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(Japan Times)   Buffeted by fierce foreign competition and that Interweb thing, Sony to stop manufacturing optical disc drives for PCs. Your DVD player takes one more small step into 8-Track Hall of Fame   (japantimes.co.jp) divider line 52
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2012-08-26 05:03:49 PM  
So they're just going to license Blu-Ray to other manufacturers, I take it?
 
2012-08-26 06:28:56 PM  
How much longer until flash drives are retro?
 
2012-08-26 06:29:10 PM  
I recently pulled the DVD drive from my PC after I realized I hadn't used it for almost a year. 99% of its usage was for games, but now I have Steam for that.
 
2012-08-26 06:42:50 PM  
you can pry my simpson, and venture bros dvd collection from my cold dead hands
 
2012-08-26 06:50:28 PM  
Every Sony optical drive I have installed (for myself or users) over the last 10 years has been a re-badged Lite-On anyway.
 
2012-08-26 07:00:24 PM  
Well, perhaps the music CD hall of fame.

Problem: streaming selection on Netflix, Amazon, Hulu still nothing close to what's available on DVD, especially if you include out-of-print titles. The physical device still wins, but getting closer to oblivion. Maybe 2020.

/I don't watch movies on my computer, so will not notice the loss in question
 
2012-08-26 07:25:51 PM  

invictus2: you can pry my simpson, and venture bros dvd collection from my cold dead hands


The sad part is that with Fox's piss poor release schedule, DVD will be dead before they ever catch the Simpsons up to the current season.
 
2012-08-26 07:29:40 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: The sad part is that with Fox's piss poor release schedule, DVD will be dead before they ever catch the Simpsons up to the current season.


Hey, Julie Kavner is a very busy woman, what with all the other work she gets, and it's not easy to schedule time to bring her in for her insightful DVD commentary tracks.
 
2012-08-26 07:33:21 PM  
I thought the thumb drives had mortally wounded the computer optical drive and we were just watching them slowly die.

Between thumb drives, Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, the Cloud, Pandora and Steam why do we need optical drives? I stopped burning cds when I got a car stereo with a jack to plug my MP3 player into and a USB port for a thumb drive.
 
2012-08-26 07:52:48 PM  
well, makes sense autodesk started delivering there large suites on flash drive if you chose to not download them, which is good because I didn't want to go through 64 gbs of dvds
 
2012-08-26 08:04:37 PM  

The Briny Derp: How much longer until flash drives are retro?


Two years ago?
 
2012-08-26 08:06:24 PM  
Looks down see no logo on DVD drive. Checks drive boot up info. Yup it's a Sony. Oh well. Hope it won't die within a year
like the last 2 other brands* I had before the Sony.

* LG, Lite-on
 
2012-08-26 08:19:45 PM  
Apple did it first.
 
2012-08-26 08:23:41 PM  
I think I've maybe used my DVD twice on my computer and I've had it for almost a year now. I'm very much in favor of getting rid of the drive if it drops the price of a computer a little bit.
 
2012-08-26 08:24:39 PM  
i555.photobucket.com

This CD player gets daily use in the Kraftwerk Orange household. Behold the glory of a Philips CDM1!

The optical drive on my PC pretty much gets used for two things: ripping CDs, and burning CDs.
 
2012-08-26 08:26:17 PM  

insertsnarkyusername: I think I've maybe used my DVD twice on my computer and I've had it for almost a year now. I'm very much in favor of getting rid of the drive if it drops the price of a computer a little bit.


If you import region 2 DVDs, a DVD drive is a good way to be able to play them if you don't have a DVD player you can hack to be region free.
 
2012-08-26 08:33:25 PM  
s.ecrater.com

/Is there an 8-track Hall of Shame?
 
2012-08-26 08:34:51 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: insertsnarkyusername: I think I've maybe used my DVD twice on my computer and I've had it for almost a year now. I'm very much in favor of getting rid of the drive if it drops the price of a computer a little bit.

If you import region 2 DVDs, a DVD drive is a good way to be able to play them if you don't have a DVD player you can hack to be region free.


Valid point.
 
2012-08-26 09:16:18 PM  
I bought a dual layer DVD burner 6 months ago from Newegg and I still have not bothered to install it. Its a SATA drive too, just have not needed it. I think I ll just wait until I upgrade my whole system in the next couple of months then I ll finally get to use it.
 
2012-08-26 09:34:28 PM  
I installed starcraft and red alert on my computer last week. First time I had used the drive in months. And I work in IT...
 
2012-08-26 09:42:58 PM  
Just purchased a BD player, and am thinking about another. Netflix DVD FTW, with a side order of Redbox.
 
2012-08-26 09:43:57 PM  
Did someone already bring up sony's ploy to include rootkits onboard their optical discs yet? If not, let me be the first.

/fark sony, what a terribly run company these days
 
2012-08-26 09:48:26 PM  
I wanted a multi-disc bluray player.

They don't make anything multi-disc anymore. And by "they" I mean the single factory that makes all the players under different labels.
 
2012-08-26 09:54:32 PM  
www.curbsideclassic.com


Some technology gets outdated. Some doesn't.
 
2012-08-26 10:05:37 PM  
Good... I loved NEC's optical drives, then Sony bought that line, merged it into Optiarc, and the new drives sucked.
 
2012-08-26 10:38:07 PM  
I refuse to buy a laptop without a blu ray drive.
 
2012-08-26 10:45:24 PM  

bulldg4life: I installed starcraft and red alert on my computer last week. First time I had used the drive in months. And I work in IT...


Red Alert 1 or 2?
 
2012-08-26 10:56:55 PM  

Great Janitor: I thought the thumb drives had mortally wounded the computer optical drive and we were just watching them slowly die.

Between thumb drives, Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, the Cloud, Pandora and Steam why do we need optical drives? I stopped burning cds when I got a car stereo with a jack to plug my MP3 player into and a USB port for a thumb drive.


I went to engineering school because I wanted to design a car stereo with a USB jack. Then I found out the Chinese were already on it and quit.
/gave up and went into live production. Much happier.
 
2012-08-26 11:00:14 PM  

Kraftwerk Orange: This CD player gets daily use in the Kraftwerk Orange household. Behold the glory of a Philips CDM1!

The optical drive on my PC pretty much gets used for two things: ripping CDs, and burning CDs.


Are you ripping them to wave files in your computer? If not, then you might as well integrate a half decent computer into your central entertainment system.
 
2012-08-26 11:03:59 PM  

Allen262: bulldg4life: I installed starcraft and red alert on my computer last week. First time I had used the drive in months. And I work in IT...

Red Alert 1 or 2?


RA1

Gotta use dosbox, re-apply a patch everytime, and stop explorer.exe while I'm playing....but damn it is fun!
 
2012-08-26 11:12:59 PM  
I only use a physical CD drive on a new build to install the OS, older software (I still use, although infrequently, old games and a greeting card program that was on my 1998 Gateway), and to burn pirated movies/TV shows (also not very frequently). The drives seem to be made like crap nowadays anyway. Built a PC in February and the Samsung drive always freezes up/continuously spins for no reason and forces me to jam a paper clip in it to stop it.
 
2012-08-26 11:14:28 PM  
Good, the Optiarc line was crap. I have not seen so many failures on a product line as with those crappy DVD burners.
 
2012-08-26 11:22:10 PM  
i still use my dvd drive often largely because A) despite stuff like dropbox a lot of business/local gov't/non-profits/churches/grandparents/etc. still like using physical copies, B) legacy software like system shock 2 that simply isn't available anywhere else, and C) what else are you going to use that drive slot for in your case?
 
2012-08-27 12:02:27 AM  
I can see stopping production of DVD readers and burners, but I am surprised that they're stopping production of BD drives as well.

BD-R discs have come down enough in price that they make a good backup medium. And now that BD-V rippers can crack most discs, it is nice to be able to yank a movie onto the NAS.
 
2012-08-27 12:19:51 AM  

bulldg4life:
RA1


Your proprietary techniques, or do you know of a writeup of this voodoo somewhere?

/jealous
//awating orders
 
2012-08-27 12:22:44 AM  

rooftop235: Kraftwerk Orange: This CD player gets daily use in the Kraftwerk Orange household. Behold the glory of a Philips CDM1!

The optical drive on my PC pretty much gets used for two things: ripping CDs, and burning CDs.

Are you ripping them to wave files in your computer? If not, then you might as well integrate a half decent computer into your central entertainment system.


Yep, everything goes into WAV lossless, and the discs all go into the media room library. Don't worry about my listening set up, it's pretty awesome without getting into too many OT details.

Just thought I'd post a pic of pretty much the most bulletproof optical drive ever made.
 
2012-08-27 01:10:06 AM  
I still have a box of CD-R disks. Why can't technology wait until I use up my the supplies from the previous level?
 
2012-08-27 01:20:43 AM  
Kraftwerk Orange : The optical drive on my PC pretty much gets used for two things: ripping CDs, and burning CDs.

Ripping DVDs and streaming them to the tivo.

// one less device taking up a shelf in my media cabinet.

// never met a standalone DVD player that I liked.
 
2012-08-27 06:08:26 AM  

Great Janitor: I thought the thumb drives had mortally wounded the computer optical drive and we were just watching them slowly die.

Between thumb drives, Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, the Cloud, Pandora and Steam why do we need optical drives? I stopped burning cds when I got a car stereo with a jack to plug my MP3 player into and a USB port for a thumb drive.


I still have old, old games that I play from time to time and don't want to buy them again. I finally lost my old 3.5" SimFarm disks a few years back. That was a sad day.
 
2012-08-27 07:53:12 AM  
I'm still ripping and burning movies for timeshifting. The 2nd DVD drive just died on my desktop. I imagine I'll be using the laptop for that purpose from now on.
 
2012-08-27 08:45:28 AM  

operatorJzigworthy: Your proprietary techniques, or do you know of a writeup of this voodoo somewhere?


Youtube Tutorial

When the new game came out in 2009, they released the ISOs for the original game (luckily, I still had my CDs from oh so long ago). If you don't have and need, just search for the RA1 ISOs and make sure to get Counterstrike/Aftermath

Mount the ISO. Then, within dosbox, you can run some command line instructions that will install the program (and apply the appropriate .exe patch). Once all that is done, you're ready to go.

The graphics will look screwy though (it has something to do with explorer.exe always trying to be "on top" of the running program...it happened when I played the original starcraft too). Just end explorer.exe while you are playing and everything is fine.
 
2012-08-27 09:10:43 AM  

bulldg4life: operatorJzigworthy: Your proprietary techniques, or do you know of a writeup of this voodoo somewhere?

Youtube Tutorial
Then, within dosbox ... you are playing and everything is fine.


Wow. Thanks. And of course, there goes my evening(s).
 
2012-08-27 09:27:41 AM  
It's not as if there's a shortage of companies making optical drives for PCs, or a shortage of media.

The problem is Sony's losing a lot of money. So they're trying to get out of commodity parts businesses to keep the company afloat.
 
2012-08-27 10:15:44 AM  

Valarius: Some technology gets outdated. Some doesn't.


I assume you're holding that Mustang up as a perfect example of a technology that gets outdated? Because I don't think anything quite screams outdated like a car that's significantly slower than many modern cars with less than half the displacement (a dinky little Mazda3 Mazdaspeed will absolutely crush it in both a straight line and on a track) while also managing to be louder, less comfortable, far less efficient, more polluting, and extremely less safe.

Nostalgia doesn't make them good cars technologically. Two different things.
 
2012-08-27 10:23:12 AM  
the only thing i've used my optical drive for in the last year or two was ripping CD's, and installing games that came on disk.

It's hard to make a profit on optical drives, seeing as you have ultra cheap ones from folks like lite-on dominating the market. Hell, I got my last one as a newegg freebie.
 
2012-08-27 11:36:27 AM  
I haven't bought a DVD drive made by Sony in ages. LG is the biggest name in the game. This doesn't mean the medium is dead just that they decided they weren't making any money in it.
 
2012-08-27 02:19:57 PM  
Optical drives still have a use in the tech world. As a Service Manager at a tech shop, I'm burning ISOs to disk for Linux builds, bootable diagnostic software, windows CDs... et. al

There are older computers that come into the shop or Point of Sales computers at our retail store clients which don't have the ability to boot from USB devices. At those times, it's nice to have a DVD/CD collection of software to use. If the computer won't boot to the OS, how can you 'mount an ISO'? Optical Drives still have their uses.
 
2012-08-27 04:06:57 PM  

Bschott007: If the computer won't boot to the OS, how can you 'mount an ISO'?


Don't -- it's not 1996 anymore. If your general-purpose computer systems don't support booting from the network and/or USB then they're too old to part of any reasonable support plan.
 
2012-08-27 04:39:09 PM  

profplump: Bschott007: If the computer won't boot to the OS, how can you 'mount an ISO'?

Don't -- it's not 1996 anymore. If your general-purpose computer systems don't support booting from the network and/or USB then they're too old to part of any reasonable support plan.


Well said Apple or Geeksquad sales manager, well said.
 
2012-08-27 05:18:35 PM  
bulldg4life: The graphics will look screwy though (it has something to do with explorer.exe always trying to be "on top" of the running program.

I wonder if throwing shell=someprogram.exe in autoexec.bat (or some modern equivalent) still works.
 
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