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2012-08-26 09:38:23 PM  
1. Find a proxy server in the UK.
2. Configure your browser to use it.
3. Enjoy Doctor Who.
(4. If you are on Windows, update and run your anti-virus software before each step.)
 
2012-08-26 09:53:23 PM  
Wait, BBC America shows British stuff?
I thought it was all Battlestar Galactica and Hollywood movies.
 
2012-08-26 09:54:19 PM  
Just quickly dropping in here, skipping the thread and all, but a "blockbuster a week" sounds like a horrible idea, considering that the very best Moffat episodes are the lower key ones. Blink was hardly a "blockbuster" episode, but was incredibly memorable plot and had a crapload of memorable lines, and the Doctor himself was barely in it until the end.

I will grant that the Moffat "blockbuster" finales have been good, but the very best are the low-key episodes in the middle, especially the ones he wrote himself.

The worst RTD episodes were the ones where he tried to cram so much shiat into a single episode...

Hopefully "blockbuster" means something a little different there than it does here in the US.
 
2012-08-26 10:05:08 PM  

Gunny Walker: 1. Find a proxy server in the UK.
2. Configure your browser to use it.
3. Enjoy Doctor Who.
(4. If you are on Windows, update and run your anti-virus software before each step.)


i have 20 up and 40 down, i was look to trade american-only services for bbc.

/don't know where to look.
 
2012-08-26 10:10:34 PM  
I've been actively ignoring most Doctor Who stories this year - mostly because I realized in the last two seasons that the fandom were really idiots.

And "stories" like this one, based off of three sentences from the showrunner, are just farking lame.

Also, since this comment is already completely devoid of any meaningful content, let me just also go on record for hating the BBCA version of Who (the "When I was a little girl..." intro is horrible). So, yeap - even though it means watching it a little later I will also be waiting for my beautiful British cousins to get it ripped and torrented.

As to Netflix, they also run that horrible intro don't they?

Sheesh. Why can't America have nice things?
 
2012-08-26 10:21:25 PM  

cretinbob: Yes, it was the Amy Pond show intro that people hated, not Pond herself.


You mean the Tardis flying through the cloudy vagina?
 
2012-08-26 10:24:13 PM  

mat catastrophe: Sheesh. Why can't America have nice things?


We covered that in the:
1) Honey Boo Boo ratings thread
2) The Olympics thread where NBC said they needed the announcers for the opening ceremonies because Americans aren't smart enough to handle it on our own

BBCA thinks they are doing us a favor with the Amy Pond Adventures opening.....

and NBC is ready to have Sherlock banging Watson in like 6 episodes (well..too be fair maybe they did keep it close to the books)
 
2012-08-26 10:29:22 PM  

FirstNationalBastard:
/and Captain Jack, even though he probably wanted to fark the Doctor, wasn't so forward about it.


You're kidding, right? Captain Jack spent half the time blatantly hitting on the Doctor.
 
2012-08-26 10:30:25 PM  
Yikes, only a week to go, better check my British proxies so I can watch DW on-line from the BBC. 

BBC America, I am disappointed. I would almost watch it there if they slated 90min for DW and endure commercials just as long as it was unedited.
 
2012-08-26 10:38:34 PM  

TheManofPA: mat catastrophe: Sheesh. Why can't America have nice things?

We covered that in the:
1) Honey Boo Boo ratings thread
2) The Olympics thread where NBC said they needed the announcers for the opening ceremonies because Americans aren't smart enough to handle it on our own

BBCA thinks they are doing us a favor with the Amy Pond Adventures opening.....



I would guess BBCA also thinks that they're doing viewers a favor by running only Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek: The Next Generation, and X-Files instead of actual British programming, but all they've really done is piss off people who might actually watch their sad, Spike TV in the mid-'00s rip off network.
 
2012-08-26 10:45:11 PM  

rynthetyn: You're kidding, right? Captain Jack spent half the time blatantly hitting on the Doctor. everything remotely human


don't forget, when he comes from a poodle could be a viable partner
 
2012-08-26 11:00:38 PM  

loonatic112358: rynthetyn: You're kidding, right? Captain Jack spent half the time blatantly hitting on the Doctor. everything remotely human

don't forget, when he comes from a poodle could be a viable partner


I still can't believe that One Million Moms never complained about Captain John making eyes at the poodle, it's not like the episode hasn't aired dozens of times in the US.
 
2012-08-26 11:06:18 PM  
A few sites actually stream BBC1, so that's what I tend to use... (I don't feel too bad about it, though, since I buy the DVDs once they actually come out... Classic and new.)
 
2012-08-26 11:15:56 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Matt Smith...he has a great take on the Doctor, but I am hard pressed to think of any "classic" episodes during his run.


'Vincent and the Doctor' and 'The Doctor's Wife' come to mind
 
2012-08-26 11:20:05 PM  

sage37: 'Vincent and the Doctor' and 'The Doctor's Wife' come to mind


I'm tempted to add "The Eleventh Hour"- it's one of the best post-regen episodes, which are usually a bit off as you're trying to adjust to the new Doctor. It was a lot of fun and paced extremely well (which most of the Moffat era isn't).

"Let's Kill Hitler" is overall pretty daft, but Rory punching Hitler is one of the best moments in Doctor Who, ever.
 
2012-08-26 11:21:39 PM  
I'd also add that I don't think the Tennant era has many classic episodes either- "Blink", "The Girl in the Fireplace" and "Midnight" come to mind. Eccleston gets "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances" and "Dalek". Actually, on sheer percentages, that puts Eccleston ahead for NuWho.
 
2012-08-26 11:24:29 PM  

sage37: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Matt Smith...he has a great take on the Doctor, but I am hard pressed to think of any "classic" episodes during his run.

'Vincent and the Doctor' and 'The Doctor's Wife' come to mind


The God Complex was fantastic. Easily my favorite of Smith's run so far.
 
2012-08-26 11:25:18 PM  
I must be the only Whovian who couldn't stand 'Midnight'... Granted I've only watched it once, but that's because I can't stand watching people shriek for 45 minutes straight.
 
2012-08-26 11:38:03 PM  

teto85: Many of it's Brit imports are not from BBC and the commercial time is filled with pledge breaks at the end of the programming.


They only do that twice a year, IIRC.
 
2012-08-26 11:57:09 PM  
Just like the Olympics use Expat Shield and watch it on the BBC iPlayer commercial free.
 
2012-08-27 12:26:59 AM  

t3knomanser: I'd also add that I don't think the Tennant era has many classic episodes either- "Blink", "The Girl in the Fireplace" and "Midnight" come to mind. Eccleston gets "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances" and "Dalek". Actually, on sheer percentages, that puts Eccleston ahead for NuWho.


Dalek is one of my all time favorites. I thought it was one of the few that made the Doctor's searing hatred for the Dalek truly memorable, and explained why he'd be willing to do what he did and earn the reputation he had. The whole, "Daleks are incredibly evil but I'll still be goofy about it" bit from other Doctors just never got it across for me. Eccleston was, IMO, the first to portray the Doctor's willingness to burn the entire universe to destroy them.
 
2012-08-27 12:28:08 AM  

sage37: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Matt Smith...he has a great take on the Doctor, but I am hard pressed to think of any "classic" episodes during his run.

'Vincent and the Doctor' and 'The Doctor's Wife' come to mind


Doctor's Wife is probably my 2nd favorite of the new ones behind Girl in the Fireplace. Vincent was a weird one for me, overall, I was only okay on the episode until the end. It's not one of my favorites, but the end of that is just dammnnnnnn....
 
2012-08-27 12:30:49 AM  
Not a big Amy fan either. Since she arrived, shes pretty much taken over the show. Plus shes just a walking ego. Hopefully the new girl will be an improvement. Luved me some Rory though.

And yeah, fark BBCA. I've torrented the show ever since it came back in 2005, and don't plan on changing unless the copyright police decide to kick in my door.

Turns out in the hours right after its broadcasts there are TONS of seeders. So even a HD download can be accomplished in about twenty minutes.
 
2012-08-27 12:38:30 AM  

TheManofPA: sage37: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Matt Smith...he has a great take on the Doctor, but I am hard pressed to think of any "classic" episodes during his run.

'Vincent and the Doctor' and 'The Doctor's Wife' come to mind

Doctor's Wife is probably my 2nd favorite of the new ones behind Girl in the Fireplace. Vincent was a weird one for me, overall, I was only okay on the episode until the end. It's not one of my favorites, but the end of that is just dammnnnnnn....


Vincent and the Doctor was the episode where Matt Smith finally clicked for me as The Doctor. Before that, I was still missing David Tennant (even though Tennant's final episodes left me wishing his emo ass would just regenerate already).
 
2012-08-27 12:58:33 AM  

Chemical Stump Remover: sage37: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Matt Smith...he has a great take on the Doctor, but I am hard pressed to think of any "classic" episodes during his run.

'Vincent and the Doctor' and 'The Doctor's Wife' come to mind

The God Complex was fantastic. Easily my favorite of Smith's run so far.



"Vincent and the Doctor" was just exquisite, at least the trips to the museum with Bill Nighy (most importantly, when they take Vincent, of course). Actually, the rest of it, fighting the inter-spacial griffin monster, didn't make that much of an impression on me.

"The Doctor's Wife" gave a lot of character development -- particularly for that usually inanimate but vital character, the TARDIS, the first of the show's ongoing characters that was ever seen, even before Barbara and Ian.

Speaking of character development, I very much enjoyed "The Girl Who Waited" and Amy's portions of "The Wedding of River Song". The latter's scene about the Brigadier was also such a well done kick in the gut, and the momentary Dalek cameo was in many ways the best use of them in a very long time.

Maybe it's un-hip to say, but damn, "A Good Man Goes to War" was awesome, although mostly for reasons aside from Smith/11. It started with the Whoniverse's most amazing cold open ever, with among the highest holy-shiat factor of most cold opens of any tv series: Amy's monologue to Melody. What's with the Cybermen? The build-up about how Melody will never be alone, someone's coming for them and that the man (reflecting on Rory's fears about Amy's feelings for the Doctor in "Day of the Moon" and others) is your father. Wait! WTF did she just say?! "He looks old, but he's lived for hundreds of years. He has a name, but the people of our world know him better as ... the Last Centurion." Oh, hell yah! and evoking the memory of him having put all other boyfriends to shame for nearly two millennia. His strut into the Cybermen's CIC without the slightest fear, even more calmly badass than Sgt Benton. The destruction of their fleet, and his stare-down to farking Cybermen, rolling straight into the rousing opening intro. Three awesome brand new characters, one of whom provided the opportunity to examine and validate Rory's duality as an absolutely dedicated warrior and a nurse. The whole bit about the Doctor's effects on the cultures of the universe. The cameos, Amy's realisation of what Lorna embroidered and what it meant, and bringing back around the whole forest thing from when we and Ten first met River. Moffat even managed to include a totally juvenile Stevie Wonder is blind joke, and make it work.
 
2012-08-27 01:22:25 AM  

Chemical Stump Remover: sage37: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Matt Smith...he has a great take on the Doctor, but I am hard pressed to think of any "classic" episodes during his run.

'Vincent and the Doctor' and 'The Doctor's Wife' come to mind

The God Complex was fantastic. Easily my favorite of Smith's run so far.


I enjoyed it but I have to say that I didn't care for how they glossed over Rory's "lack of faith" to be exploited. So what, he just drifts through life believing in nothing? I can believe that he doesn't have faith in the doctor because he's always seen the dangers of the doctor but what about his faith in Amy, or even in himself. I mean something must have kept going for the 2000 years that he served as the Centurion. Would have liked to see somethign there because I think it definately fell a little flat there. Otherwise I really liked the episode.

I would Amy's Choice to the list of great Nu-Who. Just for the Dream Lord alone.
 
2012-08-27 01:24:14 AM  
Interesting that I mentioned those three characters. I just went looking for pics of Madame Vastra & Jenny, only to discover that they and Strax have a two-parter coming up, beginning with the Christmas episode when the Doctor gets his new companion. Jenna-Louise Coleman, the next companion actress, is currently best known for portraying a lesbian -- and her first two episodes also feature the return of the series' first lesbian couple (not counting Amy's blatant flirtation with her two-minute older/younger self in "Time"). Coincidence? Does Clara "tip the scales" too?
 
2012-08-27 01:43:31 AM  

HopScotchNSoda: Interesting that I mentioned those three characters. I just went looking for pics of Madame Vastra & Jenny, only to discover that they and Strax have a two-parter coming up, beginning with the Christmas episode when the Doctor gets his new companion. Jenna-Louise Coleman, the next companion actress, is currently best known for portraying a lesbian -- and her first two episodes also feature the return of the series' first lesbian couple (not counting Amy's blatant flirtation with her two-minute older/younger self in "Time"). Coincidence? Does Clara "tip the scales" too?


I was just hoping that since Madame Vastra and Jenny are in the episode where Clara's introduced that it means Clara is from the 19th century. I'd rather like it if they went with a companion from a different time period, and the Victorian era would be nifty.
 
2012-08-27 01:51:32 AM  

TheManWho: Great Janitor: My first taste of Red Dwarf was during a pledge drive. That half hour episode was 2 hours long due to pledge driving/begging for money, and talking over the ending credits. But that was a short pledge drive, only lasted 51 weeks.

The song at the end of Red Dwarf was

It's a garbage pod. great, and anyone talk It's a smegging garbage pod! ing over it should be shot. 

/exception
 
2012-08-27 01:55:08 AM  

t3knomanser: FirstNationalBastard: instead of the NuWho "I WANT SPINY TIMELORD COCK FILLING MY HOLES!"

At least Amy got over it quickly, and honestly, it came off as more pre-wedding jitters than any honest interest. Amy brings in Rory, and Rory is one of my favorite things about NuWho. He's got a bit of the old Douglas Adams era in him- he'd be a great Arthur Dent (and if I were god of all creation, he'd play Bob Howard in a Laundry Files series, with Bill Nighy as Angleton).


I like the way you think, sir!


cretinbob: Yes, it was the Amy Pond show intro that people hated, not Pond herself.


For some reason that seems to be spreading. The second season of Grimm has a similar stupid (and frankly inaccurate) opening sequence.

And I find this thread sorely lacking in pictures of the new companion.

blog.zap2it.com

www.themorningstarr.co.uk
 
2012-08-27 01:58:31 AM  

fusillade762:

And I find this thread sorely lacking in pictures of the new companion.

blog.zap2it.com



If she's going to wear an ugly sweater, there's only one that should be allowed

static.zooomr.com
 
2012-08-27 02:29:58 AM  

ReluctantPaladin: I enjoyed it but I have to say that I didn't care for how they glossed over Rory's "lack of faith" to be exploited. So what, he just drifts through life believing in nothing? I can believe that he doesn't have faith in the doctor because he's always seen the dangers of the doctor but what about his faith in Amy, or even in himself. I mean something must have kept going for the 2000 years that he served as the Centurion. Would have liked to see somethign there because I think it definately fell a little flat there. Otherwise I really liked the episode.


I'm thinking that the brevity and the superficial level of examination of Rory's lack of faith (assuming that's even the correct analysis) was just a foreshadow or a tease for something we're going to get in the next few weeks. I have no knowledge one way or the other; I'm just looking at the practice in the revived era to make passing mention of things, and only later examine these pre-established things. Davies would do that within a series or a little longer (e,g.. "Bad Wolf", Torchwood, Mr. Saxon, the long-term implications of the TARDIS' perception filter, Wilfred, Donna, the stars going out, the Adipose home world's disappearance). RTD does it too, but also on a much longer scale (e.g., River, the forests, Prof. Candy & Luna U, Amy unknowingly predicting the Doctor's use of the Teselecta as a Doctor suit, Amy's question about the TARDIS' roof light.)

Or maybe those two thousand years as an Auton drove Rory to adopt a fatalistic nihilistic outlook, wearing blinders to all but ensuring Amy's safety. He didn't have to eat, drink, poop, sleep, be warm, be dry, socialise, date, screw, impress others. Just guard Amy. Even assuming his 20-odd years of memories of being a living human are dominant in his mind, he's still got nearly a hundred times as many years of memory as an Auton (much more still in terms of hours, because Auton Rory was awake all day and all night. Who knows, the Torchwood Institute might have gotten word of a man who never ages and who is continually seen near the Roman Pandorica box, and Jack gave Rory his speech about the absence of an afterlife.
 
2012-08-27 02:33:13 AM  

HopScotchNSoda: Who knows, the Torchwood Institute might have gotten word of a man who never ages and who is continually seen near the Roman Pandorica box, and Jack gave Rory his speech about the absence of an afterlife.


...or saw just how anatomically correct an Auton is.
 
2012-08-27 02:44:46 AM  

rynthetyn: HopScotchNSoda: Interesting that I mentioned those three characters. I just went looking for pics of Madame Vastra & Jenny, only to discover that they and Strax have a two-parter coming up, beginning with the Christmas episode when the Doctor gets his new companion. Jenna-Louise Coleman, the next companion actress, is currently best known for portraying a lesbian -- and her first two episodes also feature the return of the series' first lesbian couple (not counting Amy's blatant flirtation with her two-minute older/younger self in "Time"). Coincidence? Does Clara "tip the scales" too?

I was just hoping that since Madame Vastra and Jenny are in the episode where Clara's introduced that it means Clara is from the 19th century. I'd rather like it if they went with a companion from a different time period, and the Victorian era would be nifty.



The era also adds another layer or aspect to what appeared to be the Doctor's plan going forward after "The Wedding of River Song"; to keep a low profile, let the universe think that he was killed in April 2011 by River Song, and so on.

The Doctor has to particularly watch his ass and keep his head down in in Vastra's/Jenny's time in Britain. He's a wanted man. When the TARDIS showed up in Madame Vastra's drawing room in "AGMGTW", it had been only nine years since the Queen banished Sir Doctor of TARDIS and established the Torchwood Institute protect the Empire from him. Fortunately for the Doctor, Torchwood probably only know Ten's appearance, but we don't know that. They may well have discovered drawings, paintings, or photographs of Eleven and his strange blue box among Roman artifacts, or from some other trip that we have not yet seen him take to the past.
 
2012-08-27 03:00:53 AM  
24 years ago, during the series' silver anniversary, the show had its first meta reference. Transported back to the I. M. Foreman junkyard and the Cole Hill School on 22 November 1963, Ace crashes out at a boarding house. The next evening, Saturday 23 November, she switches off the television, just as the BBC announcer states that next up is a new science fiction series, "Do.... [click]

Perhaps next year, the Doctor and company could find themselves in St. Pancras, London, on 8 January 1908, just as a young unmarried woman, Lucy Hartnell, pops out a baby boy, Billy. I'm not sold on that; I'm brainstorming/spitballing.
 
2012-08-27 03:21:34 AM  

teto85: PBS has the opposite problem


Um no. When they screened Sherlock they cut a lot of stuff to make it fit the Masterpiece timeslot, including some of the funniest and most character-developing parts (like the reveal that Sherlock stole the ashtray from Buckingham Palace to amuse John). Kudos to them for getting the actual Sherlock team to make the cuts instead of randomly taking a razor to it, I suppose.

But I don't know how they thought they would get away with it. Everyone (including PBS!) knew that the fans had already watched 'illegal' versions and that it would be immediately obvious that cuts had been made. A lot of people were watching it on PBS then to give it ratings out of loyalty to the show. A lot of fans decided they won't do that next time because why watch a munted version? So PBS screwed themselves, there.

Idiots.
 
2012-08-27 03:26:43 AM  

if_i_really_have_to: teto85: PBS has the opposite problem

Um no. When they screened Sherlock they cut a lot of stuff to make it fit the Masterpiece timeslot, including some of the funniest and most character-developing parts (like the reveal that Sherlock stole the ashtray from Buckingham Palace to amuse John). Kudos to them for getting the actual Sherlock team to make the cuts instead of randomly taking a razor to it, I suppose.

But I don't know how they thought they would get away with it. Everyone (including PBS!) knew that the fans had already watched 'illegal' versions and that it would be immediately obvious that cuts had been made. A lot of people were watching it on PBS then to give it ratings out of loyalty to the show. A lot of fans decided they won't do that next time because why watch a munted version? So PBS screwed themselves, there.

Idiots.


They did the same thing with Downton Abbey, though it's not quite as noticeable because Downton's plots aren't so tightly written as Sherlock's are.
 
2012-08-27 03:28:10 AM  
PBS did the same thing with Life on Mars and Ashes to Ashes. I don't know whether those cuts were made by PBS / my PBS station, or if the only version available from the syndicate (for a given language, anyway) is the one with commercial cuts.
 
2012-08-27 03:31:58 AM  

HopScotchNSoda: I'm thinking that the brevity and the superficial level of examination of Rory's lack of faith (assuming that's even the correct analysis) was just a foreshadow or a tease for something we're going to get in the next few weeks. I have no knowledge one way or the other; I'm just looking at the practice in the revived era to make passing mention of things, and only later examine these pre-established things. Davies would do that within a series or a little longer (e,g.. "Bad Wolf", Torchwood, Mr. Saxon, the long-term implications of the TARDIS' perception filter, Wilfred, Donna, the stars going out, the Adipose home world's disappearance). RTD Moffat does it too, but also on a much longer scale (e.g., River, the forests, Prof. Candy & Luna U, Amy unknowingly predicting the Doctor's use of the Teselecta as a Doctor suit, Amy's question about the TARDIS' roof light.)


FIFM Too many edits & re-wordings lead to artifacts like that. Sorry.
 
2012-08-27 03:59:24 AM  
Hopefully Moffat's location scout can find some other big fancy halls in or near the Cardiff studios so that they can lay off of the Temple of Peace and Health for a while. An average of one episode per season has been shot there. That distinctive parquet floor is getting pretty recogniseable, and it's interfering with suspension of disbelief.

On the other hand, I rather liked the umpteenth return to Roald Dahl Plass in "The Girl Who Waited." Not only had we not seen that particular spot (the foyer of the Wales Millennium Centre -- when Amy arrives at the Kindness Center), but that spot was perfect. I don't know if director Nick Hurran was intending from the start to evoke the entrance to the euthanasia centre in Soylent Green (filmed in the foyer of the Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena), but he certainly ended up doing so, which meshed perfectly with the beautiful landscapes for her enjoyment (like the filmed vistas of natural beauty projected on the screens when Edward G. Robinson's character is euthenised), the anticipated permanency of her stay.
 
2012-08-27 04:33:24 AM  

rynthetyn: loonatic112358: rynthetyn: You're kidding, right? Captain Jack spent half the time blatantly hitting on the Doctor. everything remotely human

don't forget, when he comes from a poodle could be a viable partner

I still can't believe that One Million Moms never complained about Captain John making eyes at the poodle, it's not like the episode hasn't aired dozens of times in the US.


Right, as if those inbred Jeezer dipshiats have even heard of Doctor Who, let alone possess the minimum number of functioning neurons to understand it.
 
2012-08-27 04:41:33 AM  

BorgiaGinz: rynthetyn: loonatic112358: rynthetyn: You're kidding, right? Captain Jack spent half the time blatantly hitting on the Doctor. everything remotely human

don't forget, when he comes from a poodle could be a viable partner

I still can't believe that One Million Moms never complained about Captain John making eyes at the poodle, it's not like the episode hasn't aired dozens of times in the US.

Right, as if those inbred Jeezer dipshiats have even heard of Doctor Who, let alone possess the minimum number of functioning neurons to understand it.


When have they ever watched any of the other shows they complain about? Normally, the fact that the creator of a show like Queer as Folk is involved would be enough for them to be preemptively outraged.
 
2012-08-27 04:42:12 AM  

loonatic112358: rynthetyn: You're kidding, right? Captain Jack spent half the time blatantly hitting on the Doctor. everything remotely human

don't forget, when he comes from a poodle could be a viable partner



But not Donna Noble. The one white guy she goes after and he wanted nothing to do with her. She practically chased him around the TARDIS control console in "Journey's End".
 
2012-08-27 07:01:38 AM  

HopScotchNSoda: Interesting that I mentioned those three characters. I just went looking for pics of Madame Vastra & Jenny, only to discover that they and Strax have a two-parter coming up, beginning with the Christmas episode when the Doctor gets his new companion. Jenna-Louise Coleman, the next companion actress, is currently best known for portraying a lesbian -- and her first two episodes also feature the return of the series' first lesbian couple (not counting Amy's blatant flirtation with her two-minute older/younger self in "Time"). Coincidence? Does Clara "tip the scales" too?


Woah, I had forgotten and just remembered that Rachel Stirling is also in the Christmas episode. I don't know how I forgot, as I pointed this out in another thread weeks ago (before learning of the return of Vastra & Jenny): The reason we sometimes refer to a hypothetical spin-off of those two as "Tipping the Scales" is that Rachel Stirling and Keeley Hawes (of Spooks [a/k/a MI5] and Ashes to Ashes starred in a BBC TV movie about a pair of Victorian lesbians called Tipping the Velvet (an expression meaning to perform cunnilingus on a woman's 'velvet').

I tend to guess that all of this is not a coincidence.

/ I could make some crass remark about chewing on the Doctor's blue box (which conveniently took on the form of a woman last year). 

/ / Maybe I will.
 
2012-08-27 07:11:23 AM  

FitzShivering: t3knomanser: I'd also add that I don't think the Tennant era has many classic episodes either- "Blink", "The Girl in the Fireplace" and "Midnight" come to mind. Eccleston gets "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances" and "Dalek". Actually, on sheer percentages, that puts Eccleston ahead for NuWho.

Dalek is one of my all time favorites. I thought it was one of the few that made the Doctor's searing hatred for the Dalek truly memorable, and explained why he'd be willing to do what he did and earn the reputation he had. The whole, "Daleks are incredibly evil but I'll still be goofy about it" bit from other Doctors just never got it across for me. Eccleston was, IMO, the first to portray the Doctor's willingness to burn the entire universe to destroy them.


Not seen Sylvester McCoy's interactions with the Daleks, then? He was absolutely nasty with them.

That said, I liked "Vincent and the Doctor," but it was written in such a way to be a bit of a hollow tear-jerker. It was good, but a bit maudlin. I will say "The God Complex" was also good, but just didn't really strike me as brilliant (maybe it was the Weeping Angels appearance...again). I liked "The Doctor's Wife," too, but most people only like it because it spelled out to them what most Doctor Who fans had already figured out -- the TARDIS was always in control.

For Tennant, there are plenty of memorable episodes. The Family of Blood story arc, The Satan Pit, Blink, Journey's End, The Girl in the Fireplace (though a bit hammy at parts), and so on. And, Tennant was able to "rescue" scripts and make them at least watchable on his own.

Eccelston had some great ones, too. I just don't see much from the Smith run that will be a top-rated episode in the future...Smith reminds me a lot of McCoy in some ways: a wonderful take on the Doctor, but saddled with mediocre scripts, bad plotlines, and questionable companions (except for Rory).
 
2012-08-27 07:19:12 AM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Not seen Sylvester McCoy's interactions with the Daleks, then? He was absolutely nasty with them.


He

was nasty? He tended to let Ace handle that. Ace kicked Dalek (and Cyberman) ass. The girl beat the hell out of a Dalek with a 'supercharged' baseball bat next to Susan's desk in Barbara's classroom -- took out a Dalek by clubbing it. She still had several bottles of her home-brewed Nitro-9 with which to ruin other Daleks' day.

By the way, the first of this week's five Pond Life mini-episodes is up, and the BBC i-Player doesn't appear to be region-specific. I didn't have to launch ExpatShield in order to watch it.
 
2012-08-27 08:15:03 AM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: I have doubts about the quality of this season. The previous season had its moments, but it sucked in places...Moffat is a much better writer than producer. He has overexposed the Angels, did a horrible redesign of the Daleks (which he is redoung one season later), and has a boner for Amy Pond that seems bigger than the one Davies had for Rose. And there are rumors of the new companion being all love interesty. I feel sorry for Matt Smith...he has a great take on the Doctor, but I am hard pressed to think of any "classic" episodes during his run.


The one with the Dreamlord is a goddamn gem.
 
2012-08-27 08:34:10 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: BBC America has to make money, unlike its socialist precursor.


This. The BBC in the UK is funded by the licence fee, hence no adverts, but the BBC is not allowed to use licence fee money to fund services overseas (except the world service) so BBCA has to have adverts.
 
2012-08-27 08:40:38 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: TheManofPA: mat catastrophe: Sheesh. Why can't America have nice things?

We covered that in the:
1) Honey Boo Boo ratings thread
2) The Olympics thread where NBC said they needed the announcers for the opening ceremonies because Americans aren't smart enough to handle it on our own

BBCA thinks they are doing us a favor with the Amy Pond Adventures opening.....



I would guess BBCA also thinks that they're doing viewers a favor by running only Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek: The Next Generation, and X-Files instead of actual British programming, but all they've really done is piss off people who might actually watch their sad, Spike TV in the mid-'00s rip off network.


The BBC are a bit pushed for content. BBCA has to be self funded so money is tight. And lots of BBC shows are not made by the BBC (Merlin, Spooks, QI, HIGNFY, Sherlock, New Tricks, Hustle, Life On Mars/Ashes To Ashes etc) so they do not own the rights to show them in the US. The production company is free to sell to the highest bidder.
Even stuff made in house by the BBC, like Doctor Who, has to be sold at "fair market" price. If the BBC sold it to BBCA for peanuts it would be illegally subsidising a foreign channel with UK taxpayer money.
 
2012-08-27 08:45:08 AM  

Flint Ironstag: And lots of BBC shows are not made by the BBC (Merlin, Spooks, QI, HIGNFY, Sherlock, New Tricks, Hustle, Life On Mars/Ashes To Ashes etc) so they do not own the rights to show them in the US. The production company is free to sell to the highest bidder.


BTW, the reason for this is that the BBC is required by law to have at least 25%, and up to 50%, of its shows made by independent production companies. So we get outrage at the "fact" that Jonathan Ross is "paid" £6million a year to present his chat show, when in fact that was the fee to produce the show and had to pay for all the crew, guests, the band etc and £1.5million a year he had to pay back to the BBC to hire the studio at TV Centre to record the show.
 
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