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2012-08-26 04:48:22 PM  
Busted?

I anticipate on supplying it.
 
2012-08-26 04:57:39 PM  
Yes, strap a sandwich board to your kid and humiliate him in public for an hour or so. That will absolutely set up a dynamic of trust.
 
2012-08-26 04:58:30 PM  
This will in no way backfire.
 
2012-08-26 05:03:45 PM  
Hopefully he learns a very important lesson and is much more inconspicuous with his weed from here on in.
 
2012-08-26 05:04:15 PM  

MacEnvy: This will in no way backfire.


Yeah. I see that kid, I'm asking him to hook me up.

I consider this to be a form of advertising instead of any sort of punishment.
 
2012-08-26 05:16:59 PM  

Vodka Zombie: Yeah. I see that kid, I'm asking him to hook me up.


Just look for the guy down the street with the sign that reads "Cheap Eighths, Fair Weights"
 
2012-08-26 05:55:27 PM  
Mom "He's a great kid, does good in school...."

Not anymore he wont. He's gonna be farked with by the other kids for years.
 
2012-08-26 06:36:55 PM  
biatch.
 
2012-08-26 08:12:09 PM  

Bob_Laublaw: Hopefully he learns a very important lesson and is much more inconspicuous with his weed from here on in.


Yes, he will definitely learn to hide parts of his life from his parents much better from here on out.
 
2012-08-26 08:12:13 PM  
On the plus side, at least he now has motivation to hide his weed better
 
2012-08-26 08:19:29 PM  
I watched the video with the sound off. For a punishment, the kid and the mom seem to be smiling a lot.
 
2012-08-26 08:25:19 PM  
I bet that punishment would have been a lot more fun stoned...
 
2012-08-26 08:28:29 PM  
I wonder if anyone rolled up and handed him a nug for later...
 
2012-08-26 08:29:03 PM  

Bob_Laublaw: Hopefully he learns a very important lesson and is much more inconspicuous with his weed from here on in.


I would HOPE that's what he learns.
 
2012-08-26 08:29:40 PM  
What's the deal with the "Marriage would have saved the kids" sign guy at the I405 NE8 intersection in Bellevue? I've seen him a couple times and can't figure out what he's trying to protest.
 
2012-08-26 08:30:33 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-26 08:31:30 PM  
I know a girl who got busted for shoplifting & her dad made her wear a sign that said "I'm a thief" outside the courthouse.... she never did it again. And still speaks to her Dad.
 
2012-08-26 08:33:17 PM  
I cannot if this is effective or not for this child, but it is not what I would do to my son. Maybe this is what would work for him, but it would work for my kid
 
2012-08-26 08:34:02 PM  
Will smoke for food.
 
2012-08-26 08:34:38 PM  
Yeah, heaven forbid that the mother dish out any punishment. I mean, the kid may grow up without and consequence for his actions and end up on the government dole.
 
2012-08-26 08:35:10 PM  
If I was the kid I'd write. "So if you want to know where to score a gramme call me" on the bottom of the sign.
 
2012-08-26 08:36:09 PM  
Fair enough. If she doesn't want her kid smoking weed, that's up to her.
 
2012-08-26 08:36:33 PM  
I'd have packed a one-hitter before going to serve my sentence. Stuff really takes the edge off in stressful situations.
 
2012-08-26 08:37:11 PM  
Caught smoking pot? Four days on pedophile island.

/greater good
 
2012-08-26 08:38:39 PM  
I'm okay with this.
 
2012-08-26 08:39:49 PM  

bluefox3681: Yeah, heaven forbid that the mother dish out any punishment. I mean, the kid may grow up without and consequence for his actions and end up on the government dole.


Or, you know, she could have just grounded him, taken away the cell phone, PS3/Xbox/Wii, and computer, and made him come straight home after school for a week or two with no free time allowed to be spent with friends.

I do think it's funny that the sign includes the "...got caught" it does sort of imply that the pot smoking is OK as long as no one finds out.
 
2012-08-26 08:40:33 PM  
If you need to resort to public humiliation to discipline your child, you've already failed as a parent.

assets.nydailynews.com
 
2012-08-26 08:40:41 PM  
fark that coont biatch.
 
2012-08-26 08:40:49 PM  
It is not clear whether he was busted just by her or actually has pending charges. If it was just by her it would in her interest and the kids' to just shut up about it.
 
2012-08-26 08:41:49 PM  


I GOT CAUGHT
GAVING SEX

Not being punished
just bragging.
\O/
|
/\

 
2012-08-26 08:42:36 PM  
He should wait until she leaves, then switch the sign to:

"I SMOKED A BLUNT
MY MOM'S A C*NT"
 
2012-08-26 08:44:41 PM  
Have him get me some
 
2012-08-26 08:44:58 PM  
In all seriousness, I do not think the kid will do it again. Yeah, she may be a biatch, but I can guarantee you that he stops it.
 
2012-08-26 08:45:49 PM  
While an idiotic "punishment", it by no means puts her into the running for MOTY.

/A better punishment would be to force him to research and write an essay about the dangers of smoking.
//Of course, the mother probably thinks it's worse than it actually is... but, hey, then she can learn something too.
 
2012-08-26 08:46:15 PM  
FTA: "Time outs and taking things away just doesn't work any more. Sometimes a little public humility is what they need nowadays to get a point across. If this works for him and maybe saves one or two other students from thinking about picking this stuff up, then I feel like I've done my job as a parent," said April Mathison

thelaughingstork.com
 
2012-08-26 08:47:16 PM  
South Carolina, where Reagan is still the Prez...and they like it that way.
 
2012-08-26 08:53:36 PM  
Funny how when someone steals and they make them wear a sign it's perfectly ok. But when a thirteen year old gets busted smoking pot all of a sudden it's bad parenting. My son just turned 13. If I caught him smoking he'd definitely be grounded for a long time. And if I caught him a second time? You bet your sweet ass he'd be standing outside with a sandwich board. Good job on mom for not just turning a blind eye. I know it's "just pot", but he's only thirteen god damn years old.
 
2012-08-26 08:53:50 PM  
My kid? "Wait until the law is changed, dummy. Yes, it's a stupid law. Yes, I disagree with it. But it is the law, and until it's changed you can be arrested and go to jail for breaking it."
 
2012-08-26 08:54:34 PM  
At least he has a common enough name this probably won't haunt him in his future job/college applications.
 
2012-08-26 08:55:25 PM  
When I was in the first grade my mopther caught me lying about something and put a sign around my neck saying "Don't trust me I am a liar'" and sent me off to school. Needless to say I did not want to go to school like that but she forced me to leave. I walked to the end of the driveway and stood there in tears for a while till mom figured I had had learned a lesson and called me back, took off the sign and sent me to school. Yes I learned a lesson and was very careful about the telling the truth from that day on. Of course I have lied since then, everyone lies, but usually only to people who were a-holes and didn't deserve the truth.
 
2012-08-26 08:56:34 PM  

Notabunny: My kid? "Wait until the law is changed, dummy. Yes, it's a stupid law. Yes, I disagree with it. But it is the law, and until it's changed you can be arrested and go to jail for breaking it."


YOU ALRIGHT?! I LEARNED IT BY WATCHING YOU!
 
2012-08-26 08:57:06 PM  
The thing is this mother, I'm guessing, is in her 30's..let's just say 35. That would mean that she graduated high school in 1995! That was a short time ago; what happened so quickly to make her out of touch with youth?

My point being that she should have a fairly recent perspective of the teenage mindset and it would be much more effective to emphasize the reasons why she thinks pot isn't a good idea for a 13-year-old; for example bad for brain/body development, with tangible examples.

By adopting a "pot is bad/you're bad" stance and humiliating him, she sets the wall between them even higher which may increase the chances of a rebellious teenager doing even more drugs.
 
2012-08-26 08:57:42 PM  

srtpointman: Funny how when someone steals and they make them wear a sign it's perfectly ok. But when a thirteen year old gets busted smoking pot all of a sudden it's bad parenting. My son just turned 13. If I caught him smoking he'd definitely be grounded for a long time. And if I caught him a second time? You bet your sweet ass he'd be standing outside with a sandwich board. Good job on mom for not just turning a blind eye. I know it's "just pot", but he's only thirteen god damn years old.


THIS! And I smoke a hell of a lot of the wacky backy. He's too young. I think it should be legal and all, but only 18 and up.
 
2012-08-26 09:01:10 PM  
When I was young, being caught by my parents just made me better at hiding it.

/caught once
 
2012-08-26 09:01:21 PM  
Normally the Fark Righteous Indignation Brigade spends its time biatching about mothers that don't discipline their kids for breaking the rules. This mom punishes her kid in a creative and non-violent way for breaking both her rules and Federal law, and you guys go apeshiat? Wow.
 
2012-08-26 09:01:46 PM  
Congrats, kid. Thanks to your mom, you just pre-flunked every job interview in town.

/"Hey, that's the sandwich board kid. Don't waste money on a drug screening, just go to the next candidate."
 
2012-08-26 09:02:18 PM  

Shakespeare's Sister: I cannot if this is effective or not for this child, but it is not what I would do to my son. Maybe this is what would work for him, but it would work for my kid


Are you sure your his sister?
 
2012-08-26 09:02:53 PM  
I love the hypocrisy here.

If a kid breaks the law and the parents do nothing, there's outrage on Fark.

If a kid breaks the law and the parents do something, there's outrage on Fark.

If his mom caught him smoking, then he's obviously not very smart, and it's only a matter of time before he gets in legal trouble over it, which will be an expensive pain in the ass for his parents. That's probably why they're stopping it now.
 
2012-08-26 09:03:01 PM  
damnit, you're
 
2012-08-26 09:03:28 PM  
i49.tinypic.com
/obligatory
//safe for network tv version
 
2012-08-26 09:04:23 PM  
Good.
 
2012-08-26 09:04:45 PM  
Stupid tag is for submitter?

Ringo48: I love the hypocrisy here.

If a kid breaks the law and the parents do nothing, there's outrage on Fark.

If a kid breaks the law and the parents do something, there's outrage on Fark.

If his mom caught him smoking, then he's obviously not very smart, and it's only a matter of time before he gets in legal trouble over it, which will be an expensive pain in the ass for his parents. That's probably why they're stopping it now.


This^
 
2012-08-26 09:06:43 PM  
Holy shiat people, RTFA. The kid wants to stop. It worked. Every kid is different and parents have to discipline them as best they see fit.
 
2012-08-26 09:06:45 PM  

Ringo48: If a kid breaks the law and the parents do something, there's outrage on Fark.


I just can't see why she decided to make it so public that a potential future employer can likely find this article. Yeah, most will be cool since he's only 13 and decide it's something funny and not a red flag. But, it still could cost him with some employers in the future.

What if he wants to apply for the FBI or something in the future? I'm pretty sure they still view any drug use, no matter the circumstances, as a really bad thing.
 
2012-08-26 09:08:41 PM  

Vodka Zombie: MacEnvy: This will in no way backfire.

Yeah. I see that kid, I'm asking him to hook me up.

I consider this to be a form of advertising instead of any sort of punishment.


I just assumed the mom was a dealer and this was her cunning plan.
 
2012-08-26 09:09:12 PM  

davidphogan: I'm pretty sure they still view any drug use, no matter the circumstances, as a really bad thing.


No. They won't. But lying about it in the background check, would. No job.
 
2012-08-26 09:13:20 PM  
Do not care to do it myself...
But would like to track the transactions of a sign holder.

Need xxxxx, food, money, beer, rent, clothes, whatever. Praise the lord and mister Ford.

/and yes, accept debit cards, swipe here.
 
2012-08-26 09:15:51 PM  

bluefox3681: Yeah, heaven forbid that the mother dish out any punishment. I mean, the kid may grow up without and consequence for his actions and end up on the government dole.


You do realize that there's an entire spectrum of possible actions between "Do nothing and never do nothing" and "Public humiliation", do you not? Do you realize that one of these things is considered a human rights violation?

But please, don't let the facts get in the way of your haughty, imaginary strawman.
 
2012-08-26 09:22:56 PM  

EdgeRunner: Congrats, kid. Thanks to your mom, you just pre-flunked every job interview in town.

/"Hey, that's the sandwich board kid. Don't waste money on a drug screening, just go to the next candidate."


Because all interviewers google all applicants before hiring them.

I used to do hiring for a company I used to work at. My rule of thumb was if someone had a police record from when they were a minor, and it was only a one time offense, I'd still consider them for the job. The only thing that was an instant no go was felons. Even if they were 13 when convicted and it was a one time offense, I could not hire them. This won't keep him from getting hired on at Jack in the Box or Wal-Mart. Hell, even if he was googled by an employer 15 years from now and this was found and between then and now he graduated from high school and then college and got his Bachelors then this story wouldn't cause him to fail his interview.
 
2012-08-26 09:24:47 PM  
When I was in elementary school I had a teacher that made a tail out of yarn and made me wear it for being a "tattle tail." I told on some kid that was stealing from another kid. It was pretty humiliating, and I sure learned my lesson.

/snitches get stitches
//this was like 25 years ago so they didn't call in the 5-0 on the other kid
 
2012-08-26 09:26:28 PM  
What's the harm? Listening to the pro-legalization crowd, occasional marijuana usage doesn't cause any long term damage. Why punish him at all?
 
2012-08-26 09:32:04 PM  
It's not even public humiliation. Half the people driving by probably honked and gave him a thumbs-up.
 
2012-08-26 09:32:12 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: bluefox3681: Yeah, heaven forbid that the mother dish out any punishment. I mean, the kid may grow up without and consequence for his actions and end up on the government dole.

Or, you know, she could have just grounded him, taken away the cell phone, PS3/Xbox/Wii, and computer, and made him come straight home after school for a week or two with no free time allowed to be spent with friends.

I do think it's funny that the sign includes the "...got caught" it does sort of imply that the pot smoking is OK as long as no one finds out.


Maybe that was the point.

A little humiliation from one's parents is easier to get through than what cops would do to him. The punishment sends a clear message that he is not being careful enough, an if he doesn't shap up, he'll end up in real trouble.
 
2012-08-26 09:33:18 PM  

pedrop357: What's the harm? Listening to the pro-legalization crowd, occasional marijuana usage doesn't cause any long term damage. Why punish him at all?


Or you can see that most of the legalize crowd call for it to be legal for adults over the age of 18. Which this kid isn't.

/ put that in your pipe and smoke it
 
2012-08-26 09:33:21 PM  
Mom's like that are what drives kids to start smoking pot in the first place. It's a vicious cycle.
 
2012-08-26 09:35:57 PM  

pedrop357: What's the harm? Listening to the pro-legalization crowd, occasional marijuana usage doesn't cause any long term damage. Why punish him at all?


1. It may be less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes, true...but it's still currently illegal
2. Even if it wasn't, 13-year olds are typically ill-equipped to do anything in moderation
3. See 1
4. As long as the kid lives in the parents' house for free, parents set the rules, this mom is not okay with marijuana use, end of story
5. See 1
 
2012-08-26 09:46:37 PM  
 
2012-08-26 09:49:14 PM  
I don't give a shiate about this low-budget press-seeking Kardashian or her Doobie Brother son but if I ever have kids they will be wearing sandwich boards and wander around in fenced in corral...because I had to change a diaper ONCE! 
 
Okay three times but one time IT WASN'T MY DIAPER!
 
2012-08-26 09:49:43 PM  

rustik: When I was in elementary school I had a teacher that made a tail out of yarn and made me wear it for being a "tattle tail." I told on some kid that was stealing from another kid. It was pretty humiliating, and I sure learned my lesson.


Stealing money from someone else is not the same as doing drugs: one violates the rights of others, and one is (except in certain cases) self-harm. While we have the right to decide what to do with our own persons, violating the rights of others should never be acceptable. Society is behooved when people speak out or act against those who violate the rights of others. Your teacher was idiotic and tried to teach you an idiotic lesson.

rustik: /snitches get stitches


... Succeeded in teaching you an idiotic lesson.
 
2012-08-26 09:49:46 PM  
If there was ever a time to leave the house
/walking out with suit case
/mom: where you going?
/kid: *lights one up* "to the moon, mom, to the moon"
 
2012-08-26 09:55:21 PM  
My step mom did shiat like this... I have not spoken with her in 10 years (outside of work) because of her "tough love"- We work in the same place, but her pot smoking step-son makes about double her salary as a server admin. AND that pisses her off too.

/Going to burn one now... and count mah money.
 
2012-08-26 10:01:02 PM  

davidphogan: Ringo48: If a kid breaks the law and the parents do something, there's outrage on Fark.

I just can't see why she decided to make it so public that a potential future employer can likely find this article. Yeah, most will be cool since he's only 13 and decide it's something funny and not a red flag. But, it still could cost him with some employers in the future.

What if he wants to apply for the FBI or something in the future? I'm pretty sure they still view any drug use, no matter the circumstances, as a really bad thing.


There's no way this druggie kid is going to aspire to anything other than low-level food service positions, or possibly janitorial work.
 
2012-08-26 10:05:29 PM  

Fark Angelic Choir: . As long as the kid lives in the parents' house for free, parents set the rules, this mom is not okay with marijuana use, end of story


I wasn't aware that 13 year olds actually had any real choice in where they live.
 
2012-08-26 10:05:38 PM  

namegoeshere: I bet that punishment would have been a lot more fun stoned...


Everything is more fun... on weed.
 
2012-08-26 10:07:19 PM  

MixedNut: When I was in the first grade my mopther caught me lying about something and put a sign around my neck saying "Don't trust me I am a liar'" and sent me off to school. Needless to say I did not want to go to school like that but she forced me to leave. I walked to the end of the driveway and stood there in tears for a while till mom figured I had had learned a lesson and called me back, took off the sign and sent me to school. Yes I learned a lesson and was very careful about the telling the truth from that day on. Of course I have lied since then, everyone lies, but usually only to people who were a-holes and didn't deserve the truth.


Your lying arent you?
 
2012-08-26 10:16:31 PM  

MacEnvy: This will in no way backfire.


Can't wait for the "I'm an alcoholic" or "I'm a cheating whore, my husband kicked me out" etched into her car.

MixedNut: Of course I have lied since then, everyone lies, but usually only to people who were a-holes and didn't deserve the truth.


The great thing is, 99.9% of people are assholes.
 
2012-08-26 10:19:08 PM  

Begoggle: Stupid tag is for submitter?

Ringo48: I love the hypocrisy here.

If a kid breaks the law and the parents do nothing, there's outrage on Fark.

If a kid breaks the law and the parents do something, there's outrage on Fark.

If his mom caught him smoking, then he's obviously not very smart, and it's only a matter of time before he gets in legal trouble over it, which will be an expensive pain in the ass for his parents. That's probably why they're stopping it now.

This^


This times a million. Farking teenagers. As for mine, I've already told him if he gets arrested, he better like jail because I'm not bailing him out. I don't care what your opinion is about marijuana (and mine are very liberal), teenagers should not be getting high. They already make enough bad decisions without throwing in weed, booze or anything else that alters the mind.
 
2012-08-26 10:23:14 PM  
https://www.facebook.com/april.j.mathison

I believe this is her Facebook. She runs a sex shop....(if thats her)
 
2012-08-26 10:26:58 PM  
The stupid kid could have set the house on fire.
So next time snort coke.
 
2012-08-26 10:35:11 PM  

Godscrack: Mom "He's a great kid, does good in school...."

Not anymore he wont. He's gonna be farked with by the other kids for years.


So the pot smoking isn't affecting how he does in school. Why humiliate him?
 
2012-08-26 10:36:22 PM  

truthseeker2083: Or you can see that most of the legalize crowd call for it to be legal for adults over the age of 18. Which this kid isn't.


The issue of people under 21 (which is the usual age in any proposal) is what's kept me from giving more support to legalization groups.

Here we have people telling us (and I agree) that marijuana is less harmful then tobacco or alcohol, is not addictive, is not a gateway drug, effectively has no lethal dose, etc. AND they tell us the drug war (either as a whole or as it pertains to marijuana) is abusive, counterproductive, corrosive to a free society, expensive and needlessly wasteful of resources (police power, court time, money, etc.), THEN they propose to remove most or all of those onerous things from adults and leave them intact as applied to young people.

Young people would still face fines, jail time, drivers' license suspensions, 18-20 year olds still face asset seizures, lifelong criminal records, etc., all of which are considered appalling when done to people over 21. Invasions like drug testing could still be aimed at students (and potentialy workers) under 21.

All the legalization movement largely seems to do is say is "Leave us adults alone, and spend your time going after them (teenagers)" which is cowardly and immoral on its face and outright cruel when considering that the types of policies left intact to be aimed at those young people are the same ones attacked as unjust when aimed at adults.

The day one of these attempts to legalize marijuana succeeds will be a sorry day for middle and high school students. All those drug war resources aren't going to go anywhere, they're just going to spend more time tossing lockers and running drug dogs through schools, the labs that used to drug test adults will have a lot more free time to test chess club members and you can bet that "random" drug testing will become even more accessible in terms of time and money. The worst part is, they'll find more. Not just because they're looking more, but because marijuana will become even more accessible due to the ease of adults in obtaining it.

You can claim conspiracy if you want, but I've yet to see a single drug legalization proposal that does anything to ease the burden of drug prohibition on young people, that calls for a 'stand down' in terms of resources, or does anything to ensure that young people won't get two to three times more drug war aimed solely at them.

As long as the drug legalization movement keeps pushing "adults only" proposals that either actively push more burden on or fail to protect from burden shifting towards young people, then I unfortunately and sadly hope that they fail. Until people realize that this kind of crap is intolerable and immoral no matter who it's aimed at, then I support the shiatty status quo where everyone gets farked somewhat equally.
 
2012-08-26 10:43:24 PM  
Wow you can tell the potheads from the parents pretty easily in this thread (and you can spot the pothead parents just as easily).
 
2012-08-26 10:44:55 PM  
What she should have done is bought an ounce and mafde him sit there until he smoked the hole damn thing. That would have really lerned him good, yuk
 
2012-08-26 10:47:06 PM  
People that smoke pot are possessed by Satan. Drink alcohol like good little sheep.
 
2012-08-26 10:47:42 PM  
kid seems like a douche, has that douche bag walk
 
2012-08-26 10:47:48 PM  

SquiggelyGrounders: What she should have done is bought an ounce and mafde him sit there until he smoked the hole damn thing. That would have really lerned him good, yuk


That would probably backfire. He buys a dime, mom catches and buys him an ounce to smoke?

If you want less of something, you're not supposed to reward it. Now if she made him smoke the ounce and then kept all the food away from him, that might be a punishment.
 
2012-08-26 10:50:33 PM  

pedrop357: What's the harm? Listening to the pro-legalization crowd, occasional marijuana usage doesn't cause any long term damage. Why punish him at all?


I think it is bad for developing brains. Best to wait until your twenties before trying it.
 
2012-08-26 10:54:45 PM  
Without pot, the majority of your favorite music, video games, and animated TV shows would not have been made (or be as enjoyable).
 
2012-08-26 11:15:00 PM  
Same mother will be a-ok with prescribing Adderall, Wellbutrin, Ritalin etc...
 
2012-08-26 11:15:49 PM  

davidphogan: Ringo48: If a kid breaks the law and the parents do something, there's outrage on Fark.

I just can't see why she decided to make it so public that a potential future employer can likely find this article. Yeah, most will be cool since he's only 13 and decide it's something funny and not a red flag. But, it still could cost him with some employers in the future.

What if he wants to apply for the FBI or something in the future? I'm pretty sure they still view any drug use, no matter the circumstances, as a really bad thing.


Drug use isn't even illegal. Possession of it is. Furthermore, the FBI probably wouldn't care.
 
2012-08-26 11:19:04 PM  

NetOwl: I do think it's funny that the sign includes the "...got caught" it does sort of imply that the pot smoking is OK as long as no one finds out.

Maybe that was the point.

A little humiliation from one's parents is easier to get through than what cops would do to him. The punishment sends a clear message that he is not being careful enough, an if he doesn't shap up, he'll end up in real trouble.


To me, it illustrates that the worst thing that can and will happen if you smoke pot is that you'll get caught. If he doesn't stop, "he'll end up in real trouble" not because marijuana will fark you up or make you crash your car or jump off a building, but because someone more powerful than Mom and Dad will catch you.
 
2012-08-26 11:19:42 PM  
The parent is another exhibit in the long line of things called "What's wrong with the South". Also acceptable are "Why we can't have nice things in the South" and "A family tree spared by William T. Sherman".
 
2012-08-26 11:20:42 PM  

apathy2673: Same mother will be a-ok with prescribing Adderall, Wellbutrin, Ritalin etc...


Knowing her, she'd rather have the child kidnapped, shipped off to Utah, then flown to some Third World hellhole friendly to their kind.
 
2012-08-26 11:34:54 PM  
Using shame and humiliation as punishment on children usually causes them to grow up to have very low self esteem.
 
2012-08-26 11:43:38 PM  

fzumrk: /obligatory
//safe for network tv version


Actually that's what the sign really said, according to IMDB. Walking around Harlem with the other sammich board would get him killed, Bruce Willis or not.


/came for this and Menedez bros. pic
 
2012-08-26 11:49:48 PM  
Only if he stole it from my stash.

The former Ms. Slam found my son's stash, chewed my ass about it. I took it from her, sat on the deck, and smoked it right in front of them.

She never bothered me about it again, he learned to hide it better.
 
2012-08-26 11:53:20 PM  
"He was like....
I was like ........
What the Fark were they 'like'??
Illiterate whore!
 
2012-08-27 12:05:42 AM  

pedrop357: truthseeker2083: Or you can see that most of the legalize crowd call for it to be legal for adults over the age of 18. Which this kid isn't.

The issue of people under 21 (which is the usual age in any proposal) is what's kept me from giving more support to legalization groups.

Here we have people telling us (and I agree) that marijuana is less harmful then tobacco or alcohol, is not addictive, is not a gateway drug, effectively has no lethal dose, etc. AND they tell us the drug war (either as a whole or as it pertains to marijuana) is abusive, counterproductive, corrosive to a free society, expensive and needlessly wasteful of resources (police power, court time, money, etc.), THEN they propose to remove most or all of those onerous things from adults and leave them intact as applied to young people.

Young people would still face fines, jail time, drivers' license suspensions, 18-20 year olds still face asset seizures, lifelong criminal records, etc., all of which are considered appalling when done to people over 21. Invasions like drug testing could still be aimed at students (and potentialy workers) under 21.

All the legalization movement largely seems to do is say is "Leave us adults alone, and spend your time going after them (teenagers)" which is cowardly and immoral on its face and outright cruel when considering that the types of policies left intact to be aimed at those young people are the same ones attacked as unjust when aimed at adults.

The day one of these attempts to legalize marijuana succeeds will be a sorry day for middle and high school students. All those drug war resources aren't going to go anywhere, they're just going to spend more time tossing lockers and running drug dogs through schools, the labs that used to drug test adults will have a lot more free time to test chess club members and you can bet that "random" drug testing will become even more accessible in terms of time and money. The worst part is, they'll find more. Not jus ...


One thing at a time. Remind me again of the life long criminal record you see for a kid caught smoking a cigarette. I know it will probably be worse than that, but lets have one step at a time. Its the attitude of "if we can't do it perfect, lets never do it" that slows this down. When have you ever seen anything implemented properly the first go round? That is why you work toward change, then improve it.
 
2012-08-27 12:06:20 AM  
Seems like he got the message that there will be unpleasant consequences for his bad decisions. I'm not really understanding all the negativity.
 
2012-08-27 12:10:08 AM  
Sometimes a parent does everything they can and nothing works with a kid.

I'mokwiththis.jpg
 
2012-08-27 12:15:49 AM  
Yes, Fark whiners, because MORE "hands off" style Meh parenting is EXACTLY what this THIRTEEN year old child needs.
 
2012-08-27 12:16:39 AM  
Also? I'mokaywiththis.jpg
 
2012-08-27 12:17:57 AM  
Trolling inane comments....

Kids caught drinking a beer at 15... Wtf, drink when you ate 21. No billboard needed.
Kids caught smoking a cig... Wtf, smoke when you are old enough to vote. No billboard needed.
Anyone caught... Wtf. Age limitation needed.
 
2012-08-27 12:22:49 AM  

Godscrack: Mom "He's a great kid, does good in school...."

Not anymore he wont. He's gonna be farked with by the other kids for years.


That's life. I'm surprised at the number of 'no consequences' coddlers in here.
 
2012-08-27 12:24:25 AM  

Beaver Knievel: Yes, Fark whiners, because MORE "hands off" style Meh parenting is EXACTLY what this THIRTEEN year old child needs.


Gimme a break. Pure obviously not a real parent.

We parents are deathly afraid of being caught raising our hand to our spawn. Only in the privacy of our home can we even think of spanking.

I was at Target and some nosy woman yelled at me for raising my voice at my son. RAISING MY VOICE. Seriously dude. I hadn't even given him a slap on the face or twisted his arm to stop him from squirming.

Times are different. Parents can't discipline kids in public anymore. Just saying.
 
2012-08-27 12:25:25 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Beaver Knievel: Yes, Fark whiners, because MORE "hands off" style Meh parenting is EXACTLY what this THIRTEEN year old child needs.

Gimme a break. Pure obviously not a real parent.

We parents are deathly afraid of being caught raising our hand to our spawn. Only in the privacy of our home can we even think of spanking.

I was at Target and some nosy woman yelled at me for raising my voice at my son. RAISING MY VOICE. Seriously dude. I hadn't even given him a slap on the face or twisted his arm to stop him from squirming.

Times are different. Parents can't discipline kids in public anymore. Just saying.


You're obviously not a parent...

Ftfm
 
2012-08-27 12:25:49 AM  

rustik: When I was in elementary school I had a teacher that made a tail out of yarn and made me wear it for being a "tattle tail." I told on some kid that was stealing from another kid. It was pretty humiliating, and I sure learned my lesson.

/snitches get stitches
//this was like 25 years ago so they didn't call in the 5-0 on the other kid


Was the other kid's mom friends with the teacher? Or were you the opposite of a 'teacher's pet'? It's okay to be the opposite of a teacher's pet. Most teachers are human, and therefore they're shiat for brains about the impact of their favoritism on their young charges.
 
2012-08-27 12:26:23 AM  

Beaver Knievel: Yes, Fark whiners, because MORE "hands off" style Meh parenting is EXACTLY what this THIRTEEN year old child needs.


Another f*cktard who thinks there's a dichotomy between "public humiliation" and "zero punishment".
 
2012-08-27 12:28:11 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: I'm surprised at the number of 'no consequences' coddlers in here.


And another one. Who here was calling for "no consequences"?

I gladly give both of your parents a huge FAIL because they raised kids that can't even comprehend the concept of nuance!
 
2012-08-27 12:30:36 AM  

TsukasaK: Beaver Knievel: Yes, Fark whiners, because MORE "hands off" style Meh parenting is EXACTLY what this THIRTEEN year old child needs.

Another f*cktard who thinks there's a dichotomy between "public humiliation" and "zero punishment".


Beaver Knieval is right, not a fktard.
Public humiliation works.
When it doesn 't work, then the kid is practicing open defiance (good for them) and has to learn the consequences of open defiance, be it good (continued attention) or eveil (continued bad attention).
She and his father didn't beat his ass into next Sunday, then call it a day.
She and his father sure as hell didn't go the 'buddy with our kids' route, thank god.
It's not for the rest of his life.
He can straight up and fly right, or face additional consequences.
 
2012-08-27 12:30:38 AM  

Rockstone: Drug use isn't even illegal. Possession of it is.


Yeah, I heard that from my friend Wesley who also told me that income taxes are optional.
 
2012-08-27 12:33:28 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: TsukasaK: Beaver Knievel: Yes, Fark whiners, because MORE "hands off" style Meh parenting is EXACTLY what this THIRTEEN year old child needs.

Another f*cktard who thinks there's a dichotomy between "public humiliation" and "zero punishment".

Beaver Knieval is right, not a fktard.
Public humiliation works.
When it doesn 't work, then the kid is practicing open defiance (good for them) and has to learn the consequences of open defiance, be it good (continued attention) or eveil (continued bad attention).
She and his father didn't beat his ass into next Sunday, then call it a day.
She and his father sure as hell didn't go the 'buddy with our kids' route, thank god.
It's not for the rest of his life.
He can straight up and fly right, or face additional consequences.


I may be four shafts to the wind. But that doesn't make the least amount of sense.
 
2012-08-27 12:34:01 AM  

cwheelie: I know a girl who got busted for shoplifting & her dad made her wear a sign that said "I'm a thief" outside the courthouse.... she never got caught again. And still speaks to her Dad.


TIFIFY
 
2012-08-27 12:35:09 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Public humiliation works.


So does beating the shiat out of your kids. What's your point? It's still reprehensible to do. There are other things you can do that, again don't "go the buddy with our kids" route.

Are you that f*cking braindead that you can't see that there are a ton of possible punishments that aren't anywhere near human rights violations?
 
2012-08-27 12:38:05 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Beaver Knievel: Yes, Fark whiners, because MORE "hands off" style Meh parenting is EXACTLY what this THIRTEEN year old child needs.

Gimme a break. Pure obviously not a real parent.

We parents are deathly afraid of being caught raising our hand to our spawn. Only in the privacy of our home can we even think of spanking.

I was at Target and some nosy woman yelled at me for raising my voice at my son. RAISING MY VOICE. Seriously dude. I hadn't even given him a slap on the face or twisted his arm to stop him from squirming.

Times are different. Parents can't discipline kids in public anymore. Just saying.


Raise your hand to another human being that's attempted assault and as a society we throw you in prison to be raped like the little biatch you are. What kind of man hits someone weaker than him? A pathetic excuse for one that's what kind. You want to use violence to teach someone a lesson, I'm pretty sure Bubba has quite a few to teach you, so bend over.
 
2012-08-27 12:40:20 AM  

Mr. Carpenter: AverageAmericanGuy: Beaver Knievel: Yes, Fark whiners, because MORE "hands off" style Meh parenting is EXACTLY what this THIRTEEN year old child needs.

Gimme a break. Pure obviously not a real parent.

We parents are deathly afraid of being caught raising our hand to our spawn. Only in the privacy of our home can we even think of spanking.

I was at Target and some nosy woman yelled at me for raising my voice at my son. RAISING MY VOICE. Seriously dude. I hadn't even given him a slap on the face or twisted his arm to stop him from squirming.

Times are different. Parents can't discipline kids in public anymore. Just saying.

Raise your hand to another human being that's attempted assault and as a society we throw you in prison to be raped like the little biatch you are. What kind of man hits someone weaker than him? A pathetic excuse for one that's what kind. You want to use violence to teach someone a lesson, I'm pretty sure Bubba has quite a few to teach you, so bend over.


Right. Rape is an appropriate means of correction.

What the fark is wrong with you, dude.
 
2012-08-27 12:43:36 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Mr. Carpenter: AverageAmericanGuy: Beaver Knievel: Yes, Fark whiners, because MORE "hands off" style Meh parenting is EXACTLY what this THIRTEEN year old child needs.

Gimme a break. Pure obviously not a real parent.

We parents are deathly afraid of being caught raising our hand to our spawn. Only in the privacy of our home can we even think of spanking.

I was at Target and some nosy woman yelled at me for raising my voice at my son. RAISING MY VOICE. Seriously dude. I hadn't even given him a slap on the face or twisted his arm to stop him from squirming.

Times are different. Parents can't discipline kids in public anymore. Just saying.

Raise your hand to another human being that's attempted assault and as a society we throw you in prison to be raped like the little biatch you are. What kind of man hits someone weaker than him? A pathetic excuse for one that's what kind. You want to use violence to teach someone a lesson, I'm pretty sure Bubba has quite a few to teach you, so bend over.

Right. Rape is an appropriate means of correction.

What the fark is wrong with you, dude.


Oh you're an idiot. Let me spell it out for you. If you think violence is an acceptable form of correction for a child, then what's good for the goose is good for the gander. We as a society do not condone it, so welcome to rapesville, population you!
 
2012-08-27 12:45:27 AM  

Mr. Carpenter: AverageAmericanGuy: Mr. Carpenter: AverageAmericanGuy: Beaver Knievel: Yes, Fark whiners, because MORE "hands off" style Meh parenting is EXACTLY what this THIRTEEN year old child needs.

Gimme a break. Pure obviously not a real parent.

We parents are deathly afraid of being caught raising our hand to our spawn. Only in the privacy of our home can we even think of spanking.

I was at Target and some nosy woman yelled at me for raising my voice at my son. RAISING MY VOICE. Seriously dude. I hadn't even given him a slap on the face or twisted his arm to stop him from squirming.

Times are different. Parents can't discipline kids in public anymore. Just saying.

Raise your hand to another human being that's attempted assault and as a society we throw you in prison to be raped like the little biatch you are. What kind of man hits someone weaker than him? A pathetic excuse for one that's what kind. You want to use violence to teach someone a lesson, I'm pretty sure Bubba has quite a few to teach you, so bend over.

Right. Rape is an appropriate means of correction.

What the fark is wrong with you, dude.

Oh you're an idiot. Let me spell it out for you. If you think violence is an acceptable form of correction for a child, then what's good for the goose is good for the gander. We as a society do not condone it, so welcome to rapesville, population you!


Spanking = rape

Do I have that right, you farking weirdo fetishist?
 
2012-08-27 12:48:19 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Mr. Carpenter: AverageAmericanGuy: Mr. Carpenter: AverageAmericanGuy: Beaver Knievel: Yes, Fark whiners, because MORE "hands off" style Meh parenting is EXACTLY what this THIRTEEN year old child needs.

Gimme a break. Pure obviously not a real parent.

We parents are deathly afraid of being caught raising our hand to our spawn. Only in the privacy of our home can we even think of spanking.

I was at Target and some nosy woman yelled at me for raising my voice at my son. RAISING MY VOICE. Seriously dude. I hadn't even given him a slap on the face or twisted his arm to stop him from squirming.

Times are different. Parents can't discipline kids in public anymore. Just saying.

Raise your hand to another human being that's attempted assault and as a society we throw you in prison to be raped like the little biatch you are. What kind of man hits someone weaker than him? A pathetic excuse for one that's what kind. You want to use violence to teach someone a lesson, I'm pretty sure Bubba has quite a few to teach you, so bend over.

Right. Rape is an appropriate means of correction.

What the fark is wrong with you, dude.

Oh you're an idiot. Let me spell it out for you. If you think violence is an acceptable form of correction for a child, then what's good for the goose is good for the gander. We as a society do not condone it, so welcome to rapesville, population you!

Spanking = rape

Do I have that right, you farking weirdo fetishist?


I'm afraid child abuse is especially looked down on in prison, so you're probably going to have to put up with quite a bit more than just Bubba. And is "squirming" the same as "being hit by a man 7 times your size" until you've "learned your lesson."

The fact is, if you accept violence as a valid form of correction, than not only are you a farking moron (it's not nearly as effective and far less so than other forms of correction) but you're also a pussy.
 
2012-08-27 12:50:32 AM  

Mr. Carpenter: AverageAmericanGuy: Mr. Carpenter: AverageAmericanGuy: Mr. Carpenter: AverageAmericanGuy: Beaver Knievel: Yes, Fark whiners, because MORE "hands off" style Meh parenting is EXACTLY what this THIRTEEN year old child needs.

Gimme a break. Pure obviously not a real parent.

We parents are deathly afraid of being caught raising our hand to our spawn. Only in the privacy of our home can we even think of spanking.

I was at Target and some nosy woman yelled at me for raising my voice at my son. RAISING MY VOICE. Seriously dude. I hadn't even given him a slap on the face or twisted his arm to stop him from squirming.

Times are different. Parents can't discipline kids in public anymore. Just saying.

Raise your hand to another human being that's attempted assault and as a society we throw you in prison to be raped like the little biatch you are. What kind of man hits someone weaker than him? A pathetic excuse for one that's what kind. You want to use violence to teach someone a lesson, I'm pretty sure Bubba has quite a few to teach you, so bend over.

Right. Rape is an appropriate means of correction.

What the fark is wrong with you, dude.

Oh you're an idiot. Let me spell it out for you. If you think violence is an acceptable form of correction for a child, then what's good for the goose is good for the gander. We as a society do not condone it, so welcome to rapesville, population you!

Spanking = rape

Do I have that right, you farking weirdo fetishist?

I'm afraid child abuse is especially looked down on in prison, so you're probably going to have to put up with quite a bit more than just Bubba. And is "squirming" the same as "being hit by a man 7 times your size" until you've "learned your lesson."

The fact is, if you accept violence as a valid form of correction, than not only are you a farking moron (it's not nearly as effective and far less so than other forms of correction) but you're also a pussy.


I'll take my chances, you non-breeder.
 
2012-08-27 12:50:35 AM  
It's the debbil's weed, my son. Mankind was meant to live in ignorance and pain.
Enlightenment leads to chaos and scurvy!
 
2012-08-27 12:56:25 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Mr. Carpenter: AverageAmericanGuy: Mr. Carpenter: AverageAmericanGuy: Mr. Carpenter: AverageAmericanGuy: Beaver Knievel: Yes, Fark whiners, because MORE "hands off" style Meh parenting is EXACTLY what this THIRTEEN year old child needs.

Gimme a break. Pure obviously not a real parent.

We parents are deathly afraid of being caught raising our hand to our spawn. Only in the privacy of our home can we even think of spanking.

I was at Target and some nosy woman yelled at me for raising my voice at my son. RAISING MY VOICE. Seriously dude. I hadn't even given him a slap on the face or twisted his arm to stop him from squirming.

Times are different. Parents can't discipline kids in public anymore. Just saying.

Raise your hand to another human being that's attempted assault and as a society we throw you in prison to be raped like the little biatch you are. What kind of man hits someone weaker than him? A pathetic excuse for one that's what kind. You want to use violence to teach someone a lesson, I'm pretty sure Bubba has quite a few to teach you, so bend over.

Right. Rape is an appropriate means of correction.

What the fark is wrong with you, dude.

Oh you're an idiot. Let me spell it out for you. If you think violence is an acceptable form of correction for a child, then what's good for the goose is good for the gander. We as a society do not condone it, so welcome to rapesville, population you!

Spanking = rape

Do I have that right, you farking weirdo fetishist?

I'm afraid child abuse is especially looked down on in prison, so you're probably going to have to put up with quite a bit more than just Bubba. And is "squirming" the same as "being hit by a man 7 times your size" until you've "learned your lesson."

The fact is, if you accept violence as a valid form of correction, than not only are you a farking moron (it's not nearly as effective and far less so than other forms of correction) but you're also a pussy.

I'll take my chances, you non-breeder.


What? Did you really just say that? "You don't beat your children so you must not have kids..." Child abusing farking moron, coward, pussy, all rolled into one. You're a disgusting pathetic weak little man and you deserve nothing but the complete and utter apathy the worthless crotchfruit you're raising will give you.

Thirty years from now when you're white trash self is dying of lung cancer from those reds you've been sucking down you're children are gonna laugh their asses off when they send you to a home, or just let you die alone in your trailer.

Two kids, never struck either. Not. Even. Once. And I'm willing to bet my motherfarking LIFE they are so much more respectful, kind, smart, and hard working than anyone you could EVER "train."
 
2012-08-27 12:58:57 AM  

Bob_Laublaw: Hopefully he learns a very important lesson and is much more inconspicuous with his weed from here on in. never to trust his mother ever again, and family is thinner than turpentine.

 
2012-08-27 12:59:04 AM  
Christ, kid. Grow up and do meth already.
 
2012-08-27 12:59:40 AM  
What if I spank my girlfriend when she's naughty?

:)
 
2012-08-27 12:59:47 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Mr. Carpenter: AverageAmericanGuy: Mr. Carpenter: AverageAmericanGuy: Mr. Carpenter: AverageAmericanGuy: Beaver Knievel: Yes, Fark whiners, because MORE "hands off" style Meh parenting is EXACTLY what this THIRTEEN year old child needs.

Gimme a break. Pure obviously not a real parent.

We parents are deathly afraid of being caught raising our hand to our spawn. Only in the privacy of our home can we even think of spanking.

I was at Target and some nosy woman yelled at me for raising my voice at my son. RAISING MY VOICE. Seriously dude. I hadn't even given him a slap on the face or twisted his arm to stop him from squirming.

Times are different. Parents can't discipline kids in public anymore. Just saying.

Raise your hand to another human being that's attempted assault and as a society we throw you in prison to be raped like the little biatch you are. What kind of man hits someone weaker than him? A pathetic excuse for one that's what kind. You want to use violence to teach someone a lesson, I'm pretty sure Bubba has quite a few to teach you, so bend over.

Right. Rape is an appropriate means of correction.

What the fark is wrong with you, dude.

Oh you're an idiot. Let me spell it out for you. If you think violence is an acceptable form of correction for a child, then what's good for the goose is good for the gander. We as a society do not condone it, so welcome to rapesville, population you!

Spanking = rape

Do I have that right, you farking weirdo fetishist?

I'm afraid child abuse is especially looked down on in prison, so you're probably going to have to put up with quite a bit more than just Bubba. And is "squirming" the same as "being hit by a man 7 times your size" until you've "learned your lesson."

The fact is, if you accept violence as a valid form of correction, than not only are you a farking moron (it's not nearly as effective and far less so than other forms of correction) but you're also a pussy.

I'll take my chances, you non-breeder.


Oh forgot, you're a feckless degenerate and ignored under "moron white trash trailer park child abuser."
 
2012-08-27 12:59:48 AM  

Mr. Carpenter: Thirty years from now when you're white trash self is dying of lung cancer from those reds you've been sucking down you're children are gonna laugh their asses off when they send you to a home, or just let you die alone in your trailer.


Yknow, I was with you until this.

That was a low blow. You're a dick.

/*favorited!*
 
2012-08-27 01:01:11 AM  

TsukasaK: Mr. Carpenter: Thirty years from now when you're white trash self is dying of lung cancer from those reds you've been sucking down you're children are gonna laugh their asses off when they send you to a home, or just let you die alone in your trailer.

Yknow, I was with you until this.

That was a low blow. You're a dick.

/*favorited!*


"You're being a dick to the guy proud of hitting his kids..."

I'm ok with this.
 
2012-08-27 01:16:07 AM  
I'm not angry son. Just, disappointed.

/Am I doing it right?
//No kids
///I learned it from watching you ok!?!?
\Tonight, on a very special episode of __________
\\Did I forget any?
 
2012-08-27 01:16:49 AM  
Feh. I'd kick his ass for getting caught. I caught my daughter and her boyfriend doing the deed once. I had had lots of conversations with her about sex, and they were all "Never be ashamed of protecting yourself. Condoms = good. If you have questions and don't want to talk to me (single dad) your aunts are all right there, and Planned Parenthood is right down the street and totally confidential. So take care of yourself. Beyond that, I don't want to know."

So I walk in and oooops. After much embarrasment where boyo exits the domicile, she says "Am I in trouble?"

I said "Yes. Do you remember all those conversations we had?

"Yes."

"Are you taking care of yourself and being smart?"

"Yes."

"OK. But now I know. That's why you're in trouble."

Kids are gonna drink, fark, and occasionally smoke a bowl. You haven't failed if they do these things. You've failed if you don't prepare them to do these things.
 
2012-08-27 01:19:59 AM  

TsukasaK: Mr. Carpenter: Thirty years from now when you're white trash self is dying of lung cancer from those reds you've been sucking down you're children are gonna laugh their asses off when they send you to a home, or just let you die alone in your trailer.

Yknow, I was with you until this.

That was a low blow. You're a dick.

/*favorited!*


I guess verbal abuse does the trick then?

Sometimes kids are just looking for boundaries. Whether you take away the TV for a week or give them a spanking (Not a beating. Taking your frustration out on your kids isn't discipline) is up to the parent. A deterrent is a deterrent. At the end of the day teaching your kids to have a conscience and to act rationally will go a lot farther.
 
2012-08-27 01:22:51 AM  

BigTexas: One thing at a time. Remind me again of the life long criminal record you see for a kid caught smoking a cigarette. I know it will probably be worse than that, but lets have one step at a time. Its the attitude of "if we can't do it perfect, lets never do it" that slows this down. When have you ever seen anything implemented properly the first go round? That is why you work toward change, then improve it.


I'm not worried about it being perfect, I'm concerned that they're openly pushing the burden onto a smaller group, and coincidentally, the group with the least amount of political power.

If the proposals simply sought to take adult penalties down by three steps, and teen penalties down by one or two, I'd have no issue. BUT, the proposals all seem to focus entirely on removing all penalties for adults while leaving the existing penalties for young people. Why would anyone propose lightening penalties for teens after adult use/possession is legalized? It's a fantastic political tool-anytime anyone talks about adult misuse, distract them by ratcheting up enforcement on teens.

Adult legalization by the current crop will be very terrible for young people as all the possession/use based resources of the drug war focus entirely on them. As I said before, all those K9 units aren't going anywhere. There'll just be more to roam hallways of schools.

As long as it's framed as an adults only issue with all the current baggage being dumped on teens, it demonstrates that these groups aren't quite ready to truly end the drug war, but merely to divide and conquer and cowardly push the burden onto a smaller group that can't fight back. As such, I hope all these legalization movements fail. When they start talking about easing up on everyone (even if they loosen up less on young people), I'll change my mind.
 
2012-08-27 01:32:51 AM  

Mr. Carpenter: TsukasaK: Mr. Carpenter: Thirty years from now when you're white trash self is dying of lung cancer from those reds you've been sucking down you're children are gonna laugh their asses off when they send you to a home, or just let you die alone in your trailer.

Yknow, I was with you until this.

That was a low blow. You're a dick.

/*favorited!*

"You're being a dick to the guy proud of hitting his kids..."

I'm ok with this.


Serious question. Ho many children have you raised?
 
2012-08-27 01:43:18 AM  
Isnt he likely to just end up being a lot cooler because of it? Or do his parents think his peer group would never want to associate with a pothead?
 
2012-08-27 01:46:11 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: What's the deal with the "Marriage would have saved the kids" sign guy at the I405 NE8 intersection in Bellevue? I've seen him a couple times and can't figure out what he's trying to protest.


Ooh a local!

/Going to the Issaquah shingding?
 
2012-08-27 01:50:05 AM  

HotWingAgenda: Normally the Fark Righteous Indignation Brigade spends its time biatching about mothers that don't discipline their kids for breaking the rules. This mom punishes her kid in a creative and non-violent way for breaking both her rules and Federal law, and you guys go apeshiat? Wow.


Good discipline is a holy grail here on fark.

Everyone wants it to happen, but anything anyone does is either not enough or over the top.
 
2012-08-27 01:51:06 AM  

cuzsis: AverageAmericanGuy: What's the deal with the "Marriage would have saved the kids" sign guy at the I405 NE8 intersection in Bellevue? I've seen him a couple times and can't figure out what he's trying to protest.

Ooh a local!

/Going to the Issaquah shingding?


I wish. But I'm leaving on Sunday.

I can make it this week, but fly out on Sunday.

What's the deal with that NE 8 dude?
 
2012-08-27 01:51:32 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Marriage would have saved the kids


He is telling you that those aborted fetuses of those whores single moms would be alive today if she was married and in the kitchen where she belongs.

There is a large women's clinic at Overlake Hospital.
 
2012-08-27 01:52:45 AM  

Rent Party: AverageAmericanGuy: Marriage would have saved the kids

He is telling you that those aborted fetuses of those whores single moms would be alive today if she was married and in the kitchen where she belongs.

There is a large women's clinic at Overlake Hospital.


I don't get the connection, though.

Was his kid aborted or something?
 
2012-08-27 01:52:45 AM  

Fark Angelic Choir: The kid wants to stop.


No, his mom wants him to stop and he is likely parroting what he knows she wants him to say. According to her he was a great kid prior. Now the kid says he has to turn his life around. It's not like he was robbing a store or something.
 
2012-08-27 01:57:19 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Rent Party: AverageAmericanGuy: Marriage would have saved the kids

He is telling you that those aborted fetuses of those whores single moms would be alive today if she was married and in the kitchen where she belongs.

There is a large women's clinic at Overlake Hospital.

I don't get the connection, though.

Was his kid aborted or something?


No, the kids at the Abortion Factory up the road. Those kids would have been saved if only their filthy, dirty, slutty mother's had a ring on their fingers.

If you think that guy is bizarre, you should see the group of angry old ladies out in front of the clinic at 2nd Ave and Ranier Ave S in Renton every morning. They've got some disturbing shiat up on their billboards.
 
2012-08-27 02:03:35 AM  

Rent Party: AverageAmericanGuy: Rent Party: AverageAmericanGuy: Marriage would have saved the kids

He is telling you that those aborted fetuses of those whores single moms would be alive today if she was married and in the kitchen where she belongs.

There is a large women's clinic at Overlake Hospital.

I don't get the connection, though.

Was his kid aborted or something?

No, the kids at the Abortion Factory up the road. Those kids would have been saved if only their filthy, dirty, slutty mother's had a ring on their fingers.

If you think that guy is bizarre, you should see the group of angry old ladies out in front of the clinic at 2nd Ave and Ranier Ave S in Renton every morning. They've got some disturbing shiat up on their billboards.


Not for nothing, but that guy could stand to explain a bit more on his sign. As it is, I figured he was just a crazy guy.

Doesn't he have a poster of an aborted fetus or something?
 
2012-08-27 02:07:07 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy:
Not for nothing, but that guy could stand to explain a bit more on his sign. As it is, I figured he was just a crazy guy.

Doesn't he have a poster of an aborted fetus or something?


The angry old ladies in Renton have a monopoly on aborted fetus posters.

One day, when I'm bored with nothing to do, I'm going to dress up as Jesus/Elvis, make bunch of signs that say "Freaky Jesus Forgives Safe Sex" and "Jesus Wants You To Get Your Freak On Safely" and "Condoms Stop Abortions" and stand there with them, handing out condoms to passing cars.

For the lulz.
 
2012-08-27 04:33:27 AM  
pedrop357: Young people would still face fines, jail time, drivers' license suspensions, 18-20 year olds still face asset seizures, lifelong criminal records, etc., all of which are considered appalling when done to people over 21. Invasions like drug testing could still be aimed at students (and potentialy workers) under 21.

As a legalization proponent, I'll say that, at least for me, there's a lot of inaccuracies in this. I'd make the age 18, the people facing the fines and jail time would mostly be those selling or providing to minors. Asset seizure? Not unless the teen is running an illegal dealership.

pedrop357: If the proposals simply sought to take adult penalties down by three steps, and teen penalties down by one or two, I'd have no issue. BUT, the proposals all seem to focus entirely on removing all penalties for adults while leaving the existing penalties for young people. Why would anyone propose lightening penalties for teens after adult use/possession is legalized? It's a fantastic political tool-anytime anyone talks about adult misuse, distract them by ratcheting up enforcement on teens.

It's more a matter of focus and message. You only have so much time; I'd honesty never especially thought about any adjustments to the punishment levels for underage use as opposed to just plain illegal use. When I did I concentrated solely on the supply side - hit any dealers/adults who provide to the underaged hard.

Now, if I was actually writing the legislation, I'm likely to wipe out 'Marijuana' from the illegal drug lists, any laws specific to it, etc... In the process of setting up the legal framework, what to do about teen usage would be addressed, but I wouldn't be putting 'unless you're under 18/21' on the old drug laws, but more copying what happens when a teen is caught smoking tobacco or drinking alcohol. IE most of the emphasis/punishment would be on the provider.
 
2012-08-27 04:43:28 AM  

Rent Party: One day, when I'm bored with nothing to do, I'm going to dress up as Jesus/Elvis, make bunch of signs that say "Freaky Jesus Forgives Safe Sex" and "Jesus Wants You To Get Your Freak On Safely" and "Condoms Stop Abortions" and stand there with them, handing out condoms to passing cars.

For the lulz.


Let me know. I'll show up in the most conservative getup I can put together without buying anything new(probably my 'celebrate diversity' with like 50 handguns on it) and provide security/documentation services. :)
 
2012-08-27 05:06:25 AM  

Firethorn: pedrop357: Young people would still face fines, jail time, drivers' license suspensions, 18-20 year olds still face asset seizures, lifelong criminal records, etc., all of which are considered appalling when done to people over 21. Invasions like drug testing could still be aimed at students (and potentialy workers) under 21.

As a legalization proponent, I'll say that, at least for me, there's a lot of inaccuracies in this. I'd make the age 18, the people facing the fines and jail time would mostly be those selling or providing to minors. Asset seizure? Not unless the teen is running an illegal dealership.

pedrop357: If the proposals simply sought to take adult penalties down by three steps, and teen penalties down by one or two, I'd have no issue. BUT, the proposals all seem to focus entirely on removing all penalties for adults while leaving the existing penalties for young people. Why would anyone propose lightening penalties for teens after adult use/possession is legalized? It's a fantastic political tool-anytime anyone talks about adult misuse, distract them by ratcheting up enforcement on teens.

It's more a matter of focus and message. You only have so much time; I'd honesty never especially thought about any adjustments to the punishment levels for underage use as opposed to just plain illegal use. When I did I concentrated solely on the supply side - hit any dealers/adults who provide to the underaged hard.

Now, if I was actually writing the legislation, I'm likely to wipe out 'Marijuana' from the illegal drug lists, any laws specific to it, etc... In the process of setting up the legal framework, what to do about teen usage would be addressed, but I wouldn't be putting 'unless you're under 18/21' on the old drug laws, but more copying what happens when a teen is caught smoking tobacco or drinking alcohol. IE most of the emphasis/punishment would be on the provider.


This is nonsense. If we decriminalize marijuana, it's decriminalized. Done. We don't throw people who buy smokes in jail, we don't put people who buy fifths of vodka in jail, there's no point in having criminal penalties associated with a substance if we're willing to, as a society, let people have it. The rest of the civilized world has drinking laws that reflect reality; why is it wrong for 14-year-olds to drink? If adults could legally smoke pot, why couldn't a sixteen-year-old? There aren't big groups of developmentally disabled adults wandering around Germany because they all had steins of beer with dinner as teenagers,
 
2012-08-27 05:14:03 AM  
Oh, and the 12 year old kid I took to the hospital with acute alcohol poisoning two weeks ago is still in a coma. Not sure what his prognosis is, but I wasn't sure if I was even going to get him to the hospital. The narcan worked a little, so he may have had something else in his system too, but the vodak is what did him in for sure. I believe it turned out to be that pussy girly flavored shiat too.

One thing we need to do when teaching our kids about pot is to be honest with them about it. When they found out we lied about it, then surely we lied about the dangers of heroin, huffing, drinking, etc.

Then you end up with 12 and 13 year olds who drink themselves to death.

Yeah, there was a 13 year old too. AFAIK he's also still in a coma. I didn't transport him, another ambulance did, but he was a bit more alert and combative.
 
2012-08-27 05:18:49 AM  

cretinbob: Oh, and the 12 year old kid I took to the hospital with acute alcohol poisoning two weeks ago is still in a coma. Not sure what his prognosis is, but I wasn't sure if I was even going to get him to the hospital. The narcan worked a little, so he may have had something else in his system too, but the vodak is what did him in for sure. I believe it turned out to be that pussy girly flavored shiat too.

One thing we need to do when teaching our kids about pot is to be honest with them about it. When they found out we lied about it, then surely we lied about the dangers of heroin, huffing, drinking, etc.

Then you end up with 12 and 13 year olds who drink themselves to death.

Yeah, there was a 13 year old too. AFAIK he's also still in a coma. I didn't transport him, another ambulance did, but he was a bit more alert and combative.


What a mess. Alcohol is some farked up shiat. (As I say, though I'm half a bottle in on some 10yr Macallan).

Here's to this young kid making it through unharmed.
 
2012-08-27 05:37:56 AM  

highwayrun: This is nonsense. If we decriminalize marijuana, it's decriminalized. Done. We don't throw people who buy smokes in jail, we don't put people who buy fifths of vodka in jail, there's no point in having criminal penalties associated with a substance if we're willing to, as a society, let people have it. The rest of the civilized world has drinking laws that reflect reality; why is it wrong for 14-year-olds to drink? If adults could legally smoke pot, why couldn't a sixteen-year-old? There aren't big groups of developmentally disabled adults wandering around Germany because they all had steins of beer with dinner as teenagers,


Did you actually read what I said? I wasn't proposing tossing people who buy tobacco/alcohol in jail. I was talking about duplicating the penalties providers face for SELLING said substances to prohibited minors under a 'legalized weed' framework. Said penalties are typically jail-free. I honestly don't think there's any chance of getting marijuana legalized for the sub-18 crowd. As such, like I just said, I think that the penalties for providing weed to minors should be about the same as providing tobacco or alcohol to them - typically it's only a fine. Nasty large fine, but merely a fine.

Criminal charges would be for selling illegally adulterated drugs(contaminated food/drug laws), or otherwise showing a supreme disdain for the safety of the product you're selling to the public.

Doing stuff like allowing parents to provide recreational drugs to their kids like alcohol, tobacco, or even marijuana can wait until later.

Lastly - most 'decriminalization' schemes only legalize possession of small amounts, it doesn't legalize production, transportation, or sale of large quantities. To distinguish from that, normally I say 'legalize'. It doesn't mean that there are no laws left regarding the drug in question, it can still be regulated(purity, safety, truth in advertising, and such), and taxed(hopefully not as much as cigarettes). Driving under the influence of it is still a crime, and it's on your head if you commit a crime while high.
 
2012-08-27 07:52:21 AM  

TsukasaK: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Public humiliation works.

So does beating the shiat out of your kids. What's your point? It's still reprehensible to do. There are other things you can do that, again don't "go the buddy with our kids" route.

Are you that f*cking braindead that you can't see that there are a ton of possible punishments that aren't anywhere near human rights violations?


You all keep throwing around the phrase "human rights violations" as if these parents are the bastard demon spawn of Pol Pot and Stalin.

Again, people....there's a big difference between beating/abusing your kid and giving them three quick swats for something. It's all about creating negative mental associations with the negative behavior...however you want to do that, provided it is reasonable, is at your discretion as a parent.

If you think spanking is bad for your kid, then don't do it. Fine. I'm not going to tell you how to raise your kid. I don't know your kid. But please don't judge people who do decide to use occasional CONTROLLED spanking (not "beating the shiat out of") as a behavior deterrent.
 
2012-08-27 07:56:56 AM  

Fark Angelic Choir: If you think spanking is bad for your kid, then don't do it. Fine. I'm not going to tell you how to raise your kid. I don't know your kid. But please don't judge people who do decide to use occasional CONTROLLED spanking (not "beating the shiat out of") as a behavior deterrent.


I happen to believe that there are certain kids, in certain age groups, where said spankings, properly delivered, are the best corrective measures. It should not cause injury and should be fairly rare - only used in cases where the behavior you're attempting to prevent could cause physical harm. Something like running into the street, trying to poke a knife into a socket, etc...
 
2012-08-27 08:05:48 AM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: Shakespeare's Sister: I cannot if this is effective or not for this child, but it is not what I would do to my son. Maybe this is what would work for him, but it would work for my kid

Are you sure your his sister?


Heehee. I can see why you would ask that. This is not the first time I have tried to post when both of my children are yelling at me to solve some imagined crisis.

Other than that, no, I am not. I am not that old. :)
 
2012-08-27 08:21:15 AM  

zvoidx: The thing is this mother, I'm guessing, is in her 30's..let's just say 35. That would mean that she graduated high school in 1995! That was a short time ago; what happened so quickly to make her out of touch with youth?

My point being that she should have a fairly recent perspective of the teenage mindset and it would be much more effective to emphasize the reasons why she thinks pot isn't a good idea for a 13-year-old; for example bad for brain/body development, with tangible examples.

By adopting a "pot is bad/you're bad" stance and humiliating him, she sets the wall between them even higher which may increase the chances of a rebellious teenager doing even more drugs.


Seriously? Teenagers heed warnings about risky behavior based on logic and evidenced? Wow, you call HER out of touch with teens.

Maybe some kids actually do heed those warnings, but different kids respond to different forms of punishment. You honestly don't think this kid has ever heard about the dangers of drugs (not that pot is dangerous, they label it as such) and seen those stupid films in class? The kid is probably a recent DARE graduate.
 
2012-08-27 08:45:00 AM  
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2012-08-27 08:46:41 AM  

MixedNut: When I was in the first grade my mopther caught me lying about something and put a sign around my neck saying "Don't trust me I am a liar'" and sent me off to school. Needless to say I did not want to go to school like that but she forced me to leave. I walked to the end of the driveway and stood there in tears for a while till mom figured I had had learned a lesson and called me back, took off the sign and sent me to school. Yes I learned a lesson and was very careful about the telling the truth from that day on. Of course I have lied since then, everyone lies, but usually only to people who were a-holes and didn't deserve the truth.


Looks like your mom should have left the sign on for the day
 
2012-08-27 08:57:55 AM  
Newsflash - The worst people in the world ( amerikans ) turm out to be the worst parents.
 
2012-08-27 08:58:09 AM  

Begoggle: Stupid tag is for submitter?

Ringo48: I love the hypocrisy here.

If a kid breaks the law and the parents do nothing, there's outrage on Fark.

If a kid breaks the law and the parents do something, there's outrage on Fark.

If his mom caught him smoking, then he's obviously not very smart, and it's only a matter of time before he gets in legal trouble over it, which will be an expensive pain in the ass for his parents. That's probably why they're stopping it now.

This^


Wow, it's almost as if Farkers aren't part of a homogeneous hive mind.

/People here seem to different opinions and everything!
//I'd like to present the politics tab as exhibit A.
 
2012-08-27 09:09:25 AM  
Don't get caught!
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2012-08-27 09:14:47 AM  

Ringo48: I love the hypocrisy here.

If a kid breaks the law and the parents do nothing, there's outrage on Fark.

If a kid breaks the law and the parents do something, there's outrage on Fark.

If his mom caught him smoking, then he's obviously not very smart, and it's only a matter of time before he gets in legal trouble over it, which will be an expensive pain in the ass for his parents. That's probably why they're stopping it now.


Different people have different opinions on an internet message board? Say it ain't so!

/hypocracy doesn't apply when you're talking about multiple people
 
2012-08-27 09:28:41 AM  

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LOL
 
2012-08-27 09:37:23 AM  
Yes humiliate your 13 year old, that's good parenting right there. Of course she got this brilliant parenting technique from our court system.

The Scarlett Letter is a critic of puritan society, not a how to manual for parenting and legal systems.
 
2012-08-27 09:54:53 AM  
He's gonna need to do a lot of drugs to get over it
 
2012-08-27 10:02:21 AM  
I think this punishment is inappropriate. In my house, the punishment for not sharing is confiscation. Since her kid didn't share his weed with her - and obviously, that's unacceptable - she should have taken the weed and smoked it herself. He'd feel excluded, and that's what your looking for in a sharing-failure punishment.
 
2012-08-27 10:03:33 AM  

RminusQ: NetOwl: I do think it's funny that the sign includes the "...got caught" it does sort of imply that the pot smoking is OK as long as no one finds out.

Maybe that was the point.

A little humiliation from one's parents is easier to get through than what cops would do to him. The punishment sends a clear message that he is not being careful enough, an if he doesn't shap up, he'll end up in real trouble.

To me, it illustrates that the worst thing that can and will happen if you smoke pot is that you'll get caught. If he doesn't stop, "he'll end up in real trouble" not because marijuana will fark you up or make you crash your car or jump off a building, but because someone more powerful than Mom and Dad will catch you.


I tell mine: Smoking a little pot now and then will not mess up your life at all. Getting busted, however, will. However nice being high may feel, it is not nearly nice enough to throw away your scholarship, extracurriculars for the rest of HS, admission to the college of your choice, ect, not to mention having to explain a criminal record at every job interview for the rest of your life.

Therefore, as your parent and yes, the boss of you, I am making the rule that you may not smoke pot, posess pot, have pot in this house, or hang out with people who are in posession of or smoking pot.
 
2012-08-27 10:21:16 AM  

Firethorn: highwayrun: This is nonsense. If we decriminalize marijuana, it's decriminalized. Done. We don't throw people who buy smokes in jail, we don't put people who buy fifths of vodka in jail, there's no point in having criminal penalties associated with a substance if we're willing to, as a society, let people have it. The rest of the civilized world has drinking laws that reflect reality; why is it wrong for 14-year-olds to drink? If adults could legally smoke pot, why couldn't a sixteen-year-old? There aren't big groups of developmentally disabled adults wandering around Germany because they all had steins of beer with dinner as teenagers,

Did you actually read what I said? I wasn't proposing tossing people who buy tobacco/alcohol in jail. I was talking about duplicating the penalties providers face for SELLING said substances to prohibited minors under a 'legalized weed' framework. Said penalties are typically jail-free. I honestly don't think there's any chance of getting marijuana legalized for the sub-18 crowd. As such, like I just said, I think that the penalties for providing weed to minors should be about the same as providing tobacco or alcohol to them - typically it's only a fine. Nasty large fine, but merely a fine.

Criminal charges would be for selling illegally adulterated drugs(contaminated food/drug laws), or otherwise showing a supreme disdain for the safety of the product you're selling to the public.

Doing stuff like allowing parents to provide recreational drugs to their kids like alcohol, tobacco, or even marijuana can wait until later.

Lastly - most 'decriminalization' schemes only legalize possession of small amounts, it doesn't legalize production, transportation, or sale of large quantities. To distinguish from that, normally I say 'legalize'. It doesn't mean that there are no laws left regarding the drug in question, it can still be regulated(purity, safety, truth in advertising, and such), and taxed(hopefully not as much as cigarett ...


Yes, I did read what you said. My point is that marijuana is of itself harmless, more so than known poisons like nicotine and alcohol. If we can all come to the conclusion that it's no more harmful than a freshly picked tomato. then why does it matter if teenagers smoke it?

To be fair, I also think all recreaional drugs should be legal and regulated like OTC medications are. If I can walk down to the liquor store and buy enough Everclear to kill myself, why is that okay, but it's not okay to go buy enough heroin to OD? No one's ever died from too much pot or too much X or too much acid, but thousands of people die yearly from OTC and prescription overdoses.

Your mind and body are your own.
 
2012-08-27 10:24:00 AM  

Rent Party: AverageAmericanGuy:
Not for nothing, but that guy could stand to explain a bit more on his sign. As it is, I figured he was just a crazy guy.

Doesn't he have a poster of an aborted fetus or something?

The angry old ladies in Renton have a monopoly on aborted fetus posters.

One day, when I'm bored with nothing to do, I'm going to dress up as Jesus/Elvis, make bunch of signs that say "Freaky Jesus Forgives Safe Sex" and "Jesus Wants You To Get Your Freak On Safely" and "Condoms Stop Abortions" and stand there with them, handing out condoms to passing cars.

For the lulz.


I heart you for this. And plz, plz submit vid of this for our viewing pleasure.

There's a nasty billboard her which says: Abortion increases your risk of breast cancer. (BTW abortion doesn't magically cause cancer, and doesn't increase the risk over not being pregnant in the first place. It just denies the woman the slight decrease in risk that a full term pregnancy gives.) I want to rent the billboard next to it and put up:

TEEN PREGNANCY PROTECTS AGAINST BREAST CANCER! THE YOUNGER, THE BETTER! AND THE MORE BABBIES YOU FORM UNDER 18, THE SAFER YOU ARE!

Which is true, actually. If we all got knocked up shortly after menarche, and kept right on breeding into our thirties, we'd go a long way towards making breast cancer a thing of the past.

Then I realised that as long as they could marry the little girls off first, this is a utopian fantasy for a certain segment of the population. Then I got very, very sad...
 
2012-08-27 10:36:36 AM  

highwayrun: Yes, I did read what you said. My point is that marijuana is of itself harmless, more so than known poisons like nicotine and alcohol. If we can all come to the conclusion that it's no more harmful than a freshly picked tomato. then why does it matter if teenagers smoke it?


I support legalization, and think that pot is not nearly as harmful as alchohol, but this is silly. Even without the actual pot itself, drawing hot smoke into your lungs and holding it in there as long as you can is not good for you.

A freshly picked tomato is full of good things that your body needs. Eating one is 100% benefit. Pot is not very harmful. It's an entirely different thing. Altogether.

/is eating a freshly picked tomato right now
//getting a kick
 
2012-08-27 10:49:38 AM  
Shame, embarrassment, and guilt will hopefully set this kid straight. There is plenty of time to experiment later, if he is so inclined.
 
2012-08-27 10:57:42 AM  

Firethorn: Rent Party: One day, when I'm bored with nothing to do, I'm going to dress up as Jesus/Elvis, make bunch of signs that say "Freaky Jesus Forgives Safe Sex" and "Jesus Wants You To Get Your Freak On Safely" and "Condoms Stop Abortions" and stand there with them, handing out condoms to passing cars.

For the lulz.

Let me know. I'll show up in the most conservative getup I can put together without buying anything new(probably my 'celebrate diversity' with like 50 handguns on it) and provide security/documentation services. :)


These are just little old ladies. Harmless as a bunch of mice.

Besides, if I needed guns, I'd bring my own. But thanks for the offer!
 
2012-08-27 12:17:35 PM  
"Stupid" tag???? Far from stupid. She's a parent that actually gives a damn about her kid.


"Time outs and taking things away just doesn't work any more. Sometimes a little public humility is what they need nowadays to get a point across. If this works for him and maybe saves one or two other students from thinking about picking this stuff up, then I feel like I've done my job as a parent," said April Mathison.
When she first told him about the punishment, she says her son was surprised.
"He was kind of embarrassed before we even got out here," said April Mathison. "He was like 'You're serious? You're going to have me stand on the road with a sign?' I was like 'Yes sir, if this is what it takes.' I don't think he believed me at first. I really don't."



The kid didn't listen to her.... the typical teenager who thinks they're always right and they know better than the parent. She got his attention and did something to make the incident stick in his mind. Regardless of all the "pot is good" misfits on here and their ideas about legalization, it is NOT LEGAL and the kid is old enough to know that he needs to abide by rules and laws in society.

Good job Mom.... one of the rare stories of a parent that actually cares about her kid. If more kids were sent out wearing signs when they did something wrong, many more kids would start to listen and obey. The newest generations are so hung up on posting every detail of their lives online for the whole world to see, but when it comes down to their actual community, they're embarrassed by people knowing they're in trouble. GOOD.

This mom doesn't want her kid sitting on the couch like a lump wondering where he's gonna score his next bag from..... she actually wants him to do something with his life.
 
2012-08-27 12:24:22 PM  

vd61: Fark Angelic Choir: The kid wants to stop.

No, his mom wants him to stop and he is likely parroting what he knows she wants him to say. According to her he was a great kid prior. Now the kid says he has to turn his life around. It's not like he was robbing a store or something.


He probably IS just saying and doing what his mom wants him to..... but that will suffice until he's 18 and can make his own adult decisions. By then, perhaps he will have seen that he could do just fine without using pot as a crutch. Sorry, but you don't need to smoke pot to live. (Contrary to what the Fark "Sitting on the couch and scarfing Cheetos" club says.)
 
2012-08-27 12:42:20 PM  
This kind of thing goes to show that we all have only two problems with ganja: The cost and the man.
 
2012-08-27 12:44:46 PM  

dosboot: Shame, embarrassment, and guilt will hopefully set this kid straight


Ya, It worked at Abu Ghraib. It's the American way.
 
2012-08-27 12:55:16 PM  

Ringo48: I love the hypocrisy here.

If a kid breaks the law and the parents do nothing, there's outrage on Fark.

If a kid breaks the law and the parents do something, there's outrage on Fark.
....


Oh no, for God's sake, don't embarrass the kid! Precious snowflake shouldn't be hurt by this experience.

//lmao at all the rabid potheads in the thread
//all the non-potheads worried about precious snowflake too
 
2012-08-27 02:34:39 PM  
I don`t think anyone should be raising their own children. Send them off to boot camp. Every single one.
 
2012-08-27 03:03:03 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: If you need to resort to public humiliation to discipline your child, you've already failed as a parent.



I don't think you've failed. With a country that would be happy to toss you in jail for spanking your kid, this is the next best thing.
 
2012-08-27 07:43:09 PM  
God forbid a parent discipline their kid in a way of their choosing. The bottom line is that the parent is responsible for the actions of their child until the child is at least 16, if not 18. If you tell your kid you don't want them to do something, and they do it anyway (even if it's a misdemeanor in my state), they made their choice and now they have to face their consequences. And now, the kid realizes that there's real consequences. She didn't fail as a parent, she's sending a clear message. Maybe a little over the top, but now the kid knows she means business.
And no, pot's not as dangerous as alcohol or other drugs. But that's not the point. Even if it's legalized, if you think for one second that those under 18 are going to be allowed to legally smoke it, you're already high. And if you think for one second that inhaling smoke in your lungs is 'safe', again, you're already high.
And if the parent tells their child not to do something while living under their roof, that's just the way it goes.
 
2012-08-27 09:53:37 PM  

Fark Angelic Choir: You all keep throwing around the phrase "human rights violations" as if these parents are the bastard demon spawn of Pol Pot and Stalin.


Public humiliation is a human rights violation. Period. It's wrong when tinpot dictators do it, it's wrong when judges do it, it's wrong when parents do it.

Fark Angelic Choir: If you think spanking is bad for your kid, then don't do it. Fine. I'm not going to tell you how to raise your kid. I don't know your kid. But please don't judge people who do decide to use occasional CONTROLLED spanking (not "beating the shiat out of") as a behavior deterrent.


I was using "beating the shiat out of" as another example as something that's wrong to do regardless of who's doing it, not so much a condemnation of spanking.

I generally have no issue with the concept of corporal punishment when applied to very small children who there is almost literally nothing else you can do - they don't grasp the concept of losing privileges yet, and sometimes it takes a little bit of pain to associate that "action" = "something I shouldn't do again".

After that though, I'd like to see it stopped. It's way too easy, when you have your hand up in the air, to forget that you're delivering a measured punishment, and not taking out your anger or frustration. Unless you fail at parenting completely, there are a lot better ways to deliver correction than raining down blows on their ass.
 
2012-08-27 09:54:54 PM  

Toddicusrex: God forbid a parent discipline their kid in a way of their choosing.


You sound like a child abuser. Sorry chief, but kids are not chattel. You don't own them like you own a dog or a horse. You don't get to "discipline a kid in the way of your choosing" if the "way" is abusive or harsh.
 
2012-08-27 09:55:45 PM  

heyheyjerky: With a country that would be happy to toss you in jail for spanking your kid, this is the next best thing.


Oh look, there's that false dichotomy again.
 
2012-08-28 01:25:16 AM  

Rent Party: These are just little old ladies. Harmless as a bunch of mice.


I've seen 'angry old ladies', and the ones I remember would give NYC sewer rats a run for their money. Didn't say I'd come armed, just wear a shirt that says 'celebrate diversity' with pictures of like 50 different handguns on it... I like snarky tees like that.

TsukasaK: Public humiliation is a human rights violation. Period. It's wrong when tinpot dictators do it, it's wrong when judges do it, it's wrong when parents do it.


I'm not seeing it in the list... Torture is a violation of human rights, but torture basically amounts of causing 'unnecessary suffering'. The argument can be made here that it's the least painful punishment/correction that can be administered that works, thus it's not torture.

Bringing up tinpot dictators is just a distraction. They generally don't use public humiliation. They use public executions, actual torture, mass killings, and such to keep in power. There's a bit of difference between making a kid stand on a street for a few hours wearing poster-boards or holding a sign as opposed to feeding somebody feet first into a wood chipper.

After that though, I'd like to see it stopped. It's way too easy, when you have your hand up in the air, to forget that you're delivering a measured punishment, and not taking out your anger or frustration. Unless you fail at parenting completely, there are a lot better ways to deliver correction than raining down blows on their ass.

Public humiliation of the sort that we see parents doing here on fark are obviously measured, thought out responses; generally when they're at loss as to what else they can do to get the kid to behave. It's relatively quick and immediate. Like a spanking, it may be intense, but it's over relatively quickly. Let's use Singapore as an example - which do you think will be more effective as punishment for felony car vandalism(over $1k damage)? A year in prison, or a caning where the injuries will be healed within a few weeks, but remembered for years?

I should probably note that I think the justice system should, above all else, be concerned with reforming as many of the criminals it processes as possible. My personal main concern is keeping them from doing it again, restoring them to being a productive member of society. Preventing them from doing the crime in the first place is more the duty of the schools, parents, and the rest of society(social mores). Look at it like a medical issue where we're stuck using the equivalent of 1700s medical tech at the moment. Pain is inevitable. We need to do research into finding the best ways to reform criminals, and probably ways to determine the best reform method for individual criminals. The treatment for a gang-banger is going to be different than for a doctor who murdered his wife, after all.

As such, I'd support a study of caning as an alternative to semi-long prison sentences for teenagers, which have already been determined to do more to harden criminals(make them worse) than to reform them. It wouldn't hurt that caning(done properly) is a heck of a lot cheaper than holding somebody in prison for a year. If it doesn't work; fine, now we have the research showing it doesn't work, so we don't do it anymore.

Yes, it's painful. But is it really torture if it's determined to be the least painful method for it's success rate? Yes, I consider spending extended periods of time in jail/prison to be painful. For multi-year sentences, it can be extremely painful(psychological even if the prison isn't violent), the person is permanently retarded in their progression through life, permanently set behind. Wouldn't it be better if you got stuff out of the way in a couple weeks, then they're back at work?
 
2012-08-28 02:58:14 AM  

tukatz: vd61: Fark Angelic Choir: The kid wants to stop.

No, his mom wants him to stop and he is likely parroting what he knows she wants him to say. According to her he was a great kid prior. Now the kid says he has to turn his life around. It's not like he was robbing a store or something.

He probably IS just saying and doing what his mom wants him to..... but that will suffice until he's 18 and can make his own adult decisions. By then, perhaps he will have seen that he could do just fine without using pot as a crutch. Sorry, but you don't need to smoke pot to live. (Contrary to what the Fark "Sitting on the couch and scarfing Cheetos" club says.)


I didn't say he [or anyone] needs it to live. What I am saying is that instead of having a relationship with her son where he decides the best course of reaction is parroting [instead of an honest dialogue at best and at worst agreeing to disagree [ie: I will obey your rules mom since you provide for me currently]. You don't know that the kid was using it as a crutch, and I'm quite tired of the blanket statements that all people who smoke do so. For all we know he could have been splitting a J with friends en route to chess club or some shiat.
 
2012-08-28 07:41:35 AM  

TsukasaK: Fark Angelic Choir: You all keep throwing around the phrase "human rights violations" as if these parents are the bastard demon spawn of Pol Pot and Stalin.

Public humiliation is a human rights violation. Period. It's wrong when tinpot dictators do it, it's wrong when judges do it, it's wrong when parents do it.

Fark Angelic Choir: If you think spanking is bad for your kid, then don't do it. Fine. I'm not going to tell you how to raise your kid. I don't know your kid. But please don't judge people who do decide to use occasional CONTROLLED spanking (not "beating the shiat out of") as a behavior deterrent.

I was using "beating the shiat out of" as another example as something that's wrong to do regardless of who's doing it, not so much a condemnation of spanking.

I generally have no issue with the concept of corporal punishment when applied to very small children who there is almost literally nothing else you can do - they don't grasp the concept of losing privileges yet, and sometimes it takes a little bit of pain to associate that "action" = "something I shouldn't do again".

After that though, I'd like to see it stopped. It's way too easy, when you have your hand up in the air, to forget that you're delivering a measured punishment, and not taking out your anger or frustration. Unless you fail at parenting completely, there are a lot better ways to deliver correction than raining down blows on their ass.


Ha! Well spoken. "Raining down blows on their ass" made me think of Frank Costanza...

"As I rained down blows upon him, I realized there had to be a better way."
 
2012-08-28 10:13:54 AM  

Godscrack: dosboot: Shame, embarrassment, and guilt will hopefully set this kid straight

Ya, It worked at Abu Ghraib. It's the American way.


Yes, throw out the most extreme example to make your dumb ass political point. Let me play:

"Drink plenty of water"

"Yes, it worked for the passengers on the Titanic"
 
2012-08-28 09:27:45 PM  

dosboot: Yes, throw out the most extreme example to make your dumb ass political point.


Because public humiliation is exactly the same as drinking water.

/and what the fark is political about this?!
 
2012-08-29 06:27:06 AM  

TsukasaK: Because public humiliation is exactly the same as drinking water.


Yeah, drink enough water and you can die. A bit of public humiliation is about as likely to kill you(if you're incredibly fragile to stress for some medical reason).

Human rights violations are typically for far more serious violations than a day's public humiliation. It's generally for torture, murder, and such.

Protestors in Pakistan don't worry about being made fun of in public. They worry about disappearing into a prison/jail to be beaten, tortured, and held for years, if not killed.

Heck, I'd argue that the prisoners at Abu Ghraib weren't 'publicly' humiliated - they were video taped; not paraded around in a public square.*

*Though I still think the command got off too lightly on that one.
 
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