state mutual aid agencies.
 
2012-08-26 11:12:52 PM

BronyMedic: They are not intended to be an Weeners agency.


No one claimed that they were.

/snark
 
2012-08-26 11:14:18 PM
doyner: BronyMedic: They are not intended to be an Weeners agency.

No one claimed that they were.

/snark


Oh, damn you filter! *shakes tiny fist*

That was supposed to be initial responder.
 
2012-08-26 11:15:38 PM

Bontesla: I'm either inadequately high or this guy is chasing unicorns.


Or your sarcasm meter needs calibrating
 
2012-08-26 11:15:52 PM

PreMortem: So far it's Jindals Katrina. Don't think he's requested federal assistance yet.


Jindal has already issued bootstraps to New Orleans residents and told the Feds to stay out!
 
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